Anime and Manga - Big eyes = Human/Alien hybrid acceptance programming?

[Woodsman]

I just wrapped up a few hours of rather peculiar research and thinking. . .

The initial spark/idea which set me going concerned those Japanese comics and animations featuring characters with really big eyes. Anime. Manga. About two or three generations of kids in the West, and more in the East have been obsessed with that particular form of pop culture to levels which, frankly, just haven't seemed to have made any rational sense that I've been able to work out. (I knew a guy once who was so caught up in collecting comics and animations from Japan that he blew his entire college fund and was kicked out of school for failing to show up to class or do any work at all. He was perhaps an extreme case, but there is certainly some deep nerve which that particular form of pop culture seems to have discovered and exploit in the human mind.).

It occurred to me that such a strong reaction was possibly the result of deliberate population mind control efforts of some kind. I'd never considered this before, and the moment I did, the following struck me. . , "I wonder if alien/hybrid humans would look sort of like Japanese animation characters come to life?"

Maybe this intense devotion to a particular style of cartoon character is evidence of some kind of preparation. . ? A way of making certain the up-and-coming generations who may be faced with hybrid aliens are affected by some sort of pre-programmed awe and reverence of their new masters?

As I understand it, the Alien/Human hybridization plan is actually really in the works on some level. So I dug around for some comparison images to see if I was actually on to something. I soon arrived at the following very creepy video, courtesy of Sony, (a Japanese media company with deep ties to pop culture). This is one of the more upsetting damned videos I've ever seen. Please have your guards up if you're going to watch this. As with most family-rated TV, it's thoroughly toxic, but this specimen I found particularly unsettling upon initial exposure. . .

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh-vRmoaq3Y

—An otherwise attractive girl of clearly alien genetics, with an aristocratic snootiness and a facial structure which might plug directly into pre-programmed responses laid down by Japanese pop-culture. . . That seems to offer some clues. Condescending and powerful? Seems perfect for triggering feelings of personal and class inferiority programmed via the social trauma which is high school, an effect which might be especially pronounced in those who have spent their youth idolizing pretend pop culture characters which are of, frankly, a fundamentally weird design.

I remember hearing a story about a far-removed culture of native Canadians living in a Northern climate. They were a functional community until TV arrived. This destroyed the self-esteem of the youth, and soon afterwards, that of the community as a whole. I may be wrong, but I always put that down to the result of self-comparison encouraged by TV media designed to always leave the viewer feeling a personal lack. In a community which was all about ice-fishing, then the gulf between themselves and the idealized life-styles based on industrial automation which are expressed on TV could certainly lead to a profound sense of personal devaluation.

So anyway. . , it turns out that Sony was using this series of adverts to sell its, (then) new video game system in the third quarter of 2006. A "Playstation 3". Weirded out by this, I ended up out of morbid curiosity taking a look at a good portion of their 2006 marketing campaign, trying to work out what in heaven's name they thought they were trying to achieve. Turns out the whole theme was based on the idea of an established alien presence, high alien technology, and the misery and slave-hood of humans in general.

Take a look at the other messages they were trying to inject into culture. (Keeping in mind, that this was not a small or isolated endeavor. This particular game system was a highly anticipated product, released with lots of fanfare and lots of TV ad spots. If you were a regular TV consumer in 2006, then chances are, you've already got several of these weird bits of programming kicking around in your skull.)

"The wait is over" _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0QxoKnU5Zg
"Oooz" _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eD7h_vHDa8
"Rubic's Cube" _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuAz4xiisls
"Creepy baby doll" _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqkNPcUMffU
"Eggs" _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyFrekxy7wg
"This is Living" _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEXj0XZxox4

—From the perspective of game system sales, this tactic didn't seem to achieve the immediate objective of selling lots of Playstation 3's; sales for the new game platform were lukewarm at best. As one reviewer put it, "take one of the most anticipated game systems of all time and — within the space of a year — turn it into a hate object reviled by the entire internet"

The system was critically panned, and it took two years of work and the release of a cosmetically prettier version of the same system and less-creepy ads to bring Sony's game system back into the kind of profit margins they wanted. But then I'm not convinced that the people who were ultimately behind this marketing strategy were terribly worried about which game systems people played, or about corporate profits.

It seems to me that choosing to use as your base advertising campaign for a world-recognized product, the idea of alien invasion, high-strangeness technology and human/alien hybridization doesn't just 'happen' for no reason.

So what do y'all think?

 

[Al Today]

At the very least, I think there is a "push" to desensitize the public in the area of wishful thinking of escaping reality.
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh-vRmoaq3Y

Yep, that is eerie and gave me the creeps.

[...] It seems to me that choosing to use as your base advertising campaign for a world-recognized product, the idea of alien invasion, high-strangeness technology and human/alien hybridization doesn't just 'happen' for no reason [...]

