Brace Yourselves For War Between Iran and Israel

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Interesting speculations.

"If this sounds like millenarian nonsense that's because it was - the odds of such a maneuver actually succeeding would be, in my professional judgment, approximately zero percent. With that being said, Iran in the '90s was a millenarian revolutionary garrison-state that had just spent a decade fighting Saddam and people in that kind of situation can make some genuinely insane plans."

From wiki:

Millenarianism or millenarism is the belief by a religious, social, or political group or movement in a coming fundamental transformation of society, after which "all things will be changed".

Well, if the shoe fits . . .

 

[ApotheosisMMC.]

From wiki:


Well, if the shoe fits . . .

Fits, as Laura pointed out in The Secret History of the World, Fulcanelli says that the Hendaye Cross (its name, pronounced correctly in French, sounds like "ondai" if translated into Spanish phonetically, which in turn resembles the word onda=wave ) is an example of primitive Chialism-Mineralism, which was surely part of Early Christianity.
In short, all the great Abrahamic monotheistic religions take this event into account in a corrupted way, with prophecies about how to achieve it and what exactly will happen differing mainly in which people will benefit the most.

 

[treesparrow]

Gas refinery in Iran hit today.

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Now that Israel and Iran are fighting, what's happening with the Palestinians? Is Israel accelerating the genocide while the missiles are flying? Or has Iran sufficiently diverted Israel's attention to give Palestinians some relief?

 

[Carl]

I'm just wondering, doesn't Israel lack the man power for empire status? According to Google, the population is just under 10 million... London and New York each have like 1 million less people compared to the whole of Israel.

How does one become an empire with 10 million people?

I guess it's more that Israel would a new centre of the amorphous blob we know as the empire of lies, so populations of all countries involved would be subjugated. Specifically, as per the quote from Yaweh to Zion, they hope Israel to be the spiritual center of the world, or at least all of the world which is under the dominion of the empire. The "golden billion" can be the favoured slaves. We actually kind of have that already, but maybe they hope for something much more overt?

I'm not sure that they're interested in religiously converting anyone though. Judaism, representing the STS spiritual pathway, would be reserved for the 'elect', while the masses would be fed a diet of materialism and nihilism. Come to think of it, we already have that too!

The main issue is the populations of Europe and North America have a very low and rapidly declining view of Israel, it's people and everything it represents. What kind of crisis would it take to turn that around? It took WWII to previously move the centre of empire from London to Washington.

 

[WhiteMountain]

Now that Israel and Iran are fighting, what's happening with the Palestinians? Is Israel accelerating the genocide while the missiles are flying? Or has Iran sufficiently diverted Israel's attention to give Palestinians some relief?

I just saw an alert they killed another 40 or so in Gaza...so Israel does not bother stopping its ethnic cleansing operation in Palestine.

 

[Joe]

Now that Israel and Iran are fighting, what's happening with the Palestinians? Is Israel accelerating the genocide while the missiles are flying? Or has Iran sufficiently diverted Israel's attention to give Palestinians some relief?

Yesterday

Fifteen killed by Israeli fire near Gaza aid site, hospitals say

Information on the latest incident is scarce as the internet has been down in Gaza for more than two days.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Natus Videre]

I just saw an alert they killed another 40 or so in Gaza...so Israel does not bother stopping its ethnic cleansing operation in Palestine.

Yikes, I wouldn't be surprised if Israel said: "we protected Gaza from Iranian missiles."

 

[Bastian]

I'm just wondering, doesn't Israel lack the man power for empire status?
According to Google, the population is just under 10 million... London and New York each have like 1 million less people compared to the whole of Israel.

How does one become an empire with 10 million people?

Well, there are historical examples of that !

For instance, at the beginning of 13th century, Mongolian tribes were about 100k to 1M people.
The Golden Horde (including conquered people) was about 8,5M in 1264, and 7M in 1310.
They conquered an empire from the sea of Japan to Eastern Europe, about 24-33M of square kilometers !
On this empire, they ruled over 110-120M of people.
So let's say a factor of 100 (to 1000 !)

Other example : the British Empire.
In 1922, it ruled over 400-460M (or even 540M) people.
Then there were in the British islands (including Scotland and Ireland) about 40-45M people.
So let's say a factor of 10.

And I suspect that with technology and mind control (religion, mass medias, movie/music/porn industry, etc.), a factor of 100 or more is possible. It's sufficient to be powerful, brutal, cunning and soul-less, to conquer and rule over a greater number of people.

So, from this PoV, it's not theoretically impossible for them to conquer and rule over Iran or the whole Middle-East.

