A little wacky,yet one I'd like to share, theory

[DreamGod]

Once you finish the wave series you will have a greater view of what you are talking about. ;)

 

[Apos]

What I've found extremely helpful with that, in addition to the suggested reading, was making some dietary changes. If you haven't already, when you get a chance, you may want to read the life without bread thread. It seems that years of eating things such as gluten and dairy can impede our ability to think - at least that was the case with me. ;)

I actually did notice that thread and I got to say I was surprised. Especially since dairy products and wheat were among the very first consumables that we had as a sophisticated species. :O

My diet never had breat in it to be honest, although it does have milk, namely on the breakfast, which is my main question on what can it be replaced with. Pretty much everything suitable for breakfast has either gluton or a dairy product at least partially.

 

[truth seeker]

I actually did notice that thread and I got to say I was surprised. Especially since dairy products and wheat were among the very first consumables that we had as a sophisticated species. :O

My diet never had breat in it to be honest, although it does have milk, namely on the breakfast, which is my main question on what can it be replaced with. Pretty much everything suitable for breakfast has either gluton or a dairy product at least partially.

Dairy is a big one, but start slowly with the thread (you'll see that it's about much more than bread) and get rid of gluten and dairy first - after awhile, you may come to find that you don't miss them. One good thing to have in the morning is bacon and eggs.

 

[Apos]

Dairy is a big one, but start slowly with the thread (you'll see that it's about much more than bread) and get rid of gluten and dairy first - after awhile, you may come to find that you don't miss them. One good thing to have in the morning is bacon and eggs.

Nah,I'm ok with changing diets. As long as I have alternatives that satisfy my tastes, I can't say I'm attached to my breakfast or food in general as a habit.

But hmmm,bacon and eggs,now that's a tough one at the moment, because I rarely have any time in the mornings when I'm into my university semesters. Pretty often my courses start as early as 09:00 and time for preparing a complete breakfast is limited.

I already don't have gluton in my diet, like I said I never enjoyed bread much. Are there any,faster to prepare,alternatives to the morning milk though? I'll look into into it myself, but right now I can't think of anything.

 

[paralleloscope]

But hmmm,bacon and eggs,now that's a tough one at the moment, because I rarely have any time in the mornings when I'm into my university semesters. Pretty often my courses start as early as 09:00 and time for preparing a complete breakfast is limited.

Get up a bit earlier? I also have to be at school at 9, but used to have work where meeting up was at 6:30 even, so I enjoy the luxury of giving myself an hour to wake up and do my routine in a non stressed tempo. You could prepare the bacon in the oven the evening before where you can make enough for many days. Just fry some eggs (in lard, butter or the excess bacon fat) and throw in the bacon for heating, could take less than ten minutes.

 

[truth seeker]

Dairy is a big one, but start slowly with the thread (you'll see that it's about much more than bread) and get rid of gluten and dairy first - after awhile, you may come to find that you don't miss them. One good thing to have in the morning is bacon and eggs.

Nah,I'm ok with changing diets. As long as I have alternatives that satisfy my tastes, I can't say I'm attached to my breakfast or food in general as a habit.

But hmmm,bacon and eggs,now that's a tough one at the moment, because I rarely have any time in the mornings when I'm into my university semesters. Pretty often my courses start as early as 09:00 and time for preparing a complete breakfast is limited.

I already don't have gluton in my diet, like I said I never enjoyed bread much. Are there any,faster to prepare,alternatives to the morning milk though? I'll look into into it myself, but right now I can't think of anything.

Well, gluten isn't only in bread but in all products containing wheat (cookies, cakes, pies, pancakes, etc.). It's also in grains such as rice.

 

[Mountain Crown]

[quote author=Apos]Are there any,faster to prepare,alternatives to the morning milk though? I'll look into into it myself, but right now I can't think of anything.[/quote]

You could try coconut milk, and maybe boil some eggs the night before.

Baking bacon in the oven is easy and turns out great. I’ve eaten cold bacon strips many times and like them very much.

 

[Apos]

Well, gluten isn't only in bread but in all products containing wheat (cookies, cakes, pies, pancakes, etc.). It's also in grains such as rice.

I'm pretty certain I've read a couple months ago that plain rice(including variants like basmati and exotic black rice) is gluten free, apart from a few pre-packaged ones that contain barley-based flavoring to be honest.

I'll be changing the breakfast for now with some boiled eggs most likely. I don't have any other dairy products in my diet other than on my breakfast. I guess I'll cut down on pasta since it is be my main form of getting gluten.

As for coconut milk. Well,the city I live in is fairly small, so I doubt I'll find anything that even resembles a coconut or its milk around here. :P

 

[Mountain Crown]

I'm pretty certain I've read a couple months ago that plain rice(including variants like basmati and exotic black rice) is gluten free, apart from a few pre-packaged ones that contain barley-based flavoring to be honest.

Gluten is an inclusive term designating proteins in grains. There are various types and all grains have them. You may have read that rice was free from gliadin, which is the gluten of main concern for people with celiac disease.

Since rice has the smallest percentage of gluten compared to the other grains, those with great difficulty removing all grains ate it temporarily as a transition to completely gluten free.


edited for clarlty.

