2009 Crop Circles

[MichaelM]

A couple of days ago, after going through the latest Cass transcript thread (http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=12737.msg91273#msg91273)
I was wondering why no one picked up on the following part of the transcript:

Q: (laughter) (L) Well then why were you so enthusiastic when Craig proposed teaching us? I mean, he asked if he should teach us, and you said yes with seven exclamation points!

A: Got you to do it and jump started your thinking didn't we?!

Q: (L) So the point wasn't that this method was "the best" or the only one or so great. It was to draw our attention to the idea of breathing, or control of breath, as a means of effecting emotional healing. Is that it?

A: Absolutely!X7

Q: (laughter) (L) Shorthand. Um...

A: Remember that your method employed a powerful "seed".

Laura's "shorthand" comment (I'm assuming that it was pertaining to X7 in the C's response) stood out for me but I could find anything else to follow through on that so I left the idea in the back burner.
I did try to read up all that the google search engine could cough up on shorthand, which were mostly wikipedia entries and references.
What I did find about shorthand is that it probably will take a lot of reading and practice to read shorthand starting from zero shorthand reading skills. :P
Incidentally, the wikipedia image for the shorthand page (_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorthand)

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Eclectic_shorthand_by_cross.png
(I tried hot-linking the image but I think the format *.png can't be displayed?)

is titled "The Lord's Prayer in Gregg and a variety of 19th-century systems". And the Cass transcript was discussing Laura's modified version of the Lord's prayer!


Anyhow, getting back on track...
Now while I was going through this thread on crop circles and reading up on the pages I haven't read in a couple of days, after I read the post by Vulcan, something "clicked".

According to the cc website comments section for this crop circle, some of the symbols are from the Mayan Calender.

Added later:-

I also tried looking for the symbols in the book below and although some of the symbols did match, most did not have any similarities at all, OSIT.

To me, the image that Vulcan59 linked to kinda reminded me of shorthand and I was thinking that maybe the alchemical symbols can be read using "shorthand rules" (I'm aware that there are several popular shorthand systems/rules), and by extension, the crop circles can be interpreted using some sort of shorthand rules?
I admit that this is mostly conjecture on my part because, apart from "googling shorthand" and reading up wikipedia entries, I know zilch about shorthand. Is anybody familiar with how to read and write shorthand and can let me know if I'm on to something here?

Also, there is the possibility that Laura's shorthand comment was ignored by the C's because X7 was probably just noise. But then again, only Laura and the regulars at the sessions could say for sure if that part I highlighted from the session was merely noise...

 

[vinny]

A couple of days ago, after going through the latest Cass transcript thread (http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=12737.msg91273#msg91273)
I was wondering why no one picked up on the following part of the transcript:

Q: (laughter) (L) Well then why were you so enthusiastic when Craig proposed teaching us? I mean, he asked if he should teach us, and you said yes with seven exclamation points!

A: Got you to do it and jump started your thinking didn't we?!

Q: (L) So the point wasn't that this method was "the best" or the only one or so great. It was to draw our attention to the idea of breathing, or control of breath, as a means of effecting emotional healing. Is that it?

A: Absolutely!X7

Q: (laughter) (L) Shorthand. Um...

A: Remember that your method employed a powerful "seed".

Laura's "shorthand" comment (I'm assuming that it was pertaining to X7 in the C's response) stood out for me but I could find anything else to follow through on that so I left the idea in the back burner.

[...]

To me, the image that Vulcan59 linked to kinda reminded me of shorthand and I was thinking that maybe the alchemical symbols can be read using "shorthand rules" (I'm aware that there are several popular shorthand systems/rules), and by extension, the crop circles can be interpreted using some sort of shorthand rules?
I admit that this is mostly conjecture on my part because, apart from "googling shorthand" and reading up wikipedia entries, I know zilch about shorthand. Is anybody familiar with how to read and write shorthand and can let me know if I'm on to something here?

Also, there is the possibility that Laura's shorthand comment was ignored by the C's because X7 was probably just noise. But then again, only Laura and the regulars at the sessions could say for sure if that part I highlighted from the session was merely noise...

