Oslo Bombing and Utoya Island Massacre

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Interesting call with Alex Jones about a witness seeing men in black around the area before the bombing in Oslo earlier today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K17eZioS_hA

Also, interesting comment made by a viewer on youtube:

"Norway backs Palestinian bid for UN recognition in September" - July 21, 2011

"Norway Announces Withdrawal From Libya Campaign by Aug 1" - June 10, 2011

Just in November, U.S was caught spying on citizens of 5 scandinavian countries which include Norway. google: 'Major spy scandal as five Scandinavian governments catch the U.S. watching their citizens'. This was a long time pre-planned operation.
 
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Sounds like more of the 'same old same old'. Keeping the terror threat ticking over. Once we understand the modus of the intel agencies, it's pretty transparent. I mean an "unknown group called 'Helpers of the Global Jihad"????

Of course, knowing who is most likely behind it does nothing to dampen the horrific nature of it, it makes it even worse (if that's even possible). :cry:
 
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Anyone see a pattern here?


_http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/norway-backs-palestinian-bid-for-un-recognition-in-september-1.373914
Published 20:59 18.07.11
Latest update 20:59 18.07.11

Norway backs Palestinian bid for UN recognition in September
Norwegian FM says 'it is perfectly legitimate' for Palestinian president to turn to the UN with a proposal for statehood.


_http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=402842
Report: Iceland backs recognition of Palestinian state
Published Wednesday 06/07/2011 (updated) 06/07/2011 14:34
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AMMAN, Jordan (Ma'an) -- Iceland's foreign minister on Tuesday indicated that his country would support a Palestinian initiative to gain recognition of statehood, a Jordanian news service reported.

_http://occupiedpalestine.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/finnish-fm-confirms-support-to-pa/
Finnish FM confirms support to PA

April 29, 2011 by occupiedpalestine 0 Comments
HELSINKI, Finland (Ma’an) — Finland’s foreign affairs minister confirmed his country’s support for the Palestinian Authority’s political and economic program, in a meeting with caretaker PA Planning Minister Ali Al-Jarbawi on Friday.

_http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/586/a/108948
Sweden increases its support to the Palestinian Authority

Today the Government decided to earmark SEK 50 million for direct support to the Palestinian Authority.

"The Palestinian Authority is in a difficult economic situation and risks collapse if wage and other payments cannot be made. A functioning Palestinian Authority is a prerequisite for a peaceful and sustainable solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Consequently it has been a matter of urgent concern to us to be able to give Prime Minister Fayyad a speedy and positive response," says Minister for International Development Cooperation Gunilla Carlsson.

Sweden is one of the largest donors to the Palestinians.

_http://www.ambbeirut.um.dk/en/menu/AboutUs/News/DANISHGOVERNMENTANNOUNCESUPGRADINGTHESTATUSOFTHEPALESTINIANREPRESENTATIONINCOPENHAGEN.htm?printmode=True

DANISH GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCES UPGRADING THE STATUS OF THE PALESTINIAN REPRESENTATION IN COPENHAGEN
Danish FM Espersen meets President Abbas i Copenhagen

On March 9, 2011 the Danish Minister for Foreign Affairs, Mrs. Espersen met with the President of the Palestinian Authority, Mr. Mahmoud Abbas, during his first visit to Denmark. This was an excellent occasion to discuss the lack of progress in the peace negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians and to listen to the Palestinian assessment of ways to break the deadlock and views on the events unfolding in the region. The Foreign Minister stressed that both parties share a responsibility to resume the negotiations and encouraged President Abbas to return to the negotiating table. The Foreign Minister also expressed appreciation for the Palestinian achievements in state-building and announced the Danish Government’s decision to upgrade the status of the Palestinian representation in Denmark.

Denmark strongly supports the Palestinian state-building agenda and has been promoting EU-support to Prime Minister Fayyad’s ambitious two-year development plan aimed at establishing the necessary foundation for a viable Palestinian state.

