ICE agent fatally shoots protester in Minneapolis: Self-defense or police brutality?

[Alejo]

Pretti, it seems, has not been avoiding confrontation. This is still no reason to kill him as they did, at least as far as is known - hence undertrained. So, given Pretti's prior agitating (which is just what is now known), it seems eventually it was not going to work out well for him. The Valhalla VFT guy also adds that it is not know if he reached for his gun while on the ground, it didn't look like it, but who knows.

There's another layer to this which I've been thinking about over the past few days, I think the angle of a color revolution tactic being pressed onto the US, perhaps to pressure Trump into compliance is perhaps becoming very evident.

But I also think about how apt the US is for some of these things to work so well, I am not sure if I would put it past some individuals to seek glory by "suicide by cop" just to push their agenda even deeper. Like, the best thing that can happen to someone so self centered, in a group of people where everyone's doing the same thing, is to stand out by becoming a martyr The mental state of some of these folks needs to be taken into account as well.

 

[Miracle]

Not to mention the ICE age, and the arctic POLAR VORTEX that is INVADING the US

I think you made a good connection. The last session gives weight to the latest ICE storm & ICE enforcement/protesting drama being less of a coincidence and more of the, "Universe having its own way of speaking" and that, "[The US] is being warned".

Q: (Niall) Was the 4.2 magnitude earthquake in southern Israel on January 15th in fact a naturally occurring earthquake?

A: Yes

Q: (Niall) What a coincidence.

(Joe) Was it just a coincidence then that the Israelis had planned an earthquake drill that exact morning?

A: Universe has its own way of speaking. Israel is being warned. What is a "promised land" if the land splits and subsides?

Q: (Joe) Are the Israelis aware of the potential risk of a major earthquake splitting and subsiding the land?

A: They underestimate.

 

[Mike]

With the focus being on specifically Minnesota and the events there and the left in the US starting to organize and take action in the Blue(er) states (I've seen today via twitter/X where Seattle and New Jersey are going to try to actual use police forces to track ICE instead of civilians using the Signal app), maybe older plans that were not fully implemented are starting to take shape in the US. It looks like the US government is starting to buy huge warehouse for ICE for, as of yet, undisclosed purposes. See the below link where I posted in the session thread where there was discussion with the C's from about 10 years ago about the closed Walmarts and what they were going to be used for.

Maybe a dedicated thread apart from this one should be started that tracks and discusses the possibility where Trump, ICE, the reaction from the left and progressives will all be used to implement these old plans...

Post in thread 'Session 2 May 2015'

Yesterday at 8:44 PM

ICE buy warehouses for mass detention network​

ICE buy warehouses for mass detention network

Breaking news from around the world.

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This article reminded me of this discussion with the C's about the closed Walmarts and what they were possibly going to be used for. Although delayed for about 10 years, we could be seeing the whole ICE vs the left controversy spurring the action of old plans that were put on the back burner...

Things do seem to be coming to a head where I also quoted about a 10 year old session in relation to other things like silver and Iran...

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[JEEP]

It looks like the US government is starting to buy huge warehouse for ICE for, as of yet, undisclosed purposes.

That's an unsettling development particularly in regards to past discussion on the subject. Meanwhile in Ohio, where most if not all of the major cities are blue, we may be on the cusp of our own Minneapolis quagmire:

Half a million Haitians nationwide to lose protected status on Tuesday. One can only wonder how that will go in Ohio and everywhere else.

 

[Voyageur]

Going back to the lady who was taken out in her car, I originally had said:

The shooter had cased out the scene (the car) better than the two guys just arriving, by walking around the car and seeing the driver up close. He also had a sense of the passenger who was standing on the street at the passenger side. Thus, he had some situational awareness, awareness of the driver and likely a sense of motive (why was she there and what might she do). Was the driver a 'real' threat? No, not really. Yet okay, suppose her actions began to be deemed a threat, what kind of threat?