What's more, it's not the genocidal state in the Levant alone. There is the diaspora all over Europe, the USA, Russia, etc.
Even in small key countries, such as Panama.

 

[thorbiorn]

Comments from Iran​

True Promise III: Iran launches a fresh wave of missile, drone strikes on Zionist entity

Saturday, 14 June 2025 8:18 PM [Last Update: Saturday, 14 June 2025 9:32 PM]
Where there was:
[...]
An informed source was quoted as saying by Fars News Agency that Iran used Emad, Qadr, and Kheibar Shekan missiles in the latest attack on Haifa and Tel Aviv.

This retaliatory operation followed an Israeli aggression on Iran that took place in the wee hours of Friday morning and resulted in the assassinations of high-ranking Iranian military commanders, nuclear scientists, and civilians, including children and women.

Among those martyred were Major General Mohammad Bagheri, Chief of Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces; IRGC Commander-in-Chief Hossein Salami; Brigadier General Amir Ali Hajizadeh, head of the IRGC Aerospace Division; and senior IRGC commander General Gholam Ali Rashid.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1933987054981185868

Nuclear scientists Dr. Fereydoon Abbasi, Dr. Mohammad Mehdi Tehranchi, and Dr. Abdolhamid Minoucher were also martyred in separate attacks.

Iranian Army says it shot down another F-35 fighter jet belonging to Israeli regime

Saturday, 14 June 2025 1:18 PM [Last Update: Saturday, 14 June 2025 4:00 PM ]
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The Iranian Army’s Public Relations Office said in a statement on Saturday that its air defense forces had successfully struck and destroyed another F-35 fighter jet belonging to the Israeli regime over the western part of the country.
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This comes a day after Iran’s air defense forces successfully brought down two F-35 fighter jets along with multiple drones belonging to the Israeli regime.

The regime deployed these advanced aircraft in its early Friday morning aggression against the Islamic Republic, which resulted in the assassination of several high-ranking Iranian military commanders, nuclear scientists, and civilians, including women and children.

US gave Israel 100s of laser-guided missiles knowing they would be used against Iran: Report

Saturday, 14 June 2025 2:35 AM [Last Update: Saturday, 14 June 2025 2:35 AM]

The United States quietly delivered hundreds of advanced laser-guided missiles to the Israeli regime, knowing that the projectiles would be used by it towards attacking Iran.

The Middle East Eye (MEE) news and analysis website carried the report on Saturday, identifying its sources as US officials, and naming the projectiles in question as air-to-surface Hellfire missiles.

“There is a time and place for Hellfires. They were useful to Israel [as it was seeking to strike the Islamic Republic],” a senior American military official told the website.

The US also provided the regime with the missiles, knowing that their features specifically armed Tel Aviv for surgical strikes, it added.

Also on Friday, the US president, himself, confirmed in remarks to Reuters that he and his team knew the attacks were coming. "We knew everything,” Donald Trump said.

Observers, meanwhile, note that reports of Washington’s unstinting arms support -- aimed at further equipping the regime to better target the Islamic Republic -- have emerged, despite the United States being engaged in indirect talks with Iran, ostensibly to give diplomacy a chance.

The MEE further reported that the Trump administration had prior knowledge of the plan for “months.”

The Israeli aggression, targeting various cities across Iran, including the capital, Tehran, included a series of precision attacks aimed at assassinations, which led to the martyrdom of Major General Hossein Salami, the former commander-in-chief of the IRGC.

Perhaps some in the US think they can take Iran out like Iraq?

Houthi blasts Israeli strikes on Iran as criminal, voices support for retaliation
Saturday, 14 June 2025 7:18 PM [ Last Update: Saturday, 14 June 2025 7:18 PM ]
When I read that, I wondered if the talk had been written by Iran itself. Maybe, but the Houthis have also shown strength of minds.

Western powers support ‘21st century Hitler’ against peaceful Iranians: Venezuela’s Maduro

Saturday, 14 June 2025 7:45 AM [Last Update: Saturday, 14 June 2025 7:45 AM]
Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro condemned the Israeli aggressions on Iran slamming France, Germany, Britain, and the US, for supporting “21st century Hitler,” referring to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, against noble, peaceful Iranians.

“We say no to war and declare our full solidarity with the peoples of Iran, Palestine, Yemen, Syria, and Lebanon, and with all Islamic and Arab peoples,” he said in a statement on Saturday.

Maduro described the Israeli attack on Iran as a “criminal assault on the people of Iran that violates international law and the United Nations Charter, and threatens the Middle East with a dangerous escalation whose consequences are unknown.”

He said that Israel was “created to invade the Middle East and Central Asia, to seize their resources, and colonize their peoples.”