_http://www.shoah.org.uk/2011/07/20/norway-backs-palestinian-bid-for-un-recognition-in-september/
Norway backs Palestinian bid for UN recognition in September

Posted on20 July 2011.

Norwegian FM says ‘it is perfectly legitimate’ for Palestinian president to turn to the UN with a proposal for statehood.
Norway, host of the 1993 Palestinian-Israeli peace accords, said on Monday it was “perfectly legitimate” for Palestinians to take their case for statehood to the United Nations for voting in September.
 
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Latest news, this is really shocking:

_http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/world/europe/23oslo.html

July 22, 2011
At Least 80 Are Dead in Norway Shooting
By ELISA MALA and J. DAVID GOODMAN
OSLO — A lone political extremist bombed the government center here on Friday, killing 7 people, the police said, before heading to an island summer camp for young members of the governing Labor Party and killing at least 80 people.

The police arrested a 32-year-old Norwegian man in connection with both attacks, the deadliest on Norwegian soil since World War II.

The explosions in Oslo, from one or more bombs, turned the tidy Scandinavian capital into a scene reminiscent of terrorist attacks in Baghdad or Oklahoma City, panicking people and blowing out windows of several government buildings, including one housing the office of the Norwegian prime minister, Jens Stoltenberg, who was unharmed.

The state television broadcaster, citing the police, said seven people had been killed and at least 15 wounded in the explosions, which they said appeared to be an act of domestic terrorism.

Even as the police locked down a large area of the city after the blasts, the suspect, dressed as a police officer, entered the youth camp on the island of Utoya, about 19 miles northwest of Oslo, a Norwegian security official said, and opened fire. “He said it was a routine check in connection with the terror attack in Oslo,” one witness told VG Nett, the Web site of a national newspaper.

Of the at least 80 people killed on the island, some were as young as 16, the police said on national television early Saturday.

Terrified youths jumped into the water to escape. “Kids have started to swim in a panic, and Utoya is far from the mainland,”
said Bjorn Jarle Roberg-Larsen, a Labor Party member who spoke by phone with teenagers on the island, which has no bridge to the mainland. “Others are hiding. Those I spoke with don’t want to talk more. They’re scared to death.”

Many could not flee in time.

“He first shot people on the island,” a 15-year-old camper named Elise told The Associated Press. “Afterward he started shooting people in the water.”

Most of the campers were teenagers but there were also adults on the island, who may have been among the victims.

After the shooting the police seized a 32-year-old Norwegian man on the island, according to the police and Justice Minister Knut Storberget. He was later identified as Anders Behring Breivik and characterized by officials as a right-wing extremist, citing previous writings including on his Facebook page.

The acting police chief, Sveinung Sponheim, said the suspect’s Internet postings “suggest that he has some political traits directed toward the right, and anti-Muslim views, but if that was a motivation for the actual act remains to be seen.”

He said the suspect had also been seen in Oslo before the explosions. The police and other authorities declined to say what the suspect’s motivations might have been, but many speculated that the target was Mr. Stoltenberg’s liberal government.

“The police have every reason to believe there is a connection between the explosions and what happened at Utoya,” the police said. They said they later recovered explosives on the island.

Mr. Breivik had registered a farm-related business in Rena, in eastern Norway, which the authorities said allowed him to order a large quantity of ammonium nitrate fertilizer, an ingredient that can be used to make explosives. Authorities were investigating whether the chemical may have been used in the bombing.

A Facebook page matching his name and the photo given out by the police was set up just a few days ago. It listed his religion as Christian, politics as conservative. It said he enjoys hunting, the video games World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2, and books including Machiavelli’s “The Prince” and George Orwell’s “1984.”

There was also a Twitter account apparently belonging to Mr. Breivik. It had one item, posted last Sunday: “One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100,000 who have only interests.”

As the investigations continued, the police asked people to leave the center of Oslo, stay indoors and limit their cellphone use. They also said they would initiate border checks.