My interpretation was that it just meant 7 exclamation points, and they were having a bit of a laugh about it. I didn't read any further into it. But perhaps there is some relevance as a 'clue' to shorthand symbols, maybe linking to the crop circles (which were obviously on Laura's mind, given the other excerpts she posted in relation to this session) and their role also as a 'seed'? But this is total speculation on my part.

 

[Freelancer]

This one is growing again!!!

Yet another addition!

I have read somewhere that the egg-like shape at the top of the image is actually a Gray's head, ineptly done during the creation of the crop circle (with protruding "antenna" to the right).
That aroused my suspicions about it.
But now that these "UFO symbols" were added, it speaks a lot about its origins, I think.

Or we may now be confronted with a foul play:
Genuine crop circles being messed up by the STS forces trying to convey their "propaganda" through to the susceptible viewers.

 

[Freelancer]

O.k. what do we got so far.

from Csayeursost; At the center of a large target marking...? The "C" told us that the earth will be a center point when the wave arrive, I forgot the right word.

from freelancer;
The hexagon could represent sixth density.
The concentric circles could represent The Wave approaching.


From the script;

(L) What does Hoagland say? (T) He says that basically what we see in this density is a 3rd dimension reflection of 4th dimension and that it can be seen mathematically by looking at the cloud patterns on the different planets. If there was not another dimension above us, circular would be circular and the circular motion of the clouds would be maintained, but if it is a transfer from fourth density to third density, when you are looking at a fourth density object, what the third density version of it would look like would show a hexagonal figure with angles to it, and that the photographs from the Voyager Probe that show that the cloud patterns from the North and South poles of most of the planets are not circular, they are hexagonal.


from me;I see now the spike of a wheel and if you turn the center 1/6 to the left or right you get 3 white triangle and 3 black triangle.

From Vladimir;
Bulleye....

Thou, you are right about hex and the wave, there is some other stuff here. I'm working on it... Keep up with your intelligence and then

Maybe Vladimir will come up whit something else, let wait.

You're right about that session, but there's more to this that I've been referring to.
It's about multidimensional spaces.

Session 941210

Q: (L) What book do we need to cross reference?
A: Any star chart and Marciniak, Arcturas Channel, Orion literature and Us. We speak from
"crest" of wave, now, where are we?
Q: (L) Is this a riddle?
A: From, not of.
Q: (L) You speak from the crest of the wave? (T) Are you riding the wave?
A: Yes.

That covers the crest of the Wave.

Session 980801

Q: (L) Well... (A) What was this answer 'yes' to the changing of density and how it relates to what
Sakharov was working on and how it connects to Kaluza Klein theories?
A: Both.
Q: (L) Well, I guess we are going to have to wait until I type it to make any sense out of it...
A: Geometry... pentagon and hexagon, algebraic equations...
Q: (A) Pentagon and hexagon algebraic equations... (L) What is the connection between the
pentagon and hexagon?
A: Discover.
Q: (A) I physics and mathematics we write a triangle to symbolize certain operations in
three-dimensional space. One draws a square to symbolize wave equations in 4 dimensional space.
One draws a pentagon to symbolize equations in 5th dimensional space, and a hexagon to
symbolize equations in 6 dimensional space.

That session was also VERY related to the hexagonal structures and the Wave. Note Ark's comment - it's very important.
You see, it's my conjecture that the C's actually exist in 6-dimensional space (and are able to perceive it fully).
That is why they drew the hexagon - it symbolizes who and "where" they are.

An interesting point is that in math we use hexagons to denote equations 6-dimensional space, so that would be further approval of the conjecture.
Six dimensional space is unimaginable to us, but it certainly explains why the 6D STO are able to perceive everything as it truly is
in comparison to 4D STS - they have more "points of reference", to begin with.

 

[Vladimir]

O.k. what do we got so far.

from Csayeursost; At the center of a large target marking...? The "C" told us that the earth will be a center point when the wave arrive, I forgot the right word.

from freelancer;
The hexagon could represent sixth density.
The concentric circles could represent The Wave approaching.


