"Adolf Hitler - The greatest story never told!"

Psalehesost

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An interesting revisionist WWII documentary has been passed around on Facebook: _http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL14336C517D31C52D (parts are still being made by the documentary maker - as of now, there are 20 parts).

The really good thing about it is the broader historical perspective it brings. It gives a stark picture of the machinations generally not gone into on the other sides of the conflict. In viewing it with additional knowledge in mind, it becomes clear that the events surrounding and including WWII was a game played by psychopaths on all sides.

In so digesting the information, I was struck by how cartoonish the view in official culture is on the matter of Nazi Germany - with such exclusive emphasis on its evilness that the result is a lack of historical comprehension. The inhumanity and the pathology is there, to be sure - and so it is on all the other sides of the conflict as well. As one example, American forces starving one and a half million Germans taken prisoner - including civilians - to death in camps set up for a time in Germany after the capitulation at the end of the war. In also showing something of the more human side of the Wehrmacht, it likewise - to the viewer with knowledge of ponerology - makes clear, upon reflection, that the real conflict was indeed one of normal people with principles and conscience - present on all sides - and the inhuman element - likewise present on all sides.

As Nazi Germany became less cartoonish, the historical parallels with today became even clearer. Another effect of the documentary was a loss of lingering faith and identification with the narratives of official culture that I didn't even know was there. In the end I had simply seen too much that contradicts the standard narrative, sometimes in shocking ways, and some remaining "thing" inside gave way. But in order to get there, I first had to watch a couple of parts at a time, digest, and several times deal with cognitive dissonance - additional knowledge and perspective serving to arrive at a good synthesis.

As a caveat, the bad thing about the documentary is the line of force of the presentation, best taken with a grain of salt - additional knowledge kept in mind. In short, the maker of the documentary seems to be somewhat fascinated by and admiring and uncritical of Hitler, the Nazi administration and the Third Reich. In the documentary itself, this is, in places, manifested in the points of emphasis and/or the "tone" in dealing with these things, though it remains factual. (Outside of the documentary, the maker reveals his bias in some of his comments in discussion on YouTube, as well as, in looking at the videos on one of his previous YouTube accounts, deephiddentruth, the several tributes to Hitler that he has made.)

All in all, I'd say it's very much well-worth watching. With the standard historical narrative presented from the Zionist point of view, seeing a documentary presented from the "other side", with much information generally omitted, was interesting.

To understand Nazi Germany more throroughly, I'm reading Sebastian Haffner's Defying Hitler (thread; there's also articles and excerpts on SOTT) - while perhaps a peculiar combination, it seems a good supplement to this documentary.
 
Re: "Adolf Hitler - The greatest story never stold!"

Psalehesost said:
An interesting revisionist WWII documentary has been passed around on Facebook: _http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL14336C517D31C52D (parts are still being made by the documentary maker - as of now, there are 20 parts).

Thank you Psalehesost, looks like a thing worth watching.

But only part 8 is available in France (by mistake, I guess). Luckily, there is another YT channel with that documentary; so for those who can't access it from P's link here it is:

_http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL44731128736C3253
 
I've started watching this documentary and have to agree on it being very interesting in that, among other things, it provides information I wasn't aware of before - however I do need to read up on other related material like e.g. Haffner's book in order to widen my perspective on the topic.

Psalehesost said:
The really good thing about it is the broader historical perspective it brings. It gives a stark picture of the machinations generally not gone into on the other sides of the conflict. In viewing it with additional knowledge in mind, it becomes clear that the events surrounding and including WWII was a game played by psychopaths on all sides.

In so digesting the information, I was struck by how cartoonish the view in official culture is on the matter of Nazi Germany - with such exclusive emphasis on its evilness that the result is a lack of historical comprehension. The inhumanity and the pathology is there, to be sure - and so it is on all the other sides of the conflict as well.

(...) it likewise - to the viewer with knowledge of ponerology - makes clear, upon reflection, that the real conflict was indeed one of normal people with principles and conscience - present on all sides - and the inhuman element - likewise present on all sides.

Agree on your above made points. I've only begun watching it, but already it brings home - yet again - how a deliberately orchestrated lack of historical comprehension is all around us, the implications of which are staggering, to say the least.

It might not seem related, but as I've also been reading In Broad Daylight by Harry N. MacLean, and seeing how the population of a small town can be so influenced by what the media/official culture says/spreads about them, i.e. the narratives it is creating for others that are then taken as gospel and how this reverberates on the population's behaviour and way of dealing or rather non-dealing with their experiences in an objective way, one thought that's lingering with me currently is the effect on the German population of all that transpired, and on being the collective bearer of the evil shadow, which to this day is showing its effects e.g. in that the taboo here to even talk about a zionist agenda is very strong.

