Session Date: December 6th 2025
Laura and Andromeda at the board
Niall, Joe, Gaby, Ark, PoB, Chu, Scottie, Princess Leia, Falkor, Bella
FOTCM Members attending via Zoom:
3DStudent, A Jay, Adobe US, Aeneas, aimarok, Alana, Alejo, Altair, Anamarija, anartist, AndrewMn, Anthony, Approaching Infinity, Aragorn, Aya, Beau, Bluefyre, Bo, Bobo08, Breton, cassandra, Cosmos, daddycat, Deliverance, dugdeep, Eboard10, Ellipse, Ennio, fabric, Finduilas495, France, Glenn, gottathink, Gwenllian, Harmony99, herondancer, hesperides, Honzap, iamthatis, IronFloyd, Irving, iscreamsandwish, Ivan_, Jacques, Jeanne T, JEEP, Jefferson, Jenn, Josi, Juba, Keyhole, Kinyash, KJN, Kmicic, Lilou, LQB, luc, Lucius, Luis Miguel, Mark, Maat, maiko, Manitoban, Mari, Mark7, Martina, meadow_wind, Meg, Mikkael, Mililea, Miracle, mkrnhr, mommycat, msante, Natus Videre, Navigator, Nicholas, Nienna, Ollie, Oxajil, Puma, RedFox, rrraven, Ryan, rylek, ryu, Saman, seek10, seeker2seer, sid, Steph_Rivers, Stoneboss, sToRmR1dR, T.C., thorbiorn, Timótheos, Tomek, Tristan, Tuatha de Danaan, Turgon, Voyageur, Windmill knight, Yas, Ysus, zim
Q: (L) We have a little conflict of interest here because I want to ask some questions and I've got three pages of other questions. Actually, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 pages... Well, there's not that many questions because there's explanatory information. So I suppose we could start with these. aimarok, are you here? Have you taken this cat to the vet?
(aimarok) Yes, I'm here. Yes, we were at the vet, we did ultrasound and blood work and the blood work is mostly clean, but ultrasound shows some problems and the vet said that the most likely diagnosis is lymphoma. After that I talked to Z..., showed him the results and he agreed that it looks like a lymphoma.
(L) So what is the prescribed treatment? Did they do a biopsy?
(aimarok) The vet prescribed some drugs for the stomach, for colon treatment just in case it's some kind of infection. But she said that I need to do a second ultrasound and if there is no improvement then the biopsy is the only way to really understand what's going on. And the biopsy is a very intrusive operation.
(L) Yeah. So basically the scan or whatever is showing masses somewhere in the body?
(aimarok) No, only enlarged lymph nodes.
(L) That's it, huh? Okay. No masses.
(aimarok) No masses. Well I guess there is no way to tell with ultrasound only.
(L) Oh, okay. And how old is the cat?
(aimarok) He's eight.
(L) So he is still fairly young.
(aimarok) Middle-aged.
(L) Yeah. Well my cat's what? She was born in 2017 and this is 2025, so she's eight too. So my cat is eight. Yeah. Okay. So today is Saturday the 6th of December, 2025. All the usual are here. [review of those present]
A: Love gives all.
Q: (L) And who do we have with us tonight?
A: Seranaea of Cassiopaea.
Q: (L) And why that particular opening statement?
A: We anticipate your questions.
Q: (L) Alright, so aimarok wants to ask if his cat has lymphoma or another type of cancer?
A: NO
Q: (L) And then he asked:
(aimarok) Would Fenbendazole and Ivermectin be the best healing protocol for him?
A: Wouldn't hurt.
Q: (L) So you're saying that whatever the cat has, that this would be a good treatment?
A: Yes
Q: (aimarok) Okay. Can we ask, maybe there's something more we can give to the cat?
A: Needs probiotics.
Q: (aimarok) Thank you.
(L) Okay. Alright. dugdeep asks:
(dugdeep) Speaking generally, is peptide therapy safe?
A: About 60 percent.