Cross quote from the recent session:

Q: (Mrs. Peel) Was the woman who was recently shot in Minneapolis planning harm to the ICE agent with her vehicle, or was she just trying to get away?

A: Planning minor harm and getting away with it.

Q: (Mrs. Peel) Did he actually think he was in danger?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Why was that?

A: From the look on her face at the instant.

Q: (L) So that leaves out shooting her out of spite?

A: Yes

So, he though he was in danger and it was not in spite, and yet she had planned 'minor harm.' At that final moment "from the look on her face at the instant,' he seemed to have had the perspective to look into her eyes (or just the overall), and possibly in his mind, something about her conveyed the intensity of a real threat requiring deadly action. So yes, it can be understood that he saw something no one else did, and reacted. He may have seen something and misinterpreted it - overreacted (how it can be seen). Perhaps, too, all these officers are being feed real information that is going to make their hair triggers at risk of being hyper.

Have a look at just this one section of many:

Causing Suspects to Attack You - Force Science

To participate in police-reform discussions, it’s helpful to appreciate the multiple incentives driving the movement. Some believe that the police are members of a racist system and that violent criminals are merely responding to years of systemic oppression. Others believe that the police...

www.forcescience.com

“Officer-Created Jeopardy”​

In policing, the idea that officers can influence jeopardy is not particularly new. “After-action reviews” and training frequently address how tactical decisions can (or did) influence the intent, ability, means, or opportunity of the suspect.

Although frequently couched in terms of “officer-created jeopardy,” these reviews aren’t intended to blame officers for the decisions and actions of suspects. Instead, they identify strategies and tactics for officer-safety, that might simultaneously save suspects from the consequences of their own intended conduct.

Well-run tactical reviews encourage radical honesty as officers think critically about their decisions and performance. These shared experiences increase tactical options, improve decision-making, and help officers avoid repeating ineffective tactics. Equally important, after-action reviews allow supervisors to identify and limit when otherwise lawful police conduct may not align with the current agency or community priorities. Avoiding armed confrontations with people who are only threatening themselves comes to mind.

The car was deemed a weapon, and that is fair, it can be. So, all that was left was considering her intent with situational awareness around it - split second stuff; for the officer, the public around, other officers.

An officer’s real-time threat assessments are nothing more than “educated guesses,” or, if you prefer, educated judgments. They are reasonable beliefs informed by training, education, and experience. Incomplete information and intentional deception make it difficult to achieve a high level of certainty in these judgments. As such, perfection can never be the standard, and reasonable people can always disagree.

The officer has to now live with it and society needs to figure out how to stop this (Signals groups, agitating, corruption, better training...) as all this nonsense is only going to lead to more deadly encounters and further division.

 

[Laura]

That's an unsettling development particularly in regards to past discussion on the subject. Meanwhile in Ohio, where most if not all of the major cities are blue, we may be on the cusp of our own Minneapolis quagmire:
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Half a million Haitians nationwide to lose protected status on Tuesday. One can only wonder how that will go in Ohio and everywhere else.

But, but, but.... what happened to all the concentration camps we were told for years and years already existed? Why not just use those?

 

[Andrian]

But, but, but.... what happened to all the concentration camps we were told for years and years already existed? Why not just use those?

The whole sociopolitical situation in the US seems like a powder keg ready to explode by the right spark. If that scenario were to occur it won't benefit the people, that's obvious. We're being played out to fight each other off to someone else's benefit.

And, I don't know, I get the feeling that currently the earth changes are more and more proportional to the chaos that's being amplified by the actions of the PTB. That could lead to a lot of suffering for many. Didn't the C's mentioned recently that during this transition period we're finding ourselves in currently, many won't survive?

Probably it won't take long to find out how this whole situation will play out.

 

[JEEP]

But, but, but.... what happened to all the concentration camps we were told for years and years already existed? Why not just use those?

It seems those "concentration camps" garnered a lot of attention, a little too much attention, whereas closed Walmarts flew under the radar - well, except for us, thanks to the Cs!

