Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?

[angelburst29]

It's being reported that Putin and Trump had a phone conversation, after which Lavrov had a phone conversation with Pompeo. I don't know, if Trump's conversations with Heads of State and other President's are recorded but I Pray, if something really big is in the works, that a form of Divine intervention would play a hand?

Lavrov, Pompeo Discuss Coronavirus, Syria, Strategic Stability Via Phone Call - Russian Ministry
30.03.2020 - The total number of COVID-19 cases around the world has so far exceeded 745,300, with more than 35,300 deaths.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo have discussed the coronavirus pandemic, the international agenda, including strategic stability and the Syrian crisis settlement, as well as some aspects of bilateral relations, the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

"In continuation of the phone talks between the Russian and US presidents, held several hours earlier, the foreign ministries' heads have continued exchanging opinions on the global situation caused by the coronavirus pandemic. They have confirmed the intention to contribute to the implementation of decisions reached at the G20 summit, held on 26 March in a video conference format", the ministry went on to say.

Last week, the Russian foreign minister conducted phone talks with his Chinese counterpart Wang Yi, United Arab Emirates (UAE) Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah Al Nahyan, his French counterpart Jean-Yves Le Drian, as well as Milorad Dodik, the Serb member of the tripartite Presidency of Bosnia and Herzegovina (BiH), to discuss the COVID-19 pandemic and the necessary steps to contain the spread of the virus.

Trump Says Russia Sent 'Very, Very Large Planeload' of Supplies to US to Fight COVID-19
30.03.2020 -The United States has become the country with the highest number of confirmed COVID-19 cases, followed by Italy and Spain, as the coronavirus tally continues to soar in the country.

Russia and China have sent various supplies, including medical equipment, to the United States to help battle the novel coronavirus disease, US President Donald Trump said during a daily White House briefing on Monday.

"China sent us some stuff, which was terrific. Russia sent us a very, very large planeload of things, medical equipment, which was very nice", the president said.


UK to Stay in Partial Lockdown for 6 Months - Health Official
29.03.2020 - LONDON - It could take the United Kingdom about six months to see whether it can relax the partial coronavirus lockdown, deputy chief medical officer Jenny Harries said Sunday.

 

[stellar]

No, but if we have a theory about how specific genes are not affected then we have to be thorough and to be able to support it with data, otherwise it doesn't help. No? To me it seems more that the Countries listed have a different way of counting. In the end that is one of the major problems: we are comparing apples with oranges and try to project what will happen with plums.

I'm really not concerned with fruitcakes at the moment. I don't care who has what genes. I am concerned with their mindset and whether they are seeing reality or not. Peoples actions show me if they are of good 'seed' so to say, and that is good enough start for me to give them attention.
All these countries can count whatever they want; fluff particles in their naval, for all I care. It is all aimed at scaring and confusing more into control, IMO.

 

[Jasophoria]

For me the bottom line of this is: Austerity politics in the medical branch created a bottleneck situation when you have spikes in needed beds. And besides his lousy maths, concerning every medical worker needed, why are they not only closing down entire hospitals but also preventing MDs to do work at their private practices? They are actively working on getting this bottleneck even tighter.

You can also transfer patients to another hospital in your country.
We do the same here in the Netherlands.
We have an ambulance bus that can transfer multiple patients to another hospital in the country.

 

[WIN 52]

At the begging of this I assumed, no matter what it was, China would use this situation for removing it's dissidents.

The main dissention in China comes from outsiders. They have a love hate attitude towards the West. They love our money and hate our policies. Just like the West loves to hate them, thanks to the media. Why? Because China kicked out western control. The people took back control of their country from Japanese, British and American oligarchs. They are very smart and I would trust what they say more than anything any western scripted report has to offer.

Another prime example is Russia. I would suspect it is similar for North Korea, Iran, Libya and etc. The Crimean Peninsula never wanted to be partitioned out of Russia and suffered under those circumstances for years. All in the favor of western oligarchs. Please stop sounding like them.

