Air Algeria Flight AH5017 Missing Plane

[MikaelYosef]

Latitude longitude 017 370 show location not far from mali

Although a longitude of 370 isn't possible, I've verified it using the site _http://www.latlong.net/Show-Latitude-Longitude.html and it does indeed place that point on the map.

A couple of additional points I came across using the recent flight numbers of the newsworthy flights:

• A latitude of 50.17 (AH5017) and a longitude of 37.0 (MH370) places a point near Kharkiv, Ukraine. Two flights which 'disappeared' off radar and near to the location where the bodies of the victims of MH17 were initially taken.
• A latitude of 17 (MH17) and longitude of 3.70 (MH370) places a point 300km to the south of the supposed crash site in Mali of AH5017.
• The four most and arguably interesting flights this year in terms of crashes/disappearances/timings in chronological order are: MH370, MH17, TNA222 and AH5017. The numbers in chronological order add up to: 3 + 7 + 0 = 10; 1 + 7 = 8; 2 + 2 + 2 = 6; 5 + 0 + 1 + 7 = (13) 1 + 3 = 4. Is this actually a pattern and if so could it be some kind of a countdown?

I understand that some of the above points are drawing very long bows, and with numbers you can twist and turn them around so they can be used and manipulated to prove lots of different things, and quite possibly anything you want to prove if you are flexible enough. However, it just seems the uncanniness of the connections, and how they interact and cross over each other, I don't know - it just seems to be a little bit more than co-incidence.

 

[Tomek]

Last news from french news websites is that they found the wreckage, but with a twist !

_http://www.france24.com/en/20140725-aviation-france-algeria-plane-found-mali/

The wreckage of an Air Algérie plane that disappeared early Thursday with 116 people on board on a flight from Burkina Faso to Algeria has been found in Mali, according to French officials.

French President François Hollande’s office said Friday the jet was clearly identified even though it had "disintegrated".

France has sent a military unit to “secure the site and gather evidence,” said the French presidential statement.

Air Algérie flight AH 5017 from Ouagadougou to Algiers disappeared with 110 passengers and six crew members after taking off from the Burkina Faso capital early Thursday. The flight had 51 French nationals on board and France has been aiding the search effort.

The wreckage of the McDonell Douglas 83 (MD-83) was found about 50 kilometres (31 miles) from the border of Burkina Faso near the village of Boulikessi in Mali, south of the Malian city of Gao, according to Gen. Gilbert Diendere, an aide to Burkina Faso President Blaise Compaore who is heading a crisis committee set up to investigate the crash.

“We sent men with the agreement of the Mali government to the site and they found the wreckage of the plane with the help of the inhabitants of the area,” Gen. Diendere told reporters, adding that the wreckage was “totally burnt and scattered.”

 

[Minas Tirith]

Did a quick research on 17 number symbolism and found this:

The Meaning of Numbers: The Number 17

In the Bible the number 17 symbolizes "overcoming the enemy" and "complete victory." God overcame the sins of rebellious humans when he began to flood the earth through rain on the 17th of the second Hebrew month. Noah's ark and its eight passengers rested on the mountains of Ararat on the 17th of the seventh month (right in the middle of God's annual Holy period known as the Feast of Tabernacles).

And more interesting:

Daniel 7's beasts have seven heads and ten horns, for a total number of 17. They represent world-ruling powers from Daniel's time to the Second Coming of Jesus. The devil's end-time system (Revelation 13) will have seven heads and ten horns, which totals 17. All mankind will very soon obey and worship the devil and the Beast power. They will war against those who have faith in Jesus and keep the commandments, thus achieving a victory (though short-lived) against God's people (Revelation 13:1 - 8).

_http://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/17.html

M.T.

 

[loreta]

What is strange is there are no pictures of the accident?

 

[Tomek]

What is strange is there are no pictures of the accident?

I might be wrong, but this could be a MH370 again, if that's the case they're gonna need some time to prepare a "crime scene" for the medias. This thing about the "disintegrated" wreckage strikes me as very odd. The only other cases of disintegrated wreckages ? Flight 77 and Flight 93.

 

[Minas Tirith]

What is strange is there are no pictures of the accident?

