Jeffrey Epstein arrested: Israeli-American pedo ring to be exposed?

[Fluffy]

My question would be: is Epstein in charge of the 4D STS aspect?

Not even close, he’s a loose feather on the tail of the albatross, completely disposable and replaceable and he knows it, otherwise he would to need to have a kompromat to feel safe and worthy.

 

[Ricardo]

So far according to transcripts J.E. was some sort of a fixer ( Slang dict. Link ) for the real powers.

Session 26 April 2025 :

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(Joe) Is our assumption that the whole Epstein case, his activities and stuff... that it was basically a Mossad or an Israeli blackmail or honey trap operation for all and everybody, whoever they could get, basically? Is that true? Is that basically what it was?

A: Yes.

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Session 28 June 2025 :

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(Joe) So he had to have it faked because they knew he had a dead man switch, but they wanted to take him out of the game because he had been too exposed; talk about him and what he was doing...

(L) Well, if he was being taken out of the game, it was his own choice.

(Joe) Well, either that or others who were controlling him, like Mossad and stuff, decided that he needed to be removed from the scene, but they couldn't just off him like they usually would because he had a dead man switch, which would release a lot of information if he was actually killed. So they agreed or organized with him to have his death faked.

(L) Yeah. Is that close enough?

A: Close

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[Cosmos]

I heard german mainstream radio for a while a couple of days ago discussing the Epstein files in quite some detail with an interesting twist:

They presented it as some form of “proof“ of “toxic masculinity/man“ implying rather directly that many if not all man are inherently to blame because they are inherently tailored towards evil or something because they are male.

 

[Ricardo]

I heard german mainstream radio for a while a couple of days ago discussing the Epstein files in quite some detail with an interesting twist:

They presented it as some form of “proof“ of “toxic masculinity/man“ implying rather directly that many if not all man are inherently to blame because they are inherently tailored towards evil or something because they are male.

NPC´s adjusting programming to new variables ? some sort of language process that ran astray ? egads... not even a LLM can be so faulty....

 

[Miracle]

I always think of Br`er Rabbit with Trump.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021285949963899163

I think this misses the compelling argument that Joe made earlier on the thread which they talked about in more detail on their latest show:

Having gained the confidence and gathered the information, when the time was right, the plan was to 'out' Epstein as a child abuser and trafficker [shock revelation, Epstein wasn't working alone, but for Israeli/US intelligence]. At that point, every single one of the people he had courted over the years were put on notice; not only were they now associated with a child sex trafficker, but more seriously, because of the information they had shared with him, the 'services' they had accepted from him, they too could theoretically be exposed because Epstein had been exposed.

This was all by design. Think about it. People with the power and influence to extract Epstein from a high security prison and replace him with a 'John Doe' lookalike stiff with ZERO repercussions, could easily have prevented their guy from ever being sent to prison in the first place. They wanted him prosecuted and in prison, at least for a while.

And of course, Epstein's 'friends' are all still wondering who now has the information on them that Epstein had, and what might they do with it. The threat of that alone is enough to have a chilling effect on them all and make sure that all of them toe the line, and think twice about speaking out about something that the 'deep state' would prefer they not. There is therefore no need to 'expose' any of them.

With the notable exception of Prince Andrew. No one seems to be wondering why he, alone, among the 'elite' was dragged through the media and made a pariah due to his ties with Epstein. The reason is that he was used to set an example of what could happen to the rest. And also to trash the image of the British royal family, which alone among the European royals still held a modicum of respect and sense of propriety, at least in the eyes of much of the British and wider global population.

Assuming this viewpoint is correct, the release of the Epstein files is not an organic act of justice which Trump was scheming behind the scenes to bring about. This was a deliberate deep state/Mossad psy-op to delegitimize the authority of Western governments. That is why Trump is pretending these files don't exist. Not because they implicate him, but because it greatly undermines his authority. This is a key distinction to make when trying to understand the nature of this drama.

Look at the effect it is having on the EU. If there was a true and thorough investigation into the Epstein files, many Western governments would likely fall:

The wave of revelations—particularly tied to the Epstein affair—currently hitting European politicians and institutions at vulnerable points could potentially shake systemic foundations. It feels like watching a high-stakes chess game, with coordinated pressure leading to a possible domino effect and shifts in power.

