Tucker Carlson interviews & ideologies

Alejo said:
Will watch the interview, although I must admit I've never had much interest in what he's got to say.
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He's well spoken and clear in his arguments, but to the point of missing the deeper implications of things, as with Stalin, its his view on his own assassination attempt which he details in the interview. Tucker points out there could've been other forces or interests implicated, a valid point that begs reflexion, but Fuentes limited his opinion to societal nihilism engulfing young people.
 
Navigator said:
Well, it finally happened, one hour into it and its been fascinating to see where these two agree and disagree. Fuentes a fan of Stalin?

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This was the best interview I've seen with Fuentes so far. He was lucid, clear and non-combative. I cannot find (other than the Stalin quote) anything where I disagreed with him. There's a lot of sense coming from him here, which makes me wonder if he doesn't just "play up" when he's in conversation with less serious interviewers than Carlson. He's on point throughout this talk. I wondered if a more enlightened, less sensationalist and incendiary Fuentes could emerge with time; well, on this showing I'd say probably yes. The C's offered a point on his mind, and I think, if he nurtures his emotional centre along with his intellect, well then he'll do okay. He's gone up in my estimation from this talk.
 
I haven‘t watched the Fuentes interview yet (and I‘m not sure I want to actually) but how come that I‘m not surprised to hear that he is apparently quite into Stalin from what was shared here, and perhaps not in the most healthy/normal way? Can’t say that I‘m surprised about that.
 
Just so this doesn’t get split up, there is a dedicated thread on Nick here:
Alana

Post in thread 'Nick Fuentes, from troll king to... leader of a true 'America First' movement?'

Back when Nick Fuentes had the verbal sparring with Candance and Tucker, my wish and hope was that Tucker would invite him to his show, and show him (and by extension, Nick's followers) what a healthy father figure looks like. My wish sorta came true in this interview, thankfully, I woke up at 4:30 am :lol: :


Initial thoughts: I think Tucker did a great job giving Nick space to share what he stands for. Nick wasn't totally honest all the time, but he moderated himself considering where he was and who he was talking to. Tucker, I thought, showed a lot of understanding...
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The comments under the Carlson-Fuentes podcast on YT. It goes on and on like this.

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SlipNet said:
This was the best interview I've seen with Fuentes so far. He was lucid, clear and non-combative. I cannot find (other than the Stalin quote) anything where I disagreed with him. There's a lot of sense coming from him here, which makes me wonder if he doesn't just "play up" when he's in conversation with less serious interviewers than Carlson. He's on point throughout this talk. I wondered if a more enlightened, less sensationalist and incendiary Fuentes could emerge with time; well, on this showing I'd say probably yes. The C's offered a point on his mind, and I think, if he nurtures his emotional centre along with his intellect, well then he'll do okay. He's gone up in my estimation from this talk.
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Yeah interesting you say that, I drew a similar conclusion in that I found the contrast between Fuentes and Carlson to be fascinating, and attributable to an atrophied and mature emotional centre, respectively.

Edit: arguably demonstrates the importance of a long term relationship with a significant other, as Carlson impressed upon Fuentes
 
SlipNet said:
I wondered if a more enlightened, less sensationalist and incendiary Fuentes could emerge with time; well, on this showing I'd say probably yes.
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I have a few other thoughts on how this current manifestation of Fuentes might inform his future development. My first impressions of him were terrible, he really turned me off. His arrogance, hatred of the poor, and the total absence of empathy., with a feint whiff of petit-bourgeois sleaze. If he manages to consolidate what he managed to condense in this interview then I will admit that I was too harsh on him initially. He's clearly a very smart bloke. He reminds me of guys I used to know in my undergraduate years in London. He's smart, but a little too in love with how clever he thinks he is. Intellectual vanity is one of the higher petards that thinkers can get hoist upon. From here he needs to see Gaza, Venezuela and Ukraine, and get a genuine feel for what is going on. We all have our opinions, but it's only when you get a feel for how people on the ground are, that you truly can crystallise a genuine understanding of the situation. At the moment I think Fuentes is a smart if sometimes crass bloke, but he could develop well from here, but only if he wants to. To do so, he'll need to emotionally emerge from beyond his intellectual shackles, which currently contain him. With time, we will see.....:cool2:
 
Asa said:
Yeah interesting you say that, I drew a similar conclusion in that I found the contrast between Fuentes and Carlson to be fascinating, and attributable to an atrophied and mature emotional centre, respectively.

