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There's a good interview with RFK jr from Glen Greenwald on Rumble from 12 Jun 23:
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The interview seems to have caused a bit of a stir, regarding RFK jr's comments on Israel.
It's about 90mins and covers:
About 36mins in Glen starts to ask about Israel policy and funding:
This interview was mentioned on UKColumn on 16 Jun 23. They were very much focused on RFK's explicit support for Israel from the interview. They both claim RFK did not seem his usual clear self while responding to questions about Israel. This resulted in quite an argument between Vanessa Beeley and Patrick Heningsen (it was on the members-only extra news, so I can't share here). It actually became pretty childish by the end.
Essentially Vanessa seems to believe RFK is simply another Zionist and always has been, who has sold himself out to the Israel lobby. On the other hand, Patrick's view was that the Israel lobby is so pervasive in US (and broader) politics that RFK would have no way to run without voicing support for Israel. His thinking was that RFK looked uncomfortable in this segment because these were not his views, but the points he has to put across as he will have been told to by the lobby. Vanessa's point was that, if Patrick is correct, RFK should come clean about what he had been told to say in order to run and then step out of the race...
Having watched the whole interview, I am also not so sure that RFK was that uncomfortable during the segment - out of context, maybe, but as part of the whole I didn't see too much difference in his demeanour. He was clearly being careful with his responses though (which makes sense given how 'radioactive' he sees the issue). Personally, I found myself more on Patrick's side of the argument here. We all know the power of various lobby groups and if RFK jr does want to get into power to do any good at all, he may have to work with some unsavoury types.
Vanessa Beeley has this short response to the interview on her SubStack:
beeley.substack.com
INTERVIEW: RFK Jr. on Russiagate, Israel/Roger Waters, JFK Assassination, Ukraine, & More | SYSTEM UPDATE #97
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The interview seems to have caused a bit of a stir, regarding RFK jr's comments on Israel.
It's about 90mins and covers:
- Covid response
- Kennedy family
- Biden camp ignoring RFK jr candidacy
- Same propaganda machine directed at Trump, covid, Russia etc.
- His position on Israel (more on this below)
- JFK documents to be made public
- Russia should not be treated as the enemy
- China is an adversary but it should be an economic one - competition is good
- China does not want military confrontation with Taiwan and they should be left to settle differences without US interference
- US interference led to Ukraine conflict, US is doing the same to China
- Neocon domination by violence has been catastrophic
- Vaccine-autism links (among many other health problems)
- Would pardon Snowdon and Assange on day 1
About 36mins in Glen starts to ask about Israel policy and funding:
- RFK jr praised Roger Waters on covid and other issues - but deleted his tweet because of Waters' views on Israel...
- He disagrees "fiercely" with Waters views on Israel and agreeing with him on other issues meant RFK could be seen to be promoting views he sees as "abhorrent".
- Those criticising Israel should not be termed 'anti-semitic' but he believes they have double standards in regards to criticism of other Middle-Eastern countries.
- He 'continues to admire' Waters - but the Israel issue is too 'radioactive' and he has to distance himself from him as he is most well known for his opposition to Israel.
- Palestinians are mistreated in Israel and the settlement situation is unfair. But he blames the Palestinian leadership for the two state solution failing.
- States Israel is a flawed democracy - but it is easier to be a dissident Arab in Israel than other Arab countries...
- He disagrees with the right-wing in Israel and wants a solution for Palestinians.
- Israel is the only Middle-Eastern state that allows gay/trans/other views etc.
- He states that Israel is "never going into the West Bank and killing children deliberately" (unlike other countries like Saudi Arabia where they do...)
- He says the US is giving aid to Israel because it is the model democracy in Middle-East and the model for peace keeping. He believes it is important to have a democracy there because no democracy has ever warred with another... However, he did accept that US funding of Israel could be looked at since Israel is better able to look after itself now.
This interview was mentioned on UKColumn on 16 Jun 23. They were very much focused on RFK's explicit support for Israel from the interview. They both claim RFK did not seem his usual clear self while responding to questions about Israel. This resulted in quite an argument between Vanessa Beeley and Patrick Heningsen (it was on the members-only extra news, so I can't share here). It actually became pretty childish by the end.
Essentially Vanessa seems to believe RFK is simply another Zionist and always has been, who has sold himself out to the Israel lobby. On the other hand, Patrick's view was that the Israel lobby is so pervasive in US (and broader) politics that RFK would have no way to run without voicing support for Israel. His thinking was that RFK looked uncomfortable in this segment because these were not his views, but the points he has to put across as he will have been told to by the lobby. Vanessa's point was that, if Patrick is correct, RFK should come clean about what he had been told to say in order to run and then step out of the race...
Having watched the whole interview, I am also not so sure that RFK was that uncomfortable during the segment - out of context, maybe, but as part of the whole I didn't see too much difference in his demeanour. He was clearly being careful with his responses though (which makes sense given how 'radioactive' he sees the issue). Personally, I found myself more on Patrick's side of the argument here. We all know the power of various lobby groups and if RFK jr does want to get into power to do any good at all, he may have to work with some unsavoury types.
Vanessa Beeley has this short response to the interview on her SubStack:
Kennedy denies Zionist deliberate ethnic cleansing of Palestinians
Interviewed by Glenn Greenwald, Kennedy twists and perverts reality
beeley.substack.com