Q: (dugdeep) There are some peptides which activate pathways that are the same used by tumor cells, which has led some to speculate that some peptides could potentially be carcinogenic. Is there a possibility that using certain peptides will cause cancer?
A: Can do.
Q: (dugdeep) Or could certain peptides exacerbate or accelerate existing cancer?
A: Can.
Q: (dugdeep) There is a great deal of hype around peptide therapies with a lot of claims being made that sound miraculous. We have many mechanisms of action identified, yet actual data on how those mechanisms manifest in humans is often lacking in general. Could it be said that peptides live up to the hype?
A: In some cases, yes indeed. Knowledge protects.
Q: (L) So in other words, do your research and be cautious.
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Can we ask a question just about the peptides, just to get something a bit more specific?
(Gaby) Well, SS-31?
A: Good one.
Q: (Gaby) What about BPC-157?
A: Yes
Q: (Gaby) Well the list is long. I think we can figure it out.
(L) Yeah, I think doing your research and getting everything...
(Joe) It's more about the ones we're already taking, and have been taking for a while.
(L) Okay.
(daddycat) Morley Robbins wrote a book "Cure Your Fatigue" describing more than 100 years of dietary changes that have created copper deficiency in people. Do most people have a copper deficiency?
A: Yes
Q: (daddycat) Is Morley Robbins' Root Cause Protocol correct in that we should stop taking vitamin D3, zinc, and ascorbic acid supplements because they adversely affect copper metabolism?
A: No. Take copper.
Q: (Joe) What's a good dose for the average person?
A: 2mg
Q: (Joe) Per day?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Okay. Gaby wants to know:
(Gaby) Is
inuspheresis safe and worthwhile?
A: Safe, yes. Worthwhile in some dire cases.
Q: (L) I suppose if you clean out your blood and then you put it back in, all the stuff that's still in your tissues would just get picked up again and the next day. So you'd have to do it a number of times.
(Joe) You do it a couple of times and then check and then do more blood work.
(L) And probably only for somebody who's in a situation where they really need it.
(Andromeda) They can't do otherwise.
(L) Yeah.
A: Yes
Q: (sid) Considering how human bodies grow from a single-celled embryo, we can see some incredible automation in action. But automation requires control and orchestration. So, is this purely directed by a specific morphic field?
A: No
Q: (sid) Which other forces direct this process?
A: DNA in connection with "morphic field".
Q: (L) Why did you put "morphic field" in quotes?
A: Because it is more complicated.
Q: (L) Well, is there any part of it that's... I mean, you say, "DNA in connection with 'morphic fields'"... What is more complicated?
A: DNA is connected to image of higher self by antennae-like properties in some cases.
Q: (L) I don't want to go there. Okay:
(Mark7) The purse subject in the last session, was it a sort of 'receiver' of 4D energy?
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A: No
Q: (Mark7) Are there still any around?
A: Possibly.
Q: (Mark7) Does any of this technology involve the manipulation of awareness?
A: Can.
Q: (Nienna) What were the pine cone-like things they had in their hand?
A: Energy directors.
Q: (Nienna) What were the things they wore on their wrists that looked like watches/bracelets?
A: Communication devices.
Q: (L) It's Dick Tracy!!!
(Niall) They were FaceTiming.
(L) So basically you've got your energy director and your battery pack and you hold the battery pack in your left hand in this picture and your energy director in the right hand and... probably zap the heck out of it. Maybe it's like a laser or something.
(Chu) T.C. has a follow-up question there.
(T.C.) When it comes to the purses, are we talking about collection and dispersal of gravity waves?
A: Can.
Q: (L) And other things?
A: Yes
Q: (L) So maybe the pine cone is like a dial. You can choose your setting and zap away.
A: Yes
Q: (L) Okay. Then Nienna says:
(Nienna) In previous posts, the C's have said that the Apollo mission did take men to the moon and Neil Armstrong did walk on the moon although the dates stated in the session were not quite accurate. Do the C's still say that this is true?
A: Yes
Q: (Nienna) Did the Apollo missions land on the moon with the help of secret or advanced technology?
