Kniall said:O lord, now Sott has it up!!
https://www.sott.net/articles/show/242535-The-Adventures-of-Miviludes
Q: (A) .... Well, my only concern in recent times is the CD Vincent has taken which he has not returned, and what he plans to do with it, considering that there is much personal information there about many people. Is there anything we ought to be aware of or ought to do in regards to that?
A: He will make you famous.
bngenoh said:Shiver me timbers Laura
That is a tantalizing possibility.
Galahad said:“No matter what happens, you must absolutely not fear 2012! The reason is that for the moment no human can really know what is the transition, no human can really know what will happen in 2012 or shortly before. [...] We must not forget that the current epoch of the whole planet is one of fear: fear of losing a job, fear of being sick, fear, fear, multiple fears. [...] It will not be at all as you think! Anyway we cannot tell you because you do not yet have the consciousness necessary to understand what will happen. The only thing that we can tell you is that very soon you will be different. We must give you the means to be different.”117
[This type of word salad, which means less than nothing, makes it so easy for Miviludes... You’d almost think it was planned.]
Laura said:In the Netherlands, messages of the apocalyptic or Millennarist type that are spreading more and more with the approach of December 21, 2012 have prospered with growing intensity, as everywhere else, since 2009 with the American film 2012.
The services of the state admit the absence of an official taking account of this phenomenon. Historically, the sectarian phenomenon has never been encompassed by any regulation.
The local penal code can only surround the deviances that could be linked to them in a marginal way. A very thin jurisprudence testifies to a lack of interest on the part of the public powers. A collary is that neither the police service (KLPD), nor the security service (AVID) have carried out any study whatsoever on the “2012 phenomenon”.
[Can you read between the lines and feel the displeasure in the Dutch lack of concern?]
In the press and on the Internet, certain articles evoke nevertheless the interest in this “apocalypse” and a preparation for the “post 2012” on the part of several thousand Dutch. However, these affirmations should be treated carefully and seem to come more from sensationalistic journalistic research than from an established reality.
Thus, the main articles have as their primary source and report by the journalist Claire Maupas entitled “The End of the World in Four Years”, published in 2008 in the daily De Volkskrant and reprinted in Courrier international. The other source is a feed from United Press International in June 2008 that evokes the phenomenon by citing the previous article.
The scientific Internet sites www.wetenschap.infonu.nl and www.natutech.nl appraoch the question from the angle of the study of the Mayan calendar and contradict the Millennarist theory.
“Blogs” massively refer to the case of Mme Petra Faile, an inhabitant of Haarlem, who was cited in the article of Claire Maupas. Researching Internet “links” demonstrate that only a few people are interested in the question.
Finally, the single sectarian movement that integrates a form of apocalypse in their doctrine is the Jehovah’s Witnesses who have about 31,000 faithful in the Netherlands in 2010. However, they do not call for any action to be undertaken now and don’t refer to the deadline.
In conclusion, even if incidents or troubles against public order are always possible, they will happen more so on an individual level than collective according to the local authorities consulted.
Mariama said:The ministry of security and justice have now set up a website where people can rat on others, suspected of what they call cult-like behaviour.
The site mentions three categories of cults: religion, education and therapies. Take your pick.
_http://www.sektesignaal.nl/
You can even get help from a counsellor or coach!
Sickening this is and part of our culture, which makes it all the more disgusting.
Nienna Eluch said:Mariama said:The ministry of security and justice have now set up a website where people can rat on others, suspected of what they call cult-like behaviour.
The site mentions three categories of cults: religion, education and therapies. Take your pick.
_http://www.sektesignaal.nl/
You can even get help from a counsellor or coach!
Sickening this is and part of our culture, which makes it all the more disgusting.
Yep, little by little people the world over are being programmed to point out those who do not follow the "party line" in whatever category that may be.
And you still have people who say if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about. They never imagine that a neighbor may lie to authorities to get revenge on some small slight that may happen to them. The fact that no proof is needed in a lot of these cases makes it moot if you are actually guilty or not.
voyageur said:Nienna Eluch said:Mariama said:The ministry of security and justice have now set up a website where people can rat on others, suspected of what they call cult-like behaviour.
The site mentions three categories of cults: religion, education and therapies. Take your pick.
_http://www.sektesignaal.nl/
You can even get help from a counsellor or coach!
Sickening this is and part of our culture, which makes it all the more disgusting.
Yep, little by little people the world over are being programmed to point out those who do not follow the "party line" in whatever category that may be.
And you still have people who say if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about. They never imagine that a neighbor may lie to authorities to get revenge on some small slight that may happen to them. The fact that no proof is needed in a lot of these cases makes it moot if you are actually guilty or not.
Exactly, like the Gestapo network, thinking it was massive, when the data was really coming in from neighbors, acquaintances, even spouses. In the Ukraine and elsewhere during ideological indoctrinations, even the children world give up their parents for having two cows, or three pigs etc, when only one was allowed.