2024 US election: A Kennedy presidency? Trump again? Will it be rigged?

[seek10]

I was reading on the Net some wondering if finally Biden did not conscientiously facilitate Trump election. Apparently he dubbed Harris before the choice was really discussed, de facto crowding out more competent people. An act of rebellion after being asked to resign?

That is giving too much value to Biden. Biden can't even walk, talk, and see properly. This spat over 'whom to blame' is nonsense to hide the basic fact that they are clueless about what the common man wants. It is meant to project an image that they are capable and 'They matter'. In any case, these leaders are dummies (obvious exceptions are JFK and Trump). They and their staff can wield power as long as they don't cross the line the installers set up.

 

[Cosmos]

How come that in none of the rumors Tulsi Gabbard or Kennedy are even mentioned as possible candidates?

If the rumors are true, it yet again looks like Trump is choosing the worst people. By now we could ask: Is that really all just explainable by his naivety? Maybe he hasn’t the guts to put interesting people into those positions? Maybe he is threatened/blackmailed? Maybe it is really his choice? Maybe he puts some people there to expose them and then fire them later? I dunno.

 

[Beau]

If the rumors are true, it yet again looks like Trump is choosing the worst people.

I was willing to live with Stefanik at the UN. Fine, whatever. But there were WAY better choices than Rubio. This is like '16 when Trump picked Bolton. Just plain ignoring the mandate. There are some people saying Trump hasn't officially announced Rubio, it was leaked by NYT's Maggie Haberman, so there's a slight chance Rubio isn't the choice and it was another leak to the press to gauge response. I doubt it though. Feels like a return for a favor of some sort. Rubio isn't that much different than Liz Cheney for cryin out loud.

 

[Adobe]

Trump Expected To Tap Rubio As Secretary Of State​

by Tyler Durden

"There's a possibility that the Rubio rumors are being advanced by those who want him in that position, or that Trump is using a leak to test public reaction."

'The positive vibes were quickly shattered by reports that Trump will place three quintessential neocons in key national security and diplomacy positions -- Stefanik as UN ambassador, Waltz as national security advisor, and Rubio as Secretary of State. All three are anti-Iran hawks, zealous backers of the State of Israel, and major beneficiaries of pro-Israel lobbyists. According to Track AIPAC, pro-Israel groups have given more than $1 million to Rubio, $900,000 to Stefanik, and $235,000 to Waltz."

"The Times report on Rubio's apparent selection came after reports that contenders for the State job also included Tennessee Sen. Bill Hagerty, former acting director of national intelligence Richard Grenell and -- as a dark horse -- former presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy. One of the most hawkish of US senators, Rubio has promoted an aggressive stance against China, pushed for regime change in Venezuela, absolved Israel of any responsibility for tens of thousands of civilian deaths in Gaza, and advocated for US military preemption of a hypothetical Iranian nuclear weapon program:"

More links, X's, facts and speculations in the zerohedge report below:

Trump Expected To Tap Rubio As Secretary Of State | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[Cosmos]

I was willing to live with Stefanik at the UN. Fine, whatever. But there were WAY better choices than Rubio. This is like '16 when Trump picked Bolton. Just plain ignoring the mandate. There are some people saying Trump hasn't officially announced Rubio, it was leaked by NYT's Maggie Haberman, so there's a slight chance Rubio isn't the choice and it was another leak to the press to gauge response. I doubt it though. Feels like a return for a favor of some sort. Rubio isn't that much different than Liz Cheney for cryin out loud.

Sometimes I wonder if Trump is at times picking lunatics on purpose because he wants to look tough not only within America but towards other countries? At least you could speculate about that given what he claimed about Bolton for example.

The problem seems to be though that his rational for doing so is based on believing a lot of mainstream nonsense/lies, such as: “Dictators like Putin or Xi understand only the language of violence, threat’s and pressure.“

Trumps main problem might be that he believes a lot of nonsense (as most Americans do) in addition of being shockingly naive at times.

On the other hand one could argue for this idea: “keep your friends close and your enemies closer“.

Although in that case Trump is probably overestimating his ability to handle such people in such ways.

 

[luc]

Sometimes I wonder if Trump is at times picking lunatics on purpose because he wants to look tough not only within America but towards other countries?

