26 people raped a 13 YO girl. Court's decision :"it happened with her consent"

I am not sure if my signature was recorded, as they wanted a donation of no less than 2$. I do not have a credit card, or paypal account. Pretty sad that kids are treated this way.
 
davey72 said:
I am not sure if my signature was recorded, as they wanted a donation of no less than 2$. I do not have a credit card, or paypal account. Pretty sad that kids are treated this way.
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Yes it was recorded, the donation part is an extra :)
 
How disturbing... Wow. I too have shared and signed it...

Still just saddened by this poor girl at thirteen being sold, raped and having to live through it only to have it happen over and over again. It is hard to heal from one rap let alone 26 times... I hope justice is served here in this case. If only...
 
Oxajil said:
happyliza said:
And yes 2 court cases still pending after 2 and 3 years. One I am being forced by a family to pay blood money for my turkish psychopath boyfriend killing himself in our family's car - my mother hadn't even see it yet! Yep he was speeding and I was lucky he had dropped me home 15 mins before he insisted going out again (most probably to a 'nightclub'). On the drive home his erratic driving made me say 'slow down I see you wish to kill us both'. Famous last words!
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Sorry, maybe it's just me, but you don't seem to be concerned at all about your boyfriend's death. Kind of solely seeing it as something that's causing you trouble. But then again, I don't know him or you. Do you think he is psychopathic because you think he visits nightclubs? He seems pretty disturbed to me from what you wrote, but that doesn't have to mean psychopathic, he could have had many issues, and his death just sounds sad to me. No need to answer any personal questions if you don't want to of course.
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Only just noticed yourpost - sorry.
Yes I was totally devastated when it happened and still am . I was still reeling after the succession of deaths/loss of people very close to me too. Objectively it was a roller coaster ride for me with him, starting with being 'conned'out of more than £25000, and forever demanding more of anything from me, lies, deceit and persuading me to put the logbook into his name of my mum's new car when buying it so I don't pay the tourist price etc (luckily i did a separate agreement which is the basis of the court case now) However he also knew that the insurance would be automatically in his name if the log book was - unusual law here gets you every time) Well my insurance company lawyers then worked against me! The case has lasted 3 years so far. He had also conned a lady I met after he had died - we have become good friends now and she has done a statement whereby the police had arrested him and he had to pay back some of the deposit he stole from her for a flat. He was an out and out user but it did not stop me loving him at the time as I was getting indications but not the full picture as I was not living here permanently at the time. His family even tried to get me to pay for his gravestones when my mother and I (she flew out immediately to be with me) attended his funeral in Turkey. When they engraved the dates on the stone, family came to meat the graveside to say I had his age wrong - he had even lied about that - so not my fault they would have had to change the headstone. (karma?).

Most I found out afterwards.(Hindsight and what people have told me since) I was helping him set up a business for us to do. After he died I found out all the excuses he gave for the money were lies and that he had no intention of paying it back as he was an inveterate gambler. The night he died he caused an arguement in order to get the car saying I didn't trust him - which was true by then. He was definitely 'on' something whilst driving as erratic and scary driving nearly killed uson the way home. Not one to take no for an answer - he said he had to see his sister - it was her son's birthday - later I realised he had used the same excuse less than 6 months before! You get so befuddled! Also nightclub here means brothel. There is a lot more. Expensive emotional lessons. I was very vulnerable as just come out of a divorce with another psychopath (also a gambler and womaniser....)who I didn't want to leave me - ie rejection programme and very low self esteem and lack of self respect. (Have been too trusting and very gullible).

I KNOW what psychopathic is now I have read all the books and shared them too! This forum has saved me. I had beenwaiting forpsycho analysis - a lot of help that would have been! It was soul deep deep hurt - they don't deal with that! I have had 4 definite ones as well as the usual manipulators. I choose to stay single now, off the cycle - and lovin' it! A dog is your best friend! More time to learn and help others.
 
