2024 US election: A Kennedy presidency? Trump again? Will it be rigged?

[Jones]

Oh and there's a nice patch of land on Phobos for the Israelis, though even that is not far enough.

Was thinking something similar. Maybe the Israelis, the other swamp monsters and those that threatened to leave US if Trump was elected could be sent to Antartica. Or let Elon give them a one-way trip to Mars.

 

[SummerLite]

All we’ve heard about is record turnout for this election. These numbers don’t seem to jive. I don’t know the velections racity of these numbers, but it’s kind of strange. I know the C’s basically said the last election was rigged, but did they ever say how many votes were added? There is quite a discrepancy there.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1854144250562429081

I'm noticing that there is a lot of talk about the 2020 election numbers coming up all of a sudden. The theft of that election has always been discussed for the last 4 years, Trump being the most public. But this latest interest makes me wonder if that cheat will be examined in a more official capacity coming up.

Arizona is so corrupt and Kari Lake very likely won the Senate race but they sure don't want her in there because she's to honest and will shut down all the traffic coming over the boarder. Trump and the GOP lawyers need to get in there quickly. They did a good job helping to keep the cheating down in this election and one reason among many the Dems couldn't steal it. There was enormous work done for this win and I'm sure we're barely aware of that yet. People where threatened with prosecution which was a biggy. A massive Trump team, a massive voter turn out and no Covid 19 for massive mail in ballots lost it for the Dems. They weren't allowed to steal it again. Not that they will stop trying.

The GOP lawyers need to head to Arizona pronto!

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[Sol Logos]

On the brighter side of Trump & Co. (should he actually make it to the White House), Joe Rogan mentioned his doing away with income tax, and Trump, while not giving a resounding yes to the idea, didn't dismiss it either. Martin Armstrong discusses the feasibility of just such a move in this recent interview (below). If you think about it, one of the best ways to shrink federal government spending, while supporting the livelihoods of all working Americans in a way that boosts the economy would include this move. And how would Trump-hating liberals suddenly feel if they find themselves earning a third more of their salary? (That would be interesting to see.)

Anyway, here's Armstrong on doing away with the federal income tax. He himself has worked out a plan for how this might be done in a way that transfers the US debt via vouchers to private industry. I'd have to listen again to get my terminology correct but it's fascinating to hear discussed.

Real News from Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog: Economic News and Breaking News Reports

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Oh--I have one last note on Catherine Austin Fitts: don't get rid of the Federal Reserve, she says, before getting back the 21 trillion stolen from US. taxpayers starting in 1998 (I believe it was). If you get rid of the Fed first, she explains, you'll never see that money. And it can easily be traced, she says. (The thought of banksters forced to dissolve their worldly assets comes to mind. Now that's justice.) She and her colleague Mark Skidmore have documented this inconceivable theft -- actually, I'm sure I've made mention of it here in the past. Anyway, here's her very brief history on this: The Missing Money – The Missing Money

I wonder if Trump could close the Fed? These steps could be how. I’d imagine this would happen gradually to manage all the push back:

Step 1: The Fed buys out all the Treasury bonds
The Fed buys up every last Treasury bond out there. The ones sitting in the portfolios of big banks, insurance companies, pension funds, the usual suspects: Goldman Sachs, Vanguard, BlackRock, the big pension funds holding on to government debt like it’s a guaranteed payday. Every bond bought out, no extra new money “printed” after that. And cancel all that student debt while they’re at it too.

Step 2: Bury the debt
Once those bonds and other debts are paid by the Fed, they’re just entries on the “books”. Because Trump’s administration runs the Fed, he cancels the obligation to pay it and closes its doors for good. No repayments, no interest. And no one is chasing for money, everyone has already been paid off.

Step 3: Reinvest every dollar saved
All those billions—maybe trillions—used servicing the debt? And all the tax paying interest, not even touching the debt itself? Free and clear. It all goes straight into what people actually need. Infrastructure that doesn’t crumble, schools that don’t fall apart, real energy system reform, maybe nuclear. All of it goes to making life better for people.

Step 4: Let the banks compete
With the Fed not around doing rate control, banks start to feel the heat of real competition. They’re flush with liquidity from those bond buyouts, but now they have to actually compete. Rates start to fall because that’s what the market wants. Mortgages, business loans—all get cheaper. People have more space to live, to invest, to make something of their own.