Psalehesost said:
As Nazi Germany became less cartoonish, the historical parallels with today became even clearer. Another effect of the documentary was a loss of lingering faith and identification with the narratives of official culture that I didn't even know was there. In the end I had simply seen too much that contradicts the standard narrative, sometimes in shocking ways, and some remaining "thing" inside gave way. But in order to get there, I first had to watch a couple of parts at a time, digest, and several times deal with cognitive dissonance - additional knowledge and perspective serving to arrive at a good synthesis.

Thanks for sharing this specific bit, Psalehesost. I'm also already finding those signs in me which I know from other areas to be an indicator that I need to work myself through a theme psychologically/emotionally - for something is definitely up, has been stirred in watching this material.

Psalehesost said:
As a caveat, the bad thing about the documentary is the line of force of the presentation, best taken with a grain of salt - additional knowledge kept in mind. In short, the maker of the documentary seems to be somewhat fascinated by and admiring and uncritical of Hitler, the Nazi administration and the Third Reich. In the documentary itself, this is, in places, manifested in the points of emphasis and/or the "tone" in dealing with these things, though it remains factual.

I agree with your caveat. In the beginning I especially found myself really disturbed by the musical background eliciting a constant somewhat positive emotional and/or emotionally moving baseline, which was like being tuned into the film maker's slant against one's will - similar to how other movies, documentaries, ads are influencing via emotional impact - and several times I had to make a conscious effort to listen to the words spoken while separating it from the emotional influence of the music.

On a different note, part 6 is unavailable for viewing in my country, and I wonder why, and if somebody could let me know what the contents of part 6 is?
 
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Psalehesost said:
An interesting revisionist WWII documentary has been passed around on Facebook: _http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL14336C517D31C52D (parts are still being made by the documentary maker - as of now, there are 20 parts).

Thank you Psalehesost, looks like a thing worth watching.

But only part 8 is available in France (by mistake, I guess). Luckily, there is another YT channel with that documentary; so for those who can't access it from P's link here it is:

_http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL44731128736C3253

That's the older account of the author that I mentioned - and, unfortunately, only goes up to part 13. But I just saw that the original - and still older - account (which I remember reading was banned but apparently later unbanned - he's apparently had some problems with YouTube censorship) has another playlist going up to part 19. So that might be another to try for the later parts, or any others there are problems with.

_http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvNR4gHZRiE9yJErKmxqIIPP0hEMO7OfB

Aiming said:
Psalehesost said:
As a caveat, the bad thing about the documentary is the line of force of the presentation, best taken with a grain of salt - additional knowledge kept in mind. In short, the maker of the documentary seems to be somewhat fascinated by and admiring and uncritical of Hitler, the Nazi administration and the Third Reich. In the documentary itself, this is, in places, manifested in the points of emphasis and/or the "tone" in dealing with these things, though it remains factual.

I agree with your caveat. In the beginning I especially found myself really disturbed by the musical background eliciting a constant somewhat positive emotional and/or emotionally moving baseline, which was like being tuned into the film maker's slant against one's will - similar to how other movies, documentaries, ads are influencing via emotional impact - and several times I had to make a conscious effort to listen to the words spoken while separating it from the emotional influence of the music.

I think that this - along with the information - is another significant factor in the impressions building up into bouts of cognitive dissonance as I watched. However, in the longer term, given critical reflection (including further material), I don't think it is particularly harmful, perhaps even the opposite: Having now experienced being identified with and against both "sides" and seen through both identifications, all such identification begins to look arbitrary and meaningless - a charade. Dealing with this and the accompanying dissonance kind of develops an immunity - and that might well be part of the ultimate effect I noted in the first post, in combination with knowing to a larger extent the scale of historical distortion.

Aiming said:
On a different note, part 6 is unavailable for viewing in my country, and I wonder why, and if somebody could let me know what the contents of part 6 is?

It begins: "In only two days the human rights of the German minorities [in Poland] and the dispute over Danzig and the corridor, has turned into World War two. [...]"

There is coverage (including graphic) related to the massacre of ethnic Germans, then coverage of war developments alongside mentions of some key political events. A mention of the French and British concern over a German expansion which could possibly threaten their own empires, and a look at the size of these empires. Brief coverage of further war developments leading up to Allied forces being cornered by Germany. And then the defeat of France, with coverage of Hitler turning the tables on the former treaty signing at the end of WWI; he had long desired to "wipe out" this "shame of the past".

