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mallee
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"Israeli bulldozer crushes Palestinian teenager" http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/articles/show/141951-Israeli+bulldozer+crushes+Palestinian+teenager
One more recent example (isn't there at least one new one every single day?), of the ruthlessness being employed by Israel, along with the unmitigated hubris of the leader of Her Majesty's Opposition in Australia, Keven (me-too) Rudd, that prompted my intial e-mail. Judge the result for yourselves.
An e-mail exchange with the Australian Labor Party.
The initial e-mail
From: [mallee]
Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2007 7:33 PM
To: Rudd, Kevin (MP)
Subject: A Civil Query
Dear Mr Rudd.
According to the Palestinian Centre of Statistics, the number of Palestinians killed by Israeli soldiers and paramilitary Jewish settlers reached 5,300 from 29 September 2000 to 29 September 2007.
The death toll includes 978 children, 363 women, 506 assassinations, and 149 Palestinians murdered while passing through Israeli roadblocks and checkpoints.
Some 60,000 people were injured, many suffering life-long disabilities, and 11,000 were imprisoned with no hope of release.
During the same period, the Israeli occupation army destroyed 7,512 homes and seriously damaged more than 663,000 homes both in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
My query, and I hope I've framed it civilly, is simply this: instead of pledging to seek a prosecution of President Ahmadinejad for alleged incitement to genocide, where is your voice on the subject of the real genocide being perpetrated upon the peoples of Palestine by the government and people of Israel?
Yours faithfully,
The hubris and empty rhetoric filled reply
From: ALP Campaign Information
To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 4:48 PM
Subject: RE: A Civil Query
Dear [mallee]
I am writing to thank you for your email concerning Labor’s policy towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Fundamentally, Labor supports a two-state solution which recognises the historic connection of both Jews and Palestinians to the area, and their right to live within secure borders in a homeland that allows them to express their own national identity.
Labor also fully supports the efforts of the Quartet (United States, EU, Russia and UN) to resolve the ongoing conflict, based on the conditions set out in the Road Map to Peace. It includes important measures such as mutual recognition, security measures, the vital capacity-building of Palestinian government institutions, better humanitarian relief and the dismantling of the most disruptive settlements.
We welcome the positive moves by Israel’s Government to withdraw from the Gaza Strip in 2005 and the platform of dismantling illegal West Bank settlements on which the current Israeli Government was elected in 2006. We note that the Government began to withdraw from selected West Bank settlements before the most recent outbreak of hostilities, which was an intensely controversial decision amongst the Israeli public.
We condemn the attempts of groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah, along with their government backers in Syria and Iran, to derail the peace process. The continued rocket-fire into Israel, abduction of Israeli soldiers on Israeli territory and in-fighting between Palestinian factions is preventing a return to the negotiating table. Labor believes that negotiations will only be possible when all offensive attacks are ceased and all negotiating partners recognise the rights of other partners to exist.
As such, Labor is prepared to offer Australia’s diplomatic resources to assist in creating the conditions that would allow for dialogue to resume. We believe that many positive compromises have already been made on the path to a permanent status agreement, and are confident that solutions to complex problems such as borders and refugees can be reached if a secure environment is established in which to discuss them.
Thank you once again for taking the time to let Labor know your views. It is genuinely appreciated.
Yours sincerely
ALP Campaign Information Services
The rebuttal.
From: [mallee]
To: ALP Campaign Information
Sent: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:22:23
Subject: RE: A Civil Query
ALP: I am writing to thank you for your email concerning Labor’s policy towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Fundamentally, Labor supports a two-state solution which recognises the historic connection of both Jews and Palestinians to the area, and their right to live within secure borders in a homeland that allows them to express their own national identity.
Mallee: 1. Please show or refer me to any independent historical documents detailing Jewish historical connection to Palestine.
And 2. Two-state solution = no autonomy for Palestinians forced to live in apartheid Bantustans, with all borders, airspace and seaboard, in fact with every aspect of daily life controlled and manipulated by Israel.
ALP: Labor also fully supports the efforts of the Quartet (United States, EU, Russia and UN) to resolve the ongoing conflict, based on the conditions set out in the Road Map to Peace. It includes important measures such as mutual recognition, security measures, the vital capacity-building of Palestinian government institutions, better humanitarian relief and the dismantling of the most disruptive settlements.
Mallee: The Quartet is a crock according to both John Dugard, the U.N. special rapporteur on human rights for the Palestinian territories since 2001 and Under-Secretary-General Alvaro de Soto, who also blasted the United Nations in a 52-page confidential report earlier this year, accusing the world body of undermining the goal of a Palestinian state. There are also a plethora of independent analyses, readily available to even an amateur researcher, which fully concur.