I think Trump said explicitly that this was his play with Bolton at the time, so it's not unlikely.

Here's a blackpill: that Trump would get anything done against the Deep State was always a long shot, much less some of his more colorful ideas. Tulsi was never going to be Sec of State - she is a former democrat and this is not how it works. Same for RFK, a lot depends on how much influence he will actually get, both on paper and in terms of support behind the scenes. And so on. We should not kid ourselves here.

Here's a white pill: We can't infer from this or that appointment that everything will go to hell, or that everything will be perfect. There is a lot going on behind the scenes we don't know, and the real test will be how Trump and his team react in real situations when they are in power, and how the team works. Official positions are not the only marker, it's about who of these people, including those with no real titles, wields actual influence and can pull it off. One hopeful sign is for example that there is a phalanx of MAGA influencers that are tracking Deep State shenenigans closely and that have the ear both of Trump and the movement. This can be real power. So wait and see I suppose.

 

[SummerLite]

Jack Poso


@JackPosobiec

MSNBC ratings have cratered 50% since the election and Comcast is considering cutting it loose and selling it

 

[Laurentien2]

Here's a white pill: We can't infer from this or that appointment that everything will go to hell, or that everything will be perfect. There is a lot going on behind the scenes we don't know, and the real test will be how Trump and his team react in real situations when they are in power, and how the team works. Official positions are not the only marker, it's about who of these people, including those with no real titles, wields actual influence and can pull it off. One hopeful sign is for example that there is a phalanx of MAGA influencers that are tracking Deep State shenenigans closely and that have the ear both of Trump and the movement. This can be real power. So wait and see I suppose.

Well said Luc, Trump as to navigate a real cesspool. After two attempt on is life, one that came to centimetre to take is life, he may be playing the deep state to at least as a chance to get to his inauguration. A lot can happen until then and as the C’s told us, he know what he is again and certainly by now know what they are capable of doing. We trusted him so far and he has learned a lot from his first 4 years as commander in chief. So let be patient and pray that he see the 20 of January.

If there are darker motives behind is choice and I certainly could come up with some, I’m not ready to contemplate them right now but none the less, will continue to pay close attention.

 

[SummerLite]

Rubio hasn't been announced on Truth Social yet where Trumps posting his picks, so fallowing that may be helpful.

Truth Social

Truth Social is America's "Big Tent" social media platform that encourages an open, free, and honest global conversation without discriminating on the basis of political ideology.

truthsocial.com

Benny Johnson claims he received the initial whip vote to head the Senate and posted it on X. 2 Rino;s in the lead and MAGA candidate Rick Scott failing. A giant explosion of MAGA voters ensues with phone calls and X messages to these Reps who are reported not voting for Scott. Senator Kennedy claims on Fox no such vote was held and he will support Trump. So was this vote real or a sceme to get the public to support Scott? The list is in this post. The vote is to be secret.....not good.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1856120722948599948

 

[JEEP]

But there were WAY better choices than Rubio.

More links, X's, facts and speculations in the zerohedge report below:

Yes, I was quite unhappy to see Rubio (supposedly) selected for Sec. of State and @Adobe 's linked article fleshes that out.

Sometimes I wonder if Trump is at times picking lunatics on purpose because he wants to look tough not only within America but towards other countries?

Who's to say they are for real and not just for show so to speak? One can speculate that these picks are an effort by Trump to actually stay alive to become president by placating Deep State elements.

Here's a white pill: We can't infer from this or that appointment that everything will go to hell, or that everything will be perfect.

For sure, it's a wait and see situation, but his landslide win should tip the scales in favor of a reversal of "what has been." It would be an enormous mistake on Trump's part to not do his utmost best to right the sinking ship - including US stance on foreign policy - and let the evildoers continue to have their way assuming he can finally comprehend the bigger picture. Prayers for the best outcome are a must imo.

 

[Cosmos]

I think Trump said explicitly that this was his play with Bolton at the time, so it's not unlikely.

Here's a blackpill: that Trump would get anything done against the Deep State was always a long shot, much less some of his more colorful ideas. Tulsi was never going to be Sec of State - she is a former democrat and this is not how it works. Same for RFK, a lot depends on how much influence he will actually get, both on paper and in terms of support behind the scenes. And so on. We should not kid ourselves here.