The attacks bewildered a nation better known for its active diplomacy and peacekeeping missions than as a target for extremists.

In Oslo, office workers and civil servants said that at least two blasts, which ripped through the cluster of modern office buildings around the central Einar Gerhardsen plaza, echoed across the city in quick succession around 3:20 p.m. local time. Giant clouds of light-colored smoke rose hundreds of feet as a fire burned in one of the damaged structures, a six-story office building that houses the Oil Ministry.

The force of the explosions blew out nearly every window in the 17-story office building across the street from the Oil Ministry, and the streets on each side were strewn with glass and debris. The police combed through the debris in search of clues.

Mr. Stoltenberg’s office is on the 16th floor in the towering rectangular block, whose facade and lower floors were damaged. The Justice Ministry also has its offices in the building.

Norwegian authorities said they believed that a number of tourists were in the central district at the time of the explosion, and that the toll would surely have been higher if not for the fact that many Norwegians were on vacation and many more had left their offices early for the weekend.

“Luckily, it’s very empty,” said Stale Sandberg, who works in a government agency a few blocks down the street from the prime minister’s office.

After the explosions, the city filled with an unfamiliar sense of vulnerability. “We heard two loud bangs and then we saw this yellow smoke coming from the government buildings,” said Jeppe Bucher, 18, who works on a ferry boat less than a mile from the bomb site. “There was construction around there, so we thought it was a building being torn down.”

He added, “Of course I’m scared, because Norway is such a neutral country.”

American counterterrorism officials cautioned that Norway’s own homegrown extremists, with unknown grievances, could be responsible for the attacks.

Initial reports focused on the possibility of Islamic militants, in particular Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami, or Helpers of the Global Jihad, cited by some analysts as claiming responsibility for the attacks. American officials said the group was previously unknown and might not even exist.

There was ample reason for concern that terrorists might be responsible. In 2004 and again in 2008, the No. 2 leader of Al Qaeda, Ayman al-Zawahri, who took over after the death of Osama bin Laden, threatened Norway because of its support of the American-led NATO military operation in Afghanistan.

Norway has about 550 soldiers and three medevac helicopters in northern Afghanistan, a Norwegian defense official said. The government has indicated that it will continue to support the operations as long as the alliance needs partners on the ground.

Terrorism specialists said that even if the authorities ultimately ruled out Islamic terrorism as the cause of Friday’s assaults, other kinds of groups or individuals were mimicking Al Qaeda’s brutality and multiple attacks.

“If it does turn out to be someone with more political motivations, it shows these groups are learning from what they see from Al Qaeda,” said Brian Fishman, a counterterrorism researcher at the New America Foundation in Washington. “One lesson I take away from this is that attacks, especially in the West, are going to move to automatic weapons.”

Muslim leaders in Norway swiftly condemned the attacks. “This is our homeland, this is my homeland,” said Mehtab Afsar, secretary general of the Islamic Council of Norway. “I condemn these attacks, and the Islamic Council of Norway condemns these attacks, whoever is behind them.”

Elisa Mala reported from Oslo, and J. David Goodman from New York. Reporting was contributed by Souad Mekhennet, Ravi Somaiya and Matthew Saltmarsh from London; Katrin Bennhold from Paris; and Eric Schmitt from Washington.
This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Correction: July 22, 2011


An earlier version of this article erroneously stated that Utoya is about 25 miles northwest of Oslo. In fact, it is 19 miles from central Oslo.
 
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A Facebook page matching his name and the photo given out by the police was set up just a few days ago. It listed his religion as Christian, politics as conservative. It said he enjoys hunting, the video games World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2, and books including Machiavelli’s “The Prince” and George Orwell’s “1984.”

There was also a Twitter account apparently belonging to Mr. Breivik. It had one item, posted last Sunday: “One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100,000 who have only interests.”
Interesting.
 
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Witnesses at the Utoya massacre are describing a second shooter, 180cm, thick black hair and nordic looking.
This has not been confirmed by authorities.
 
