"Adolf Hitler - The greatest story never told!"

Pob said:
jasminum said:
I have installed the program, I am really dull, but I have no idea how to use it, even though I tried my best. I cannot find, where I can possibly select which country I am in. Maybe you could give me some instructions about how to do a configuration. If it is too complicated to do it in written here, then do not bother, I will go without it. :)
By the way, if I manage to run the program, which country would you recommend me to be in. France perhaps?

Sorry Jasminum. - it's not you - I made a rather important omission here. :-[

I should have directed you to _http://www.vpngate.net/en/howto_softether.aspx#windows which provides instructions how to use the software (with included plugin) to connect to VPN's.

If you want to try it, first uninstall any versions currently on your pc and follow the steps above.

As to which country, I would think most outside the country you're currently being blocked in world work.

Thanks a lot. Let's see how it goes this time. :)
 
Had a chance in the last few days to read from a book recommended to me here on the forum a number of years ago called 'The Psychology of Dictatorship' (1950) by G. M. Gilbert, Ph.D., who was a prison psychologist at Nuremberg. Now as far as histories go, one needs to be very careful, as many have learned, with the threads to discern fact from fiction. History, being written by the victors, does indeed pose problems.

Anyway, this author cites some very interesting psychological back stories and assessments of the human and physical structures, both ideological and psychological (pathologically speaking) to some of the architects of the facade being sold. He describes very interesting happenings between Hitler and Goering for instance, who essentially could not exist without the other in this power structure. Goering psychological hygiene as a child is frightful and can be seen in his later actions. He and Hitler underwent the classic law of attraction and feed on each others egoism and desires for power as they each saw it.

What is scarey, are some of the methods that were applied into shaping their new worldview upon the people as a false socialism under the guise of their often very personal greed, and as such, the parallels to our present day leaders and those behind them who maneuver the pieces, seems just the same - verbatim.

The author does reinforce the careful pandering to the industrialist hawks who were looking for a ticket, and as history shows, these hawks existed not just in Germany or of German nationality. The 'Treaty of Versailles' is discussed with anecdotal quotes from people like Goering. My thoughts, and i said them before, is that this Treaty seemed a planned calculated long term "seed" of some sort. How it played out was with Hitler and his gang as history shows. Were there others pushing for the same outcome from outside, like the global banking cartels? Evidence seems to support this, although the author, at this point, has not yet discuss this and may not.

That being said, i trouble with the film reviewed for its ability to paint a picture that in many aspects shows the manipulations by, lets say 'The West', and then does a job on presenting nationalism (overcoming the seeds of Versailles) and the atrocious deeds of others; with a number of observable truths (lies and truths). The film seems to want to present the idea of 'clean hands' and the 'Right' to do what was done, while not looking at the psychological underpinnings of those in power demanding these rights and manipulating people. These things clearly, osit, have to be also seen in the actions of non German players who came out during and after the war with the "moral authority" for their often gross reactionary deeds.

Whatever the case, on all sides, it seems, depending on who was doing it or receiving it, a propagandists dream - for the likes of Goebbels and his counterparts in the west, and an all-around human worst nightmare. As many readers have recently been studying Caesar in a new light, one realizes, osis, that the elect and elite do not carry anyone's interests other than their own at heart, and if they do, it is the exception (as is the apparent case of Caesar)and not the rule.

From what has been read of this book so far, it seems a good counterbalance to the varied views (not all) depicted in this film and would recommend it - i'll try and post some pertinent extracts when time permits.
 
I was only able to watch 1-4 and 6-12. 5 was unavailable and my BS detector prevented me from finishing the series.

The truth is such a tangled mess (most assuredly by design) that even those who participated and were first hand witnesses are incapable of telling the truth as it really was. They can only tell it as they truly saw it. There is a difference. Most never wanted to be truthful anyway.

WW 2 fascinated me for years. It was a time when "evil" was apparently allowed to reign unchecked on all sides. It manifested in different forms, played out in different ways, but the result was the same. Death, death, and more death.

There was a time that I was absolutely convinced that the a-bomb was a miracle that ended the war. As I see it now, it was pure ego driven by hate and fear.

The Allies were no longer at war with the Nazi's and we had a complete stranglehold on Japan. I don't know what would have been considered more humane, death by starvation or the a-bomb, but we did not have to invade mainland Japan to end the war like we were told. People use North Korea as an argument to say that a starving populace does not equal an insurrection of the people but that is in a whole different context. Japanese generals already had an active coup in the works.

"We" were made to hate the Japanese and to fear the Russians. The a-bomb was a warning to Russia and little more.

This is how I have come to see it though I doubt it's even a quarter of the truth. The quest continues....
 
I watched the whole thing last weekend and I have seldom had such a strong emotional response to any film or documentary. I totally agree that the annoying music was intended to trigger such emotions, but for me the main reason might be due to me being German and my deceased grandfather having been a "Nazi-Soldier" and prisoner in Russia for I think 5 years. He was one of the few that were released and returned home. On his return - my grandmother often tells me - he was only skin and bones, weighing only 70 kilos at 1,9m height. So you might be able to imagine how it felt watching the scenes of the German soldiers returning from imprisonment. I was actually – kind of unintentionally - trying to find him in the crowd!

