Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

[JEEP]

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean by this comment. Hope for what?

OK - so this sentiment is unknown in Croatia.

"Hope springs eternal" is an idiom that means people will always remain optimistic and believe in a better future, even when faced with adversity. The phrase is a shortened version of the line "Hope springs eternal in the human breast" from the 1732 poem An Essay on Man by Alexander Pope. The saying is often used to describe the human tendency to continue hoping for success, no matter how unlikely it may seem.

And, I'm with you in that the ultimate goal is the Gaza Riveria and not liking at all Trump's son-in-law's role in it. However, at least for now -

Third time's a charm? 10 October 2025: Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians seen returning to northern Gaza, again, following the announcement of another Israel-Hamas 'peace deal'.

- for as long as it does last. Likely a temporary reprieve. Nonetheless, Netanyahu and Israel is losing big time in the court of public opinion which may have been a factor to back off for now. Kirk's assassination didn't help their optics either as the court of public opinion has rendered a guilty verdict. When and how will the empire Zionists strike back . . . and we all know they will. (The Samson option always the wild card.)

 

[forest_light]

I don't either, but it's having that effect nonetheless. There were four entries on whatreallyhappened.com yesterday featuring clips from her last vid that very prominently featured the positively shot from the front/shooter in the crowd:

I was going to say someone needs to help her out with that, but Laura was onto it, via X

 

[Revolucionar]

OK - so this sentiment is unknown in Croatia.


And, I'm with you in that the ultimate goal is the Gaza Riveria and not liking at all Trump's son-in-laws role in it. However, at least for now -

Third time's a charm? 10 October 2025: Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians seen returning to northern Gaza, again, following the announcement of another Israel-Hamas 'peace deal'.

- for as long as it does last. Likely a temporary reprieve. Nonetheless, Netanyahu and Israel is losing big time in the court of public opinion which may have been a factor to back off for now. Kirk's assassination didn't help their optics either as the court of public opinion has rendered a guilty verdict. When and how will the empire Zionists strike back . . . and we all know they will. (The Samson option always the wild card.)

The Croatian saying goes: Nada umire zadnja, or Hope dies last, but I'm confused as to how we got to talking about hope and what's happening in Gaza from a simple question about basic physics.

 

[Fluffy]

One can certainly hope that there´s sustained peace regarding Gaza but doesn´t seem likely , not if the 4th d STS plans are to wipe out "Palestinians" , plus however long the weapons are silent the greater the chance that the horror that´s been unleashed on Gaza will be even more exposed , not that it´s hasn´t but eh , likely for it to resume shortly i think.

Crease fire? As if (bit of cross posting)

 

[RedFox]

That doesn't explain it, IMO. F=m•a

Did you familiarise yourself with the forces and physics involved in shaped charges?
Did you at least watch all the videos I shared? Including the home made device?

You’ll notice the home made device is barely contained in a cardboard tube that it obliterates. Yet the shaped charge itself (very light copper foil) punches a hole into the lock.

We’re dealing with the physics of very very very light projectiles here. Maybe 1/4 or 1/2 a gram.

Now replace that tube of the home made device with a metal tube strong enough to contain/direct a tiny high powered explosive device.

Remove the shaped charge and you get a super tiny super sonic shockwave.
Add the shaped charge of a few pieces of copper foil, and you get a lethal device.
All the device needs is enough resistance (smaller exit) behind the explosive to balance the 1/4 gram (or much less) of copper foil it’s expelling.

It’s not like firing a bullet.

 

[Ricardo]

Also Ck´s upper t-shirt around upper chest and back simultaneously rapidly expands and goes back , which does point to a fast gas movement being discharged around the area potentially indicating of a way to direct any reaction on the explosive device being very quickly ie microseconds directed around rather than backwards by shaped charge explosion (?) i think.

 

[JEEP]

I'm confused as to how we got to talking about hope and what's happening in Gaza from a simple question about basic physics.

Let's review:

If someone can provide an explanation for why the mic moved towards Charlie's neck instead of away from it, I'll entertain the possibility.

Mossad's at the very top of the 3D/4D pyramid and in direct contact with 4D entities. Maybe a little technical input from the real masters overseeing it all.

So what's the explanation for the mic moving in the direction of the shot and not opposite?

4D physics.

BTW - I was only half kidding. As I pointed out, they practiced on dummies until they perfected the mic that would deliver the kill shot while also obscuring it was the actual weapon. And as I already stated in a previous post, "just because it's never been seen before or have the same tell-tale signature of those other exploding devices, doesn't mean the top assassination techs in the world couldn't have devised such a device and have it work precisely as it did."

Continuing:

Why use a physical projectile then? They could have just burst his jugular from the inside with their 4d weapons and we'd be none the wiser.

We're none the wiser as it is. Nobody knows nuthin' and I expect it'll stay that way.

You seem to be convinced.