I have worked with Western and Chinese officials. I always knew which side to place my trust in, with regards to business.

 

[Stoneboss]

This guy obviously failed math. In a population of 300,000, where ALL (as he says) will get infected, you don't take that entire population and suggest that "even if a low number of 0.5% of those needs ICU, that will be 1,500 people". You take the likely number of the 300,000 that will need hospital treatment, probably 10%, and then take 0.5% of THAT, i.e. 150 people needing ICU. BIG DIFFERENCE, and one that DOES NOT NECESSITATE A LOCK DOWN.

I find that to be incredible. Just that one little statement (it's actually not so little) completely nullifies his entire message. And I'm pretty darn sure he did it intentionally. Wish I could be as 'aware' as you Joe.

 

[Arne]

One thing that I'm noticing is that many articles and official announcements seem to be using the words coronavirus and COVID-19 interchangeably. But are they really the same thing? I'm thinking of coronavirus as the wild virus and COVID-19 as the lab engineered version, so my thoughts could be off. Given that they haven't distinguished between coronaviruses and COVID-19 in tests, then it's likely that they are using the words interchangeably as part of the spin in the media.

Def a spin so we don't get that it is related to SARS? The virus SARS-CoV-2 and the disease is called Covid-19.

Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research - Nature

Lab-made coronavirus related to SARS can infect human cells.

www.nature.com

"Other experiments in the study show that the virus in wild bats would need to evolve to pose any threat to humans — a change that may never happen, although it cannot be ruled out. Baric and his team reconstructed the wild virus from its genome sequence and found that it grew poorly in human cell cultures and caused no significant disease in mice.


“The only impact of this work is the creation, in a lab, of a new, non-natural risk,” agrees Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and biodefence expert at Rutgers University in Piscataway, New Jersey. Both Ebright and Wain-Hobson are long-standing critics of gain-of-function research."

 

[Laura]

I get what you're trying to say and possibly certain genes may be more open to STO orientation hence the milder or no symptoms.

I don't think we can say that being "open to STO orientation" would result in milder symptoms. That's a HUGE assumption.

 

[Laura]

I find that to be incredible. Just that one little statement (it's actually not so little) completely nullifies his entire message. And I'm pretty darn sure he did it intentionally. Wish I could be as 'aware' as you Joe.

Not so sure that it was intentional. I think he was regurgitating talking points. And those talking points came down from "above". So the error is in those who are creating the talking points. One wonders if they are that stupid too? Or is it intentional on their part? It seems to me that this is the same message that all other doctors and hospitals are getting and they all seem to be buying into it.

 

[Agron]

I have been following the DJB reactions as an opposition for a few months as I have been planning to return 'home' within the next couple of years and wanted to know how things were run over there. They certainly have a better grip on reality than most and would make better leaders than others. Unfortunately the PTB will surely put up a fight to keep things as they are and the population misinformed and under control.
There is also the young fella in Croatian parliament whose name I can't remember right now, that is constantly badgering the existing leadership by throwing truth in their face who has his head on straight, IMO.

The name is Ivan Pernar.
He has a youtube channel IvanPernarTV

Balkan region will need its expats to return and fortify the good energy in the region for sure!! Too many have fled for better economic and intellectual situations (which is understandable!!) but have sort of left this region at the mercy of un-conscious and TV/radioo robots.

I welcome you back @stellar

 

[Agron]

You can make anything look like a crisis, if you choose the right camera angle, but sooner or later, reality will catch up with you. Only psychopaths think it won't.

Aint that the truth .. And we are seeing what happens when rulling psychos overcalculate and play a wrong bluff.
Last 2-3 days I even sing to myself. This line : The PTBs are going down ( I have replaced Frère Jacques lyrics quite successfuly ahahahahaha)

 

[stellar]

The name is Ivan Pernar.
He has a youtube channel IvanPernarTV

Balkan region will need its expats to return and fortify the good energy in the region for sure!! Too many have fled for better economic and intellectual situations (which is understandable!!) but have sort of left this region at the mercy of un-conscious and TV/radioo robots.

