This is assuming that that those who would be in cahoots with the CIA in Venezuela are "the ones you bomb." CIA has been in Venezuela a long time already. I remember hearing about election rigging involving shady figures in Venezuela years ago.
Venezuela Situation: US Declares War on 'Narco-Terrorism'
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The former Director of Military Intelligence for Venezuela, Hugo Carvajal Barrios, wrote a letter to Trump which has been published online. In it, he writes about Smartmatic:
And from an August article in the Miami Herald:
And from an August article in the Miami Herald:
I don't think this statement by Carvajal is true:
It has been that way for quite some time too Approval rate of presidents Venezuela 2018| Statista
From everything I have read Smartmatic was funded by USAID, which essentially means it was created by the CIA. Does that mean the rest of what Carvajal says should be discarded? I don't think so, but obviously there needs to be further looking into. But I think the claims by Emerald Robinson and Co. about Venezuela being involved in election rigging are further bolstered by his letter. It makes sense to ask, why would the Maduro regime need to rig the national elections? Well, he is not popular for one. His approval rating is somewhere in the low 20%. See Latin American presidents' approval rates 2024| Statista
It has been that way for quite some time too Approval rate of presidents Venezuela 2018| Statista
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To what extent can one take what this guy says? He is after all an intelligence man and held in the US for drug smuggling and would stand to benefit greatly from a plea bargain where he tells a story which fits into the current US narrative. A narrative of election rigging so that the US administration's current interest in regime change in Venezuela can have the facade of caring for democracy while it is pretty much all about Venezuelan oil and other resources.
I also doubt that Venezuela has an intelligence apparatus which outdoes the Israeli/US intel services. It is more like the Venezuelan agents, being the lower level in this operation if ever there was much of a Venezuelan part to that operation. It smells a little like the claims of Russiagate where Russian social media spent just $10000 to get Trump elected in 2016. And we were meant to believe that back then.
Regarding Smartmatic, then they were unhappy with Maduro and claiming fraud in the regional election in 2017. Yet, they were the ones who supplied the voting machines for that election. Perhaps they were not happy with the election of allies of Maduro and had preferred the opposition candidates back then. As it was the opposition only won 5 out of 22 governorships.
On its own I would agree with you. But it fits with what others are saying who aren't connected to him. Is he just saying what he thinks Trump and the DOJ want to hear so he can get out of prison like Juan Orlando Hernández? Certainly possible. But I'm not inclined to dismiss his claims either, at least not yet.
You've created a bit of a straw man here. No one said Venezuela's intel agencies "outdo Israeli/US intel services."
Well if I did it was not intentional. My thinking was that the talk about Venezuelan agencies influencing the US election dismisses that the real drivers of the election interference in the US is Israel/US deep state. So if the Venezuelan agencies did try to do something, then it allowed to happen because it fitted the other string pullers. As in LIHOP (let it happen on purpose). If Venezuela did influence the US election was it in a meaningful way which made a difference and if so, why would the US deep state/Israel allow that to happen?
For further extorsions or negotiations, whatever is called when ever is needed?
I would say based on reading the claims by Robinson and Co. that the CIA/Deep State is the real driver and Venezuela was part of that operation. I don't think anyone was dismissing the involvement of the Deep State, at least that's not how I've read it. They were giving Venezuela more blame than they deserve, but not surprising since these are patriots. I think we here can read between the lines and understand that this was an operation ran by the Deep State to rig elections in the US and other countries which used assets in Venezuela, Serbia, and probably other places.
Just to add more complication and broaden the motives of the Trump admin, here is another explanation I've heard out there. The CCP has been moving into South America for years, deals made with Venezuela for their oil have been made. Seeing China as a threat, as they move in the direction of world dominance, the Trump admin has focused on shutting down their energy supply of oil. Although China has stock piled, taken control of rare minerals, built up their military, advanced around the world, they are totally dependent on buying their oil from other countries, their weak spot. If they lost this they'd be shut down quite quickly. Taking back the Panama Canal was one move to stop this flow of oil.
Could this be an alternative explanation to the C's answer? Trump has said the USA doesn't need their oil, the USA having plenty of its own and is now exporting it. This is true. I can see the Big Oil people moving into Venezuela and taking control after a regime change, a bonus for them. It's also been said that the oil revenue would go to benefit the Venezuelan people, of course wonderful if true, but....
Just wanting the oil sounds a little to pat of an answer to me. The people rigging elections world wide come down to the Global Cabal. The corrupt CIA have been a very important player here but its not the only one. If elections have been rigged in 72 countries then these countries are all players in this with their selected leaders.
Emerald Robinsons flurry of tweets laid out the narrative basically but it was done in a rather clownish and unbelievable way. For such a supposed message of great importance, why was it done in such a manner? Could this be an example of the DS trying to get ahead of the story coming out and twisting it in a manner to influence people or maybe just her own bias and lack of professionalism being shown?
The U.S. has a history of collaborating with its "enemies" when convenient, and then bombing them or trying to overthrow their governments: e.g. Khomeini/Iran (Iran-Contra), Noriega/Panama (described as being the U.S.'s ally and adversary simultaneously), Assad/Syria in the 2000s (extraordinary rendition), Al-Qaeda/Taliban at various times, etc.
U.S. politicians are prostitutes - they will take money from practically anyone if they can get away with it. And the intel agencies are totally utilitarian. If it makes operational sense to work with foreign enemies, terrorist organizations, and criminal enterprises like drug cartels, they will do so.
That makes sense, but I think it would be unlikely that the government doesn't know about the various criminal groups. The government would also have an interest in not advertising the reality of the drug-smuggling operations by publicizing the fact that many poor Venezuelans either choose or are coerced into working for drug traffickers.
Looks possible to me. The one thing arguing against it is that Byrne et al. have been trying to push this info for years now, and haven't had any success. Dominion's lawsuit against Byrne is still going through court, and Robinson is the first journalist to cover his story. Politicians, agencies, cabinet members, media, etc. - no one has wanted to touch it. Russiagate, by contrast, was catapulted onto the airwaves by all of those groups.
One other possibility is that the Venezuela angle is overblown, but the core facts are correct and no one wants to touch it because exposing the fraud of so many elections would delegitimize hundreds if not thousands of elections over the past decades. No one wants that. In his book, Pezzulo claims Byrne et al. had access to the engineers that wrote the Smartmatic source code, and they demonstrated for them how it works, replicating one of the stolen county elections from 2020. If even just that element is true, it's pretty damning.
I don't like this "Smartmatic was a Venezuelan regime techie-trick" angle for two reasons: it redirects blame for 2020 away from the CIA and onto Maduro, and it bolsters the CIA mirage that Maduro is unpopular.
Recall this session answer:
Officially - that is, officially in Venezuela also - Maduro barely won re-election with 52%.
So yeah, Smartmatic's at work in Venezuela, but it's not Maduro's techie-trick to wield.
What, or who, do you mean by "Venezuela" in the above?
So basically the CIA.
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