It might be too early since it was just found yesterday before dark, but I agree on the fishiness of the whole thing. Herders saw the plane on fire before it fell (see below), so if this evidence is not planted, it might as well have been something else (meteor, bomb)

A GROUP of herders who say they saw Air Algerie flight AH5017 crash claim it went down after being struck by lightning, local officials told Reuters.

Louis Berthaud, a community counsellor in Gossi near where the plane carrying 116 people went down, said: “The herders were in the bush and saw the plane fall.”

He added: “It must have been a storm and it was struck by lightning. They said it was on fire as it fell, before it crashed.”

Planes of this size get struck by lightning all the time and land normally, btw.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/travel-truths/10847640/What-happens-when-lightning-hits-an-aeroplane.html


Also:2014-plane-crash-fatalities-already-double-those-of-2013

Three passenger plane crashes in the last week may have caused nearly the same number of fatalities over a seven-day period as all aviation fatalities in 2013, according to an international aircraft accidents body.

The Geneva-based Bureau of Aircraft Accidents Archives (B3A) reports that 2013 saw 459 fatalities as a result of aircraft accidents.

Meanwhile, just more than halfway through this year, the organization is reporting 991 fatalities in 2014.

_http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/2014-plane-crash-fatalities-already-double-those-of-2013-1.1929984

M.T.

 

[Dirgni]

What is strange is there are no pictures of the accident?

I might be wrong, but this could be a MH370 again, if that's the case they're gonna need some time to prepare a "crime scene" for the medias. This thing about the "disintegrated" wreckage strikes me as very odd. The only other cases of disintegrated wreckages ? Flight 77 and Flight 93.

I also had the idea we could have another MH370 incident.

The whole news coverage is strange. They could have said that they assumed that the plane is crashed. Alternatively they could have said that they got information that plane is crashed and they send teams to confirm and further information is provided when available and still some time needed because of remote c place.

But in this case a lot of confirmations that plane is crashed with a lot of different places. The different information do not fit to others given....

When I as PTB have got another MH370 incident then I most probably would not like to admit that I have another one. PTB had some time to discuss a way to present it to the people. So maybe they decided to make a cover up and claim plane is crashed. This would fit the information presented to us IMO.

Or its just the incompetence and inability of the PTB to handle this situation appropriately - just business as usual. :/

 

[seek10]

I don't want to give too much credit and importance to the recently finished Soccer World Cup, but it WAS a worldwide watching event; AND Algeria was the only team to donate their money to Gaza.
http://www.sott.net/article/281406-Algeria-team-donating-money-earned-at-Brazil-World-Cup-to-people-of-Gaza

That's a good connection Peche IMO. when Israel is using world cup as deflection for Gaza war, these Algerian guys brought the attention to plaestinian cause to the already charged world cup audience. I thought it is a very bold of Algerian soccer team, since these players most probably play for some european/other clubs which may be under zoinist control .

 

[Keit]

This is just too strange. First, there is almost no media coverage of the crash, and zero media coverage "on scene". I've attached the only image there is of the crash site. Even TV channels like RT are silent. It's like everything is done in a hurry and "hush hush".

Here's the only video in French
_http://www.airlivenet.com/2014/07/breaking-watch-first-video-of-ah5017.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

CNN article, for example, says: "'Disintegrated' Air Algerie plane found with no survivors; 'black box' recovered".
_http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/25/world/africa/air-algerie-crash/
It's like the message is: "Move along, folks, nothing to see here." With all the Putin hupla, and disappearing plane before that, the whole ignore seems just too weird. And how "weather" can cause such a disintegration? Unless it was another "extraordinary event", just like it happened to Air France.

Speaking of France, the source that released the video (Airlivenet) also has a "breaking emergency" alert on its Twitter page for "Air France flight #AF1775 from Oslo is on final approach to north runway of Paris CDG airport."

_https://twitter.com/airlivenet

BREAKING #AF1775 In many cases, emergency on approach is to alert medical service on the ground.

Don't know what's up with that.

 

[loreta]

So a counsel: if you have to travel please, please don't take a airplane company that is from a country that is not friend with Israel. This is serious business.