• Keir Starmer (UK) is viewed as a key player in the pro-Ukraine “Coalition of the Willing.” Broad propaganda support across Europe had made him largely untouchable—yet emerging scandals could change that dramatically.
• Emmanuel Macron faces his own challenges; it would be intriguing to examine whether he or his wife Brigitte Macron appear in any form on Epstein lists or in related connections (though recent file releases and reports show mentions of Macron's name in contexts like discussions or press clippings, with no direct evidence of wrongdoing, and some claims traced to Russian disinformation campaigns).
• Friedrich Merz (Germany) could be dragged in via links between Deutsche Bank and BlackRock, combined with the bank's alleged deep entanglement in the Epstein matter.
• Public attention shifts rapidly (e.g., away from the Putin threat) toward new, morally charged scandals—often with swift and severe consequences for those implicated.
• Deutsche Bank is seen as particularly deeply implicated in the Epstein affair; this could draw in wider circles and lead to more high-profile fallout.
• The intense focus on Prince Andrew feels like it could serve as a potential distraction maneuver.
• The EU is now reportedly pushing for its own investigative committee (in the Epstein context), which might spell political doom for Ursula von der Leyen.

Overall, many influential European figures—especially those central to Ukraine policy and EU leadership—are coming under mounting pressure from Epstein-related disclosures (or similar revelations). This could trigger cascading collapses and major realignments of power.

And so now, all Western governments need an even bigger, even crazier news story to make this go away. Sadly, I think war with Iran is a good bet.

 

[SummerLite]

I don't think Trump is capable of that level of planning—of seeing things that way (although I kind of like the idea, not really that much; the matter is delicate and needs a more practical approach, or else many could get away with it). I'm more inclined to believe he's just clumsily trying to contain all of this as much as possible because, in his view, he needs to maintain influence on his side to carry out his agenda, which doesn't prevent him from falling further and further into disrepute. He's helping to cover up for pedophiles! There's only one way the public will interpret that.

Just to give an example, he might unleash this whole affair when his term is about to end, if he even makes it that far and if he dares to confront the threats hanging over him.

From my perspective this is the big flaw in many people's thinking about Trump, he's a dummy. I wonder if this is the result of a worldwide propaganda campaign by the globalist mafia with edited videos etc. Why not do such a thing, it makes good sense. In all the years I've listened to him speak he's never appeared stupid but a highly intelligent man who is very well informed about the complex plan to bring the country down and what needs to happen to stop it. A sizable portion of the population see this as well whether its the drugs, trans, immigrants, a bankrupted nation, corrupt judiciary, brought about by the last 5 presidencies. He won in a landslide remember. Whatever the reason people think he's stupid the man is no dummy.

"He's helping to cover up for pedophiles! There's only one way the public will interpret that."

This is a part of the propaganda, what "they" want people to believe. Just like the EU/Dems now claiming "see, we threw our Epstein associates out of office, not like Trump or the US thats protecting them.......BS . There's plenty of reasons to say Trump was instrumental in exposing Epstein and the pedos. It comes down to what your core belief is about the man it seems.

It's also likely Trump has been threatened, is being influenced by Jews, is having information withheld from him and being given bad advise. But in spite of all that his purpose is the same, to expel the deep state and I see determination in that.

It's quite the phenomenon that a tremendous amount of attention has been placed on Trump, the whole world is glued to Trump. But, he's only one man and can't possibly be making all the decision's and plans that are coming about. He has a team of people working with him and all the rest of us supporting him. He's not just one man but represents millions and it's not all about him and what he wants.

 

[axj]

And so now, all Western governments need an even bigger, even crazier news story to make this go away.

Most Western governments are controlled by the globalist faction and the release of the Epstein files was done by the globalist-controlled Democrats. Unless the Zionists used blackmail to force the Democrats into damaging their globalist overlords, it looks like the globalists wanted this release for some reason and that they do not want it to go away.

The Zionists and Israel seem to be currently allied with the nationalist faction (Trump, Orban, Le Pen, AfD, etc.) which seems to be in conflict with the globalist faction (EU, UK, Canada, US Democrats, etc.). The main disagreement seems to be that the nationalists want to keep the US empire going in some form, while the globalists apparently want their one world government.

It is hard to say what the real relationship between the zionists and the globalists is. Are Zionists actually trying to damage globalist-controlled countries? It seems more likely that the globalists may benefit from the delegitimization as part of their apparent plan to introduce "rule by AI" at some point.

At the same time, it does look like the nationalists (or their technocrat "allies") want to introduce their own version of "rule by AI" where they are in control (Palantir, $500 billion "Stargate AI", etc.). The real relationship between the technocrats "allied" with Trump and the globalists (whom Trump seems to be fighting) is also unclear. Both seem to want a digital concentration camp system, but maybe they disagree over who gets to control it.