Step 5: Create jobs, building America
Those freed-up funds, not servicing debt goes to creating jobs. Not just any jobs—useful government jobs, ones with a purpose. Fixing education, high-tech manufacturing, infrastructure, regenerative agriculture, modernising the military. Jobs that build things that last and keep people healthy. Putting people to work to create a future everyone can rely on. More jobs, more market stimulus.

Step 6: Full transparency for the public
So not to be in the same mess, every dollar spent get accounted for. Trump’s administration reports on every project, every investment, and it’s all out in the open. No hidden costs, no backroom deals. The public knows exactly where the money’s going and why. This is actually where a crypto could excel. But now Digital ID is only for government workers handling the money! All tracked and traced.

Step 7: Ignore the noise, Trump holds the course. Wall Street throws a fit, pundits wail. Doesn’t matter, he’s builds economic reverses, gold, oil, new energy sources etc. Trump invests in US self-sufficiency, creates a formidable cyber and defence infrastructure, secures the borders. He diversifies strategic alliances and trade partnerships, BRICS+ ASEAN and others. This shields from against external pressures and all sorts of asymmetrical warfare tactics. Trump has the resources, the know-how, the people to make this work. No outside approval necessary, just a steady course.

Step 8: Build for the future
This isn’t just wiping out debt; it’s paves a new road forward. No interest payments, no bonds hanging over the US people’s heads, no endless cycles, not more all kinds of industrial complexes. This opens the way to remove tax altogether. Have just a basic 1%. Just the country building what it needs, for its people, and inspiring other countries to do the same.

…Anyways, I’d imagine it’s a pipe dream. But if anyone could do it, it would be Trump!

 

[BlueKiwi]

I wonder what the real election results were. I suspect Trump won by a huge margin.

 

[goyacobol]

More than Trump's victory (we will see how it plays out) the most important IMO is the humiliation of the demoncrat party with its globalists, neolibs and neocons.

I think this is a reasonable way to look at the Trump "victory" and I might add I did vote for Donald Trump over Kamala Harris. Aside from this temporary respite phase of history I think we have much to consider in terms of what may lie ahead.

The resistance to the hubris of the the "globalists, neolibs and neocons" is a good start but as many of us know the
Cs give us pause to consider future possible "attack" avenues from 4D STS through 3D STS cooperatives.

I think @Heather gives us some very possible tactics to expect in her post here. Thank you @Heather .

Also, there are a few things that I have been considering to be possibilities (hopefully they will be mitigated ones but who knows?).

As for the possible digital currency mentioned by @Heather (which may also end up as just another trap) the Cs did say something that stuck in my mind in the following session:

Session 26 April 2014:

Q: (L) In short, be circumspect, I think. (KJN) What is the status of the money system in the United States? If you have money in the bank, can you leave it there, or should we be doing something more proactive?

A: If you store it with the fox, you will lose it at some point rather soon.

Q: (Odyssey) On the money issue, would it be a good idea to invest in silver or gold?

A: Partly, but what about "needful things"?

Q: (KJN) So we should spend it on things we need now, versus spending it on gold or putting in a bank or that kind of thing?

A: Mostly. Money will soon be worthless, ownership will survive awhile longer.

I think most of us have this sense of freedom or desire to own or accumulate possessions.

Of course the Cs also talk about this need or desire to "possess".

This is not exactly an answer that satisfies my own understanding and does not probably exactly apply to our current situation but never the less I post it as reminder to my self and hopefully to others to ponder or meditate upon for our fate/future as a species/earthlings:

Session 28 August 1999:

Q: On many occasions you have said that the ideal thing is to have perfect balance of physicality and ethereality. This has been said on a number of occasions. Now, I don't understand how it can be that gratification of a physical body can be the mechanics by which one is entrapped? Is it not gratifying to look at something beautiful? Is it wrong, sinful, or a form of a fall, to look at beauty, to hear something beautiful such as music, or to touch something that is sensually delightful such as a piece of silk or the skin of a loved one? These various things that the human being derives pleasure from very often elevate them to a spiritual state.

A: Possession is the key.

Q: What do you mean?

A: In STS, you possess.

Q: That's what I am saying here...