From the script;

(L) What does Hoagland say? (T) He says that basically what we see in this density is a 3rd dimension reflection of 4th dimension and that it can be seen mathematically by looking at the cloud patterns on the different planets. If there was not another dimension above us, circular would be circular and the circular motion of the clouds would be maintained, but if it is a transfer from fourth density to third density, when you are looking at a fourth density object, what the third density version of it would look like would show a hexagonal figure with angles to it, and that the photographs from the Voyager Probe that show that the cloud patterns from the North and South poles of most of the planets are not circular, they are hexagonal.


from me;I see now the spike of a wheel and if you turn the center 1/6 to the left or right you get 3 white triangle and 3 black triangle.

From Vladimir;
Bulleye....

Thou, you are right about hex and the wave, there is some other stuff here. I'm working on it... Keep up with your intelligence and then

Maybe Vladimir will come up whit something else, let wait.

You're right about that session, but there's more to this that I've been referring to.
It's about multidimensional spaces.

Session 941210

Q: (L) What book do we need to cross reference?
A: Any star chart and Marciniak, Arcturas Channel, Orion literature and Us. We speak from
"crest" of wave, now, where are we?
Q: (L) Is this a riddle?
A: From, not of.
Q: (L) You speak from the crest of the wave? (T) Are you riding the wave?
A: Yes.

That covers the crest of the Wave.

Session 980801

Q: (L) Well... (A) What was this answer 'yes' to the changing of density and how it relates to what
Sakharov was working on and how it connects to Kaluza Klein theories?
A: Both.
Q: (L) Well, I guess we are going to have to wait until I type it to make any sense out of it...
A: Geometry... pentagon and hexagon, algebraic equations...
Q: (A) Pentagon and hexagon algebraic equations... (L) What is the connection between the
pentagon and hexagon?
A: Discover.
Q: (A) I physics and mathematics we write a triangle to symbolize certain operations in
three-dimensional space. One draws a square to symbolize wave equations in 4 dimensional space.
One draws a pentagon to symbolize equations in 5th dimensional space, and a hexagon to
symbolize equations in 6 dimensional space.

That session was also VERY related to the hexagonal structures and the Wave. Note Ark's comment - it's very important.
You see, it's my conjecture that the C's actually exist in 6-dimensional space (and are able to perceive it fully).
That is why they drew the hexagon - it symbolizes who and "where" they are.

An interesting point is that in math we use hexagons to denote equations 6-dimensional space, so that would be further approval of the conjecture.
Six dimensional space is unimaginable to us, but it certainly explains why the 6D STO are able to perceive everything as it truly is
in comparison to 4D STS - they have more "points of reference", to begin with.

Thnx Laurentien on patience, patience is one of 7 Divine Virtues. Since you showed it, I decided to give you a feedback to support your virtue and satisfy my Jupiter in 1st House, to interpret it as "joy of my Sun, my ego" (btw, this is not easy as it might seems, when you get known with egoism). I'm working 24/7 (minus basic needs) on my model, in short, I'm making Cosmological concept that unifies every Cosmological concept that I came across during my lifetime. C's are magnificent help, specially for giving clues for contemplation, they, as you know, didn't gave information just to the people sitting in front of board, they gave a lot information to everybody who know how to use them properly (like Freelancer, Ark, and others) Still there are some key conceptions,understandings, missing to unlock questions like, if I can express my self using allegory from Adam's "Hitchhikers guide", What is "Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything"? I will never say that I have answer or something, but I have "The Idea", and this "Idea" will be enough to give necessary "shock" to those who are "riding" the same octave, the same reality as I do. Since my academic background(I'm still a student) is psychotherapy, I will make it to be understandably "simple" to everybody who is willing to put effort in understanding the "Doctrine of Simplicity" or to say it simply - in "Doctrine of Numbers".

Also, I'm finding "Eiri Eolas" therm that I would like to use as name my paper, institute and centar that I'm currently planing to do, and music - art festivals and
concerts that I'm doing or will do...Still I'm contemplating is this the right therm, then I will ask Laura or Ark if I can freely use it...

