again a black helicopter

I've read somewhere that there is a Grey underground base in Southwestern Germany (Swabian mountains are there).
 
Medulin said:
I've read somewhere that there is a Grey underground base in Southwestern Germany (Swabian mountains are there).

Hi Medulin, it's always helpful to give a source when making such statements. Otherwise the forum becomes filled with "I read somewhere" statements or "I heard once that" statements which are not very useful.
 
Hi Pashalis,

in your report you did not mention any time of day of your experience. Did you compare the place of your sighting with the "Chart of Night Low Flying System Germany"??
(_http://www.mil-aip.de/pams/charts/enr/ET_ENR_6_02_en.pdf)

Did you examine the contemplable helicopter bases and the low-altitude flight exercise regulations in Germany? There is much to read here:
"Militärisches Luftfahrthandbuch Deutschland" (_http://www.mil-aip.de/)

Read what others experienced in Germany (unfortunately in german):
_http://www.gutefrage.net/frage/lautloser-oder-sehr-leiser-helikopter

Or check this website for Eurocopter's helicopter noise reduction efforts:
_http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/eurocopter-s-blue-edge-rotor-blade-makes-helicopters-silent

Perhaps the phenomenon/meme of black helicopters or "ufos disguised as helicopters" does not apply here and everything can be explained with common sense?
 
If I may ask, which shape or body did they have? Were they military-like, ADAC-like, pesticide sprayer type of helicopter? Size?

I've never seen such type of flying objects myself but I have a friend who actually did. However, he saw once a black or dark plane over a see flying at very low altitude and without any perceptible sound (he was not in a car). His descriptions are similar to yours (sudden disappearance, "very strange", "uncommon", etc.).

Seems someone put a site up regarding black helicopters even (nice compilation of pictures and embedded videos): _http://www.blackhelicopters.biz
 
Sirius said:
If I may ask, which shape or body did they have? Were they military-like, ADAC-like, pesticide sprayer type of helicopter? Size?

I've never seen such type of flying objects myself but I have a friend who actually did. However, he saw once a black or dark plane over a see flying at very low altitude and without any perceptible sound (he was not in a car). His descriptions are similar to yours (sudden disappearance, "very strange", "uncommon", etc.).

Seems someone put a site up regarding black helicopters even (nice compilation of pictures and embedded videos): _http://www.blackhelicopters.biz

the helicopter wich I described in my fist post on this thread was a pretty big military like type.

those big military helicopters can be seen here quite regulary and they usually make a pretty loud noise even if they are far away.

but I also have seen several other types that are even bigger or smaller but are always completly black.
 
Well, black helicopters remind always of secret US parties. It is not common in Germany to have black helicopters. Bundespolizei has blue or dark blue ones. Bundeswehr has dark grey/green ones (though they may appear as black). But entirely matte black military helicopters? Such a helicopter might belong to Bundesnachrichtendienst or be a private one (reporters, etc.). If it was a military-type helicopter, then it would probably not be private property. Also, usually only military flies in droves.
 
Sirius said:
Well, black helicopters remind always of secret US parties. It is not common in Germany to have black helicopters. Bundespolizei has blue or dark blue ones. Bundeswehr has dark grey/green ones (though they may appear as black). But entirely matte black military helicopters? Such a helicopter might belong to Bundesnachrichtendienst or be a private one (reporters, etc.). If it was a military-type helicopter, then it would probably not be private property. Also, usually only military flies in droves.

I'm curious, I often heard that argument on the Internet after I researched that topic a bit further, but is that actually true?
Do you have a reference or source?
do helicopters need to have some sign on them in order for them to be allowed to fly in germany?
 
I'm curious, I often heard that argument on the Internet after I researched that topic a bit further, but is that actually true?
Do you have a reference or source?
At least, I don't know of any authority who makes use of black helicopters (though I can't say it with certainty). It would be generally known. However, if so much people see them, there must be an explanation for it.

You find here a database where all(?) private German helicopters are registered: _http://www.helionline.net/home.html
There is also a nice gallery showing private and non-private helicopters.
For example, there are black private ones (which most likely are not operated by any ultra-secret MiBs):
_http://www.helionline.net/photogallery///36990//4.html
_http://www.helionline.net/photogallery///36987//5.html
_http://www.helionline.net/photogallery///37020//2.html

Bundesgrenzschutz?
_http://www.helionline.net/photogallery///36978//5.html
Do you live somewhere near the border? They look rather dark.

Helicopters used by Bundespolizei: _http://www.bundespolizei.de/DE/06Die-Bundespolizei/Ausstattung/Hubschrauber/hubschrauber_node.html

do helicopters need to have some sign on them in order for them to be allowed to fly in germany?
Yes, Flugkennzeichnung D-Hxxx. If it were totally unmarked, then it would be something out of the ordinary. But if it were ultra-secret government, why not simply driving a black Mercedes?? No one would care. Why would anyone who wishes to operate in absolute secrecy take such risks anyway (assuming human beings are the only party)? And testing technology? Well, they would rather do it somewhere in Nevada. They have Area51. They do not need the Alps.

Have you seen the helicopter from the left or right side? Standard authority helicopters are marked as such. Private ones have sign with letters only. "Next time" you should somehow manage to see it closely from the side in order to obtain a precise image.
 
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