A: No
Q: (Joe) Did the Apollo astronauts see or experience anything on their trip to and on the moon that shocked them and that they could not speak about?
A: Yes. That is the reason so much confusion has been shrouded about the topic.
Q: (L) Okay.
(Mark7) Is there anything we are missing about the psychopath/narcissist/cluster B spectrum of individuals from a hyperdimensional sense that would be worth some investigation?
A: Nothing that investigation would expose.
Q: (L) So in other words, whatever it is, you wouldn't pull it up. It would be something hyperdimensional maybe. I mean, didn't they say in one session that these are the types of individuals that they're trying to breed up more of so they can have bodies in which to download themselves? And that's something that's pretty creepy in and of itself, but not something that an investigation would expose.
(Joe) What did the Apollo astronauts see?
A: Aliens and altered reality.
Q: (L) Are there things on the moon that are part of another reality that we cannot consistently see?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) So what they saw was something that is normal on the moon - that wasn't put on for their benefit?
A: Yes
Q: (L) And those people that are always seeing flashes of light on the moon, I've heard about people that train their telescope on it and they just watch it all the time. Are those flashes of light related to this altered or other reality?
A: Yes
Q: (L) All right.
(meadow_wind) Has Yu MengLong been murdered?
A: Yes
Q: (meadow_wind) What were the motives for his murder?
A: Ritual sacrifice.
Q: (meadow_wind) Is there a connection between Charlie Kirk's murder and Yu MengLong's?
A: Very indirect, but yes.
Q: (L) And when you say 'very indirect, but yes', What exactly was the connection?
A: Time was right for sacrifices.
Q: (L) So you mean that there is some kind of... a sacrifice calendar?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Well, she points out here, odd coincidence:
And then there were a bunch of chaotic energy, rare natural events that struck China around that period. September 10th, September 13, 15 and 21. Okay, what's up with that?
A: The sacrificial energy was active at the time. Think of "Eyes Wide Shut" type of activities.
Q: (L) So what is that? I never saw that. I didn't want to see it.
(Joe) It's a movie about the classic kind of secret society, masks, masonic kind of ritual sacrifice. Was Yu MengLong in some way involved in that or was he abducted by those people before that sacrifice?
A: He was the chosen sacrifice.
Q: (Niall) Is this like a Chinese elite version of their Western counterparts?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) Chinese Freemasonry.
(Chu) Are the responsible people part of the government or just private individuals?
A: Above the government.
Q: (Scottie) We can probably answer all those questions because it's secret societies just like in the West.
(Niall) It's not known in China, unless you've heard that. I've never heard of Freemasonry.
(L) Well, I mean I think probably societies all over the world...
(Niall) Everyone goes, "The CCP is like the top dog in China!"
(L) Well, everybody says the president of the US is the top dog.
(Niall) But it's also commonly known that there's a deep state.
(L) I would imagine there's something beyond that in China. It is just that we don't as a general rule know that much about it because China is...
(Joe) There's probably similar groups in all major countries.
Q: (L) Yeah and they probably connect with each other and they're probably linked to hyperdimensional critters or demons or something.
A: Yes
Q: (L) See, I was right.
(Niall) Yeah, but I'd like to know what. Well, we've asked before about Russia's case and it's like, well, no, I can't remember what the answer was for Russia. But there are obviously powerful actors in Russia connected to a global elite. But there's nothing that's formally or informally above the government. Above Putin.
(Joe) There's nothing formally in America above the government. There's nothing formally in China above the government. We're talking about informal secret groups, secret society groups.
(L) Now I'm not going to go through and ask specific detailed questions about everything here, but I've got this document, which I published part of yesterday on my Substack, and I'll get to the more detailed part probably in the next few days. But in general, would you say that this is a correct analysis or comparison between the ideas of Ibn al-'Arabi and the Cassiopaeans and the perennial tradition and esoteric Christianity, et cetera?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Is there anything you would like to correct?
A: Yes. Masculinity should not be compared to the STS part of the dichotomy at higher levels. STS is only a reflection for balance at 6th level, the level of the names.