Now, out of my words, you can conclude that either I'm doing something nice or I have psychopathic narcissistic disorder of some kind and just like to speak too much in front of my computer under the false name to show my "mental masturbation", to satisfy my narcissism, well you have enough material to practice discernment, so I do not wish interfere with your Will - of course as Gurdjieff would said - if you have one.

I believe that my work will be done in next three weeks, and know after I satisfied my narcissism, my Jupiter in 1st House, and gifts of my Sun, Moon and Ascendant , I'm going back to work....

:D

 

[ana]

Now, out of my words, you can conclude that either I'm doing something nice or I have psychopathic narcissistic disorder of some kind and just like to speak too much in front of my computer under the false name to show my "mental masturbation", to satisfy my narcissism, well you have enough material to practice discernment, so I do not wish interfere with your Will - of course as Gurdjieff would said - if you have one.

I believe that my work will be done in next three weeks, and know after I satisfied my narcissism, my Jupiter in 1st House, and gifts of my Sun, Moon and Ascendant , I'm going back to work....

:D

Vladimir, reading your post was like listening to a piece of music off-key, in which several musicians are playing different instruments with no account taken of each other

 

[Vladimir]

Now, out of my words, you can conclude that either I'm doing something nice or I have psychopathic narcissistic disorder of some kind and just like to speak too much in front of my computer under the false name to show my "mental masturbation", to satisfy my narcissism, well you have enough material to practice discernment, so I do not wish interfere with your Will - of course as Gurdjieff would said - if you have one.

I believe that my work will be done in next three weeks, and know after I satisfied my narcissism, my Jupiter in 1st House, and gifts of my Sun, Moon and Ascendant , I'm going back to work....

:D

Vladimir, reading your post was like listening to a piece of music off-key, in which several musicians are playing different instruments with no account taken of each other

Your feedback is appreciated as reflection of you are. Just one note, to be precise, there are there musicians inside, and one "Maestro" who is orchestrating, still little bit shy, but sincerely learning to ride The Phoenix...

And our synchronization you can understand from Number of our posts, Number of reply, and Number of Time.
You without intending, gave me "off-key" therm that I was looking for but didn't knew that this is the name for what I'm doing concerning my musical projects... ;D

 

[Laurentien2]

hello Vladimir and freelancer.

First, let read the 11-13-99

session;11-13-99
Q: The first question we have here is from a correspondent who asks: "Have the Cassiopaeans ever mentioned the significance of numbers?" She was particularly interested in the number 666, and I answered that there was already some discussion of this on the website. I also mentioned that there is some good material on the subject that I have not posted yet because I have not gotten to that yet. But, she did ask a couple of questions that we had not covered before, so I wanted to get them in here. She asks about this "magic square of the sun." Does this have any deep symbolic meaning?
A: Mathematics is organized such that one can construct what one wishes.
Q: Are you saying that Professor Eco was correct when he wrote: "With numbers you can do anything you like... I believe the universe is a great symphony of numerical correspondences..." and that the works of man "reproduce in their structures, unconsciously, the harmonies of the cosmos. ...If there is a secret, it is much more profound..." and that those who write about such things remain simply on the surface, "discovering with their incredibly tortuous methods a straightforward truth. ...The true initiate knows that these are metaphors, masks, conventional lies or, at most, pathetic surrogates, for an ancestral forgotten force."
A: Yes.
Q: Okay. Then it's a good thing that it's Greek to both of us! Next, she heard something along this line and asked: "Do crop circles use geometry and gematria to send us messages?
A: Messages? Yes. Geometry and "geometria? If one so desires.[/color]

then from Vladimir;
C's are magnificent help, specially for giving clues for contemplation,

What is "Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything"? I will never say that I have answer or something, but I have "The Idea"

Yes Vladimir by contemplating the "C" experiment, it is natural to come whit idea and I think that, this is exactly their prime objective, they want us to search for answer so we will gain knowledge but, they also told us that to get more answer we need to combine our idea our thought. Searching alone for the Ultimate question, if it can be done, will take eternity, the universe being open, ever expending. But yes, we can come to some understanding by exploring all possibility, all the line.

from Pryf;
Vladimir, reading your post was like listening to a piece of music off-key, in which several musicians are playing different instruments with no account taken of each other

from Vladimir;
Your feedback is appreciated as reflection of you are. Just one note, to be precise, there are there musicians inside, and one "Maestro" who is orchestrating, still little bit shy, but sincerely learning to ride The Phoenix...