 

[Nienna]

Well, gluten isn't only in bread but in all products containing wheat (cookies, cakes, pies, pancakes, etc.). It's also in grains such as rice.

I'm pretty certain I've read a couple months ago that plain rice(including variants like basmati and exotic black rice) is gluten free, apart from a few pre-packaged ones that contain barley-based flavoring to be honest.

All grains are basically evil. As Jerry said, they all contain proteins that act the same as gluten. And gluten is addictive, which is why so many people will fight to keep them in their diet.

I'll be changing the breakfast for now with some boiled eggs most likely. I don't have any other dairy products in my diet other than on my breakfast. I guess I'll cut down on pasta since it is be my main form of getting gluten.

Cutting down on pasta doesn't do any good. It takes 6 months for gluten to get cleared out of the system. Eating just a crumb of any grain will just keep the health problems going for another 6 months. You can't just eat a little gluten, it's like eating a lot of gluten.

 

[Apos]

So absolutely nothing...well...that's going to be a tough one due to having few alternatives at the moment and not being able to cook my own meals consistently. (like I said, I'm a uni student and most of my meals happen at our restaurant, where it's free for us) More or less, I'm not into the position financially when we take the rent and the bills into account.

My best bet would be to get a copy of the university restaurant program (it cycles between 2 weeks,then repeats itself) and see which ones contain gluten,then get to avoid those days and have my own meals.

Even with that scenario it might be a bit hard,since both grains and also food that includes cream are fairly often in our cuisine.

 

[Nienna]

Even with that scenario it might be a bit hard,since both grains and also food that includes cream are fairly often in our cuisine.

Yes, it's a shame that it's that way, I know. It's actually in just about everything.

But when you look at how obesity, autoimmune diseases, neurological problems, heart disease and more have all sky-rocketed since grains and dairy has taken over the food scene, along with eliminating healthy natural animal fats/meat from our diets, it is fairly evident that something has gone drastically wrong with our eating habits in the last century.

All of this hoopla for a high carb/low fat diet has been the worse thing for people. And nutritionists/dieticians just can't seem to see it. Or they do, and big-ag is buying them off to continue instructing people to eat it. Of course, this also puts money in the pharmaceutical corporations pockets too with all of the diseases people have and are prescribed poisonous drugs to take care of the symptoms. And nutritionists/dieticians keep telling people to continue to keep eating the way they are.

There are some really good articles about gluten on sott.net. Once you start to see what this stuff really does to your whole system, it wakes you up and helps you to really think about what you are eating.

 

[Apos]

Well,modern diets are a whole subject on their own, even when taking gluten in account or not. Wheat in our societies is older than history, but consumerism has made sure that many limits are pushed aside.

As for seeing what gluten does. I won't be surprised really. I mean, our basic element for survival, oxygen, is also what slowly ages and eventually shuts down our organs. It wouldn't come out of the blue if anything else harms our bodies as well.

But ye, gluten is almost everywhere and without an acceptable disposable income, I won't be able to even try and see for myself whether abolishing it makes a difference. But at some point in the future maybe. :)

 

[Gonzo]

Eating out can pose some real problems. However, I have noticed that cafeterias, for example, are becoming more aware of food sensitivities and will modify some things if they are asked nicely. For example, when they have a flame broiled chicken breast on a bun with fries, I ask them instead of they could just put the chicken on a small salad and I smother it in olive oil for added fat.

A lot of times when eating out, one have had no choice but to order things like ham or beef sandwich, and just take the bread and other stuff off. Salads with tuna, salmon or chicken might also be available - top up with a good helping of olive oil and balsamic vinegar. Since many portions are larger than they should be, one won't starve by eatin gonly the good parts of a meal and just pitching out the rest. But bacon is definitely my favorite. I can eat it all day. Sometimes when I come into work, I'll go to the cafeteria and order several portions of bacon, saving some for lunch.

There have been days though, when there is absolutely nothing I can eat. So, I try to have a backup plan.

Gonzo

 

[mkrnhr]

Well,modern diets are a whole subject on their own, even when taking gluten in account or not. Wheat in our societies is older than history, but consumerism has made sure that many limits are pushed aside.

As for seeing what gluten does. I won't be surprised really. I mean, our basic element for survival, oxygen, is also what slowly ages and eventually shuts down our organs. It wouldn't come out of the blue if anything else harms our bodies as well.

But ye, gluten is almost everywhere and without an acceptable disposable income, I won't be able to even try and see for myself whether abolishing it makes a difference. But at some point in the future maybe. :)

That's your choice of course. Even you try to get healthier (physically, emotionally, and mentally) or you continue to feed on what society has been recently programmed to. Agriculture (introduction of grain products) as a historically recent event, was an evolutionary error both for health issues, and for the human society as a whole. A whole body of scientific research is at your disposal in the http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,22916.0.html thread, and in many articles published on SOTT. You study and you decide.

For the eating at the university problem, you can always remove what is harmful and only eat what is healthy. Also, if the serving is the same as at the university I went to in France, you can negotiate to have some products replaced by others. There is always a solution when one has a will.