There may be something to this. It's only a strong feeling for me with no absolute proof. At the very least it's driven by greed.

 

[cubbex]

Mmm it was to make the characters able to express.

 

[tschai]

Not so sure the "big eyes" in manga / anime are necessarily alien hybrid features-the girl in the (first) advert, did not really look to me like anime / manga style-maybe that is what she really looks like, how can we be sure?

To my understanding "big" eyes in the manga / anime are to increase the "cute" and appeal factor-the same way big eyes in human and animal babies make them irresistible. And since the eyes are very expressive it is an artistic way to convey emotion-If you watch a lot of anime (I am a big fan and I am in my fifties) you can see a lot of expression made with those "big" eyes. See link below

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime#Eye_styleshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime#Eye_styles

It is true some manga and anime deal with themes based on interaction with non-human creatures / beings (especially oni or demons) aliens and high tech futuristic stuff-but not all of it has that basis. It also has themes of love / hate relationships and also themes from taken from Japanese culture and history and sometimes other nations-which can be factual or fictionalized.
But I personally have not got the "feeling" I was being coerced into acceptance by watching anime- can take it or leave it.

I do not see why the PTB would "care" if we "accept" alien hybrids? Isn't the plan simply to replace us with these creatures?

 

[Woodsman]

No, eh?

And actually, I just recalled that Bug Bunny is also a big-eyed monster if you look at the literal images of him. Big eyes are common with many cartoon creatures for reasons of basic expressiveness in drawing, one can easily argue. So I may well just be blowing smoke on the anime thing.

I do find I spark on connections sometimes where there aren't any, but every now and then it does lead to a result which is worth considering. In any case, it was interesting to come across that weird Sony marketing push.

Thanks for the opportunity to network.

 

[cubbex]

Also, if they were drawn with some oriental face, it would be boring because all of them have the same face. And, some nippers tend to like child appearance, they are kind of pedophiles.

There are other anime were they not necessarily have some big eyes, like Great Teacher Onizuka.

here is an article about it :

http://www.nz17.com/anifanatikku/articles/12.php

I think believing this about hybrid aliens in anime is like david icke with the royalty being reptoids.

 

[Woodsman]

"Nippers"?

Perhaps I am misinterpreting, but that could be considered rather offensive. Did you consider this?

I think believing this about hybrid aliens in anime is like david icke with the royalty being reptoids.

I can see a similarity in terms of subject matter, but beyond that, I don't see how such a comparison is valid.

We know that the media is used to effect population-wide mind control. It's difficult when looking at a piece of media to deconstruct the primary manipulative intent behind it, so possibilities need to be considered, explored and rejected if they prove invalid. It may well be that I was making a spurious connection. Icke, on the other hand, is not talking about mind-control through the use of visual imagery in popular media. He's talking about genetics and making claims that some people are really lizards in disguise. As well, his claims are being made in the positive, he's promoting a full conspiracy; he's got an agenda.

 

[rylek]

I just wrapped up a few hours of rather peculiar research and thinking. . .
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So what do y'all think?

Also, if they were drawn with some oriental face, it would be boring because all of them have the same face.

Personally I wouldn't read too much into manga. As a personal observation, having spent quite a bit of time around Asian Asians there is this general fascination with 'European' looks, girls putting on make up to have bigger eyes etc. I'd go with the idea them breaking out of the general Asian look as well as the explanation about the bigger eyes equals more cuddly appearance with the possible pedophile overtones.

Not that I want to get into analyzing Playstation ads, but they seem to have a different thing going than the manga themes, they're trying to get people interested in their games. I'd just look for the desensitize theme elsewhere. FWIW my two pence.

 

[cubbex]

"Nippers"?

Perhaps I am misinterpreting, but that could be considered rather offensive. Did you consider this?

No I didn't, I have some japanese friend and usually joke about it with him. So being familiar with it I didn't consider, sorry.

I can see a similarity in terms of subject matter, but beyond that, I don't see how such a comparison is valid.

We know that the media is used to effect population-wide mind control. It's difficult when looking at a piece of media to deconstruct the primary manipulative intent behind it, so possibilities need to be considered, explored and rejected if they prove invalid. It may well be that I was making a spurious connection. Icke, on the other hand, is not talking about mind-control through the use of visual imagery in popular media. He's talking about genetics and making claims that some people are really lizards in disguise. As well, his claims are being made in the positive, he's promoting a full conspiracy; he's got an agenda.

I meant it felt kind of paranoid. Like the same pattern on those looking for their other half - gosh that book was good I can't remember the name - , just because of some similar or related characteristic, they believe that person is their other half, in the same way, just because some similar characteristic related to an alien, people begin to believe that is some conspiration from the aliens to whatever purpose.

