Another interesting study from 2009.


I think on this one they are actually working on the model that is probably used by CDC when they "cook" the numbers. But let's dive into it and see what we find...

Assessing the mortality impact of the 2009 influenza A H1N1 virus (H1N1pdm09) is essential for optimizing public health responses to future pandemics. The World Health Organization reported 18,631 laboratory-confirmed pandemic deaths, but the total pandemic mortality burden was substantially higher. We estimated the 2009 pandemic mortality burden through statistical modeling of mortality data from multiple countries.

We estimate that 2009 global pandemic respiratory mortality was ∼10-fold higher than the World Health Organization's laboratory-confirmed mortality count. Although the pandemic mortality estimate was similar in magnitude to that of seasonal influenza, a marked shift toward mortality among persons <65 y of age occurred, so that many more life-years were lost. The burden varied greatly among countries, corroborating early reports of far greater pandemic severity in the Americas than in Australia, New Zealand, and Europe. A collaborative network to collect and analyze mortality and hospitalization surveillance data is needed to rapidly establish the severity of future pandemics.

I don't think that after 11 years we have this collaborative network.

The researchers estimated that between 123,000 and 203,000 pandemic influenza respiratory deaths occurred globally from 1 April through 31 December 2009.

Please note that this is for 9 out of 12 months only.

Finally, the model attributed 148,000–249,000 respiratory deaths to influenza in an average pre-pandemic season.

These findings suggest that respiratory mortality from the 2009 influenza pandemic was about 10-fold higher than laboratory-confirmed mortality. The true total mortality burden is likely to be even higher because deaths that occurred late in the winter of 2009–2010 and in later pandemic waves were missed in this analysis, and only pandemic influenza deaths that were recorded as respiratory deaths were included.
 
Point taken, but I did say 'heading' which implies uncertainty of result. I also mentioned economic collapse which seems more certain by the hour
It seems Noah built his ark because it felt like the right thing to do and turned out pretty useful. :-) What ever happens, happens; at least your intentions are for the best possible outcome for you loved ones.
 
But do you know that slavians if even have covid they dont fill and in our slavic countrys maximum of deaths number is 35. So it was genetics gun virus for Russian, but we have same genetics with Russian : R1a1 genetics code. Watch on Coronavirus map slavic countries, I will help you: Russian, Ukraine, Belarus, Chezh, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia, Hungary, Estonia, Litva, Lithuania, Serbia etc. You can that Coronavirus dont touch slavic People. And cassiopeans said that genetics question will be more Hot, then before
I get what you're trying to say and possibly certain genes may be more open to STO orientation hence the milder or no symptoms.
 
I'm seeing more and more articles and posts around the web aimed at people who aren't convinced by the narrative. It seems that they're seeing more pushback but the only argument they appear to have is, 'it's going to get a lot worse very soon....if we don't stay at home'. It's brilliant really, since they can't be proven wrong.
Well, actually, they can if all collectively dismissed the curfews and broke out of 'jail' at the same time. :cool2:
 
From what I see developing, Netanyahu is behind a Military Campaign to use the Defender Europe 20 exercise (30,000 US soldiers alongside 7,000 others) to enter through Iraq - to penetrate the Syrian Border and occupy Syria - then directly attack Iran?
NATO will join forces with Military Troops amassed in Afghanistan? The Pentagon and the DoD approached Trump in a March 19 meeting in the Oval Office BUT Trump did not immediately green-light the campaign.
Oooh! I wander if that could be the war they peck and get their arses handed to them.:-D
 
Sure, why not. Does that bother you?
No, but if we have a theory about how specific genes are not affected then we have to be thorough and to be able to support it with data, otherwise it doesn't help. No? To me it seems more that the Countries listed have a different way of counting. In the end that is one of the major problems: we are comparing apples with oranges and try to project what will happen with plums.
 
At this time the Duran is having a live stream. Not a particular fan, they do occasional drop some gems. There was an interesting comment from and RN in Pennsylvania, she related that hospitals in the area are not even busy! Let alone filled with COVID patients. Travelling ICU nurses are being offered $5100 a week.
On a historical level, my first assessment is:
For millenia, humanity lived under a spiritual dictatorship (religions exo-meso-esoteric). The Black gowns....
This was replaced by socio-economic dictatorship, with a split system (capitalism-socialism).
Technological dictatorship ensued. The Grey gowns.
Now we are entering the age of the MEDICAL dictatorship. The White gowns.
Only possible after the previous dictatorships.
In order to have a better reading ahead, have a good look at how the new dictatorships came to be. Now we can understand better why what is happening is being done in such a way.
Today people live for their body. The ones that fear death the most are people that quite literally do not have one: a life, that is! Except for their fear of death. PROGRAMMING. We can fill-in the gaps between these states of dictatorship without using much imagination.
NOW for a very eery twist what if the programming of those in the MEDICAL DICTARSHIP state of mind interfacing with the virus(es) makes them preys to higher density STS/ STO, recipe for change?
Last time I saw a doctor, 2 months ago, the nurse before him, and then doctor spent 15 minutes reading my charts and both said out loud, I HAVE TO FIND YOU SOMETHING? (it was f#cking creepy!)
SERIOUSLY WE CAN SEE THAT THE PROGRAMMING IS MAKING DO AND SAY IRRATIONAL FROM HOSPITAL ADMINISTRATORS AND AUTHORITIES THINGS DAY IN DAY OUT!!!

I think that would create this new class of "superheroes" , the media is already pushing this. If some of them have a tendency to narcissism now they will really get on their throne. These will be some of the very few who will keep having decent salaries, in their own comfortable imagined universe of having saved humanity and deserving royal treatment. They will also probably be even more protected, I wouldn't be surprised if a new armed personnel will be put in place in future hospitals, ensuring the vaccine procedure.

Actually it makes a lot of sense: Doctor/nurses=superheroes=mandatory vaccine without questioning at the point of a gun, perfect scenario.:evil:

I don't know if it's related but I'm thinking tax return happens to be right on time. Maybe a way to extend the peace before the riots. I don't know if that was planned but it sure is welcomed in my account.

In my dream last night: I was living in a rented house and made some modifications to it, something hidden in the walls that I covered with sheetrock. This hidden thing was a way to pay for my car that needed repair( don't ask it's a bit weird).My father found out that I made these modifications because of some sheetrock dust on the carpet. He said he was going to tell my landlord about it.
But he also said not to worry that the car will be taken care of but he will tell the landlord.

The way I see this is coming clean (truth) actually will solve the situation even though it doesn't seem so.

7 pages behind, I thought I cought up yesterday but pages exploded today ! :scooter:
 

what about the removed article on The Guardian?

Removed: article

Hi @Bernardo, I notice that this is your first post here. Thanks for joining in!
We would like to get to know you, so if you could write an introductory post in the Newbies section telling us a bit about yourself, how you found your way here and if you've read any of the suggested material, we will give you our official welcome :-)



I have a feeling that these leaders going into self isolation is also part of the script, to somehow show they are part of the people. What do you think?

Well, a spin story of contracting the coronavirus could also be used as a cover-up to disappear into the bunkers!

If that's the case, it's kind of funny because while they're bunkering, we're hunkering :-D
 
Not sure if this video came up before, sorry haven't gone through all the thread yet.

It's an interview with a couple of men I'm not familiar with. Covers Fort Detrick bio weapons, leak and shut down. And also about the military games at Wuhan, with some athletes contracting a like illness there. Basically addressing the idea that patient zero wasn't from Wuhan and how it looks as if it derived from the US.
 
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