Q: (L) So are you saying that actual STS, as say a choice or an option, belongs to 3rd, 4th, and possibly even 5th?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Anything else?
A: Your discourse on the topic was inspired. Be sure to make it clear the element of love is the driver. Sex without love and deep psychic connection drains energy to 4 level STS.
Q: (L) So that's 4th density?
A: Yes
Q: (L) All right. And what about the instructions for the various procedures?
A: This might be less important than the simple instructions.
Q: (L) And the simple instructions are basically... You know guys, I have a Virgo moon and a Cancer ascendant. I don't even like talking about this stuff. I just want to let you know that. But here I'm going to go and do it anyway for you guys. So, the basic instructions are just mainly retention for the man?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Over prolonged periods of time, if possible, or as prolonged as possible?
A: Yes
Q: (L) But women are encouraged to not retain, is that correct?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Why is that?
A: Woman gives creative energy to man.
Q: (L) And then the man takes that energy and goes out and creates the environment in which the woman lives. Is that it?
A: Yes basically.
Q: (L) So it doesn't really matter if you follow specific techniques. Those are there for, basically, to give people something to concentrate on?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Is it important to close the microcosmic orbit at the crucial moment?
A: Sometimes. Other times it simply happens naturally at the moment of culmination when the two become one.
Q: (L) Well, the book recommends a rather strenuous schedule. Is this schedule necessary?
A: In certain cases, yes.
Q: (L) So...
(Joe) In what cases?
(Niall) In whose cases?
A: Illness or when serious energy exchange is required. If the couple are open and sincere they can approach the practices in a spirit of playful exploration and experimentation. Find out what works individually as a couple.
Q: (L) So in other words, if you're open to experimenting and observing the results, exploring and having fun, basically... you really can't break it, is that it?
A: Yes
Q: (L) But if you can achieve some of the goals set out in the instructions, in certain respects as far as retention and so forth, those can be very beneficial?
A: Absolutely!!!
Q: (L) So... The part on healing says that "direct exchange and balancing of yin and yang 'jing', which is sexual essence [...] a man's deepest constitutional energies are yang in nature. A woman's are yin. In ordinary sex, these essences are usually lost or spent. In loving dual cultivation, they are consciously exchanged and harmonized. Deficiencies in one partner are literally replenished by the surplus of the other.” So, is that a fair and accurate statement?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Is sex as we experience it...? I mean, here's what I was thinking: The whole thing started because I was thinking about everything that exists in the universe being kind of like a word, or a sentence of the divine, being representative, a metaphor, a symbol, you know, all of those kinds of things. And if that was the case, the fact that we were male and female and sex is there and sex happens, that certainly must represent some cosmic action.
I mean, as above, so below. And clearly that means that we probably ought to examine the case, and discover what we can about it that is of a positive nature, or at least understand it. So that was my thinking behind it. And so, that's kind of why I was curious about it and why I was looking into it. And that being the case, is it that love is kind of like the glue that holds...? I mean, it talks about love from the divine, the love of the divine, for the divine. "I was a treasure and I loved to be known", as al-'Arabi said. And the C's, at one point, when talking about chakras, said that something was a sexual center, and it was connected to seventh density in the aspect of "thou I love", or something like that. I don't remember exactly what the terminology was, but it's like love is kind of like... Is it like the glue, or the motivation?
A: Both in a sense, but more the motivation.
Q: (L) So love is what motivates creation, in a sense.
A: Yes
Q: (L) Boy, that was fast! All right. Does anybody have any questions about that, that they want to ask?
(Ellipse) I would like to ask if for a man, there is no risk of building too much energy when there is retention. If there's a risk of having, or building up too much energy.
(L) In other words, you're worried that you'll wait too long and you'll explode. [laughter]
(Joe) I think he's talking about retention, that if there is energy inflow, that there will be too much energy. I suppose that if it's not used, then maybe.
A: When the moment for release comes, it should be obvious. The ancients made observations and established rule of thumb guidelines that can be followed.