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These events certainly seem to have come as a shock to most norwegians, considering that 'we' seem to have been thinking of this country as an external observer to similar events occurring around the world, whereas now the matter is quite different.

My condolences go out to the families and friends of those passed on.
 
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Seems he was a freemason also

Han er også frimurer og medlem af St. Olaus T.D Tre søjler logen, skriver vg.no.
(He was also a freemason and member of St Olaus T.D.- My rough translation)
http://www.bt.dk/udland/ekspert-derfor-gjorde-han-det
In Danish.
 
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Guardian said:
Anyone see a pattern here?

Norwegian FM says ‘it is perfectly legitimate’ for Palestinian president to turn to the UN with a proposal for statehood.
Norway, host of the 1993 Palestinian-Israeli peace accords, said on Monday it was “perfectly legitimate” for Palestinians to take their case for statehood to the United Nations for voting in September.


Actually Norway's support for Palestine did cross my mind when I heard about this bombing. :(

Seems like PTB are staying on top of distractions and false flags as usual. Nothing really shocking about that... :mad:
 
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The suggestion that he is an 'anti-Muslim, right-wing christian' put a totally different spin on it.
 
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Oslo Police Conducted Bombing Exercise Days Before Terrorist Blast
July 22, 2011
Source: Wire Reports

In yet another example of how almost every major terror event is accompanied by a security drill focused around the same scenario, Oslo police were conducting a bombing exercise at a location near the Oslo Opera House just 48 hours before a terrorist blast hit a government building in the Norwegian capital.

According to the translated version of an Aftenposten report, “Anti-terror police fired explosive charges at a training center in Oslo, two hundred meters from the Opera, but forgot to notify the public.”

I read the original article about it, its quite short and seems to indicate that it was a smaller local drill. Would not be surprised if its unrelated.
edit: video; http://www.blacklistednews.com/Oslo_Police_Conducted_Bombing_Exercise_Days_Before_Terrorist_Blast/14847/0/38/38/Y/M.html
 
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Perceval said:
The suggestion that he is an 'anti-Muslim, right-wing christian' put a totally different spin on it.

http://www.peeep.us/35978dbb said:
Norway: Mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik is anti-racist , pro-homosexual and pro-Israel

Some comments about the ideological background of the Oslo bomber and Utoya shooter

Anders Behring Breivik

Norwegian sources have identified the man who dressed up as a policeman shot perhaps as many as 80 or more innocent young people on the island of Utoya [Utøya] as the 32 years old Anders Behring Breivik . He is also alleged to stand behind the bomb in Oslo, which so far killed seven people,

The perpetrator was a regular poster on several Norwegian Internet media, notably the blog document.no, which is run by Hans Rustad1), a former left wing journalist. Hans Rustad is Jewish, and extremely pro-Zionist, and warns against islamization, violence and other problems connected with Muslim immigration. Many regular contributors on his blog naturally more or less share his views.

They represent an ideology where the importance of ethnicity is played down or dismissed completely, and the need for the preservation of Western cultural and democratic values is commonly used as the substitute key argument against immigration. Their rhetorics and activities are almost completely focused on Islam and Muslims; other immigrant groups such as Vietnamese, Chinese, non Muslim Africans and other groups are routinely painted as 'harmless', or even as 'positive contributors to society'.

This is the currently most popular strain of the anti-immigration movements in Europe, as represented by Geert Wilders' Freedom Party, the Danish People's Party, the Sweden Democrats, and in Germany the so called 'Pro-movement', of which Pro-Cologne (Pro-Köln) is one of the most active, as well as several recently new established parties with a similar ideology . In England the EDL is connected to this ideology, together with groups such as SIOE and its local chapters, The Danish Free Press Society and their magazine Sappho, and some others. Note that the SIOE uses the slogan: 'Racism is the lowest form of stupidity! Islamophobia is the height of common sense'.