Now what was especially hard to endure for me was the apparent justification and glorification - as has been said before - of the Nazi regime's or Hitler's deeds. Me having been properly inculcated from young years to not question anything regarding the official history books version of WW2 and to just accept that we carry a heavy guilt as the "German people" was shocked to see all of it presented in such sympathetic fashion. On the other hand some of the presented views (or evidence?) led to a better understanding of WHY the German people welcomed this whole development after WW1.

I realized that I never had any real understanding of this WHY. I mean of course I learned a lot about WW2 let alone in school. In 8th grade my school class even had a student exchange with a Polish class and on one occasion we visited the Auschwitz camps. In fact, I went inside the gas chamber that was showed in the documentary! The one with the chimneys that - according to the author - supposedly were installed AFTER the war was over! Also I have never heard that the Polish were doing massacres on Germans in Poland... and so on.

Anyway, I see how this documentary can be quite dangerous to naive people or the ones having a tendency to the political right. But as has also been said before, through trying to remain objective while watching it, this film can be useful to view "the other side of the coin" and find out some aspects that one did not consider before. Especially for me and probably many other Germans there is this barrier that has to be overcome to see any plausibility in the behavior in these days or the complicity and evil doings of the other involved nations.

To come to an end; I also watched the other recommended documentary to balance out my emotional state – @Psalehesost: I totally agree with your remark about the omissions in both films - and reread Laura’s article referring to it. A while ago I bought Haffner’s books, but have not been able to read them yet. I read some parts of the Controversy of Zion, but did not have the opportunity and motivation to really get into it, but I hope to get there!
 
I just finished watching half of this, and I am intrigued. However, I really would like to learn the truth as I am sure many here do. What really happened?

I need to go back, but what was the explanation for Germany taking Czechoslovakia?

I have never heard that Germans were being persecuted in Poland. Nor have I heard about all of the peace offerings.

I did take note of the Soviet General explaining rape on the battlefield. Did anyone notice that he was talking about the practice of soldiers having sex with women rather than raping them? He was saying soldiers having sex with woman was no big deal. Nowhere did the subtitles say that he said raping was no big deal. I have a russian friend, and I am dying to hear the real translation. If they are manipulating this fact then that takes away from the credibility of the presentation.

Is there a internet resource that criticizes the actual facts presented in this film?

Thanks!
 
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Seems to me that this guy, Dennis Wise, could be way too much apologetic for any standard about Hitler. Who is he??

_http://12bytes.org/articles/history/adolf-hitler-the-greatest-story-never-told-an-interview-with-the-filmmaker

Then Part 27 caption of his video series(!):

Babylon Before Hitler - Bonus. Adolf Hitler was a man of high morals and proved it by cleaning up the depraved streets of the Marxist cesspit otherwise known as Berlin.

Very likely the videos are banned from Youtube and google because they contain hours of copyrighted material.
Could it be a marketing campaign, preparing the Web to support the recent rise of nazism in Ukraine?
 
Hitler's Personal ‘Mein Kampf' Edition Sells for $20,000 in US
http://sputniknews.com/art_living/20160319/1036596359/hitler-mein-kampf.html

More than a dozen people were determined to obtain the desired lot during an auction in the United States, media reported.

The exclusive edition owned by Adolf Hitler and discovered in his apartment was ultimately sold for $20,655 on Friday in Chesapeake City, Maryland. The book was apparently kept by the Nazi leader for personal purposes.

The book had been found by American soldiers during an inspection of Hitler's apartment in 1945. To confirm its authenticity, eleven US servicemen put their signatures on its flyleaf and since then the book has been kept by the daughter of one of the soldiers.

Organizer of the auction Bill Panagopoulos said that the controversy surrounding the book is not a reason to keep it away.
The most important thing is that we do not repeat the sins of the past, Panagopoulos said.

In early January, Germany started to sell copies of a heavily annotated version of "Mein Kampf" for the first time in 70 years.

Some teachers even suggested including the book in the school curriculum in order to explain to children what extremism is and to protect them from following radical ideas.


It’s Official: Germany Prints New Edition of Mein Kampf
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160102/1032591748/germany-mein-kampf-republishing.html

A Munich-based publisher, The Institute for Contemporary History, is republishing Nazi leader Adolf Hitler’s semi-autobiographical book “Mein Kampf” in Germany, with a $63 retail price.

According to the publisher, the book explains "lies, half-truths and vicious tirades," behind Hitler's Nazi racist hostility that led to tens of millions of deaths in World War II. At the end of the war, the copyright for the book was transferred by the Allies to German Bavaria.

The original "Mein Kampf" copyright expired on the last day of 2015, allowing republication of the polarizing book in Germany.

German historians, intent on remembering the lessons of the past, considered the republication of the book as their duty.

The publication of a new edition of the notorious book "seeks to thoroughly deconstruct Hitler's propaganda in a lasting manner and thus to undermine the still effective symbolic power of the book," according to the Institute for Contemporary History.

Hitler detailed his intent in two volumes written between 1924 and 1926, prior to the rise of the Nazis.

Republication or redistribution of the original 600-page version of the book in the German language was previously banned by a German court.

This is the first new edition of the book since 1945 printed in German, although other copies of the polemic have circulated worldwide and the book is available online.
 
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