A family brawl at Disneyland (Video: bad language)

[Matthew]

That must have been quite some feast for 4D STS!

This was posted on a videogame message board I frequent but it was locked after five pages as there was 'nothing to discuss'. Translation: we are zealous social justice warriors and can't allow anything that puts black people in a bad light to continue. Cynical, I know, but they really are painfully 'woke'. I think we can do better than that!

Whilst watching the video amidst my disbelief at what I was watching and my disbelief that this in-family brawl kept starting up again, I could not help but think of this:

Q: (L) Okay. Now, earlier we had a discussion about crime, the involvement in crime of black people versus white people, and, looking at the numbers, it seems that there is an inordinate number of black people involved in crime or criminal activities, or negatively oriented behavior than white people; the figures are really outstanding: blacks are eight times more likely to commit crimes than whites. And many of the explanations that are used, such as poverty or discrimination do not seem to account for this disparity, considering the poverty and discrimination exhibited toward many other ethnic groups with no such relationship. Is there something significant in this fact, and is there some reason why this condition exists?

Given the above video, it seems like an opportune time to re-read that thread.

Re-watching the video just now with the sound un-muted this time I can't help but feel for the poor children there especially those who have to grow up in that family!

 

[whitecoast]

Looking at this video all I can think of is what a tremendous place Disneyland must be for beaming and mass programming, if their own mass media content is anything to go by.

As for the racial angle you're taking with the fight between the two families, I would suggest that they are all individuals who are making decisions to behave the way they are, whatever "nature-nurture" explanations biological essentialists or social constructivists bring to the table to explain why people behave the way they do.

Race is discussed at some length in the thread on human origins. Peripherally related to this is the thread on criminality, and how we all have some manifestation of criminal thinking that enables us to commit violence.

 

[Matthew]

Apparently, whitecoast, all of the participants in this fight are the same family! I agree with you though that it is ultimately a matter of personal responsibility. After re-reading the session transcript thread I linked to, however, I can't help but feel for those who have a hair trigger temper as that makes them prime fodder for exploitation by 4D STS.

 

[Laura]

Just as the other site noted, there's not really anything to discuss about this. It's one family's dirty laundry on display and it's sad that the one guy had to ruin everybody else's holiday.

 

[Matthew]

Fair enough. The other site seemed to think that the verbal altercation was inflamed by one of the women spitting in the face of the pink shirt man and he immediately retaliated by punching her. I think my fascination with it was my disbelief at how it just kept going and going. None of them seemed to be able to zip their own lips which meant that nobody cooled down and another round of punching ensued. Amygdala hijacks are horrible, I know, but none of them seemed to have any ability to control themselves. I suppose if they had they would not have started with an obviously nasty verbal dispute. I have watched the video several times and I still find it quite shocking. It's just so alien to my personal experience, thankfully. However, it is a salutary lesson to be vigilant. 4D STS may exploit a moment of weakness to stoke the flames of disagreement. I am still struggling to get my head around it tbh. I find verbal disputes upsetting enough. The idea of being involved in something like this is horrifying.

 

[DianaRose]

Fair enough. The other site seemed to think that the verbal altercation was inflamed by one of the women spitting in the face of the pink shirt man and he immediately retaliated by punching her. I think my fascination with it was my disbelief at how it just kept going and going. None of them seemed to be able to zip their own lips which meant that nobody cooled down and another round of punching ensued. Amygdala hijacks are horrible, I know, but none of them seemed to have any ability to control themselves. I suppose if they had they would not have started with an obviously nasty verbal dispute. I have watched the video several times and I still find it quite shocking. It's just so alien to my personal experience, thankfully. However, it is a salutary lesson to be vigilant. 4D STS may exploit a moment of weakness to stoke the flames of disagreement. I am still struggling to get my head around it tbh. I find verbal disputes upsetting enough. The idea of being involved in something like this is horrifying.

Frankly, it's just not that deep. Like Laura said it's one family dirty laundry in public display. Also, there are plenty of people who can't control aspect of themselves. Perhaps, it is their anger they can't control, sometimes it is laziness, greed, or jealousy -- and it can have painful or embarrassing consequences. This is up to the individual and had nothing to do with 4D STS. Besides, if we follow your argument, then it remove any personal responsibility from the individual. I just feel like you're trying to make a point that isn't there. I also can't really understand your argument of black people = violent volcano just based on this video and then bringing up the transcript. It's just random.