Hope springs eternal. And won't it be fine when hope becomes reality. I mean, who would have thought there'd be peace in Gaza now!

As far as physics go, I suggested it's not entirely impossible that 3D/4D factors are in play that could explain your consternation regarding the fact that the mic moved in the direction of the shot and not the opposite.

@RedFox reiterated an explanation by reposting:

As such, if something similar to the second type where included in his mic pack, the mic pack would be propelled forwards rather than backwards. Whilst still firing a deadly projectile (not a bullet) through his neck.

Annd, you're not happy with that explanation either:

That doesn't explain it, IMO. F=m•a

If you had a projectile going out from one side and at a certain acceleration, you would need to have an equal force on the other end. Even if you're right that the whole mic would move with the projectile, you would need to have enormous acceleration of the air on the other end to match the m•a of both the projectile and the mic itself. It would blow up the shirt so much, I would expect it to be ripped to shreds.

Just think about the force that would be required for a small projectile to pierce a persons chests and come out clean on the other side of the neck. The same amount of force would have to be present in the opposite vector as well. Where is that force? I just don't see it.

Not being a physicist myself, I cannot improve upon @RedFox 's reply. Maybe this is a question for the Cs assuming you won't dismiss their answer as a transmission corruption.

EDIT: I see @RedFox made a reply. Sounds like a reasonable analysis to me.

 

[RedFox]

That doesn't explain it, IMO. F=m•a

Just to make the point, here are shaped charges resting on the surface of a steel plate.
There is nothing holding them still, and their tiny mass is the only possible resistance. Yet they punch through what looks like 10mm steel.

 

[Ruth]

A very odd 'shorts' video about milk (but not really). I'm not sure if the documents have been 'doctored'.

 

[JEEP]

Crease fire? As if (bit of cross posting)

A very different perspective - also on Jimmy Dore:

Charlie's assassination is clearly connected to pro-Israel Zionist Jews, so let's not pretend what happening in Israel and Gaza is off topic. They couldn't be more connected.

 

[hiker]

I was going to say someone needs to help her out with that, but Laura was onto it, via X

Good to know that Laura commented on Candace’s X post.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1976682814733955574

I don't think he was shot with a gun. Eliminate the impossible, and what is left, however improbable, must be the truth. The rifle sound was produced by a rifle that was connected to a remote firing system linked to the same controller that was used to set off the explosive that killed Charlie. The rifle sound was meant to provide a distraction so that agents could remove incriminating evidence from the area around Charlie. The explosive was in the wireless mic and it fired a projectile. It was made in such a way that it wouldn't damage the front of his chest when it exploded/fired. The projectile itself probably exploded in his neck sending part of the projectile further into his body. It was placed on him by a member of his security detail. The explosion/firing created a limited shock wave that was shaped and contained by the t-shirt itself allowing the shock to travel around his shoulders and torso which made the shirt billow and flatten in the ways observed on videos. Slow down the video that shows him from the front and you will see the wound appear in his neck in complete synch with the movement of the mic and shirt.

Dated Sept. 28 on Daily Telegraph New Zealand:

Video claims suggest explosive device in Charlie Kirk’s microphone - Daily Telegraph NZ

Controversial video alleges Charlie Kirk’s microphone pack concealed an explosive, challenging official rifle-shot narrative.

dailytelegraph.co.nz

OMG! Can you imagine the horror and panic that began tearing through the cabal that orchestrated Kirk's assassination!

QUICK! DEBUNK - DEBUNK - DEBUNK! SABOTAGE THE EVIDENCE AT ALL COSTS! WHO BEST TO CANCEL THIS ALLEGATION THAN CANDACE OWENS HERSELF! HE WAS SHOT FROM THE FRONT! HE WAS SHOT FROM THE FRONT! FLOOD X WITH THIS TRUTH BOMB!

And so, the damage control assault begins.

Charlie Kirk Assassination: It wasn’t an exploding mic, you idiots​

https://twitter.com/x/status/1974998036775313767

Did you get that? You're a complete idiot is you buy the exploding mic theory! Brought to you by American Partisan - A Vanguard Movement of Western Civilization! Well! Who could possibly argue with that - it has American right there in the name!!!

So, I guess they had to blast idiot particularly as the exploding mic theory was reiterated and linked to the actual prime suspects (Israeli) beginning @11:16 in the first vid clip. A very rational debunking then proceeds, but just because it's never been seen before or have the same tell-tale signature of those other exploding devices, doesn't mean the top assassination techs in the world couldn't have devised such a device and have it work precisely as it did. It would seem the recovered projectile piece from Charlie's neck would nullify all the bogus theories being tossed around, which is why extreme radio silence is being maintained. Same for all the TPUSA vid recordings.

HE WAS SHOT FROM THE FRONT! HE WAS SHOT FROM THE FRONT - YOU IDIOTS!

Mission accomplished.

Here's the X (below) with time stamps of the discussion:
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1974268228336583008

As true as ever - “A lie can travel around the world and back again while the truth is lacing up its boots.”— Mark Twain.