 

[mkrnhr]

Surprisingly, or maybe unsurprisingly, there are people, like in the mainstream media and some "influencers" who try to deflect, minimize, rationalize, or even deny the atrocities one can glance from the Epstein material. It is not dissimilar to what concerns the genocide in Gaza, and very often these outlets do intersect. It reminds me of "Acceptance of torture is the "mark of the beast." - session 13/11/2009".

 

[ApotheosisMMC.]

From my perspective this is the big flaw in many people's thinking about Trump,

Basically, yes, and that's why we disagree on several points.
I lean towards what I'm saying, without meaning to disagree with, for example, that he's aware to a certain extent of how the system works or that he lacks the autonomy to combat certain agendas you mentioned, for which he has considerable popular support.

But with others, I think he's likely in a tug-of-war he can't escape due to the potential threats against him and those close to him. I don't see him as the same as before, and the forces he faces won't give him a break this time, from what I can see.

There may be some unexpected events, but I wouldn't bet on him, at least not on issues related to Israel's interests.

 

[palestine]

Not even close, he’s a loose feather on the tail of the albatross, completely disposable and replaceable and he knows it, otherwise he would to need to have a kompromat to feel safe and worthy.

In this case, I see him as:

- an irresponsible 3D character, toying with 3D STS processes that have ties to 4D STS
- having low chances for survival
- not the boss (who's the real boss?)

 

[gottathink]

Assuming this viewpoint is correct, the release of the Epstein files is not an organic act of justice which Trump was scheming behind the scenes to bring about. This was a deliberate deep state/Mossad psy-op to delegitimize the authority of Western governments. That is why Trump is pretending these files don't exist. Not because they implicate him, but because it greatly undermines his authority. This is a key distinction to make when trying to understand the nature of this drama.

I recall an idea that deligitimization of all governments was to precede the appearance of saviours of some kind. Perhaps the unelected cabal is getting ready to step in with all their revolutionary globalist ideas and kick out the politicians sort of appointed by the people. I don’t know where that came from, was it from the C’s?

 

[palestine]

It is hard to say what the real relationship between the zionists and the globalists is.

I posted a long rant on Biden's Zionism here, as a sort of study of the idea!

 

[axj]

I posted a long rant on Biden's Zionism here, as a sort of study of the idea!

Some globalist-controlled media and politicians (eg. Spain, Belgium, Ireland, Norway) have been publicly confronting Israel because of the genocide. This does suggest some form of conflict between the Zionist/Mossad faction and the globalist faction, probably regarding who is on top.

Up until recently it looked like the globalists were basically unopposed and they still seem to be the most powerful faction of the Western cabal. Then with Trump it looks like the nationalists, zionists and technocrats united against the globalists - three factions against one.

Though most likely each of these three factions hopes to just use the others to get what it wants. Zionists want their Greater Israel, the technocrats want their digital control system with them ultimately in charge and the nationalists probably think the other two can help keep the US empire going.

 

[palestine]

Some globalist-controlled media and politicians (eg. Spain, Belgium, Ireland, Norway) have been publicly confronting Israel because of the genocide. This does suggest some form of conflict between the Zionist/Mossad faction and the globalist faction, probably regarding who is on top.

Up until recently it looked like the globalists were basically unopposed and they still seem to be the most powerful faction of the Western cabal. Then with Trump it looks like the nationalists, zionists and technocrats united against the globalists - three factions against one.

Though most likely each of these three factions hopes to just use the others to get what it wants. Zionists want their Greater Israel, the technocrats want their digital control system with them ultimately in charge and the nationalists probably think the other two can help keep the US empire going.

Hello, thank you for your post!

If I understand, a conflict going by:

Globalist-controlled groups vs Group 2 [Trump, Zionists, Mossad, Israel, technocrats, nationalists(Republicans)]

If so, I believe it is a miscalculation from Trump because those globalist-controlled entities would be trying to emancipate themselves ("from the matrix").

 

[JEEP]

Thought this was worth posting:

I mapped every connection between the 1,438 people named in the Epstein files. The network graph is insane.​

I’ve been building an open database of the Epstein case files for the past few months. Not to push any theory — just to make the raw data cross-referenceable. Once you connect the flight logs to the court documents to the emails to the black book, patterns start appearing that you can’t see when you’re reading individual PDFs.

[see article for details]

The thing that bothers me most isn’t what’s in the files. It’s what’s still missing. The DOJ claims to have released “all” records under the EFTA, but they’re still holding the island visitor logbook, the boat trip logs, 40 seized computers, 70+ CDs, and a computerized database. And somehow, not a single passenger manifest after August 2013 has been made public despite 835 documented flights between then and his arrest.

If anyone finds errors or wants to dig into specific names, I’m here.

Here is a handy link to the data website:

Epstein Exposed - Comprehensive Epstein Files Database