Here's a white pill: We can't infer from this or that appointment that everything will go to hell, or that everything will be perfect. There is a lot going on behind the scenes we don't know, and the real test will be how Trump and his team react in real situations when they are in power, and how the team works. Official positions are not the only marker, it's about who of these people, including those with no real titles, wields actual influence and can pull it off. One hopeful sign is for example that there is a phalanx of MAGA influencers that are tracking Deep State shenenigans closely and that have the ear both of Trump and the movement. This can be real power. So wait and see I suppose.

Well said Luc, Trump as to navigate a real cesspool. After two attempt on is life, one that came to centimetre to take is life, he may be playing the deep state to at least as a chance to get to his inauguration. A lot can happen until then and as the C’s told us, he know what he is again and certainly by now know what they are capable of doing. We trusted him so far and he has learned a lot from his first 4 years as commander in chief. So let be patient and pray that he see the 20 of January.

If there are darker motives behind is choice and I certainly could come up with some, I’m not ready to contemplate them right now but none the less, will continue to pay close attention.

All very good points to keep in mind!

 

[Approaching Infinity]

I think Trump said explicitly that this was his play with Bolton at the time, so it's not unlikely.

Yeah, he said this during the Rogan interview, how he kept Bolton around because it was good walking into a talk with foreign leaders with a nutjob.

Here's a blackpill: that Trump would get anything done against the Deep State was always a long shot, much less some of his more colorful ideas. Tulsi was never going to be Sec of State - she is a former democrat and this is not how it works. Same for RFK, a lot depends on how much influence he will actually get, both on paper and in terms of support behind the scenes. And so on. We should not kid ourselves here.

Here's a white pill: We can't infer from this or that appointment that everything will go to hell, or that everything will be perfect. There is a lot going on behind the scenes we don't know, and the real test will be how Trump and his team react in real situations when they are in power, and how the team works. Official positions are not the only marker, it's about who of these people, including those with no real titles, wields actual influence and can pull it off. One hopeful sign is for example that there is a phalanx of MAGA influencers that are tracking Deep State shenenigans closely and that have the ear both of Trump and the movement. This can be real power. So wait and see I suppose.

Here's a similar take on X:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1856330781984973033

Basically, he has to throw the establishment a bone with some appointments, but the hope is that he will control them and fire them if they go off script. Some are pointing out that even with all the neocons in his first administration, he didn't start any new wars.

 

[Beau]

Basically, he has to throw the establishment a bone with some appointments, but the hope is that he will control them and fire them if they go off script. Some are pointing out that even with all the neocons in his first administration, he didn't start any new wars.

One way to keep Rubio under control would be to give Sec Def to Tulsi. That's apparently the post she desires. It would also be a nice gesture to Gabbard, who likely brought a good number of centrist/libertarian votes Trump's way with her endorsement, expecting her foreign policy stance to be part of Trump's admin.

 

[JEEP]

I know we are all hoping for the best with Trump and recognize the extreme circumstances he is faced with to accomplish real change that benefits humanity as a whole. I also have to recognize the idea of Trump as a savior is maybe the backbone of this hope - a very unrealistic idea it would seem. We know the Cs said the US is past the point of no return - and for sure our karma is as bad as it could possibly get - but the Cs also said humanity has one last chance. Did we make that point by electing Trump in a landslide? I guess I'm not ready to abandon hope just yet even though I know a cosmic change is already happening. I'm not sure what to expect, just the clarity and strength to endure whatever plays out. It does help to think the good guys at least have a chance with the return of Trump. Wait and see.

 

[Tomiro]

Yeah, he said this during the Rogan interview, how he kept Bolton around because it was good walking into a talk with foreign leaders with a nutjob.

Basically, he has to throw the establishment a bone with some appointments, but the hope is that he will control them and fire them if they go off script. Some are pointing out that even with all the neocons in his first administration, he didn't start any new wars.

Could be, although Trump admitted that he made many mistakes in hiring people in that interview. Not sure if he was completely serious with his comment about Bolton or if it was more in jest.

I remember how after getting Bolton during his previous term, the media (for once, correctly) criticized Trump for hiring a warmonger. Then after Trump fired Bolton for being a warmonger, the same media were up in arms about how "Trump has finally lost it, and fired the only voice of reason left in the administration"..