A: If you move through the beautiful flowers, the silk, the skin of another, but do not seek to possess...

Q: It seems to me that it is possible to experience all of these things, including sex, without the need or desire to possess; only to give. In which case, I still don't understand how it can be a mechanism for a 'fall.'

A: If it is desired, then the mechanism is not to give. Do you eat a piece of chocolate cake because it is good to give to the stomach?

Q: Well, you could!

A: No, in STS, which is your realm do not forget, one gives because of the pleasant sensation which results.

Q: Could it not be said that, if everything that exists is part of God, including the flesh, that if one gives to the flesh, without being attached to the giving, that it could be considered a giving to the 'All?'

A: Explain the process.

Q: For example: there are some people who like to suffer, because they believe that the flesh is sinful. That is a big thing that the Lizzies have instituted. For centuries they have wanted people to suffer, and they have made this big deal about sex and anything that might be considered pleasant or desirable should be denied, and that a person should suffer, and revel in their suffering. And, actually, making a person...

A: If one seeks to suffer, they do so in expectation of future reward. They desire to possess something in the end.

Q: What I am saying is: if a person can simply BE, in the doing and being of who and what they are, in simplicity; to become involved in doing everything as a meditation, or as a consecration, whether they are walking down the street and being at one with the air, the sunshine, the birds and trees and other people; in this state of oneness, doesn't that constitute a giving to the universe as giving oneself up as a channel for the universe to experience all these things?

A: Not if one is "feeling this oneness."

Q: We are what we are. Nature is nature. Progression is progression. And if people would just relax and be who and what they are in honesty, and do what is according to their nature without violating the Free Will of others, that this is a more pure form of being than doing things out of any feeling of expectation, or desire; to just BE, not want... just BE?

A: Yes, but STS does not do that.

Q: (A) From which I draw conclusions: if there STS around us, we cannot just...

A: You are all STS. If you were not, you would not be where you are.

Q: (A) There are those who are happy in the STS mode; and there are those who are trying to get out of the STS mode...

A: STO candidate.

Q: (A) These STO candidates cannot just simply BE, even theoretically, because then, STS would eat them.

A: No.

Q: Why not?

A: STS does not eat according to protocol.

Q: What does that mean?

A: What do you suppose?

Q: I have no idea!

A: STS "eats" whatever it wants to, if it is able.

Q: That's what we said. If you are STO in an STS world, you are basically defenseless and they eat you.

A: No.

Q: Why? What makes STO unavailable or 'inedible?'

A: Frequency resonance not in sync.

Q: (A) But then, that would mean that all these people who are saying that we need just to love everything and everybody, are right. They just be, and love, don't do anything, just give everything to the Lizzies... they are right!

A: No, because motivation is STS.

Q: How is the motivation to love everything and everybody, and to just give, STS?

A: Feels good.

Q: So, they want to do it because it feels good?

A: Want is an STS concept.

Q: So, you seem to be suggesting that the real trick is to just become non-attached to anything and anybody, do nothing, and just dissolve into nothing? No thought, no want, no do, no be, no anything!

A: If you are STS, that does not fit, but, if you did exactly that, you would reincarnate in an STO realm, where such energy does fit.

Q: But, if you have become nothing, how do you reincarnate? And, when you say 'reincarnate,' that implies being in a body!

A: You do not become nothingness.

Q: But, being incarnated means being in a body?

A: No.

Q: You mean moving into a realm that does not necessarily mean being in a body?

A: Close. But 4th density is partially physical. Does not consume nor possess.

Q: (A) This is contradictory to what we are doing. (L) Why write a book or do anything? There is no point. We should just sit around, do nothing but contemplate our navels and do nothing. (F) Why do you say that? (L) Because doing anything at all constitutes wanting, needing, possessing, having, and so on. (F) Of course, because this is an STS realm. (L) So, therefore, we should do nothing. We should contemplate our navels and try to get out of it and to heck with everybody else! (F) I disagree. (L) Otherwise, it is contradictory. If you try to help anyone else, or do for anyone else, you are desiring to help them. Therefore, you are desiring to change something... (F) Well, sure, but this is an STS realm. (L) Anyway, I would like to know who and what this Marcia Schafer is channelling. She seems to be channelling several sources, or claims to be. Could you tell me who and what?