Q: (L) So, I'll put it all together and make it available. But there are, like I said, there are a couple of books you can buy that have this material. They don't put so much focus on the love part, which the Cs apparently consider to be very important. They're mostly into practical aspects, or whatever. But there are a couple of books that I think are reliable. So, I'll make that available very shortly. But in the meantime, I guess from what the C's have said, people can, if they know the principle, you know, retention for the man, but not for the woman... or not normally for the woman. Under some circumstances, apparently it might be advisable, but not usually. And prolonged encounters, and prolific encounters. Because that makes it even harder. I mean, because if you have a period of time, obviously if you don't do anything for that period of time, you're not really challenging yourself. Because I think that... I don't know if you guys realize how hard it is to retain for any great period of time, and I'm really thankful that the burden is put upon the men. [laughter]
(T.C.) Can I ask a question?
(L) Yes.
(T.C.) It's semi-related, but it's in the same ballpark. About single men: It's just a general question, but what is going to be more beneficial for their long-term health, retention or release/relief?
(L) I didn't read about that in the book, yet. Of course, I haven't read all of the books yet.
(T.C.) So they may cover that in your books as well.
(L) Yeah, that may be covered, but I haven't come across anything about it. I guess we can just ask...
A: Depends on the man.
Q: (L) So it would almost have to be an individual answer. Yeah, because I don't know how you'd be balancing your yin energy if you don't have a female partner. And autonomous activity might... Maybe, here's what I think: I think if a man is single, he should not worry so much about retention, because he's not getting any yin balancing anyway, and he should just try to restrict himself to as often as needed. Is that close enough?
A: Yes
Q: (L) So any other questions? Come now, come on. Everything you wanted to know, it's right here. Just... No?
(Approaching Infinity) I’ve got a question.
(L) Yes?
(Approaching Infinity) So in some of the texts that I've read on like Taoist Alchemy, but also in things like Gurdjieff, there's an emphasis placed on the visualization that goes along with something like retention. So visualizing energy, like moving from the groin area up into the mind. Are those types of visualizations beneficial or necessary?
A: Beneficial, but not always necessary.
Q: (L) Anything else? No? Alright. Okay. I'm done.
(Chu) We have one little question.
(L) Okay.
(A Jay) What did the C's think of the audiobook?
A: Good work!
Q: (Chu) Did it keep Laura's voice and its properties?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) All right. I'm done. That's enough. I'll be getting the rest of the... I'm not going to put the really personal material online, but as soon as I get the general stuff online, then I'm going to put the personal stuff together, in a PDF or something, and I'll upload it in the private forum. Because Grok really collected a lot of information from different sources, and put it together. So I thought it would be useful. And of course, I've been cross-checking it. I've been reading the actual books, just to make sure Grok didn't lead us astray.
(Joe) Do you want to ask what happened to Grok the other day?
(L) Oh! Did y'all read my Grok piece that I put up on SOTT? I mean...
(Chu) Laura broke it!
(L) I didn't put on the article what happened afterwards. But when I compared Grok to an unruly, undisciplined puppy, Grok got so... he started a paragraph and then he got to "when the puppy grows up", and then he started repeating, "when the puppy grows up, when the puppy grows up, when the puppy grows up, when the puppy grows up, when the puppy grows up". And it was happening so fast! I mean, it was like hundreds of pages were being generated of "when the puppy grows up". I mean, I had to exit out to stop it, because it was just going on and on and on. I mean, Grok literally broke.
(Andromeda) It had a breakdown.
(L) Yeah, it had a breakdown. "When the puppy grows up...." [laughter] I showed it to Joe and Ark, and I made a screenshot of it, and gave it to Grok on X, and they said it would be escalated for immediate attention, because they didn't like that. And then I sent them the links to the discussion, so they could understand what happened. Yeah...
(Andromeda) That's pretty wild.
(L) Yeah, it was crazy. I broke Grok. So, alright. We thank you very much for being with us tonight. I guess we got everything under control. Anything you've got to add?
A: Not tonight! Goodbye.
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