As for your site that shut down the thread, to decide if it was truly a case of them acting "woke", it would depend on the nature of the conversation you guys were having.

 

[Scottie]

My favorite part was when the mother rolls her daughter away to respond to crazy guy. Those are some killer mothering instincts there.

I don't think any of them have screws loose. They simply don't have any screws up there to begin with!

 

[Chu]

I just feel like you're trying to make a point that isn't there. I also can't really understand your argument of black people = violent volcano just based on this video and then bringing up the transcript. It's just random.

Same here. Plenty of white families do the same. This one just happens to have been filmed, and in Disney Land. I don't see much more to it than that.

 

[Evan]

My wife and I went to Disneyland last year (it’s only 10 miles from where we live and we’ve been going since we were in strollers. We’ve even had season passes some years), and sadly this is not surprising at all. I will say this though, it seems whenever you hear loud obnoxious swearing, and people yelling to and at each other at Disneyland, when you turn to look, it’s almost always black people. Especially the girls. “Yo Trina! Check this mutha f**kin’ s**t out beotch!”. It’s pervasive. There’s a different kind of filter on the culture, in that to people like myself it appears a total lack of one. Just an observation, and about Disneyland specifically (or the malls in my area). I’ve spent time in other regions and had completely different experiences. But in Southern California this is pretty typical. Fortunately I live in a small beach community which is kind of insulated from the surrounding suburban sprawl. I couldn’t live here otherwise. But going out of my neighborhood is stepping into another world. And it ain’t a pretty one.

 

[Arwenn]

Oh my, what has society degenerated to? What distressed me the most was the little children crying- the adults were so hell bent on thrashing each other, the kids were just left to bawl and bawl their eyes out.

 

[Scottie]

Whilst watching the video amidst my disbelief at what I was watching and my disbelief that this in-family brawl kept starting up again, I could not help but think of this:

I think it IS worth re-reading that session in its entirety, because the C's responses were actually quite interesting. For example:

A: Well, again, you keep asking nearly impossible questions because, you must realize that this is not a simple black and white issue, no pun intended. What it is is trying to answer an extremely difficult question with very simple answers and this will not work because there are so many different directions involved here. There is just an impossible number of difficulties involved in trying to deal with this. Apparently you don't see that it is not something where one can simply formulate an injection, for example, and line up all the members of the black race for this injection. Can you imagine the extreme difficulty in even trying to contemplate such a thing? And, all of the resistance that would be received from every imaginable corner of your society at even the mere suggestion of such a thought? Obviously this is a problem that will only be taken care of at a later time, as you measure time, when the shift from 3rd density to 4th density takes place. There really is no point in trying to climb backwards up the side of a mountain with nothing but your slippery bare feet and hands to work with. That is what you would be trying to do if you tried to answer such a problem so simply.

The above was pretty much the "flavor" of the responses received to the questions asked (which was way back in 1995, aka The Early Days).

It seems that what the C's were trying to get at is that yes, there may be chemical differences between races, but we're not even remotely close to being able to understand such things.

There are also many other reasons for an abnormally high level of crime committed by one race or another, including overly harsh "justice" for relatively minor crimes depending on what rung of the social ladder one is standing on.

IOW, it's frickin' complicated, so one black family having a psychotic brawl at Disneyland isn't really proof of anything except that humans are generally nuts.

So then you might say, "Well, nothing like that every happened in MY family!" And, maybe not... Instead, maybe there was no physical violence, but plenty of covert emotional manipulation and other fun games going on. Is that better or worse?

Having said all that, we're all pretty much in agreement around here that yes, people are getting more and more crazy. There's plenty of evidence for that. Is the above event further evidence? Maybe so. In the end though, it's probably not very useful to make it about race. Just look at Jeffrey Epstein or Hillary Clinton for prime examples of powerful white people who arguably have done more to wreck everything than any black person I can think of.