This picture was taken on the island of Utøya the previous day

Their American allies are people such as Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Daniel Pipes, etc. The dedication to the Zionist cause, and their rejection of classical nationalist ideas such as the importance of ethnicity, sets them apart from the sincere nationalist parties such ad the British National Party, Front National (France), Jobbik (Hungary), and NPD (Germany - and the only clearly National Socialist inspired movement of those mentioned).

Their heroes are mainly Jews such as German Henryk Broder, the French Zionist Bernard Henry Levy, British Melanie Philips, Bernard Lewis, to mention just a few, and many more. The Flemish Nationalists fall somewhere in between, and are mainly traditional Nationalists with no love for the US, Zionism or Israel, who are trying to adapt to a new pro-Zionist image, inspired by the success of Geert Wilders' Freedom Party in Holland, and the Danish People's Party in Denmark.

Terror victims in Oslo

Members of the pro-Zionist groups and parties often paint their non philosemitic fellow nationalists as Nazis, anti-Semites and racists, copying the rhetorics the left wing PC-brigade uses against themselves, and try to present a more polished image towards the mainstream. They are also much better connected to mainstream politicians than the traditional nationalists, and at times are supported by mainstream newspapers, such as Jyllands-Posten in Denmark, as well as by right wing Jewish groups and individuals. The mainstream press usually judges these groups more favorably then traditional nationalists, who are invariably accused of being 'Nazis'.

Anders Behring Breivik , the Norwegian bomber and gunman also pursued this line of thought:

Posted on 2009-09-14 10:57:20 as a reaction to post by 'Caper'

Caper,

I didn't see that the EDL as it is today is what we would have wanted. But it is essential that the intellectual conservative forces (unofficially) offer political and ideological schooling to our youth between 15 and 25. Who else is to do that?

We cannot despise the young in society and refuse to come closer to them only because they lack ideological training, since it is exactly OUR (culturally conservative intellectuals) responsibility to do so.

Bawer [referring to homosexual anti-islamist Bruce Bawer] is probably not the right person to work as a bridge builder. He is a liberal anti-Jihadist, and in many ways not a culturally conservative. I have my suspicions about him being TOO paranoid [with reference to his homosexuality). It could seem as though he fears that 'cultural conservatives' will become a threat against homosexuals in the future. Therefore he refuses to take his chance to influence them into a positive direction? That seems completely irrational.

It has to be said that many organizations such as VB [probably referring to the Flemish nationalist party Vlaams Belang] needs to go through many 'reforms', before they reach our level.

Anyway, we are not in a position where we can pick and choose our partners. That's why we have to ensure that we influence other culturally conservatives to take our anti-racist pro-homosexual , pro-Israeli line of thought. When this direction has been taken we can take it to the next level.

The consolidation MUST continue, and people must contribute by influencing (in stead of isolating).

The above was translated from this page, where document.no has collected all posts by Anders Behring Breivik . So far it is not possible to read the seperate comments in the original thread; according to an announcement on the website, they changed IT-systems a few days ago, and are working on bringing the comments and the full posts back online. The URL to the article to which this comment belongs is here; maybe it will work later on.

Footnotes:

1 I dislike Mr. Hans Rustad for at least one reason: He does not support freedom of speech when it comes to WWII history and the holocaust.

/This material was removed from the www, this is a cached copy someone made.

edit: relevant photo:
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RedFox said:
I wonder if it was a greenbaum going off early?

I had the same thought today. Lets wait how the story about him further unfolds.


Perceval said:
Of course, knowing who is most likely behind it does nothing to dampen the horrific nature of it, it makes it even worse (if that's even possible). :cry:

Yes, it is always terrible that once again innocent people have to suffer.
 
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I thought that it was somewhat synchronous that I was reading articles on Sott about Norway's attitude toward doing business with Israeli companies and in the background heard the news channel on announcing the bombing and shooting in Oslo. Tell ya' my jaw dropped and certainly had me suspecting that it was a message of no coincidence (based on track records of those psychos).
 
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