“No to war, no to fascism, no to neo-Nazi Zionism,” he concluded.
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Profiles: Prominent Iranian nuclear scientists assassinated in latest Israeli aggression

Saturday, 14 June 2025 3:10 PM [ Last Update: Saturday, 14 June 2025 4:01 PM ]
By Maryam Qarehgozlou

In the early hours of Friday, at least nine prominent Iranian nuclear scientists were tragically killed in a brutal terrorist attack orchestrated by the Israeli regime on their homes, which also resulted in the deaths of numerous civilians.

Among the victims were Mohammad Mehdi Tehranchi and Fereydoun Abbasi, who media outlets described as significant figures in the advancement of Iran’s nuclear program.

Tehranchi, a theoretical physicist, was the president of Iran’s Islamic Azad University of Iran and also served as Vice President for Research and Technology at Shahid Beheshti University for over a decade.

Abbasi, a former head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran and ex-member of the Iranian parliament, held a PhD in nuclear physics and conducted research for the defense ministry.

He narrowly escaped an Israeli assassination attempt in Tehran in 2010, in which his colleague, nuclear scientist Majid Shahriari, was killed.

Other notable scientists who perished in the tragic Israeli assaults were Abdolhamid Minouchehr, Ahmad Reza Zolfaghari, Amir Hossein Faghihi, Motallebzadeh, Ali Karimi, Mansour Asgari, and Saeed Borji.
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This last article continues with a description of the most prominent:

Iran has been weakened by the losses of prominent figures over the last many years. By contrast the "Zionist entity", and its aligned sub-entities in arms have lost hardly any, so far.

 

[Possibility of Being]

Latest from Fars News Agency:

The head of the Shin Bet (Israel's internal security agency) has officially resigned.

Iranian Hypersonic Lightning Speed
(video) After the missile hits, the power is cut off immediately.

In tonight's Iranian missile attacks, Haifa refineries were targeted, causing large fires and secondary explosions.

An informed source in the Ministry of Defense: Following tonight's Israeli attacks on Tehran, one of the Ministry of Defense's administrative buildings and one of its research centers were hit by a projectile.

(just now)
Al-Mayadeen: Iran is targeting Israel with missiles and drones
Terrible explosions shook Tel Aviv.

 

[Mari]

Iranian Navy intercepts British destroyer in Indian Ocean assisting Israeli missile targeting: IRNA

Destroyer detected by Iranian intelligence systems Friday night, warned before it could advance toward Persian Gulf, says state news agency - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

Iranian Navy intercepts British destroyer in Indian Ocean assisting Israeli missile targeting: IRNA​

Destroyer detected by Iranian intelligence systems Friday night, warned before it could advance toward Persian Gulf, says state news agency​

Rania Abu Shamala |14.06.2025 - Update : 14.06.2025

The Iranian Navy intercepted a British destroyer in the northern Indian Ocean meant to help guide Israeli missiles toward Iranian territory, state news agency IRNA reported Saturday.

According to a statement from the public relations office of the First Naval Zone, the destroyer was detected by Iranian intelligence systems Friday night and warned by combat drones before it could advance toward the Persian Gulf.

The vessel is said to have been forced to change course after being tracked in the Sea of Oman.

Israel launched a series of strikes against Iranian territory, targeting nuclear and missile facilities early Friday, killing senior military figures and scientists.

The wave of attacks has continued and resulted in the deaths of at least 78 people with 320 others injured, according to figures earlier announced by Iran's UN envoy. Iran also launched retaliatory strikes.

 

[Mari]

Also

US helps Israel shoot down barrage of Iranian missiles

American air defense systems and a Navy destroyer have helped Israel shoot down incoming ballistic missiles from Iran. That's according to U.S. officials.

apnews.com

US helps Israel shoot down barrage of Iranian missiles​

Updated 12:48 AM CEST, June 14, 2025

WASHINGTON (AP) — American air defense systems and a Navy destroyer helped Israel shoot down incoming ballistic missiles Friday that Tehran launched in response to Israeli strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities and top military leaders, U.S. officials said.

The U.S. has both ground-based Patriot missile defense systems and Terminal High Altitude Air Defense systems in the Middle East capable of intercepting ballistic missiles, which Iran fired in multiple barrages in retaliation for Israel’s initial attack.

A Navy destroyer in the eastern Mediterranean Sea also shot down Iranian missiles heading toward Israel, one official said.

The United States also is shifting military resources, including ships, in the Middle East in response to the strikes.