Of course if its a strategy to become familiar with hybrids aliens, the media is doing well, because everybody -or that's what I believe - loves personifications with big eyes. For example there is the movie district 9 where the concept of the aliens were exactly as some crab, but the looks made feel alienation, so instead of those crab eyes they fixed it with some big and round eyes, with the empathy feeling as the aim, but because of the public.

But of course as that movie that may be a good example of trying to make others familiar with aliens, there is a new movie I think, Paul is the name, and looking the way they draw the character is obvious the intend. But in cases like anime... where sometimes is because of something else, to drain attention of the public, well, I don't really see it as other thing appart of that... There is other example, the one about teddy bears, they were made in that way because they remembered the face of a baby, so the people would feel affection for the bears. The point is that the objective was to sell well.

What I really believe is to be scared are those cartoons from cartoonetwork, have you seen those?? come on they are fun, but they look a lot like ren and stimpy or beavies and buthead from MTV that are not for children, and children are being programmed to be stupid, and that's worst to be familiar with aliens.

 

[Jakesully]

As I understand it, the Alien/Human hybridization plan is actually really in the works on some level. So I dug around for some comparison images to see if I was actually on to something. I soon arrived at the following very creepy video, courtesy of Sony, (a Japanese media company with deep ties to pop culture). This is one of the more upsetting damned videos I've ever seen. Please have your guards up if you're going to watch this. As with most family-rated TV, it's thoroughly toxic, but this specimen I found particularly unsettling upon initial exposure. . .

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh-vRmoaq3Y

—An otherwise attractive girl of clearly alien genetics, with an aristocratic snootiness and a facial structure which might plug directly into pre-programmed responses laid down by Japanese pop-culture. . . That seems to offer some clues. Condescending and powerful? Seems perfect for triggering feelings of personal and class inferiority programmed via the social trauma which is high school, an effect which might be especially pronounced in those who have spent their youth idolizing pretend pop culture characters which are of, frankly, a fundamentally weird design.

I just watched the first few seconds of this clip, and yeah, pardon my language, but this creeped the hell out of me. The weird noise in the background definitely added to the creep factor.

Alarm bells went off, like, "This is unnatural and repugnant!"

 

[DianaRose]

Your video woodsman creep the hell out of me, I couldn't even watch it all. Coming back in the topic, I'm not sure that they are trying to program people for accept alien. But I have remarked that a lot of asians love the european look, and people especially girls wish to have very pale skin, and in general they try to look european the most possible, look wise. Of course not all asians are like that. But I seriously wonder why they have such a fasciation with the european look. I guess it's program that have been installed long ago.

 

[clerck de bonk]

I'm with You on this Woodsman. In fact I've been thinkin' along these lines ever since my oldest daughter had her thing with Bratz years ago.

 

[Slow Motion Mary]

I first met this "cartoon big eyes" thing as a child in Guam in the mid-60's. I questioned it, since the cartoons were so different from American cartoons. The answer I ultimately received was that the big eyes were done to be more expressive to specifically appeal to American children, as American children had been indoctrinated to reject small, Asian-type eyes as "evil". Remember, this was only about 20 years after WWII. Sorry, I no longer remember who gave me this information.

 

[Woodsman]

Are we in the midst of pre-takeover indoctrination?

Well, I think that's a given. But seeing it in action can be useful in developing knowledge and thus protection. Pay strict attention left and right.

It has always interested me just how blatant media programming can be without anybody noticing. Generally speaking, when a product is being sold, the contents of the advert are automatically assumed to be part of that impetus, regardless of the fact that the actual message is sometimes entirely unrelated with the object or service being sold. This is an attempt in many cases to create non-linear cross-associations in the brain.

Back in the late 90's when it became a popular trend in marketing, it was common to see product placements delivered to audiences combined with scenes deliberately designed to create strong fear/repulsion/high-anxiety reactions. It is understood that one of the fastest ways to lock an idea into place in the human mind is to create traumatic sensations. Connected to survival programming, the tiger jumping out of the jungle creates a strong sensation, so that in the future, if the subject recognizes any similar markers, (a jungle, similar smells and sounds which were in evidence when the tiger attacked), the brain immediately brings up the entire portfolio of thoughts, images and sensations linked to that event in order to provide the information and reactions which might increase the chances of survival. This is well-known and has been co-opted by advertisers and propagandists to piggyback their own messages.

In the case of advertising, the logic goes that when stressed, the product being sold, be it a soft drink or a furniture vendor, can provide an impression of a comfort and safety zone safe from the threat of the tiger.

We see this marketing tactic used all the time. Some examples. . .

(Again, there is always a danger when studying propaganda that people are at risk of allowing a sample they are examining to affect them in the way intended by its creators. So please, again, have your guards up and bring the knowledge you have collected to bear on this subject. If you're not in a strong place, perhaps look at this stuff later or not at all.)