Hi happyliza,

I'm sorry you had to deal with such individuals. I think you're doing well by using these experiences for learning more about others and yourself. I was wondering if you are already practicing the Éiriú Eolas program? It can help tremendously with any issue. You may also want to look into the Psychology books on how to work on your feelings of self-worth etc. And networking helps too.
Thanks for sharing anyhow :)
 
Thanks for your good advice Oxajil. I do get misunderstood alot - I know I have to work on this ie how I come across -either half info or too long winded! I like your signatures - they are things I try to keep uppermost in my mind. Regarding EE I did do it for a while but was finding it too emotional but have promised myself Iwill start doing the full programme again now. I say POTS throughout the day to ground myself and self remember as often as I can. It also help with will-power.

I have also eliminated all the baddies since January and am on the 'list' food since 21st September, having read and studied the threads and bought the relevant books - currently nearly finished PBPM which is brilliant and I hope to report my update soon. I really believe that diet does affect our self esteem and our self worth among all the other many many pros of eliminating all that does not serve us foodwise. I found it really insightful as well as our threads. Amazing findings - I have studied nutrition for a long time but never quite got to these magnificent findings. There are some books you have just got to keep to hand together with the main 'deep psychology' books - most of which I have studied now - a huge help - let alone RELIEF! I will never stop learning as it is my major past-time and life goal - knowledge. Thus I have never been bored in my life and have also managed to combat 'loneliness' now. I am getting the feeling of a male/female balance within myself and somehow not needing to look outside of myself for the 'other' if you know what i mean? A certain inner peacefulness - though still alot of work to do on 'emotions'. And of course The Work.

Yes networking certainly helps - I have not said much to date as busy working on catching up with the posts and getting the books read so I am not too much noise. Also all these books need reading more than once for proper understanding. Its like reading the symptoms for the first time and then going back noting the causes and the solutions - and I have found many! So lots to work on. Of course many wrong choices were made in my life by me too - but I can see how they got under the radar with all the imbalances going on in my body let alone upbringing influences. I am keeping a journal of sorts. Luckily we are all in the same boat but for once I am not rudderless - we have good captains at the helm! Thanks again.
 
happyliza said:
Thanks for your good advice Oxajil. I do get misunderstood alot - I know I have to work on this ie how I come across -either half info or too long winded! I like your signatures - they are things I try to keep uppermost in my mind. Regarding EE I did do it for a while but was finding it too emotional but have promised myself Iwill start doing the full programme again now. I say POTS throughout the day to ground myself and self remember as often as I can. It also help with will-power.
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Nice! And you can always leave out the BaHa portion of the program if things get too intense.

happyliza said:
I have also eliminated all the baddies since January and am on the 'list' food since 21st September, having read and studied the threads and bought the relevant books - currently nearly finished PBPM which is brilliant and I hope to report my update soon. I really believe that diet does affect our self esteem and our self worth among all the other many many pros of eliminating all that does not serve us foodwise. I found it really insightful as well as our threads. Amazing findings - I have studied nutrition for a long time but never quite got to these magnificent findings. There are some books you have just got to keep to hand together with the main 'deep psychology' books - most of which I have studied now - a huge help - let alone RELIEF! I will never stop learning as it is my major past-time and life goal - knowledge. Thus I have never been bored in my life and have also managed to combat 'loneliness' now. I am getting the feeling of a male/female balance within myself and somehow not needing to look outside of myself for the 'other' if you know what i mean? A certain inner peacefulness - though still alot of work to do on 'emotions'. And of course The Work.