Here is that Jimmy Dore video, by the way:

I would count him among the most important public voices in the US, along with Tucker and Candace.

I noticed that Jon Bray, whose analysis was used in that episode of the Jimmy Dore show (regarding the exploding microphone), tagged Candace as well in a more recent X post of his.

Hopefully she spots the messages and takes them into account.

(Edit: the video in Bray's post is somewhat graphic.)

Charlie was Pager Attacked.
Motive
Means
Evidence
Actors
Energy doesn't lie, forget the narrative and believe the eyes God gave you.
The microphone was rigged with explosives. The unforseen magnetic clasp striking his neck exposed the operation.
@realcandaceO

 

[luc]

Also, perhaps because it is so traumatic for her to witness this footage, she may have 'blocks' on being able to truly SEE this horrific and devastating event over and over (objectively) and theorise about the details.

My thoughts as well. She probably couldn't stomach watching the "shirt video" over and over again, so she doesn't have that data point.

Even so, she's "getting warmer" and good for her that she doesn't jump on every internet theory out there. And to be fair, the "exploding mic synchronized remotely to a rifle shot as a distraction" isn't exactly Occam's razor-friendly, so it's understandable people are puzzled by all this.

Also keep in mind that we'll likely never know for sure, won't know who exactly did it, much less who's behind it, not in a smoking gun kind of way anyway. And there will certainly be no immediate justice served to the perps. What makes Candace's work so valuable is more that she models an unquenchable drive for truth, and how to go about it. People can sense that energy, and that's great. As Cesar said in the session where he "came on", you cannot change people or the world, but you can be an uplifting example. Ironically it can help to be somewhat naive at first, thinking you actually can change things and achieve "justice", thereby modelling and sending off the right energy, even if at the end of the day most people just cannot get it, and justice won't be served in the way you hoped for.

Anyway, we'll see how this will all play out with her, but one thing's for sure: go girl!

 

[Cosmos]

Here is that Jimmy Dore video, by the way:

I would count him among the most important public voices in the US, along with Tucker and Candace.

Yes, I would count Jimmy Dore also pretty high in importance right up there behind Tucker and Candace.

 

[Cosmos]

My thoughts as well. She probably couldn't stomach watching the "shirt video" over and over again, so she doesn't have that data point.

Even so, she's "getting warmer" and good for her that she doesn't jump on every internet theory out there. And to be fair, the "exploding mic synchronized remotely to a rifle shot as a distraction" isn't exactly Occam's razor-friendly, so it's understandable people are puzzled by all this.

Also keep in mind that we'll likely never know for sure, won't know who exactly did it, much less who's behind it, not in a smoking gun kind of way anyway. And there will certainly be no immediate justice served to the perps. What makes Candace's work so valuable is more that she models an unquenchable drive for truth, and how to go about it. People can sense that energy, and that's great. As Cesar said in the session where he "came on", you cannot change people or the world, but you can be an uplifting example. Ironically it can help to be somewhat naive at first, thinking you actually can change things and achieve "justice", thereby modelling and sending off the right energy, even if at the end of the day most people just cannot get it, and justice won't be served in the way you hoped for.

Anyway, we'll see how this will all play out with her, but one thing's for sure: go girl!

Indeed.

First, it is no wonder why Candace would go more for a shooting bullet theory because many of us including me would likely have favored a theory like that over an explosion if the C’s wouldn’t have provided us with such clues even though I personally would likely also have thought that an explosion would be possible too.

Secondly, the exact mechanism of how Charlie was killed is not as important as the big questions/picture of who could have done it and who had the primary motives and means to do so and for what reasons. In that regard Candace has and continues to do a stellar job that pretty directly points to the perpetrators.

Thirdly, Charlie was quite close and a real/true friend to Candace so naturally the whole thing was and is quite disturbing, shocking and traumatic to her personally. Thus, not only for that reason, as she explained early on, she avoided showing those gory video sections, as well as likely not looking at it herself anymore after she first saw it. I haven’t watched those gory parts to this day either because I see little point in doing so.

Fourthly, getting into and understanding nitty gritty physical and mechanical details and properties of how guns, bullets and explosions work and behave isn’t Candace forte and nothing she personally investigates that much. She leaves things like this more to people who are good at that and try to make sense of things in that direction/angle. Instead her forte is much more into doing pretty old school and very good/important and often more damming types of investigations into the modus operandi and motives of people and things like timelines.

 

[Brewer]

So what's the explanation for the mic moving in the direction of the shot and not opposite?

Don't know but it could be the way they vented the device, some sort of muzzle brake for example. Perhaps the body of the device was designed to anchor itself into the victim's skin upon activation shooting a projectile forward and the external 'mike' went with it. Or the device may have sent a mass in the opposite direction making it some sort of recoilless weapon. I don't know, would very much like to see the thing.