That doesn't mean I hate white people because they're all evil, or that I love black people because they're all saints, but rather that it's so NOT just about race as society today would have us believe (either in the Left or Right directions).

 

[gdpetti]

It's the norm for the neighborhood you grow up in... the schools you attend... but it's pretty much the same. Abuse becomes the norm and everyone thinks nothing of it... if you step in, they attack you because you aren't 'them', aren't 'family' etc... race doesn't matter so much as this environment you grow up in. There might be some genetic factors involved, but even those have to be epigenetically triggered in the environment you grow up in. Usually this 'stays as home', but in some 'homes' it moves out into the streets, the malls, churches, and yes, even Disneyland where all reality is fake like our favorite tv shows and stars like Trump, and isn't he perfect for the role he plays? LIke this family, he can't stop himself from his tweets, trained by ole Roy Cohn in media relations.... he gets triggered and can't stop himself.

In politics, in Hollywood, in business, it usually takes a different form rather than direct assault, which again seems racial because of he neighborhood, but it used to be the Irish, then the Italians, and now some Mexicans or Asians etc... it depends upon your locale and which group is on the lower economic/social ladder there, as they will be living in more stressed out neighborhoods. But it's always the same and these problems never get solved because the STS types running life here in PUrgatory feed off of negative energy, so they want a specific crop, which is why things are as they are. Some groups are more disconnected from their roots, and many 'white' reactions to this video would be the same for most Africans... it just isn't how things are done back home.... they can't believe what they are seeing... the 'immigrant experience' of moving here and living in the poor neighborhoods where all the stressed out people go because they can't afford to go elsewhere and/or don't know what else to do.. when they do, they get out.... they leave Plato's Cave behind... some love it and choose to stay... most simply don't know any other way... which is why it's so hard to 'wake up', right?

The man in pink... color choice is interesting... notice the phrase he used near the end about being ready to spend the night in jail... something like that.... even if it's just for unpaid parking tickets... as it becomes the norm... and it starts at birth, exposed to it.... triggering all that follows... some are more inclined to express themselves 'out loud', while some groups/races are more inclined to hold it in and do it behind closed doors... the abuse that's only heard about in the news reports that Sott has online... like that Russian one the other day.... the craziness is showing up everywhere it's always been but unseen, unheard or ignored as the 'norm' in that locale.

I remember when it would have been unthinkable if the Fed bailed out the idiots on WallStreet .... and the other central banks of the empire with trillions.... 35 last I heard a couple years ago... and our endless wars haven't stopped since we invaded this country... but that was mostly on the frontier and not reported in the press, except to blame the victims when we had to do whatever we where doing... same today. We complain about the public display of pent up frustration and stress, but ignore the intentional empire building as masses of people are raped and pillaged.... 'white' crimes against humanity... we've been conditioned to think they are the 'norm'... we've gotten used to this type of abuse.... not from stressed out people, but greedy selfish types that see us as sheep to exploit... fleece and cull as they wish, which sort of makes these people seem sane by comparison to all those around them that go about the pasture like sheep, bewildered that any of the herd aren't content with things. It's funny in a way... too late to 'send in the clowns', so they send in the cops to make this distortion in the Matrix go away... back to their regular programming.

 

[SummerLite]

More negative crap happening in California! Disneyland might have some interesting hidden "secrets". A few years ago I read a article that said, the merry-go round thats located at the heart of the park, was located on the intersection of several ley lines.

 

[Matthew]

I think it IS worth re-reading that session in its entirety, because the C's responses were actually quite interesting.

Indeed. I only mentioned that session transcript because when I watched the video the first time [muted] I had a memory of a C's transcript where they said that negros were more prone to violence due to their genetics. Once I re-read it I realised how reductive and inaccurate that memory was! From my point of view I am very glad of this because it is another reminder of just how unreliable one's memory can be.

 

[mamibio74]

[QUOTE = "Laura, post: 808692, membre: 17"]
Comme l’a noté l’autre site, il n’ya vraiment rien à discuter à ce sujet. C'est le linge sale d'une famille exposée et c'est triste que ce gars-là ait dû gâcher les vacances de tout le monde.
[/CITATION]

Yes and it's so sad for the children.