About Fluoride

[Laura]

I was actually told by laura and others regarding the distilled water, to alkanalize it with sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) and maybe some lemon juice. the baking soda really helps settle out your stomach. :D

I think there may be more minerals involved but this would be good to research in more detail. If you add baking soda, you might want to choose one with no aluminum (such as Bob's Red Mill).

Baking soda (pure sodium bicarbonate) is NOT "baking powder", some versions of which have aluminum.

And yes, taking minerals is important if you use distilled water. I have never had a problem with it and have been drinking it for years.

 

[abstract]

Thanks for the clarification. :)

 

[Nienna]

Hi Nienna Eluch,

Here's a walter filter that filters out fluoride.

_http://waterfilters.mercola.com/products/drinkingwaterfilters.aspx

Hi Bohort,

Thanks for the link.

In the video by Mercola, he states that there is no shower/bath filter that takes out fluoride. And, he is talking about reverse osmosis filter for drinking water.

There are two reasons I have not purchased a RO filter. One, I do not have the counter space and two, reading up on how reverse osmosis works, it takes two to four gallons of water to make one gallon of filtered water. At least that's what it said when I researched it.

Also, this doesn't help with the shower thing.

As for the distilled water filter, abstract, they run, for a one-gallon counter top (that I put on the floor ;)), around $300.00, or so. Here's one for $289.00

_http://www.everythingkitchens.com/waterwise-4000-water-distillers.html

Thanks, Vulcan59 for finding that thread and posting it.

I do take a very good quality vitamin/supplement and I also add a little baking soda to my glass one-gallon containers when I fill them.

 

[LQB]

Thanks, Vulcan59 for finding that thread and posting it.

I do take a very good quality vitamin/supplement and I also add a little baking soda to my glass one-gallon containers when I fill them.

Yes, thanks Vulcan59 for the link/thread. Again, so much seems to go back to the nutrient-denseness and toxic-freeness of what we eat.

 

[Al Today]

The word FLORIDE brings up so many memories for me. In elementary school I was bombarded by those old black & white a-bomb movies saying to "Duck & Cover". On a news reel type movie I'd see, there'd be a big flash, everyone would look to the sky... and run like hell... I remember seeing a few reminders on a SotT net article a while back. When the radioactive dust falls, use a newspaper to cover yourself & you'll be Okay... Yep, that's what they said... Being a young'un around 9 or so, I remember reading that FLORIDE was an important heavy metal for making an A-Bomb...

And now, in those days, also at the same time they pushed FLORIDE as the saviour metal within new fangled toothpaste to cure tooth rot... Give me a break, I thought as a 9 or so year old...

 

[abstract]

In elementary school I was bombarded by those old black & white a-bomb movies saying to "Duck & Cover"

Wow, you lived in a totally different era, Al. We got all the anti-tobacco propaganda shoved in our faces, showing us those (probably fake) pictures of black lungs...sorry to be off topic.

Fluoride for us was one of those things we just took without question, like eating breakfast.

 

[Al Today]

... you lived in a totally different era ...

Seems only to be it was an earlier phase of this great social engineering program we exist within here on this BBM. You will also have remembrances, don't rush getting old.!.!.! Keep your amusement and amazement. The more I "learn" the more things go like that figures.

 

[abstract]

Seems only to be it was an earlier phase of this great social engineering program we exist within here on this BBM.

True. My vocabulary choices were very poor on that one.

Sorry, it's just that I started thinking about black and white movies when you mentioned "duck and cover", so it makes me feel like it was a long, long time ago.

 

[Al Today]

... like it was a long, long time ago. ...

I guess half a century could be construed as a "long" time... :P

 

[abstract]

20 years old over here, bro! I don't know what half a century is!

Oh shoot, we are getting off topic...

Okay, we should probably get back to fluoride, now.

 

[Steve M.]

