2024 US election: A Kennedy presidency? Trump again? Will it be rigged?

Esote said:
It's not what was meant, but if paying attention on this forum would mean that everybody should have the same way of looking at reality then that would be some kind of a one way thinking pattern that I disagree with.

Only that I don't follow the pro-Trump tendency here dispatched. I agree that it might be a better choice than Harris, but the whole show appears to me to be quite too much of a terrible kind of joke, as somehow for the general situation on Earth in these times of great changes and even since a very long time ago.
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Jefferson said:
You've been on this Forum since 2011 and I'd think you would know that there is not a "one way thinking pattern" here. What you might be noticing, however, is how a colinear group making efforts towards objective reality, for a very long time, is starting to see the unseen and beginning to have similar observations. I see this as a positive result of networking. This "pro-Trump tendency" you mentioned would have to be defined more precisely before anybody can really comment on it.

You may consider opening a thread in the Swamp to address your concerns.
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Esote, I think you're right but you could put this in other words. I understand your objections, I`m from Poland and I saw info that people from Trump camp said that they would like to end matters on Ukraine by Polish hand. Trump said that situation between Russia and Ukraine is made mainly by USA, so what they want to Polish people to work to clear Americans matters? We will wait and see and a lot of people think here this way: wait and see. We are just happy to see right now potentially crack in PTB wall :-)
 
dredger said:
Or if you read this recent article from Caitlin Johnsone , she has good args
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JEEP said:
Yes, I saw something previously (before election) of Pompeo being a part of the Trump administration (defense/Pentagon?) and I couldn't believe it!
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Read the CJ article and yes, it's more than concerning that Pompeo apparently is going to be a key player in the new administration!

Trump closed out his campaign tour alongside his former CIA director and secretary of state Mike Pompeo, which should be enough to dash the hopes of even the most naive Trump supporters that US foreign policy is headed in a positive direction in January. As CIA director, Pompeo led a plot to assassinate Julian Assange and cheerfully admitted that “we lied, we cheated, we stole” at the agency. This odious swamp creature has remained in Trump’s good graces for the last eight years, and is reportedly expected to have a position in Trump’s cabinet once again.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1853642954147025139
Abandon hope that any positive changes will come from this election result.

Abandon hope that Trump will do good things.

Abandon hope that Democrats will learn any lessons from this loss.

Abandon hope that liberals will suddenly remember that genocide is bad and start protesting against the US-backed slaughter in Gaza.

Abandon hope in US election results, period.

US elections do not yield positive results. They are not designed to benefit ordinary human beings.

Nothing changes for those of us who are dedicated to fighting against the abuses of the US empire. It will be the same fight after January 20 as it was on January 19. We fight on. -- Caitlin Johnstone
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If Pompeo is indeed going to be a fixture in the Trump administration - plus any other known swamp creatures - then Caitlain's declarations sadly tilt toward truth.

Can we in any way block any part of what the Pompeo nexus (he's hardly a lone wolf) has in store for our future other than prayer alone? Maybe the Cs can provide some additional direction. 🙏
 
I hope the rumors around Pompeo are not true but I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump would be so naive/stupid to trust him again. I think Trump has a huge blind spot in naively trusting people who say good things about him. Not so long ago I
heard Trump pretty favorably talking about Pompeo and was surprised of how he ended up there. I also noticed during the election campaign that he quickly started to defend Kamala and Biden as soon as they said some nice things about him. He visibly couldn’t justify to talk bad about them shortly after that. I think he is VERY vulnerable against manipulative tactics of psychopaths.
 
After a few days since the elections, both my parents are sad and concerned that Trump won. They see it as the end of the US by a deranged convicted felon mad man. But they do like some of RFK J health polices.

As for me, I do hope that trump does help reset the system as we cannot continue on this path we are on. Yes, it will mean a lot of people will have to be unbrainwashed and some won't ever come to terms even if the real truth comes out. I'll be watching to see what happens from next year onwards. PS, we don't live in the US, but in Aus.
 
