ICE agent fatally shoots protester in Minneapolis: Self-defense or police brutality?

The image is fake anyway, there are several things that give it away, but one of the agents has no head.

Yes, I saw that right away and was surprised that it was overlooked! :nuts:

Meanwhile, lots of input in local newspaper regarding ICE and the shootings with some very good points being made. Rights vs enforcement, the general thuggery of ICE, and that Trump's administration opposed expanded use of body cameras by immigration officers and sharply cut oversight staffing. Plus, the outlandish lying when it comes to administrative reporting of what's happened particularly the declared mind reading of what Pretti's intentions were. Suddenly, the 2nd Amendment doesn't apply to protestors or the 4th Amendment either! We're more than wading into dangerous territory with this ICE vs the people extreme encounters.

Meanwhile, recent reiterations of Dr. McCullough's findings that the C-vax primarily caused myocarditis in males ages 18 to 24 can hardly be ignored in view of the fact that the majority of illegal immigrants that invaded under the Biden administration are single males, ages 18 to 24, i.e. fighting age. Just a coincidence I'm sure . . . not!
 
This picture really cuts deep into me
Do you think you posted a fake picture?

According to Jeanne Massey, a neighbor, Pretti was part of a “Signal ICE” group chat of volunteers who organized a sophisticated operation to track ICE activity in real time and alert each other when agents were in the area.

These folks patrol streets, blow whistles, alert residents, and film operations to disrupt arrests.

That puts him not on the sidelines but plugged into the very network that coordinated responses to federal enforcement operations.
 
What circumstances preceded the shoving/tackling response that set it all in motion?

According to Jeanne Massey, a neighbor, Pretti was part of a “Signal ICE” group chat of volunteers who organized a sophisticated operation to track ICE activity in real time and alert each other when agents were in the area.

These folks patrol streets, blow whistles, alert residents, and film operations to disrupt arrests.

That puts him not on the sidelines but plugged into the very network that coordinated responses to federal enforcement operations.


The above sheds some light on the fatal shooting, but certainly doesn't justify it. Protesting is one thing, but this organized Signal ICE appears to unlawfully go beyond that. Supposedly Trump via Tom Homan will conduct a thorough investigation regarding the shooting and the Signal ICE operation. Others will pursue the Somali fraud scheme. There's more to all this than meets the eye and we can only hope that the real culprits behind what's going on are identified and brought to justice. Follow the money seems to be an appropriate sentiment.
 
Seems things are turning for the entire ICE drama in the US.

I came across a few articles from Spanish RT tonight, and these are their sources.

Greg Abbott says ICE needs to 'recalibrate' mission after deadly Minnesota shootinghttps://www.expressnews.com/politics/texas/article/abbott-ice-minneapolis-shooting-21315704.php

Greg Bovino Loses His Job


So, it would seem that somewhere in the administration there's a recognition that at the very least, they need a massive PR campaign to clean up their image domestically.
 
The above sheds some light on the fatal shooting, but certainly doesn't justify it. Protesting is one thing, but this organized Signal ICE appears to unlawfully go beyond that. Supposedly Trump via Tom Homan will conduct a thorough investigation regarding the shooting and the Signal ICE operation. Others will pursue the Somali fraud scheme. There's more to all this than meets the eye and we can only hope that the real culprits behind what's going on are identified and brought to justice. Follow the money seems to be an appropriate sentiment.
Do not know, perhaps some heads. Trump commented today on his good conversations with Waltz and Frey. After that Gregory Bovino has been removed. The Signal operation is no much of a wonder, is what the resistance and covert operations have been going on since the dawn of humanity. In a blacksmith's house, stick grill, I guess.
Seems things are turning for the entire ICE drama in the US.
Let's see how the drama unfolds in every side.
So, it would seem that somewhere in the administration there's a recognition that at the very least, they need a massive PR campaign to clean up their image domestically.
Will the PR campaign be sufficient?

Wise words from Former Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene to remember.
While you are being gas lit by the Political Industrial Complex, all over social media and the news telling you what you are supposed to be outraged about, think about this.

Republicans funded the Refugee Program by nearly $6 billion of your tax payer dollars in the DHS appropriations bill even though you have been losing your mind about paying for refugee funding while you discovered all the Somalia fraud.

And the DHS appropriations bill funds all of Homeland Security including ICE.

Now you have watched a shooting video probably over 30 times trying to figure out what happened, while a near civil war is being fueled in MN.

But look past the hype and focus in on the granular details.

The DHS bill funds both ICE and Refugee Programs.

The DHS bill funds doubling H2B visas and deportations at the same time.

Do you see how the Uniparty in Washington funds both sides and then gas lights you and drives you to hate each other?

It is all manufactured to drive your outrage and that is how they make money.

When the American People stop being baited into fighting each other, the American People will defeat the Political Industrial Complex that divides us all and can work to truly put Americans First.
 