What I do seem to remember were all those fusion centers - and no, they haven't gone away:

Ohio's primary, 24/7 active fusion center is the Statewide Terrorism Analysis & Crime Center (STACC), operated by the Ohio Department of Public Safety. STACC serves as the central hub for gathering, analyzing, and sharing intelligence among local, state, and federal law enforcement, along with private sector partners to prevent criminal and terrorist activity.

Key details regarding active intelligence efforts in Ohio include:

• STACC (Statewide Terrorism Analysis & Crime Center): Located in Central Ohio, this facility handles statewide threat analysis and information sharing, operating within the Ohio Department of Public Safety.
• Focus Areas: The center provides actionable intelligence for crime prevention, emergency response, and critical infrastructure protection.
• National Network: STACC works in conjunction with the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) national network of fusion centers, facilitating the exchange of information on threats.

For urgent threats or crimes in progress, 911 should be contacted immediately, as STACC functions primarily as an intelligence analysis unit.

From 2011:

Ohio's Homeland Security Director said that there was no means for agencies to share information before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Since then, fusion centers were created between the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and the U.S. Department of Justice's Office of Justice Programs. They gather information from government sources and from partners in the private sector.

Ohio's fusion center is located inside the Bureau of Motor Vehicles, 10TV's Kevin Landers reported.

"There are individuals who do domestic terrorism here and they're looking for groups within Ohio and adjoining states," said Capt. Richard Baron, the executive director of Ohio Homeland Security.

There are 72 fusion centers in the U.S. Three of them are in Ohio.

Inside the fusion center in Columbus, 10 state employees, at a cost of nearly $800,000, have access to federal, state and local law enforcement databases.

"This is an information center, not an action center," Baron said. "We receive things and we send things out."

If experts connect the dots through tips and police intelligence, an alert is sent to nearly every law enforcement department in Ohio, Landers reported.

"We do have access to classified information from the government level, but we're not Big Brother," Baron said. "We don't have access to every camera that's in town."

Not everyone is so trusting of the government's power to access information. Matt Curtin, a forensic computer expert, said that the more power the government is given to protect citizens, the more freedom is given up.

"We've historically been a free society and liberty is what we held most dear and if we are now going to become afraid of everything and we want someone else to protect us then we're giving up a great deal of our history," Curtin said.

While the state touts fusion centers as a key to providing key warning signs of possible plots of terrorism, others see it as an intrusion of one's civil rights.

"If fusion centers seem to be the latest way to collect information with little oversight, little authority, that leaves all of us taxpayers and citizens and civil liberties supporters wondering what levels of the government are up to," Curtin said.

Baron said law abiding citizens have nothing to fear.

"Civil rights and civil liberties are very important to us," Baron said.

In an age where Americans are understandably in fear of another terrorist attack, groups like the American Civil Liberties Union argue that the government has become a much bigger snoop secretly monitoring our lives, and eroding liberties, all in the name of national security.

"I think Americans, unfortunately, have gotten used to -- over the years and decades --given up rights in the name of whatever it is fighting criminal fighting terrorism," Curtin said. "We need to remember that these rights belong to Americans."

When asked if he believes the fusion center can stop a terrorist attack, Captain Baron responded, “Yes, absolutely, no question.”

https://www.10tv.com/article/news/go-inside-ohios-main-fusion-center/530-5ca47618-e791-43ca-9108-f8af00185ace

911 - the gift that keeps on giving.

OK - so I asked Google (now really just AI), how many concentration camps are currently in the US. The response::

Well, you just have to use the right terminology because concentration camp has too bad a connotation.

So, we have 72 fusion centers, a 100 active detention sites, and an additional 23 empty warehouses being converted to detention centers. That's still under the max of 363 that were utilized 2007 - 2009. I suppose these additions can be justified for the reverse migration of the 10 to 12 million illegals let in via Biden and friends. Sure - let's go with that . . .