 

[Keit]

The latest news from Reuters. Notice, that only one day has passed since the crash, and they already have investigators concluding that it was a "poor weather".

Bad weather seen as probable cause of fatal Air Algerie crash
_http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/25/us-algeria-flight-cause-idUSKBN0FU0J520140725?utm_source=twitter

Poor weather was the most likely cause of the crash of an Air Algerie flight in the West African state of Mali that killed 118 people on board, French officials said on Friday.

Investigators at the scene of the crash in northern Mali concluded the airliner broke apart when it hit the ground, the officials said, suggesting this meant it was unlikely to have been the victim of an attack.

"French soldiers who are on the ground have started the first investigations. Sadly, there are no survivors," French President Francois Hollande told reporters.

A column of 100 soldiers and 30 vehicles from the French force stationed in the region arrived early on Friday morning to secure the crash site near the northern Mali town of Gossi and to recover bodies, a Defense Ministry official said.

Hollande said one of the black box flight recorders had already been recovered and would be analyzed quickly.

"The plane's debris is concentrated in a small area, but it is too early to draw conclusions," Hollande said of the wreckage of the plane carrying at least 51 French nationals that crashed near the border with Burkina Faso, from where it had taken off.

"There are theories, especially the weather, but I'm not excluding any theory."

The death toll was revised to 118 from 116 after a final passenger manifest was issued.

"They have to do everything to reassemble the bodies and bring them home so that we can mourn properly," said Alidou Ouedraogo, whose daughter was among the 27 citizens of Burkina Faso killed in the crash.

 

[Keit]

Site of crash:

More here: _https://twitter.com/HuffPostUKPics/status/492673766162722816/photo/1

 

[Eboard10]

Site of crash:

More here: _https://twitter.com/HuffPostUKPics/status/492673766162722816/photo/1

If you look at the pictures provided in the link there doesn't seem to be much of a wreckage at all.

Looks eerily similar to the Flight 93 crash site with a few aircraft parts here and there.

 

[seek10]

This is just too strange. First, there is almost no media coverage of the crash, and zero media coverage "on scene". I've attached the only image there is of the crash site. Even TV channels like RT are silent. It's like everything is done in a hurry and "hush hush".

Yesterday , early hours of the crash some body in twitter complained for lack of coverage from western media saying only RT is covering it. West wants to blame Putin on MH17, so they may go silent on this flight, NOT to dilute the propaganda on Putin over MH17. If the RT is becoming silent means, some other forces in action or RT didn't have information to cover it.

CNN article, for example, says: "'Disintegrated' Air Algerie plane found with no survivors; 'black box' recovered".
_http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/25/world/africa/air-algerie-crash/
It's like the message is: "Move along, folks, nothing to see here." With all the Putin hupla, and disappearing plane before that, the whole ignore seems just too weird. And how "weather" can cause such a disintegration? Unless it was another "extraordinary event", just like it happened to Air France.

There is another crash in Taiwan GE222 http://www.sott.net/article/282513-Flight-GE222-Crash-At-least-42-killed-in-Taiwan-plane-crash. This is related to weather

"We have found 42 bodies and some body parts so far," an official surnamed Tsai at the Penghu county fire department told AFP early Thursday.

Television images showed firefighters working in heavy rain to douse the mangled plane and soldiers on the scene.

"There were 58 people on board including four crew members, four children and, so far, according to the information we have, 12 were injured and were sent to hospitals while 46 were missing," Transport Minister Yeh Kuang-shih told reporters earlier.

 

[anka]

If you look at the pictures provided in the link there doesn't seem to be much of a wreckage at all.

Looks eerily similar to the Flight 93 crash site with a few aircraft parts here and there.

That's my impression as well. And having watched the new video on SoTT, I thought this does not look like a real crash site. Staged? After following all the previous comments, I would favour the Mossad link but at the same time, not intending to confuse the issue too much, looking at the vortices map which was already mentioned in the MH370 thread, one of the 10 central areas includes exactly Mali & Algeria, among others. Coincidence? See here:

_http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/mapas_ocultotierra/esp_mapa_ocultotierra_11.htm