Then the focus turns to Britain: "Secret government pages reveal Germany's many attempts at peace, sent through secret channels to the innermost cabinet members.

In fact the British received over two dozen peace offers between 1939 and 1941, despite their desperate financial and military situation.

The new Prime Minster Winston Churchill however would have none of it.

Although he is aware that England cannot defeat Germany alone, he will do his utmost to drag the USA into the war.

It will however mean the eventual loss of the British empire."

Coverage finally turns to Hitler's expressed reluctance in attacking England, Goering then convincing him to give the go-ahead for airborne attacks, which would fail. The part ends with war footage.
 
Aiming said:
On a different note, part 6 is unavailable for viewing in my country, and I wonder why, and if somebody could let me know what the contents of part 6 is?

I've recently tried and had a positive experience with this free VPN which enables one to bypass such limitations if you feel comfortable using it: _http://www.softether.org/1-features

It is relatively intuitive: Download, install and select which country you want to pretend you're in.
 
Thank you for posting this documentary here, Psalehesost. I've watched it about a month ago and recently saw part 20 and 21. It really got me to think and contemplate a lot, especially since I was raised in Germany and my historical education in school about WWII was basically very "guilt ridden" with no room for questioning anything (In fact you can get arrested if you question the Holocaust in Germany, which should be a red flag to begin with. Why does truth need to be protected by law? It should stand on its own and withstand any form of inquiry and investigation.)

When I was 16 I went with my class to the Dachau concentration camp close to Munich (back then it was mandatory for every student of our high school (Gymnasium) to visit a concentration camp), where we saw all these pictures of dead Jews that were supposedly gassed, which now turn out to be victims of Typhus, which was very common back then. This been confirmed by other researchers as well when I looked more into it.

I certainly still don't think that Adolf Hitler was just a "good guy" and it can be argued that this documentary paints a bit of a too favorable image of Hitler, but then again, considering how much we've been lied too about history, I found it did provide a balanced view overall, if seen in the right context and locked at with other material as well. There were many historical facts I wasn't aware of at all and certainly not taught in school.

I just wrote a blog reflecting some of the thoughts and insights that came up after watching this documentary. All parts (21 so far) are posted in there a well as some other videos from other researchers that relate to this topic:
http://veilofreality.com/2013/04/25/history-lies-and-the-importance-of-self-work-and-critical-thinking/
 
Thanks all for sharing this and for your comments. I've watched as far as part 5 as well as some of the other videos you linked to in your blog Spiral Out. I'm trying to watch it slowly and take it in since I spent most of my time at school dissociated and I particularly didn't like history which has completely changed in the last few years :D

For example, with what you mention above about guilt trips for Germans, Spiral Out, although I didn't know the ins and outs of the world wars, I have, ever since hearing about the holocaust, always had a kind of a "Don't mention the war" sense with German people. Like it's something you shouldn't talk about. "It happened and that's that," kind of thing. The prefect way to never get at the truth if we can't talk about it...

I can see where the whole issue of cognitive dissonance comes into it too. My impressions are the following on this. At several moments I've caught myself enjoying the music and, I dare admit, admiring some of the things Hitler did which made me uncomfortable. I think this is where knowledge of Political Ponerology and cognitive dissonance are important. Because without them, I can see the average person, with black and white thinking, will watch it and maybe experience what I've just mentioned, over-identify with their "enjoyment," end up feeling guilty and either, close the browser and miss out on a chance to gain some objective knowledge or, they'll watch it and say: "Hmm, interesting...but Hitler is still evil," which will amount to blocking out the knowledge also...

"Selection and substitution of data," in Lobaczewski's words.

So yes, I'm looking forward to watching the rest of this. I get the feeling that the following from Political Ponerology is relevant:

An observer watching such a union's activities from the outside and using the natural psychological world view will always tend to overestimate the role of the leader and his allegedly autocratic functions. The spellbinders and the propaganda apparatus are mobilized to maintain this erroneous outside opinion. The leader, however, is dependent on the interests of the union, especially the elite initiates, to an extent greater than he himself knows. He wages a constant position-jockeying battle; he is an actor with a director. In macrosocial unions, this position is generally represented by a more representative individual not deprived of certain critical faculties; initiating him into all those plans and criminal calculations would be counterproductive. In conjunction with part of the elite, a group of psychopathic individuals hiding behind the scenes steers the leader, the way Bormann and his clique steered Hitler.