_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRZTRT6vWbY
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFYXDfJdD6Y


Now, the 2006 Sony ad campaign, aimed at youth worldwide, while it used similar tactics, contained something new, (and similar to other ad spots which have been noted featuring aliens). A glimpse of the Alien Manifesto, in a sense.

As many ad campaigns do, the broad message was provided in a jig-saw puzzle formation; many little ad spots on TV and in magazines and posters, pieces which taken individually, don't mean much, but taken as a whole, build a comprehensive picture which, I suspect, is understood by the subconscious while the conscious mind sees only the smaller parts of the message and remains ignorant of the larger programming going on under the surface.

Taken in the larger context of the alien invasion/superiority message being delivered by the other fragments linked in my first post on this thread, this particular piece jumped out. . .

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHecuxQzV6M

The imagery is violent and awful, (this is what kids are being exposed to in the name of "entertainment".) Aside from the odd visual message here and there, the video can be looked away from as the lyrics are, in my mind, the point of interest. They seem to be a very obvious reference to an impending invasion and the completion of planetary programming. --Of course, I can also see how they can be applied to the idea of the wait for a new game system to arrive being nearly over, but that seems a much less solid connection, especially considering the larger context of the campaign. A dual message provides an intellectual rationalized cover for a more potent message designed for consumption by the subconscious.

Quotes in particular:

It's almost over now
Almost over now

You had plenty of time
There was no rush
But it was your dream to be like us
You're in dreamland so you don't care
And as you wake, we're standing there.

It's almost over now
Almost over now

You don't succeed cause you hesitate
You think we're flying
But we levitate
Just be yourself
Don't ask us why
'Cause if you don't we'll make you fly

No one ever really dies
Do you belive that?

Then if not, for you
It's almost over now
It's almost over now

I think it is wise to know what sort of programming is being put in place. This Sony thing was a few years ago, implanted in millions of children and teens world-wide and let to fester in the subconscious.

The aspect to me which seems new, (that is, which I'd not personally considered), is the sense of belligerent ownership of the world which the invaders are suggested to have. --Which I guess makes sense.

Excerpt from session 970809

The C's commented on the nature of the programming and invasion. It seems to me that the lyrics above reference the same idea from the dark side, as it were.

[...]
A: Prelude to the biggest "flap" ever.
Q: And where will this flap be located?
A: Earth.
Q: When is it going to begin?
A: Starting already.
Q: Is this biggest flap going to be just a flap, or is it going to be an
invasion?
A: Not yet.
Q: Not an invasion?
A: Yes.
Q: So, it will just be inciting people to frenzies of speculation...
A: Invasion happens when programming is complete...
Q: What programming?
A: See Bible, "Lucid" book, Matrix Material, "Bringers of the Dawn,"
and many other sources then cross reference...
Q: Well, if something is fairly imminent, we are not gonna have time
to do all the things you have suggested that we do!
A: Yes you will, most likely.
Q: Well, we are supposed to build a pool, a maze, a
psychomantium, to build a database, get a Nobel Prize... a LOT of
things in the works here.... This just sort of takes the heart right out
of me!
A: Not so!
Q: Well, are we going to have time to do all these things?
A: All these things were suggested for this reason, among others.
Q: So, all the things you have suggested are to get us ready for this
event?
A: Yes.
Q: Well, we better get moving! We don't have time to mess around!
A: You will proceed as needed; you cannot force these events or
alter the Grand Destiny.

****Edited for clarity.

 

[cubbex]

I think this is good to know, and morw with the last session from te cs' referring to be clean. Now that you talk the sony propaganda, is kind of weird, yes indeed, they do what you say, as microsoft on the xbox. But the interesting part is even doing the alien and violence ads, is that sony is not progressing with it, the contrary, is getting worse, there is always someone kicking sony company. But what about Microsoft?? Microsoft is doing very good in its own, and yes adding propaganda about aliens, but maybe not in the way sony does... like in some videogame that is going to be released, and not just in my opinion, but this game is for adults, look at the extremely violence, but before as woodsman said, be careful I recommend:

_http://youtu.be/dJNqN20L9ts

The problem is that not just adults play this, and you may imagine the kind of adults playing this, but in my school, almost every kid at 13 or 14 talk to me about this game, and the problem is that the parents let the kids play this, and what this is doing is that is accustoming children to violence and to coldness. And I mean, an adult is different, the adult -yeah with exceptions - discern from videogames violence, but a child doesn't, and worst if the child's parents bought the game. And is like giving the child its candy, just to keep it in silence, doing bad for the child's health.

And almost every videogame has violence, except those about sports and whatever topic not related with violence like animals or mental agility.