Yes networking certainly helps - I have not said much to date as busy working on catching up with the posts and getting the books read so I am not too much noise. Also all these books need reading more than once for proper understanding. Its like reading the symptoms for the first time and then going back noting the causes and the solutions - and I have found many! So lots to work on. Of course many wrong choices were made in my life by me too - but I can see how they got under the radar with all the imbalances going on in my body let alone upbringing influences. I am keeping a journal of sorts. Luckily we are all in the same boat but for once I am not rudderless - we have good captains at the helm! Thanks again.
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Thanks for sharing. Keep on doing what you do!
 
happyliza said:
Oxajil said:
happyliza said:
And yes 2 court cases still pending after 2 and 3 years. One I am being forced by a family to pay blood money for my turkish psychopath boyfriend killing himself in our family's car - my mother hadn't even see it yet! Yep he was speeding and I was lucky he had dropped me home 15 mins before he insisted going out again (most probably to a 'nightclub'). On the drive home his erratic driving made me say 'slow down I see you wish to kill us both'. Famous last words!
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Sorry, maybe it's just me, but you don't seem to be concerned at all about your boyfriend's death. Kind of solely seeing it as something that's causing you trouble. But then again, I don't know him or you. Do you think he is psychopathic because you think he visits nightclubs? He seems pretty disturbed to me from what you wrote, but that doesn't have to mean psychopathic, he could have had many issues, and his death just sounds sad to me. No need to answer any personal questions if you don't want to of course.
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Only just noticed yourpost - sorry.
Yes I was totally devastated when it happened and still am . I was still reeling after the succession of deaths/loss of people very close to me too. Objectively it was a roller coaster ride for me with him, starting with being 'conned'out of more than £25000, and forever demanding more of anything from me, lies, deceit and persuading me to put the logbook into his name of my mum's new car when buying it so I don't pay the tourist price etc (luckily i did a separate agreement which is the basis of the court case now) However he also knew that the insurance would be automatically in his name if the log book was - unusual law here gets you every time) Well my insurance company lawyers then worked against me! The case has lasted 3 years so far. He had also conned a lady I met after he had died - we have become good friends now and she has done a statement whereby the police had arrested him and he had to pay back some of the deposit he stole from her for a flat. He was an out and out user but it did not stop me loving him at the time as I was getting indications but not the full picture as I was not living here permanently at the time. His family even tried to get me to pay for his gravestones when my mother and I (she flew out immediately to be with me) attended his funeral in Turkey. When they engraved the dates on the stone, family came to meat the graveside to say I had his age wrong - he had even lied about that - so not my fault they would have had to change the headstone. (karma?).

Most I found out afterwards.(Hindsight and what people have told me since) I was helping him set up a business for us to do. After he died I found out all the excuses he gave for the money were lies and that he had no intention of paying it back as he was an inveterate gambler. The night he died he caused an arguement in order to get the car saying I didn't trust him - which was true by then. He was definitely 'on' something whilst driving as erratic and scary driving nearly killed uson the way home. Not one to take no for an answer - he said he had to see his sister - it was her son's birthday - later I realised he had used the same excuse less than 6 months before! You get so befuddled! Also nightclub here means brothel. There is a lot more. Expensive emotional lessons. I was very vulnerable as just come out of a divorce with another psychopath (also a gambler and womaniser....)who I didn't want to leave me - ie rejection programme and very low self esteem and lack of self respect. (Have been too trusting and very gullible).

I KNOW what psychopathic is now I have read all the books and shared them too! This forum has saved me. I had beenwaiting forpsycho analysis - a lot of help that would have been! It was soul deep deep hurt - they don't deal with that! I have had 4 definite ones as well as the usual manipulators. I choose to stay single now, off the cycle - and lovin' it! A dog is your best friend! More time to learn and help others.
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FWIW. If you were my facebook friend, you could share this persons name, pic, and personal details with me, the details (true details) of what he did, and i would share it with everyone, and ask them to do the same. Perhaps we should all do this, and if it is true, then they cannot sue you for libel,no? We can give a lie what it asks for, and deserves-- THE TRUTH.
Just an idea.
 
davey72 said:
FWIW. If you were my facebook friend, you could share this persons name, pic, and personal details with me, the details (true details) of what he did, and i would share it with everyone, and ask them to do the same. Perhaps we should all do this, and if it is true, then they cannot sue you for libel,no? We can give a lie what it asks for, and deserves-- THE TRUTH.
Just an idea.
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What would be the point in naming/exposing him if he's not in a position to con anyone else?
 
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