I guess the above quoted part explains in part why the producer seems to have some admiration for Hitler. In order to play his part, he must have had some apparently normal traits to be so widely accepted by so many (as well as a bunch of powerful bankers pulling his strings).

I have yet to learn more of this Bormann psychopath (like I said, my knowledge of history is improving!) but already, he's giving me bigger chills than Hitler has...
 
It is very painful for me watching this documentary (I have watched seven parts so far). I am not sure whether it has to do with my illusions and buffers that go up in smoke, or whether the pain is caused by the realization that it is even worse than I had expected. It is easy to blame it all on Hitler and the nazis. This documentary shows that the evil was everywhere. Germans being slaughtered in Poland, First Americans slaughtered at Wounded Knee in the US, Truman that joined the KKK, Roosevelt that refused to abolish lynching, oh Jesus. :cry:

I am wondering ATM whether books like 'Defying Hitler' would have to be read with this new information in mind? Or I am showing cognitive dissonance here? Could it be possible that authors of the books that are on our reading list are also victims of this revision of history? Don't know, but these questions come to mind.

Added:
I do find the music annoying, because it distracts me. Also, they do not show important, historical photographs and footage on their own, but in combination with text, which also distracts me from paying attention to the photographs.
 
As a outsider to german picture, I watched 6 episodes and wondering why am I watching this .
All the pathology, intricacies of the victors and losers are painfully covered in "controversy of zion". http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,3026.0.html
I am wondering whether you guys read this book ?.
 
I suppose they are going to not tell of the treatment of Germans in this country (U.S.) after and during WW11 and the people immigrating?

My great great grandfather told me about a lot of the treatment he had, just because of his last name and of being of German heritage. He actually had to change his name to sound more "English."

He refused to fight against his 'own people (our family in Germany),' however he joined the U.S. military, because at the time, that was the only way to show that you loved America (if you were German, people naturally hated you).

Because of that, they assigned him to ship weapons by way of the Alaskan Highway, which as he said 'was pretty much a death sentence.'

He survived to tell it all, so at least they did not put him up in the interment camps like they did the Japanese.

In other words, I enjoyed the series. Sorry if I am off topic.
 
I only watched the first 15 minutes and I intend to watch some more, but so far I'm pretty turned off at the sentimental music and such when exploring Hitler's youth. I know there are lies all around in WWII (from the US, England, Zionists, etc), but Hitler was a nasty creature that contributed to the evils of that time too.
 
Renaissance said:
I only watched the first 15 minutes and I intend to watch some more, but so far I'm pretty turned off at the sentimental music and such when exploring Hitler's youth. I know there are lies all around in WWII (from the US, England, Zionists, etc), but Hitler was a nasty creature that contributed to the evils of that time too.

That part's definitely a put off, its like they've gone real lengths to re-package Hitler. What I always found odd though is the the dropping of the A-bomb in 2 Japanese cities under Truman, isn't any less perverse than what happened under Hitler, but Hilter in the modern psyche is akin to Satan, and Truman's just another "great" president. In some ways burning near 400,000 innocent people to death (effects of the bomb) is a ramp up of perversion.

Anyway, something of interest regarding Hilter is how his rise and contiual support was funded by the Catholic Church. I'm not certain of the accuracy of this claim, bit it's something I came across recently: _http://one-evil.org/content/people_20c_hitler.html
 
alkhemst said:
Renaissance said:
I only watched the first 15 minutes and I intend to watch some more, but so far I'm pretty turned off at the sentimental music and such when exploring Hitler's youth. I know there are lies all around in WWII (from the US, England, Zionists, etc), but Hitler was a nasty creature that contributed to the evils of that time too.

That part's definitely a put off, its like they've gone real lengths to re-package Hitler.
The amount of minimization of nazi atrocities as a necessary evil, glorification of hitler as a savior , projecting politics of the opponent as a justification for painting hitler as a innocent victim made me UNEASY. The narration and repeating music was very effective as long as one doesn't question the validity of the argument. this sounded to me like propaganda.

What I always found odd though is the the dropping of the A-bomb in 2 Japanese cities under Truman, isn't any less perverse than what happened under Hitler, but Hilter in the modern psyche is akin to Satan, and Truman's just another "great" president. In some ways burning near 400,000 innocent people to death (effects of the bomb) is a ramp up of perversion.
It boils down to whether the viewer is aware of the atrocities/politics/pathologies of the Allied forces. If viewer is aware of them, that is just another information, if not, that becomes exciting revelation, soothing for the people who suffered from imposed guilt. that is where "controversy of zion" is a valuable book( I think) in informing hitler is only a part of the show.

