Azur said:
I do not know if it came out in the language, or syntax used, but I got that too, when reading it.
Yeah, I figured that those who could "see" would.
I also went back to look at the whole session, which is one I didn't transcribe, and I notice that the initials of the questioners are mixed up. But that's not too important here.
Anyways, let's look at the exchange and I'll point out a couple of things in brackets:
Q: (J) Can I ask my question? (L) Go ahead. (DN) Are 'The Allies of Humanity' a valuable resource?
A: All is of value if examined with an open mind and proper perspective.
[Right here is the first "warning" sign. The Cs would say this about almost any source. The fact that they came right out and said "if examined with an open mind and proper perspective" is the big clue number one that the questioner, DN, was NOT examining with an open mind! But, of course, since their minds were made up and closed, there was no possibility that they could even get this subtle hint. But, as you can see from my advice at the beginning of the next question, I was very aware of the vagueness of the response. ]
Q: (L) You can get more specific, you know: vague in, vague out. The hardest thing about the process is
thinking about the question. (V) Well, just from reading the table of contents of this Allies of Humanity book, it
looks like they're trying to define a lot of subject matter, they're trying to define what is God, what is... (DG) Spiritual.
A: Or from their perspective.
[That was actually the questioner answering "spiritual"... and the Cs jumped in with "or from their perspective..." Big clue number two!]
Q: (V) Where does the information emanate from?
A: Channeled.
Q: (V) Channeled by who? (JN) Channeled by Marshall Summers. (V) But who is it that is channeling through
Marshall Summers? (JN) The Allies of Humanity. (V) You are missing my point. That's a name they give
themselves. I want to know: what kind of source are they?
[Now, did you notice this exchange between V and JN??? JN was NOT going to allow a single simple question to be asked. Her mind was made up and that was that. The problem here is that we never established that the channeled information came through Marshall Summers from the Allies of Humanity. That was the assumption made by JN. For all we know, the Cs could have meant that, yeah, it was channeled, but it was somebody else's channeled stuff and Summers ripped it off! That was never clarified because JN had her mind made up. But, anyway, the Cs answered the only thing they could, considering the restrictions that JN was putting on the exchange.]
A: 4th density.
Q: (V) STS, STO?
A: STO predominates.
[ For all we know, the predominate STO part could be ripped off from others, and the STS part could be what Summers himself "channels." Heck, we don't even know if Summers is the actual channel because that question was pre-empted by JN!!!]
Q: (V) Well that's cool.
[And here's a biggie. The Cs were determined to get something across, I could feel it, and I could feel the suppressive energy from JN who just did NOT want to hear anything about Summers that she had not already decided, so this next felt rather like information that was squeezing out around a barrier]
A: Keep in mind that the 4th density STO perspective has a tendency to exclude certain factors by virtue of
choice of realm frequency. This means that the lesson profile of 4th density STO is to enhance the energy by
association in networks that do not include ongoing contact with STS, and so their perspective is on the
positive STO experience.
[At this point, the rest of us in the room "got it," and RO decided to take a hand in clarification.]
Q: (R) So they can choose realms as frequencies or such where they do not have contact with STS because STS are not of the same frequency. (L) At 4D, those who graduate to STO are working on enhancement of what is already a choice rather than the problem of making the choice. It's there, it's made, it's done. (R) This has to go back to the question that you started with about Allies from 4D because, it's "all is of value if examined with a open mind and proper perspective." From our perspective, any help that we would get from 4D STO includes the fact that we have to keep in mind that they don't have to deal with things that we do. (L) Right. (R) So any help that we get from them, we will have to add the extra context...(L) Of our reality.
A: First awareness of the choice comes. Then making the choice. Then enhancing the energy to graduate. The problem of 3rd density is identifying what to choose, since so much is veiled from you.
[And that was the last clue I needed: "the problem is identifying what to choose since so much is veiled from you."]
All in all it was an interesting experience. The chief thing I came away with was an almost nauseous feeling whenever Marshall Summers and his so-called "allies of humanity" are mentioned.