Anneke Lucas Interview

[Z...]

I watched this woman speak before but never in so much detail .
I think she is incredible human being - having managed to transcend unspeakable horrors and trauma.
I also think we can safely assume that most celebrities these days are part of this program.
She also names Justin Trudeau’s father which makes so much sense.
The interviewer is somewhat annoying as he clearly doesn’t grok the layers of everything she went through.

Definitely recommend to watch it.

 

[AzarHyun]

Survivor’s harrowing tale connects billionaire David Rockefeller and former Canadian PM Pierre Trudeau to global paedophile network.
In a chilling and unprecedented viral interview with Patrick Bet-David of the PBD Podcast, Anneke Lucas, a survivor of childhood trafficking, revealed harrowing details of her experiences within what she describes as a global network of elite paedophiles.

Lucas, who claims to have been trafficked by her mother into a Belgian paedophile ring at the age of six, shared stories that connect high-profile figures to her abuse, including former Belgian Prime Minister Paul Vanden Boeynants and the late billionaire and “Father of Big Pharma” David Rockefeller.

Lucas began her story with her childhood in Belgium, where she was allegedly sold by her mother to high-profile figures for sexual exploitation. She recounts being taken to various events, including one at a castle where she encountered severe abuse. Paul Vanden Boeynants, who later became Belgium’s Prime Minister, was implicated as a key figure in this network, using children for blackmail and to initiate new members into the fold.

The interview took a darker turn when Lucas spoke about her interactions with David Rockefeller, whom she met at the age of nine. Rockefeller, according to Lucas, saw her potential as part of an elite sex slave system aimed at controlling influential men through seduction and blackmail. She described being trained in mind control techniques by a German doctor, Hans Harmsen, linked to eugenics practices during Nazi Germany, to serve as a spy within this network.

Lucas’s revelations extend beyond political figures to include entertainers she met at gatherings organised by this secretive group. Although she refrained from naming living individuals due to legal and personal safety concerns, she hinted at the involvement of celebrities, suggesting a widespread operation that spans continents and includes both political and entertainment Hollywood elites.

The interview has sparked a significant public reaction, with many calling for further investigations into these allegations. While some of the accused are deceased, the implications for the survivors and the potential for ongoing activities by similar networks remain a grave concern. Lucas’s story adds to the growing discourse around child trafficking and the dark underbelly of elite societies, echoing recent high-profile cases like that of Jeffrey Epstein.

Bet-David addressed the urgency of addressing child trafficking, citing FBI statistics on missing children in the U.S, who number in the hundreds of thousands. He urged for more attention, resources, and legal frameworks to combat these issues. Lucas, on her part, has dedicated years to healing and now works with other survivors, aiming to shed light on these dark practices and promote healing and justice.

Her book, Quest for Love offers a detailed account of her experiences and healing journey. Bet-David encouraged viewers to support Lucas by purchasing her book, linking to it in his video description, hoping to bring more awareness and perhaps inspire change or further legal scrutiny into these networks.


Paul Vanden Boeynants
Anneke Lucas identified Paul Vanden Boeynants, the former Belgian Minister of National Defense and a two-time Prime Minister, as the head of the pedophile network in Belgium where she was initially trafficked. Lucas was introduced to Vanden Boeynants through her mother, who drove her to various “events” where she was abused. Vanden Boeynants allegedly used her and other children for blackmail purposes, leveraging their vulnerability to control or influence new members of the network. His position of power in Belgium’s political landscape provided him with the influence to orchestrate these gatherings, often held in secluded locations like castles, where Lucas experienced some of her most traumatic abuses.

Lucas described Vanden Boeynants as treating her with disdain, often as if she were nothing more than an object for exploitation. This treatment was part of a broader pattern where she was made to feel worthless, a tactic used to break the spirit of the children involved, ensuring their compliance and silence.

David Rockefeller
Lucas’s interactions with David Rockefeller were particularly detailed in her recounting. At the age of nine, she was brought to the U.S. where she was trained in various estates owned by Rockefeller, with the intention of turning her into what she described as an “elite sex slave.” This training involved not only sexual grooming but also lessons in elite etiquette, aiming to make her comfortable in high society environments to better facilitate her role as a spy and seductress among influential men.

Rockefeller, according to Lucas, saw her as a project, someone he could mold into a tool of influence. She spoke of an instance where she was taken to meet a member of the Rothschild family on an island off the U.S. northeast coast, suggesting a wider network involvement. Her training included mind control techniques in Germany, where she was subjected to harsh psychological manipulation to ensure her loyalty and effectiveness in her future roles.

Hans Harmsen
Hans Harmsen was mentioned in relation to the mind control training Lucas underwent in Heidelberg, Germany. Described as a doctor with a background in eugenics from Nazi Germany, Harmsen’s role was to ensure that victims like Lucas were not just physically but mentally conditioned for compliance. Lucas recounted how Harmsen used methods like forced observation of films to predict and control behaviours, employing extreme measures like strangulation to enforce learning through fear and near-death experiences. This training was part of a larger strategy to create programmable assets for the network’s use.

The Broader Network
While Lucas was cautious about naming living individuals, she alluded to encounters with other notable figures during events organised by this network. One such event was described near Lake Como in Italy, where she was exposed to a mix of politicians, celebrities, and aristocrats. Here, she was used in various ways, from performing to direct abuse.

The interactions she described with these figures often involved her being used to test or exploit their weaknesses, a method used to gather blackmail material or to ensure their continued cooperation within the network.

