2024 US election: A Kennedy presidency? Trump again? Will it be rigged?

[Ryan]

I'm going to call it "The Wizard of Oz" complex. It implies that the ptb are so all powerful that they "allowed" Trump to win for some reason that suits them. I propose this part of the "illusion" they have created to control the herd is in fact false. It really is a very disempowering belief structure. In terms of numbers they are very, very few compared to the rest of humanity so they create various illusions to make themselves seem more powerful then they really are.

Exactly. Imagine the sort of pathological mind that believes in no free will, no Creator and absolute materialistic determinism. The sort of mind that thinks that spiritual progress is assured by the automated overcoming of moral choices through postmodern, nondualistic rationales. The sort of mind that sees themselves as the absolute centre of the Universe, with anything that benefits them as being of benefit to the world, regardless of the apparent pain or suffering observed.

These are the sorts of minds that cannot fathom situations that turn out contrary to their expectations, contrary to their notions of power and control. The sorts of minds that are collapsing into entropy, smashing their souls into primal matter and becoming a dream in the past.

The time of such minds to be among us has passed. Let them go into their own realities, where they can experience the consequences of challenging the Creator and failing, for eternity, if that is what they choose.

 

[happyliza]

Facts for the people of USA:
Prior to the election a book in my library caught my attention. It was given to me in a box of many astrological books by some spiritual people here.
So far it 100% hits the facts we are currently witnessing even though it was published in 2006!
Showing we are at a similar point to then. Little changed.
However, this is a totally non-biased book, being derived astrologically. Thus ideal for sharing with everyone who has currently flipped due to Trump winning the elections!
It also is very consoling and 'the way forward' facts for us too. If only as a view of the big picture.
Soul-Sick Nation
An Astrologer's View of America
Jessica Murray
- a briiliant analysis of the crisis confronting America and all Americans. I urge people to read this book and gain a cosmic perspective on the ingredients in our collective nation's soul'
With a rare blend of compassion, humor and fearless taboo-busting, this keenly intelligent book elucidates the meaning of a epoch in distress - and proposes a path towards healing.
Using a cosmic perspective to make sense of global crisis, Soul-Sick Nation explains how each of us can come to terms with this moment in history and arrive at a response that is unique and creative.
This book will leave you shorn of illusions and full of hope.
Enjoy.....

 

[axj]

Anyone who thinks that is delusional. That's a red flag for her.

Well, everyone makes mistakes, even despite the large network of people she gets information and intelligence from. And regarding red flags, Trump also had and still has more than enough of those. Yet these people are pretty much the best we've got in their respective fields.

 

[Ruth]

Now I am amazed that Trump somehow appears for most of you as the (white masculinist) nice guy, versus the demonic (black female) Harris, to say it short.
Don't you see that it's all a crazy show, where one side is more or less as alienated as the other one ?
Looking right and left, we know it's not a black or white reality. But here I don't see much nuances so far toward this political madness, IMO.

I think it comes down to who they work for and what their orientation is. It's a personal think, not something to do with skin colour. Unfortunately the Democrat party has become associated with many unpleasant, untrue and unnecessary things, at the moment. It alienated some of it's best members when it started cheating in elections, persecuting and silencing people and sending billions and billions of dollars overseas. It has a problem with corruption. Maybe it's just the effect of "Deep State"?

 

[Ruth]

I dunno, I think it's possible that there was little or not rigging in this one. If true, then it fits with the idea that there are a LOT of stupid people out there.

That's impossible! It doesn't fit the Democrat profile at all! I believe there was just less ballot harvesting because in 2020 there was copious 'ballot harvesting', corrupted voter rolls, as well as mail-in voting. I think there has been some improvement to the voter rolls, although they still need to purge them of all the dead people enrolled to vote, all the people who've moved out of State and are still enrolled in the State they came from, and all the people with no legitimate addresses, are not competent, or legally allowed to vote. These are the ones that can be 'ballot harvested', i.e. filled in by Democrats. That's how they do it.

I think they cheat and lie a lot more than there are stupid people... Of course stupid people would believe everything they say and everything they do, and not question it. Still not enough for them to win an election, that's why they had to (and will continue to, in my opinion) cheat, if they are allowed.