Edit: arguably demonstrates the importance of a long term relationship with a significant other, as Carlson impressed upon Fuentes
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Agreed. Fuentes is all big brains and an underdeveloped heart. And I'm not bashing him here, it's a common failing for young men today. You can only conceal that deficiency for so long. He was smart in this interview, but it begs the question; was he showing his real, genuine self? Or was he "toning himself down" for a big conservative audience which Tucker commands? We shall see with the fullness of time. Right now, I'll give him time. When I was in my mid 20's, I can freshly get a feel for how I was as a young bloke (I'm 50 now!). It's not easy being a young man in a messy, competitive world.

I'll give him time, but he'll need to develop that emotional centre if he wants real progress. I'm not deliberately judging him harshly though; I'm on the same path myself. My brain (although I'm not that smart) far exceeds my heart, but seeing the Gaza situation these last 20 years eventually kindled a wee fire within me, which saved me eventually. It may do that for many smart conservatives out there struggling with these issues today.... maybe eventually he'll come to an understanding that helping out those disadvantaged is a positive thing? The leftist thinkers here in the UK feel this easily, but the conservatives don't. As a conservative, Fuentes faces a common challenge here, and I wish him luck in his future endeavours. Just like with Charlie Kirk, a smart brain married to an awakened conscience can prove to be a potent thing which the PTB will seek to snuff out lest it inspire others.
 
SlipNet said:
Catherine Austin-Fitts should have a far higher profile in our public discourse. Those who know her love her. Say no more really.
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She is a bit too skeptical about Trump and his team, thinking that they faked the assassination attempt in Butler as a photo op. Considering that Trump is a pretty big piece of the geopolitical as well as domestic US puzzle right now, that is a pretty big thing to get wrong. But other than that, her views match almost exactly with ours. She even does not shy away from the 'breakaway civilization' discussions or the spiritual element in what is going on.
 
axj said:
She even does not shy away from the 'breakaway civilization' discussions or the spiritual element in what is going on.
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About 15 years back, she did a UFO convention show where she was on a panel with Richard Dolan, and I am reliably informed that they got on really well. I am not surprised that she's on point on this subject. She reported a few years back on the extraordinary level of profits being enjoyed by elevator production companies in recent years, and she immediately tied it to the elite and their freshly constructed "doomsday bunkers".

She also said just a few years back, and I'm paraphrasing her here, "There are far worse fates than dying. One is to be a total slave. Mind, heart, body and soul.". She's also a committed Christian, one who thinks on a clear level without the shackles of dogma encumbering her. I think she's a good example of someone who practices her faith very well. I love long form interviews with her where she just flies off on various tangents and always manages to pull it all together. She has a fierce intelligence. Having said that, she's very close to Dark Journalist Daniel Lizst and he is really on the fringe of paranoid UFO/Atlantis thinking. I love him too, but sometimes he leaves me shaking my head, thinking...."dude, you don't trust ANYBODY!". Maybe he's on to something, but I'm bloody glad that I have this forum to check in with every day.:-)
 
SlipNet said:
About 15 years back, she did a UFO convention show where she was on a panel with Richard Dolan, and I am reliably informed that they got on really well. I am not surprised that she's on point on this subject. She reported a few years back on the extraordinary level of profits being enjoyed by elevator production companies in recent years, and she immediately tied it to the elite and their freshly constructed "doomsday bunkers".

She also said just a few years back, and I'm paraphrasing her here, "There are far worse fates than dying. One is to be a total slave. Mind, heart, body and soul.". She's also a committed Christian, one who thinks on a clear level without the shackles of dogma encumbering her. I think she's a good example of someone who practices her faith very well. I love long form interviews with her where she just flies off on various tangents and always manages to pull it all together. She has a fierce intelligence. Having said that, she's very close to Dark Journalist Daniel Lizst and he is really on the fringe of paranoid UFO/Atlantis thinking. I love him too, but sometimes he leaves me shaking my head, thinking...."dude, you don't trust ANYBODY!". Maybe he's on to something, but I'm bloody glad that I have this forum to check in with every day.:-)
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lol, I remember hearing her talk about the profits of elevator firms. I run a consultancy which manages construction costs & contracts amongst other things, and a major frustration was the seemingly inexplicable power wielded by the 'lift guys' in contract negotiations. It was always, regardless of who you went to, 'our way or the highway.' Any then Fitts explained the phenomenon at a stroke - bingo!!
 
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