The Navy directed the destroyer USS Thomas Hudner, which is capable of defending against ballistic missiles, to begin sailing from the western Mediterranean Sea toward the eastern Mediterranean and has directed a second destroyer to begin moving forward so it can be available if requested by the White House, U.S. officials said.

American fighter jets also are patrolling the sky in the Middle East to protect personnel and installations, and air bases in the region are taking additional security precautions, the officials said.

 

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This might be useful as to what's going on [4:33:03] -

HUGE IRANIAN RESPONSE: HUNDREDS OF MISSILES DESTROY BASES & BUILDINGS ALL ACROSS ISRAEL | LIVE

 

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Report on ZeroHedge:

Summary/developments:

• Missile sirens sound across north as IDF says new barrage launched from Iran
• More than 60 Israelis wounded in barrages
• Israelis rush back into shelters in the north
• Senior Iranian official threatens that Iran will target countries that try to defend Israel
• Iran says Israel has killed 78 people, including senior military officials, and wounded more than 320 people in Iran,
• AJ: Trump stays out of ‘public eye’ as Israel-Iran conflict escalates
• Air-defenses seen active once again Friday late night over the Iranian capital of Tehran
• Israeli says it completely destroyed Tabriz military base in Iran
• Next Israeli attack: potential targets are likely economic, including oil and gas infrastructure which resources the IRGC, and political and leadership targets.
• FOX: The U.S. Army is assisting in shooting down incoming Iranian missiles with Patriot Pac-3 missiles and with Thaad
• Israel completely evacuates Ben Gurion International Airport — including civilian aircrafts
• US confirms: American equipment and assets used in defending Israel against Iran strikes
• International media widely confirms several major strikes on Israeli cities
• At least seven Israelis injured, some in serious condition
• AJ: Israeli attacks could push Iran to pursue nuclear weapon
• Iran closes airspace until tomorrow afternoon
• Iran says the missiles are the ‘beginning’ of its ‘crushing response’
• Trump warns Iran to agree to a deal ‘before there is nothing left’
• Axios reports that the Trump admin briefed lawmakers before Israeli strikes began
• There is radiological and chemical contamination at Natanz: IAEA's Grossi to UN Security Council
• "Israel destroyed the above-ground part of the Natanz nuclear facility. There are no indications of damage to the underground enrichment facilities at the site, but the power outage may have affected the centrifuges. There is radioactive and chemical contamination at the site," Grossi said.

Update(1425ET): A reported hundreds of Iranian missiles were launched on Israel. Some appear to have landed, though Israel's robust air defense system is active, and likely busy intercepting. Times of Israel writes in an update:

Sirens are sounding across Israel amid a major Iranian ballistic missile attack.

An estimated 100 missiles were launched from Iran at Israel, according to an Israeli military source

Al Jazeera is reporting based on eyewitnesses that Israelis have been instructed to take shelter in safe rooms. At least 100 ballistic missiles are inbound. Israel has confirmed there are casualties. Major impacts observed:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1933604856591249481

Tehran vows sustained attacks:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1933606100433318013

All out war emerging, via Al Jazeera latest developments:

• Explosions in Tel Aviv as sirens sound across Israel amid reported Iranian missile attacks in response to Israeli strikes.
• The Israeli military continues to launch waves of strikes against Iranian military and nuclear sites, as well as major cities.
• US President Donald Trump says it’s not too late for Tehran to halt the bombing campaign by reaching a deal on its nuclear programme.
• Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has warned Israel that it “must expect severe punishment” following the “crime” of attacking Iran and killing several top-level military commanders and six nuclear scientists.
• Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says the military operation will continue as long as necessary.
• United States Secretary of State Marco Rubio says the US is “not involved” in the strikes and warns Iran against attacking American bases in the region.

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Update(1330ET): There are reports that Israeli strikes on Iran have continued through Friday, with the WSJ reporting that up to two weeks of attacks could be coming.

Israel is bracing for potential big counterattack, and yet clearly Iran is struggling to even get its air defenses active in thwarting the Israeli airstrikes. Still, air defenses appear very active over the capital on Friday.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1933568249037287471

According to more:

• ISRAEL SAYS AIR FORCE CONTINUES TO ATTACK IRAN: REUTERS
• IRAN WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN NUCLEAR NEGOTIATIONS WITH US SCHEDULED FOR SUNDAY: IRAN STATE TV
• TRUMP SAYS NOT SURE US-IRAN MEETING WILL TAKE PLACE: REUTERS

Trump to WSJ on the impact on markets:

"I think ultimately, it would be great for the market because Iran will not have a nuclear weapon. ... Iran won't have a nuclear weapon that was a great threat to humanity."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1933328284852629724

Trump was "pretending"...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1933499565124035003