Re: About Fluoride

While I have mentioned this movie "The Beautiful Truth," a few times recently since seeing it, they touch on the topic a bit in that movie.

From what I understand about Fluoride, and personal experience, it actually does the opposite of what is being stated in the article below. For example if you have cracked teeth (actual lines of cracks in your teeth) and you brush with fluoride, from my experience your going to get a lot of splintering and chipping, and soon. I don't wish dentures on anyone and I have a full upper now. Part of my problem was as a child my cavities were so bad they have to remove the child tooth and the one underneath (or so I was told 7-8 times).

I imagine there are several others here who can back up that the following is nothing but pure propaganda from the fine folks in the ADA (American Dental Association). Then of course there are the Amalgam fillings and mercury (Metal/Gaseous) exposure, the exposure to the dentist's and her/his assistants that is not being monitored/explained to the Dentist or patient. Anyhow, check out all the great benefits of robbing yourself of your health these (Poison) Professionals have to offer.

_http://health.yahoo.net/articles/oral-care/8-things-you-didnt-know-about-toothpaste said:

Faced with dozens of different products promising to make your teeth fresher, whiter and cavity-free, it’s no wonder you wander aimlessly down the toothpaste aisle. To help you pick wisely, we turned to the pros for the scoop on what ingredients to look for, whether gel or paste formulas are right for you and just how much you need to squeeze onto your brush. It’s never too late to get your pearly whites in tip-top shape, so read on to find out how!

1. It’s all about the fluoride.
With a host of ingredients in toothpaste, it’s easy to lose sight of what’s essential. But no matter what your individual needs are (i.e., tartar control, whitening, breath-freshening and so on), dental hygienists agree that fluoride is a must. According to the Academy of General Dentistry, brushing with fluoride toothpaste twice daily can reduce tooth decay by as much as 40 percent. “Even in areas where there is water fluoridation, the added fluoride in toothpaste has been shown to be very beneficial,” says Caryn Loftis-Solie, RDH, president of the American Dental Hygiene Association (ADHA).

2. Look for the seal of approval.
While it’s tempting to save some cash with a generic brand of toothpaste, you may actually be getting an ineffective—and potentially harmful—product. “You should always look for the ADA Seal when choosing a toothpaste,” says Clifford Whall, PhD, director of the American Dental Association (ADA) Seal of Acceptance Program. “Only those products have the scientific data to back up their claims and have been proven to meet our criteria for safety and effectiveness.” With 50-plus approved toothpastes on shelves, it’s easy to find a tube that’s right for you and your budget.

3. Whitening toothpastes work—at least to a certain degree.
Countless products promise a whiter smile, but do they really deliver? “Whitening toothpastes—like all toothpastes—contain mild abrasives to help remove surface stains on your teeth,” says Dr. Whall. “The shape of the particles used in whitening products, though, is modified to clean those stains away better, so you’ll see a noticeable difference in how your teeth look.” However, according to Dr. Whall, these products don’t contain bleach, making it impossible for them to brighten your smile as dramatically as professional whitening treatments.

4. Less is more.
Despite what you see on commercials, a brush full of toothpaste won’t clean your pearly whites any better than half that amount, according to E. Jane Crocker, RHD, president of the Massachusetts Dental Hygienists’ Association. “All you need is a pea-size amount of toothpaste—yes, I mean the little green vegetable!” Not only will that get the job done effectively (by cleaning and removing plaque, stains and food debris), you’ll also extend the life of your tube.

5. How you brush is more important than what you brush with.
You can buy the best toothpaste and toothbrush on the market, but if you aren’t brushing correctly you won’t see results. “To do it properly, you need to position the brush at a 45 degree angle so that you get some of the bristles in between the tooth and the gums,” says Dr. Whall. “Move the brush in small circles in those areas, and then continue on to the rest of the teeth. This process should take about one to two minutes to complete.” View the ADA’s step-by-step guide to brushing and flossing here.