 

[Thebull]

And now the big news all over MSM is..."US charges Iranian man in plot to kill Donald Trump, Justice Dept says"

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-charges-iranian-man-plot-kill-donald-trump-justice-dept-says-2024-11-08/

The whole thing is just as ridiculous as it sounds:



So, is this the Neocon's brilliant Plan B PSYOP to get to war with Iran? First, after losing the election, they suddenly – a few days after saying Trump and his supporters are Nazis and garbage – act as they respect 'the will of the people' and 'peaceful transfer of power'. Then, they 'reveal' an Iranian plot to kill Trump – the 'righteous one that the American people have elected'! So, suddenly we're supposed to believe that a) they actually care about Trump's life, and b) the Iranians would be interested in killing Trump when, in fact, all the trouble started with the Biden administration and their support for the Zios and Bibi.

If this is their grand PSYOP then they've got really bad and lousy at these things.

This has been splashed on UK, MSM this morning (well been specific 'Sky news".)
It seems so predictable but I'd imagine it's a Mossad inspired leak, they're frothing at the mouth for a war with Iran. You'd hope he's not so easily played but who knows?
Its been nice to see the Dems lose but I doubt Trumps ability to make any real change, though fingers are crossed.
I do hope Trump survives long enough to meet Starmer and the cabinet here who have all previously insulted him. That has comedy value which you cannot put a price on.
We should all continue to pray for the best outcome possible as really anything could happen over the coming months.
It's good too observe and speculate but not to hold on to any imagined outcome. I think many people have had a nice feeling from the Trump win. It appears that this is just the beginning of the Show. Crazy times ahead!

 

[Voyageur]

I sometimes wish Trump would be a warmonger, but a 'good' one. First order of business: invade Canada, depose the criminal regime there, and liberate the Canucks.

Oh Please! Even if just invading for her (and a few others would do nicely).

Just a note that that video is from 2023 or thereabouts.

It will be interesting to see what he actually does in giving RFK Jr. the reins. However, the ugly forces aligned against will be nothing to sneeze at, so God speed.

@SummerLite: This is so exciting!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1854591082639536268

Great step.

Looking at what's happening, I wonder if it wasn't a good thing in the end that Trump didn't win in 2020. Because he wouldn't have been able to “rebuild” himself learn too over time and see more of the reality he'd gotten carried away with. Now he seems better armed, prepared, and perhaps also better surrounded to work. Even if the plans of the deep state will still constrain him and surely all of us. I don't know, but there's one thing that seems quite beneficial in retrospect, despite all the horrors that have unfolded over the last 4 years.

Joe had a point, which kind of brings me to think also, that if that had been true back then, then we might have missed the great revealing - my god, we have seen so much in such a short time period and people are not blind. That said, people have been unnecessarily killed, hurt and ponerized, living and watching these years go by (covid, war upon war, and lie upon lie). And so, here we all are with Trump/Vance and others and not the sitting alternative blob.

It is now a wait and see, of course.

 

[Esote]

You've been on this Forum since 2011 and I'd think you would know that there is not a "one way thinking pattern" here. What you might be noticing, however, is how a colinear group making efforts towards objective reality, for a very long time, is starting to see the unseen and beginning to have similar observations. I see this as a positive result of networking. This "pro-Trump tendency" you mentioned would have to be defined more precisely before anybody can really comment on it.

You may consider opening a thread in the Swamp to address your concerns.

... a lot of people think here this way: wait and see. We are just happy to see right now potentially crack in PTB wall

Thank you Jefferson and Kmicic for your answers.

I think there is no need to open a thread to address my concerns, which stand very simply as : from my own point of view (not similar to most of your observations, so I guess I'm far from any objective reality) Trump et al. appears to be another facet of the PTB.
May be a crack in their wall, or so it seems, but a very delusional one AFAIK.

Enjoy the show

 

[Ruth]

I've related here some of my discussions with my mother, who is a die-hard Democrat who hates Trump with a passion.

Since the election results became available showing that Trump won, she told my brother she was quitting her job with him and cut off all communications with him and me except via e-mail - even though doing so could result in her losing her home and her car with the loss of income.

I've just sent a message to her reminding her that what really matters is our shared common humanity, and to let go of all the crap that TV programmed her to believe over the last dozen years (which is all she does now with her time as she is almost completely immobile).

Maybe it has something to do with this programming?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1855066395916067150

 

[fifty_five]

... What you might be noticing, however, is how a colinear group making efforts towards objective reality...