Some relevant developing stories and observations:
Within the realm of possibility . . .

ed note–and just as much as Mossad can pose as CIA, they can pose as both 'ICE agents' who shoot American citizens as the necessary precursor to starting a civil war in the US and ‘Activists’ who act as ‘agents provocateurs’ who engage in violence against ICE agents in escalating tensions, again, as the necessary precursor to starting a civil war in the US…


On contemplating the above, this comment to Sott article, JD Vance notes something very important about Minneapolis chaos -
On THI-show.com 1/22/2026 Thomas Williams he gives information on the ICE agents trained by Israel and some of the agents are soldiers from Israel. Also Judge Napolitano he interviews a sheriff today from Arizona who says that there are platforms from Israel spying on Americans in Arizona. And what we are seeing in Minnesota has been happening daily in his area daily. Thomas Williams questions is there an Israel operation on American soil.

Next, a James Howard Kunstler piece excerpt:
Isn’t it obvious by now that the seditious mischief roiling Minneapolis is some kind of a demonstration project for a China-backed overthrow of the whole country?

It is well understood that these ICE-Out riots are organized and funded by a network created by one Neville Roy Singham (American, b. 1954), now based in Shanghai.
Singham funds the Party for Socialism and Liberation, The Peoples’ Forum, Code Pink, the United Community Fund and a web of other money laundries that supply all the logistics for Lefty-left mobs going back to the George Floyd / BLM operations of 2020 and including the pro-Palestinian uproars of 2024.

Singham’s father, Archibald, was a Sri Lankan poly-sci prof at Brooklyn College, specializing in Third World revolution; his mother was a Cuban-born Marxist. Singham founded a software development company called Thoughtworks in 1993, and sold it to a London-based private equity firm, Apax, for $785-million in 2017, after which he devoted himself to the cause of “dismantling capitalism,” and destroying the USA. If ever there was a James Bond villain come to life, it’s Neville Roy Singham.

And the above may relate to this rumble vid that linked from another Sott comment (hour and half+, so haven't watched it yet):

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In this shocking interview, I sit down with intelligence analyst Brian O'Shea to expose the communist infiltration of MAGA that nobody's talking about. We reveal how CCP propaganda has hijacked conservative influencers, why a new American Communist Party was launched specifically to recruit Trump supporters, and the patterns proving China's 100-year plan is working. Brian names names and connects the dots most people miss. If you're in the MAGA movement, your favorite influencer might not be who you think they are. This is the threat from within.

And yes, an actual massacre involving ICE:

Tom Homan pushes Border Patrol out of Minneapolis in sweeping shake-up as Trump's 'little Napoleon' Greg Bovino is given his marching orders
Border Patrol's ruthless commander Gregory Bovino - dubbed 'little Napoleon' - has been ordered to leave Minneapolis in a major shakeup inititated by Tom Homan.

Donald Trump sidelined Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem on Monday as he dispatched Border Czar Homan, an ICE veteran, to take charge of the deteriorating crisis in Minnesota after another deadly shooting of a protester on Saturday.

Homan is expected to hold a press conference later today where Bovino's departure, along with that of hundreds of his agents, will be announced.

Looks like FAFO works more than one way.

More on the ICE shake up:

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Cont.
White House officials sought to rapidly distance Donald Trump and top officials from their initial portrayals of the man fatally shot by federal officials in Minnesota as a gunman, as they faced a deepening backlash after video footage was widely seen to undercut their assertions.

The move came as Trump advisers appeared to realize that the caustic portrayals of the man, Alex Pretti, who was reportedly licensed to carry a gun, had turned the killing into an even larger political liability for the president.

Over the weekend, senior administration officials including Stephen Miller, the deputy chief of staff, called the victim “a domestic terrorist who tried to assassinate law enforcement”, while Kristi Noem, the homeland security secretary, accused him of perpetrating “the definition of domestic terrorism”.

The characterizations were undercut by video footage that showed Pretti was shot in the back roughly 10 times after being tackled to the ground by a group of US border patrol agents whom he had been filming, and disarmed of his gun.

It was clearly an execution fitting of an IDF operation. Nonetheless, more details regarding this tragedy:

There is a very important question about the crisis in Minnesota that most people are not asking.

When Alex Pretti died, what was ICE trying to do?

The answer is that ICE was attempting to deport an illegal immigrant with a criminal record that had been involved in domestic violence

The accused criminal migrant in the operation that resulted in the shooting death of a Minneapolis anti-ICE protester Saturday has been identified as illegal alien Jose Huerta-Chuma.

Huerta-Chuma, of Ecuador, was arrested by Department of Homeland Security officers on Saturday and apprehended for driving without a license, according to Border Patrol Commander Greg Bovino and the Washington Times.

Huerta-Chuma’s criminal record includes charges for domestic assault, disorderly conduct, and driving without a license, federal authorities said.


The mainstream media isn’t even talking about this.

Alex Pretti never should have been there.

He needlessly died trying to prevent the feds from deporting a violent domestic predator.

It is time for top Democrats to tell the rioters to go home.

If there are concerns about the tactics that ICE is using, they need to be addressed using legal means.

Civil conflict is not good for the country, but some top Democrats continue to stir the pot.

Well, I dunno. Will an attack on Iran quell any of this?
 
"masked officers entered the sites without warrants and detained workers based on appearance and occupation."

The above pertained to workplaces, but ICE no longer needs judicial warrants to enter homes (from Monday's Columbus Dispatch):

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ICE is being given a lot of leeway for these enforcements that should get additional legal scrutiny to ensure abuses of Constitutional rights aren't being given a pass. It is, unfortunately, a brave new world whether we like it or not.
 
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