6. Organic toothpastes can be just as effective as regular.
If you’re willing to spend a little more to go green, natural and organic toothpastes can be a good eco-friendly alternative to commercial brands—provided they contain fluoride. “Natural and organic toothpastes that include fluoride in their ingredients are as effective as regular toothpastes with fluoride,” says Crocker. You’ll also be avoiding artificial preservatives, sweeteners and dyes.

7. What’s inside your toothpaste might surprise you.
You may not recognize the names listed on the side of the tube, but ingredients like seaweed and detergent can be found in many fluoride toothpastes. According to the ADA, common thickening agents include seaweed colloids, mineral colloids and natural gums. And for that quintessential foaming action, most products rely on detergents such as sodium lauryl sulfate—also found in many shampoos and body washes—that are deemed 100 percent safe and effective by the ADA.

8. Pastes or gels—they all do the trick.
You may have heard that one works better than the other but, according to the experts, they all clean teeth equally well. “Other than flavor, texture and how it makes a person feel, there aren’t any major differences among the various forms,” says Crocker. “I think it comes down to personal preference, which might come through trial and error. I encourage my patients to use whichever product encourages them to brush.”

I'm no dental professional, but all of the above is absurd, non-fact based (BS!) Propaganda. I do agree with statement 6 in its generalization, but I'll be damned if the toothpaste I use has any fluoride!

http://www.wholywater.com/fluoride.html said:

The devastating, toxic effects of fluoride are well documented by mainstream organizations. The Journal of the American Medical Association (1990-1992) has reported a greater incidence of hip fractures in fluoridated areas in the U.S. and Britain. TheNew England Journal of Medicine (1990) reported that fluoride treatment of osteoporosis patients resulted in higher hip fracture rates. The governmental National Institute of Environmental and Health Sciences (1990) has shown that fluoride causes cancer. Former promoters of fluoridation have since found that fluoridation does not reduce tooth decay (1987-1988). Scientist at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (1989-1993) have come out against fluoridation because they have confirmed that it does not reduce tooth decay and that there is clear evidence that fluoride causes cancer. The American Chemical Society published a 17-page cover story (1988) questioning the safety and effectiveness of fluoridation.

The above quote was from the first link in a yahoo search of: "Toxic affects of Fluoride" who knows how many hits it offered, and if I could spell effects properly, the source of info would have been greater than the hundreds of links I discovered using the typo. :)

Again, in the movie "The Beautiful Truth" there was a report of a group of Asian or Africans who had never used fluoride who had less than a 1% incident of tooth-decay and no Oral hygiene use. Once fluoride and oral hygiene were introduced the population(s) suffered and the increase shot up to 40-60% if I remember correctly. Those people lived a (to my understanding of what it would be) .. a Paleo-Christian diet.

It's interesting.
Good health to you!

 

[davey72]

I also came across this.


# Avoid drinking black or red tea.
There are many health benefits associated with chemical compounds found in tea, but this may be a beverage to avoid if you need to reduce your fluorine intake. Black and red tea come from two different types of plants, but both leaves naturally contain high amounts of fluorine.

# Be wary of tinned fish and canned food items.
Fluoride may be used as a preservative.

# Avoid black or red rock salt or items containing black or red rock salt.

# Avoid using chewing tobacco.

 

[shijing]

Hi davey72 --

Just wanted to let you know that I removed your other new thread about fluoride since you repeated the same information here.

 

[WhiteBear]

Federal Government Lowers Fluoride Amount In Water To Still Too Much

AP EXCLUSIVE: US says too much fluoride in water

Love this line about halfway through:
"Fluoridation has been fought for decades by people who worried about its effects, including conspiracy theorists who feared it was a plot to make people submissive to government power."

 

[crazycharlie]

Re: Federal Government Lowers Fluoride Amount In Water To Still Too Much

I think they simple do not want or need to spend any more cash on this
and it has done its job ....