Yes we all want to play the "Maestro" in our life, but it has (our EGO) to learn to be part, sometime, of an orchestra as well. Preserving our individuality is normal but accepting to put it in the service of other is (for me) the way. If you want to know more about my thought concerning crop circles please read my post from yesterday, you will find it in the Cassiopaeas experiment section, the title is "the "C" and the crop circles (my thought)", you will do me great honor and I'm certainly interested to read your work when it is finish, it will permit me to know you better.

from Vladimir:
so I do not wish interfere with your Will - of course as Gurdjieff would said - if you have one.

I thing that we all build will when we get knowledge but we need to find the right master otherwise , it get wild.

 

[mamadrama]

Another one: July 1, 2009 - Waden Hill, England, Wheat Formation.

_http://www.silentcircle.co.uk/rpt092.html

 

[Nicholas]

Looks like pairs of snakes emanating from the center.

 

[JEEP]

To me, the image that Vulcan59 linked to kinda reminded me of shorthand and I was thinking that maybe the alchemical symbols can be read using "shorthand rules" (I'm aware that there are several popular shorthand systems/rules), and by extension, the crop circles can be interpreted using some sort of shorthand rules?
I admit that this is mostly conjecture on my part because, apart from "googling shorthand" and reading up wikipedia entries, I know zilch about shorthand. Is anybody familiar with how to read and write shorthand and can let me know if I'm on to something here?

I had the same thought that some of the symbols looked like the shorthand I learned in school ('67-'70). The clerical job I ended up with did not require my use of it, so I have no ingrained memory although I still recall some of the meanings. In looking at the symbols that seemed like shorthand, no translation popped into my head. But again, my expertise wasn't great to begin with, it wasn't really used in my job, it was a really long time ago, and my memory seems to be getting poorer with each passing year! I did have my Gregg shorthand book for a long time, but I think I finally got rid of it (along with my typing books), either in my last move or previous--trying to cut down on the clutter! I wish I could be more helpful, but it's all I got! :(

 

[shijing]

Does anyone see a comet theme developing here (kind of like the solar theme that developed earlier this season)? Someone (I think Anart) already observed that the first image looks like a comet hitting the earth, and this new one looks like one breaking up in the atmosphere....

 

[D69]

I'm seeing some striking similarities between these two. The six 'tentacles' have been replaced with six 'spores'. The tail/stem seems to be very similar. I wonder if it is intended to be sort of a before and after message, in which case it looks like an impact.



p.s. Hope it's ok to use these images. I'm just linking to cropcircleconnector's website.

These to are also very similar. The only difference is top of this weird form but all the rest is very similar and if its about top of the first picture then notice stripes on it.
Maybe it represents some sort of stages of development ? This boiled egg-like circle could represent formation of new part of the whole , like stages in mushroom growth or something similar.

For me this hexagonal CC just recently posted is a representation of balance. Two sets of triangles. If you could try to imagine that every triangle has other one next to it that as a pair creates a filled triangle then it could look like some form of yin-yang , yet totally different and very balanced as well.
And now back to top of the form , you can notice that on every part out of 4 parts has stripes , and it is not balanced as it is in hexagon CC.

moreover , if you take that last one and take 1/7 out of it , it will be similar to the first one again.

And to me it looks like first one but if viewed from the top
Hmm I don't know what to think about it all

 

[Tigersoap]

Another one: July 1, 2009 - Waden Hill, England, Wheat Formation.

_http://www.silentcircle.co.uk/rpt092.html

This CC looks more like a set of spermatozoids going to fertilize everything around them starting from a focal point,a single origin osit.

Looking back at the other CC now I have the same kind of feeling about ovulas, fecondation and the seeding of life but I can't say why exactly, could be me having too much testosterone :P

 

[vinny]

This CC looks more like a set of spermatozoids going to fertilize everything around them starting from a focal point,a single origin osit.

almost like it's a response to this thread, about crop circles being a 'seed' !