Abats said:
Looking at what's happening, I wonder if it wasn't a good thing in the end that Trump didn't win in 2020. Because he wouldn't have been able to “rebuild” himself learn too over time and see more of the reality he'd gotten carried away with. Now he seems better armed, prepared, and perhaps also better surrounded to work. Even if the plans of the deep state will still constrain him and surely all of us. I don't know, but there's one thing that seems quite beneficial in retrospect, despite all the horrors that have unfolded over the last 4 years.
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Yeah, that's one angle. The other angle is that they had to get rid of him in 2020 to successfully push through the Ukraine war and probably the Gaza situation. Trump might not have been cooperative on those fronts if he had been POTUS.
 
Joe said:
The other angle is that they had to get rid of him in 2020 to successfully push through the Ukraine war and probably the Gaza situation. Trump might not have been cooperative on those fronts if he had been POTUS.
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From the Caitlin Johnstone article:
Donald Trump is still bought and owned by Adelson cash, which means we can expect him to be just as much of a groveling simp for Israel as he was during his first term. The president elect has publicly admitted that when he was president the Zionist plutocrats Sheldon and Miriam Adelson were at the White House “probably almost more than anybody” asking him to do favors for Israel like moving the US embassy to Jerusalem and acknowledging Israel’s illegitimate claim to the Golan Heights, which he eagerly did.
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Miriam Adelson gave Trump a $100 million campaign donation. Can we honestly believe Trump would have pushed back against Israel regarding Gaza during a 2020 election term? Would he have been JFK'd if he did? How about now?
 
I guess I'm also seeing rain on the parade. The far left globalist faction of the blob just got beaten down by the centrist nationalist faction of the blob, but its all still a blob. The reality is that big powerful entities rule in 3D and maybe expecting anything else to occur aside from marginal changes is wishful thinking.


So, Donald Trump is President-Elect. Again. His female opponent refused to appear to talk to her supporters and waited almost a day to give a concession speech. Again. Democrats are rending their garments wondering what happened. Again. MAGAheads are thirstily slurping up salty liberal tears. Again.

We’re going to Make America Great Again. Again.

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The fact of the matter is Trump was either allowed to win, or made to win, and either way, it’s just further evidence he’s yet another compromised puppet.

The reality is just that simple.

The 2024 election was a contrived event putting a puppet into office to serve a Deep State agenda. Just like 2020 or 2012 or 2000 or…all of them really, back to at least 1964.

The real winner of the election is The Deep State. There was never anyone else on the ballot.

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Don’t buy the hype, 2024 is no 2016

This isn’t 2016. And Harris isn’t Clinton, and Trump isn’t even the same Trump. Then at least there was some wild card elements to his game, now we know who he is. 2016 at least h…
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JEEP said:
Miriam Adelson gave Trump a $100 million campaign donation. Can we honestly believe Trump would have pushed back against Israel regarding Gaza during a 2020 election term? Would he have been JFK'd if he did? How about now?
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dennis said:
I guess I'm also seeing rain on the parade. The far left globalist faction of the blob just got beaten down by the centrist nationalist faction of the blob, but its all still a blob. The reality is that big powerful entities rule in 3D and maybe expecting anything else to occur aside from marginal changes is wishful thinking.
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Hmm - remember an early session in I believe 2021 where it was queried if Trump would fight back against the stolen election fraud and the Cs said he'd have to be bold or something like that?

Will he be bold now just as JFK was bold in pushing back against the political system that had actually ensured his election! JFK was going to smash the CIA into a million pieces, he had already enacted Executive Order 1110 -
JFK signed Executive order 1110 on June 1963 directing the Treasury to issue a new US currency backed by silver, in effect by-passing and isolating the Fed.
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- and he was acting against Israel having nuclear weapon capability and considering exposing alien presence on the planet! Sooo many reasons to take him out!

It would seem Trump is facing the exact same challenges and so much more! Does he have the right stuff and will he dare to be bold this time around?

Again, his belief that God saved his life could make the difference over 2021.
 
Cosmos said:
I hope the rumors around Pompeo are not true but I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump would be so naive/stupid to trust him again. I think Trump has a huge blind spot in naively trusting people who say good things about him. Not so long ago I
heard Trump pretty favorably talking about Pompeo and was surprised of how he ended up there. I also noticed during the election campaign that he quickly started to defend Kamala and Biden as soon as they said some nice things about him. He visibly couldn’t justify to talk bad about them shortly after that. I think he is VERY vulnerable against manipulative tactics of psychopaths.
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Surely his ego is grandiose.
 
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