ALP: We welcome the positive moves by Israel’s Government to withdraw from the Gaza Strip in 2005 and the platform of dismantling illegal West Bank settlements on which the current Israeli Government was elected in 2006. We note that the Government began to withdraw from selected West Bank settlements before the most recent outbreak of hostilities, which was an intensely controversial decision amongst the Israeli public.
Mallee: History shows that the alleged withdrawal from Gaza and dismantling of illegal West Bank settlements was a total fraud. There have been more new settlements since 2005 than those that were dismantled. As early as September of the following year the London Independent reported that " Olmert backs off from West Bank pull-out with settlements plan" and noted that bids to build 700 homes in the West Bank had been issued. Since that time there has been no slowing of the onslaught. In August of this year the UN publication IRIN noted that Israeli settlements in the West Bank are having a severe humanitarian impact on rural Palestinian areas, disconnecting Palestinians from agricultural land and limiting their movement, restricting access to markets and water resources. There has been no withdrawal, and only the extremely naive or the deliberately obtuse could believe otherwise.
ALP: We condemn the attempts of groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah, along with their government backers in Syria and Iran, to derail the peace process. The continued rocket-fire into Israel, abduction of Israeli soldiers on Israeli territory and in-fighting between Palestinian factions is preventing a return to the negotiating table. Labor believes that negotiations will only be possible when all offensive attacks are ceased and all negotiating partners recognise the rights of other partners to exist.
Mallee: Of course all of the historically annotated Israeli recalcitrance, interference and false-flag operations don't rate a mention? Neither do all of the UN resolutions condemning not the Palestinians, but the Israelis. As ever, according to the zionist screed, the Palestinians must give more and more and more, while the Israeli state gives nothing but obfuscation, continued occupation, creeping land and resource theft - and terror.
ALP: As such, Labor is prepared to offer Australia’s diplomatic resources to assist in creating the conditions that would allow for dialogue to resume. We believe that many positive compromises have already been made on the path to a permanent status agreement, and are confident that solutions to complex problems such as borders and refugees can be reached if a secure environment is established in which to discuss them.
Mallee: Translation: Labor is prepared to support and assist in the Israeli genocide of the Palestinian people. Good-oh.
ALP: Thank you once again for taking the time to let Labor know your views. It is genuinely appreciated.
Mallee: No, thank you for being so forthright about Labor's stance as an active and enabling body for the worldwide zionist movement, and the genocidal, racist and apartheid state of “Israel”.
Sincerely,
[to be continued?]
One more recent example (isn't there at least one new one every single day?), of the ruthlessness being employed by Israel, along with the unmitigated hubris of the leader of Her Majesty's Opposition in Australia, Keven (me-too) Rudd, that prompted my intial e-mail. Judge the result for yourselves.
An e-mail exchange with the Australian Labor Party.
The initial e-mail
From: [mallee]
Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2007 7:33 PM
To: Rudd, Kevin (MP)
Subject: A Civil Query
Dear Mr Rudd.
According to the Palestinian Centre of Statistics, the number of Palestinians killed by Israeli soldiers and paramilitary Jewish settlers reached 5,300 from 29 September 2000 to 29 September 2007.
The death toll includes 978 children, 363 women, 506 assassinations, and 149 Palestinians murdered while passing through Israeli roadblocks and checkpoints.
Some 60,000 people were injured, many suffering life-long disabilities, and 11,000 were imprisoned with no hope of release.
During the same period, the Israeli occupation army destroyed 7,512 homes and seriously damaged more than 663,000 homes both in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
My query, and I hope I've framed it civilly, is simply this: instead of pledging to seek a prosecution of President Ahmadinejad for alleged incitement to genocide, where is your voice on the subject of the real genocide being perpetrated upon the peoples of Palestine by the government and people of Israel?
Yours faithfully,
The hubris and empty rhetoric filled reply
From: ALP Campaign Information
To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 4:48 PM
Subject: RE: A Civil Query
Dear [mallee]
I am writing to thank you for your email concerning Labor’s policy towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Fundamentally, Labor supports a two-state solution which recognises the historic connection of both Jews and Palestinians to the area, and their right to live within secure borders in a homeland that allows them to express their own national identity.
Labor also fully supports the efforts of the Quartet (United States, EU, Russia and UN) to resolve the ongoing conflict, based on the conditions set out in the Road Map to Peace. It includes important measures such as mutual recognition, security measures, the vital capacity-building of Palestinian government institutions, better humanitarian relief and the dismantling of the most disruptive settlements.
We welcome the positive moves by Israel’s Government to withdraw from the Gaza Strip in 2005 and the platform of dismantling illegal West Bank settlements on which the current Israeli Government was elected in 2006. We note that the Government began to withdraw from selected West Bank settlements before the most recent outbreak of hostilities, which was an intensely controversial decision amongst the Israeli public.