In the end, WWII is a like elephant. Nazi's are launch pad for today's atrocities through spy agencies,sexual revolutions, media propaganda, false flags, presidential dupe heads, god knows what type of genetic engineering going on.
 
seek10 said:
It boils down to whether the viewer is aware of the atrocities/politics/pathologies of the Allied forces. If viewer is aware of them, that is just another information, if not, that becomes exciting revelation, soothing for the people who suffered from imposed guilt. that is where "controversy of zion" is a valuable book( I think) in informing hitler is only a part of the show.

In the end, WWII is a like elephant. Nazi's are launch pad for today's atrocities through spy agencies,sexual revolutions, media propaganda, false flags, presidential dupe heads, god knows what type of genetic engineering going on.

It does appear that most of the major conflicts are mere puppet shows for the masses. Not unlike Orwell's constant war with it's clockwork regularity of swapping enemy with ally. Another aspect of the link above (by a guy called Frank O'Collins), proposes that WWII was masterminded by the Vatican, who had some ritualistic sacrifice as part of the agenda as well as profiteering by being on both sides of the conflict. It does indicate another level not really explored in this video series, but as I said, I'm not sure of the accuracy of what he's saying, but it's a compelling perspective nonetheless. Would be interested if anyone thinks this guy's way off or not. _http://one-evil.org/content/acts_vatican_holocaust.html
 
Fwiw, my review starts from reading from both sides of this dark history, with the implications of the treaty of Versailles upon the German people, likened to sowed seeds for a future event engineered to happen. I wanted to exit the revisionist documentary after the first few episodes. However, gave it its due to the end of episode 19 whereby it seemed to end after the bunker scene and cyanide endings. The film seemed to used Hollywood clips to aid, along with soothing and dramatic music, the period paramilitary costumes of the youth and faithful, the great national oratories to the masses, along with the father savor figure came in clear and yet, too, darkness fell upon all who participated from all sides - some of the scenes are not repeatable. During the good times of the latter thirties, powers in the world, especially Hitler's, were fixed on armament manufacturing, waiting for a day to come, an excuse to make it all so. They did not just decide one day late in 1939 high in the Bavarian Alps to have a mass arsenal, these things took time to stamp out in planning and not just in Germany - the financiers, international or otherwise along with the manufactures helped all sides and played all sides.

The Protocols of Zion indeed ink out onto this map of this sick time and they know no country or allegiance and think nothing of using anyone for any purpose. From massacre after massacre their fingerprints were there. Facts exist from the forests of Katyn, to the camps of Dachau, and to the fire bombings of Dresden, not to mention the atomic detonation at Hiroshima and Nagasaki – madness knows no limits when psychopaths are in control.

The film seemed to suggest that there was a civilized aspect to the Weimar Republic’s thrusts to reclaim lands and reunify their peoples without a hint of a master race (yet the facts show what many thought and did), accepting of all people of different faiths and origins except for one people, the Zionist. While on the march through the north, they were seen as the helping hand and the Reds the unconscious butchers. What can be said in favor of what happened in Russia, to their people or more so, to their annexed people. I mean some 30 – 60 million people were put into the ground or in camps which has to have a geneses somewhere, with someone - the acts in the Ukraine and elsewhere were unforgivable, inhuman, and this is described painfully well in the old documentary film called 'Red Empire'. Then in Moscow, whether digging out the Volga Canal or building the subways, many many died under an authoritarian boot. The film showed glimpses of atrocities of the west, too, to the Indian peoples et al., it showed the British empire and what they did, and these are ugly truths, they happened.

Every country in war or its aftermath will have their forms of propaganda, some leaning to more truth than others, and in this respect, there may be some objective truths in the film, however, I do not see this as exceptionally different; yes the Versailles treaty was rotten and fueled anger, why would it not. Ultimately there are predators on all sides looking out for themselves and care nothing for humankind and will carry out the lowliest acts and manipulations. Who cared more for all then, was it Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Churchill, Emperor Hirohito/Shōwa, Roosevelt or Truman? Perhaps in some ways some cared at some point and then the madness entered their minds and it gave them a shove - you shall know them by their fruits.

War is death period and who always pays for their wars is the same across the world - regular people.

Anyway, my 2 cents.

Edit: just wanted to add in the economic part about the mass amount of people going back to work, eating well, "happy times". Many things were built during this period it is true, highways and such, yet the infrastructures for this empire, the tools of war, accounted for much of this, as does the same happen everywhere war is built upon. In this respect, war footings create jobs and that is no measure of success.
 
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