I welcome you back @stellar

This whole lockdown drama has put a wrench in the works but I still remain hopeful. Thank you

 

[Persephone]

I come across an interesting post in FB of Roch Sauquere. He runs the magazine "Top Secret" about hidden historical and contemporary events. I haven't heard about him before, but made a brief search on google and it seems that some of his theories are not so far from truth. Anyway what is a bit encouraging here is that he is quite known and followed.

Here the translation of his post:

"I have not received any real-world testimonials telling me from a reliable source that our nation's ICU system is overwhelmed.
It appears that Corona Virus is not as deadly as it is being presented to us. Certainly it is extremely contagious and we may already be 60 or 70% of the population that has been affected.
But this contamination does not require hospitalization for people who are in good physical condition.
At least as far as France is concerned. In any case at this stage. These are factual data from the real world.

I have evidence that people who have the symptoms and arrive at the hospital are sent home without even being tested.
So this strain of coronavirus is a kind of wet firecracker. In the virtual world, TV, social networks, we make the numbers say what we want!
Remember the tricks of science, NASA, archaeology and history? It's a bone to gnaw for the recalcitrant sheep who absolutely want the situation to be more catastrophic than it is. This gnawing bone makes us blind! Make an effort. Come out of hypnosis!

It seems that the vast majority of intensive care units in France are absolutely not overwhelmed. This is why the authorities are transferring some patients from the East (where there are more cases, older people too, and perhaps also more vaccinations as in Ile de France, and Lombardy (but this question remains to be studied)) to other hospitals in France whose intensive care units are in a state of dead calm.
This is what happens in the real world.

I have proof that the government has not taken up the offer of help from private clinics that have offered to make their intensive care unit services available to them. The reason public hospitals have not grasped this extended hand is not out of ill will, it is simply because they do not even have enough seriously ill patients to fill the public hospitals.

So I say to you: given the harmlessness of the virus, given the fact that we have Chloroquine, nothing can justify this lockdown any longer, which will destroy the entire real economy of the country, small traders, small craftsmen, SMEs, self-employed people? And provoke a crisis much worse than anything you can imagine about COVID-19 .
Nothing can justify the extension of a confinement that is really lethal, generating pathologies, anguish, and death (heart attacks, strokes, etc).
It's tomorrow's deaths I'm worried about. Because the cure (lockdown) is obviously much worse than the evil we are fighting today.
The cure by confinement, I'm telling you, will be far worse than the virus. That is why we must think now about demanding the quickest possible exit from the lockdown.

It's time to come out of Plato's cave, folks. And face the truth. Like those who were locked in the cave, you will realize that monsters are not what you think they are and that the danger is not what you think it is.
Thank you for taking the time to meditate on this. It's time to get back to the real world, folks! Cause the real world's gonna catch up with us real soon."

Here the link of the FB post (in French):

https://www.facebook.com/roch.sauquere/posts/3955356934489589

 

[nature]

Thank you.
Actually i am on vitamin C 5-7 g/die and a 1/2 teaspoon of sodium Bicarbonate. I use also a good multivitaminic with megadoses of B vitamins and Magnesium maleate every day. I also use in the last months 25-50mg of DHEA due to a lower value on blood findings and suggested by a endocrinologist

Very good! Do you also give such prescription to your patients? (not for corona only)

 

[stellar]

I don't think we can say that being "open to STO orientation" would result in milder symptoms. That's a HUGE assumption.

" by virtue of the virus taking hold in certain persons whose spiritual force was able to direct the progression"
I was more referring to this statement by the Cs, not actually assuming superiority of any genetic makeup. I guess maybe it was phrased poorly so as to mislead in my meaning.

 

[Laura]

" by virtue of the virus taking hold in certain persons whose spiritual force was able to direct the progression"
I was more referring to this statement by the Cs, not actually assuming superiority of any genetic makeup. I guess maybe it was phrased poorly so as to mislead in my meaning.

"Direct the progression" probably did not refer to the progression of the disease as the context was that of mutation. That is, directing the progression of the mutation.