A: Not yet, because this issue is not yet resolved. You are confused because you seem to think you must be STO to be an STO candidate. You are STS, and you simply cannot be otherwise, until you either reincarnate or transform at realm border crossing.

Q: Alright, I got that.

A: But, did Ark?

Q: We are here, we are what we are, and until the realm border comes, we can't be anything else. (F) So, don't worry about being STS. That is what we all are. As long as we eat food, that's what we are. It's that simple. You can be moving toward STO, but you aren't there yet, and there is nothing wrong with that. (A) We ask a question, and you answer this question, and this answer can be interpreted in different ways. I am not sure which way this answer was meant. The answer was: if you are STS, the answer does not fit. I mean, sitting and doing nothing. If you are STS that does not fit. But, if you do exactly that, you will reincarnate in an STO realm where such an energy does fit. There are several interpretations. One is that, if we do exactly that, we reincarnate in an STO realm where the energy does fit, and it would be just the right thing to do, because we WANT to be in an STO realm. So, one sure way to go to an STO realm is to sit under the tree and do nothing and contemplate your navel, but not having too much fun... eat nothing, desire nothing... typical Zen. There is another possible interpretation: if you would do exactly that, then you would reincarnate in an STO realm where such energy does fit, but there may be other STO realms that do NOT consist of such energies. So, maybe there is a way to another way to another STO realm, to which this energy does NOT go, but other ways would go. (L) And, there is another problem here: the very fact that one would do this is DESIRING to go to an STO realm! Which precludes the going. If you desire to be STO, you are screwed! (A) Not being, that is what some teachers teach. Nirvana. Is this something that is supposed to be the only way, and is it something that we are being encouraged to follow because it is no desire, no anything. Or, are there different STO realms?

A: Not different realms, as such, but different ways of getting there. Your respective developments have led you to where you are.

May all of us reach our desired state and purpose whatever that may be without too much "want" by way of "natural progression".

 

[Nević Nenad]

I wonder what the real election results were. I suspect Trump won by a huge margin.

I've heard somewhere that team Trump were ready for some 20 to 25.000.000. votes to be stolen and even then to win by a small margin. Seems that the margin was way way bigger than that.


I don't think that Trump would change even half of the things people want to be changed, but the fact that he won is really enough. He became a symbol of "good" and "light" for the people, especially for the people in the western hemisphere. That's enough. The energy is changed. The rest is up to the people and time.

 

[Voyageur]

This will be amazing if it comes true, but FYI Thomas Massie says he hasn't been asked yet:

Liked what Massie said here:

His campaign unified many neglected constituencies, from the Amish who just want to be left alone to grow healthy food, to parents who want more access to nutritious food for their families.

Good for the Amish, so many are just done with the Washington blob-of-things, and I'm sure many understand it won't be easy if near impossible to right the ship.

Up North, the win to Trump played out in various ways, while on the CBC they did their usual state backed rhetoric (one guy made a few points bringing up the Hunter's laptop story, then only to be browbeat - and he let her do it) while the 'offended one' looked no further than saying that Trump is trying to destroy our institutions, and that include the legacy press (coming from the CBC press in this case).

https://twitter.com/x/status/1854014431870558230

What she really was saying might be akin to the high chancellor, Adam Sutler's 'Why They Need Us' spittle.

 

[fifty_five]

Trump is not uninterested in starting wars because he's a pacifist, rather it's because he's not interested in wasting vast amounts of money for very little return, other than domination and destruction for the purposes of control. That does not fit with his goals for the USA, so for that reason, and the fact that he started no war in his first term, it's highly likely that, if allowed to, he will be much more pacifist than the swamp would have been if they had secured another term for them.

I am always in for fun. Paraphrasing his buddy's honest pacifist hubris , we can coup of tea whoever we want .

 

[gottathink]

I am always in for fun. Paraphrasing his buddy's honest pacifist hubris , we can coup of tea whoever we want .

I don’t understand what you are saying here.

 

[luc]

One thing I'll say is that it feels like a cloud has lifted, like the control grid of doom has been temporarily broken. It will be much easier for people to say what they truly think going forward. Of course the dark overlords haven't finished, not by a long shot, but that's how it feels at the moment. Timeline shift vibes!