Ihmo. Harris is certainly not an oppressed minority, nor does she represent it. She is part of the elite, like Trump, so I have no objection. There is also the electoral campaign to consider, which takes no prisoners, so i don't see her as a REAL victim at all, just as i don't see and have never seen Trump as a REAL victim. Interesting observation in any case. I mean objective reality, which after all we know is VARIABLE based on the assemblage point. The basis of everything is the mirror effect. Anyone outside the United States can testify to the total insanity of the electoral psychic meltdown on both sides. And not just today. It is always the fate of the world at stake, and not just the United States. Objective reality is always determined by the assemblage point of the real, whoever convinces you that their assemblage point is objective wins. The mirror effect is very useful for cultivation if you are a hunter and a warrior (therefore accustomed to traps, so let the citizens of the United States look at their republican/democratic mirror) but it is also the most powerful means of maintaining the status quo if you are not . So, yes. Actually a collective swamp of the west is needed.

 

[Nathancat7]

So, I have to say something finally because this keeps coming up. It's not about what Nathancat7 says here in particular but this phrase keeps coming up by others as well. I'm going to call it "The Wizard of Oz" complex. It implies that the ptb are so all powerful that they "allowed" Trump to win for some reason that suits them. I propose this part of the "illusion" they have created to control the herd is in fact false. It really is a very disempowering belief structure. In terms of numbers they are very, very few compared to the rest of humanity so they create various illusions to make themselves seem more powerful then they really are. Dividing people is also a key tactic for them.

We need to realize our own personal power apparently. It seems to me what has just happened in the USA has been well hidden for some time and very well gamed out. They lost, out smarted and out maneuvered. They have 2 months to go and we'll see what they have left, the story isn't over yet but they're loosing so far.

Back to The Wizard of Oz for a moment where the main characters are disempowered beings. After the wizard is revealed to be only a man these beings discover important qualities inside themselves they thought where missing. This can be seen as a delusion they where living under where they saw themselves as lesser than. Wizards and Magicians at work.

The C's say this story was inspired by 6D STO's and I think of it from time to time but especially now. Because it seems to relate so well to these times the qualities mentioned seem important to reflect and act upon, Knowledge, Courage and Compassion.

Ok, thats one way of looking at it and it's been on my mind. We'll be tired of winning before you know it. DJT

Thing is I like your post and I 100 percent agree with you.
In reality they have no power or creativity, and are parasitic.
Which is why Maga is important to do just what you said in a multipolar world.
And Trumps good at making money, he cares about that.
For 4 years I hope.
Things are really speeding up.
I think technologies will be introduced to 'out compete' other countries but also subvert peoples around the world.
There's that.
But there's something else going on as well.
Wasn't Ameraca a good big part of Atlantis
At it's height of absolute hell, Rome was engulfed in catyclsm.

 

[Nathancat7]

Anyone who thinks that is delusional. That's a red flag for her.

Right, my goodness

 

[987baz]

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Wow .. Trump tackling censorship .. sorry could t find it on yt.. was posted by Rogan on his instagram

Edit. Found it on twitter for those without instagram

https://twitter.com/x/status/1855185199790710935

 

[SOTTREADER]

Iran is the big trap for him now. You'd think they'll drive through that war knowing Trump will find it hard to talk to Iranians especially if a false flag is arranged.

For me Iran is the obvious play in terms of the most likely war they'll try to get Trump to start or support. I know @Beau said Trump didn't start any wars in his first term... let's hope it stays that way in his second term.

I think they'll wind down the Russian adventure and look to dial up the Iranian one.

 

[heinrich]

Facts for the people of USA:
Prior to the election a book in my library caught my attention. It was given to me in a box of many astrological books by some spiritual people here.
So far it 100% hits the facts we are currently witnessing even though it was published in 2006!
Showing we are at a similar point to then. Little changed.
However, this is a totally non-biased book, being derived astrologically. Thus ideal for sharing with everyone who has currently flipped due to Trump winning the elections!
It also is very consoling and 'the way forward' facts for us too. If only as a view of the big picture.
Soul-Sick Nation
An Astrologer's View of America
Jessica Murray
- a briiliant analysis of the crisis confronting America and all Americans. I urge people to read this book and gain a cosmic perspective on the ingredients in our collective nation's soul'
With a rare blend of compassion, humor and fearless taboo-busting, this keenly intelligent book elucidates the meaning of a epoch in distress - and proposes a path towards healing.
Using a cosmic perspective to make sense of global crisis, Soul-Sick Nation explains how each of us can come to terms with this moment in history and arrive at a response that is unique and creative.
This book will leave you shorn of illusions and full of hope.
Enjoy.....

thank you very much for mentioning the book by jessica murray. i downloaded it and read her concluding words. i found these very sensible and right. with such people, there is hope. as putin said : "there is always hope".