We condemn the attempts of groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah, along with their government backers in Syria and Iran, to derail the peace process. The continued rocket-fire into Israel, abduction of Israeli soldiers on Israeli territory and in-fighting between Palestinian factions is preventing a return to the negotiating table. Labor believes that negotiations will only be possible when all offensive attacks are ceased and all negotiating partners recognise the rights of other partners to exist.
As such, Labor is prepared to offer Australia’s diplomatic resources to assist in creating the conditions that would allow for dialogue to resume. We believe that many positive compromises have already been made on the path to a permanent status agreement, and are confident that solutions to complex problems such as borders and refugees can be reached if a secure environment is established in which to discuss them.
Thank you once again for taking the time to let Labor know your views. It is genuinely appreciated.
Yours sincerely
ALP Campaign Information Services
The rebuttal.
From: [mallee]
To: ALP Campaign Information
Sent: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:22:23
Subject: RE: A Civil Query
ALP: I am writing to thank you for your email concerning Labor’s policy towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Fundamentally, Labor supports a two-state solution which recognises the historic connection of both Jews and Palestinians to the area, and their right to live within secure borders in a homeland that allows them to express their own national identity.
Mallee: 1. Please show or refer me to any independent historical documents detailing Jewish historical connection to Palestine.
And 2. Two-state solution = no autonomy for Palestinians forced to live in apartheid Bantustans, with all borders, airspace and seaboard, in fact with every aspect of daily life controlled and manipulated by Israel.
ALP: Labor also fully supports the efforts of the Quartet (United States, EU, Russia and UN) to resolve the ongoing conflict, based on the conditions set out in the Road Map to Peace. It includes important measures such as mutual recognition, security measures, the vital capacity-building of Palestinian government institutions, better humanitarian relief and the dismantling of the most disruptive settlements.
Mallee: The Quartet is a crock according to both John Dugard, the U.N. special rapporteur on human rights for the Palestinian territories since 2001 and Under-Secretary-General Alvaro de Soto, who also blasted the United Nations in a 52-page confidential report earlier this year, accusing the world body of undermining the goal of a Palestinian state. There are also a plethora of independent analyses, readily available to even an amateur researcher, which fully concur.
ALP: We welcome the positive moves by Israel’s Government to withdraw from the Gaza Strip in 2005 and the platform of dismantling illegal West Bank settlements on which the current Israeli Government was elected in 2006. We note that the Government began to withdraw from selected West Bank settlements before the most recent outbreak of hostilities, which was an intensely controversial decision amongst the Israeli public.
Mallee: History shows that the alleged withdrawal from Gaza and dismantling of illegal West Bank settlements was a total fraud. There have been more new settlements since 2005 than those that were dismantled. As early as September of the following year the London Independent reported that " Olmert backs off from West Bank pull-out with settlements plan" and noted that bids to build 700 homes in the West Bank had been issued. Since that time there has been no slowing of the onslaught. In August of this year the UN publication IRIN noted that Israeli settlements in the West Bank are having a severe humanitarian impact on rural Palestinian areas, disconnecting Palestinians from agricultural land and limiting their movement, restricting access to markets and water resources. There has been no withdrawal, and only the extremely naive or the deliberately obtuse could believe otherwise.
ALP: We condemn the attempts of groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah, along with their government backers in Syria and Iran, to derail the peace process. The continued rocket-fire into Israel, abduction of Israeli soldiers on Israeli territory and in-fighting between Palestinian factions is preventing a return to the negotiating table. Labor believes that negotiations will only be possible when all offensive attacks are ceased and all negotiating partners recognise the rights of other partners to exist.
Mallee: Of course all of the historically annotated Israeli recalcitrance, interference and false-flag operations don't rate a mention? Neither do all of the UN resolutions condemning not the Palestinians, but the Israelis. As ever, according to the zionist screed, the Palestinians must give more and more and more, while the Israeli state gives nothing but obfuscation, continued occupation, creeping land and resource theft - and terror.
ALP: As such, Labor is prepared to offer Australia’s diplomatic resources to assist in creating the conditions that would allow for dialogue to resume. We believe that many positive compromises have already been made on the path to a permanent status agreement, and are confident that solutions to complex problems such as borders and refugees can be reached if a secure environment is established in which to discuss them.
Mallee: Translation: Labor is prepared to support and assist in the Israeli genocide of the Palestinian people. Good-oh.
ALP: Thank you once again for taking the time to let Labor know your views. It is genuinely appreciated.
Mallee: No, thank you for being so forthright about Labor's stance as an active and enabling body for the worldwide zionist movement, and the genocidal, racist and apartheid state of “Israel”.
Sincerely,
[to be continued?]