Pierre Trudeau
Lucas mentioned encountering Pierre Trudeau, the father of current Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, during one of the events she was trafficked to. She described this interaction as one of the most terrifying experiences of her life, stating, “I said that I could never please him as long as I was alive,” indicating the level of fear and trauma associated with that encounter. This interaction was part of her role where she was expected to report back on the weaknesses or preferences of the men she was forced to be with, information which could be used for blackmail or manipulation by the network leaders like David Rockefeller.

 

[Z...]

Survivor’s harrowing tale connects billionaire David Rockefeller and former Canadian PM Pierre Trudeau to global paedophile network.
In a chilling and unprecedented viral interview with Patrick Bet-David of the PBD Podcast, Anneke Lucas, a survivor of childhood trafficking, revealed harrowing details of her experiences within what she describes as a global network of elite paedophiles.

Lucas, who claims to have been trafficked by her mother into a Belgian paedophile ring at the age of six, shared stories that connect high-profile figures to her abuse, including former Belgian Prime Minister Paul Vanden Boeynants and the late billionaire and “Father of Big Pharma” David Rockefeller.

Lucas began her story with her childhood in Belgium, where she was allegedly sold by her mother to high-profile figures for sexual exploitation. She recounts being taken to various events, including one at a castle where she encountered severe abuse. Paul Vanden Boeynants, who later became Belgium’s Prime Minister, was implicated as a key figure in this network, using children for blackmail and to initiate new members into the fold.

The interview took a darker turn when Lucas spoke about her interactions with David Rockefeller, whom she met at the age of nine. Rockefeller, according to Lucas, saw her potential as part of an elite sex slave system aimed at controlling influential men through seduction and blackmail. She described being trained in mind control techniques by a German doctor, Hans Harmsen, linked to eugenics practices during Nazi Germany, to serve as a spy within this network.

Lucas’s revelations extend beyond political figures to include entertainers she met at gatherings organised by this secretive group. Although she refrained from naming living individuals due to legal and personal safety concerns, she hinted at the involvement of celebrities, suggesting a widespread operation that spans continents and includes both political and entertainment Hollywood elites.

The interview has sparked a significant public reaction, with many calling for further investigations into these allegations. While some of the accused are deceased, the implications for the survivors and the potential for ongoing activities by similar networks remain a grave concern. Lucas’s story adds to the growing discourse around child trafficking and the dark underbelly of elite societies, echoing recent high-profile cases like that of Jeffrey Epstein.

Bet-David addressed the urgency of addressing child trafficking, citing FBI statistics on missing children in the U.S, who number in the hundreds of thousands. He urged for more attention, resources, and legal frameworks to combat these issues. Lucas, on her part, has dedicated years to healing and now works with other survivors, aiming to shed light on these dark practices and promote healing and justice.

Her book, Quest for Love offers a detailed account of her experiences and healing journey. Bet-David encouraged viewers to support Lucas by purchasing her book, linking to it in his video description, hoping to bring more awareness and perhaps inspire change or further legal scrutiny into these networks.


Paul Vanden Boeynants
Anneke Lucas identified Paul Vanden Boeynants, the former Belgian Minister of National Defense and a two-time Prime Minister, as the head of the pedophile network in Belgium where she was initially trafficked. Lucas was introduced to Vanden Boeynants through her mother, who drove her to various “events” where she was abused. Vanden Boeynants allegedly used her and other children for blackmail purposes, leveraging their vulnerability to control or influence new members of the network. His position of power in Belgium’s political landscape provided him with the influence to orchestrate these gatherings, often held in secluded locations like castles, where Lucas experienced some of her most traumatic abuses.

Lucas described Vanden Boeynants as treating her with disdain, often as if she were nothing more than an object for exploitation. This treatment was part of a broader pattern where she was made to feel worthless, a tactic used to break the spirit of the children involved, ensuring their compliance and silence.

David Rockefeller
Lucas’s interactions with David Rockefeller were particularly detailed in her recounting. At the age of nine, she was brought to the U.S. where she was trained in various estates owned by Rockefeller, with the intention of turning her into what she described as an “elite sex slave.” This training involved not only sexual grooming but also lessons in elite etiquette, aiming to make her comfortable in high society environments to better facilitate her role as a spy and seductress among influential men.

Rockefeller, according to Lucas, saw her as a project, someone he could mold into a tool of influence. She spoke of an instance where she was taken to meet a member of the Rothschild family on an island off the U.S. northeast coast, suggesting a wider network involvement. Her training included mind control techniques in Germany, where she was subjected to harsh psychological manipulation to ensure her loyalty and effectiveness in her future roles.

Hans Harmsen
Hans Harmsen was mentioned in relation to the mind control training Lucas underwent in Heidelberg, Germany. Described as a doctor with a background in eugenics from Nazi Germany, Harmsen’s role was to ensure that victims like Lucas were not just physically but mentally conditioned for compliance. Lucas recounted how Harmsen used methods like forced observation of films to predict and control behaviours, employing extreme measures like strangulation to enforce learning through fear and near-death experiences. This training was part of a larger strategy to create programmable assets for the network’s use.

The Broader Network
While Lucas was cautious about naming living individuals, she alluded to encounters with other notable figures during events organised by this network. One such event was described near Lake Como in Italy, where she was exposed to a mix of politicians, celebrities, and aristocrats. Here, she was used in various ways, from performing to direct abuse.

The interactions she described with these figures often involved her being used to test or exploit their weaknesses, a method used to gather blackmail material or to ensure their continued cooperation within the network.

Pierre Trudeau
Lucas mentioned encountering Pierre Trudeau, the father of current Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, during one of the events she was trafficked to. She described this interaction as one of the most terrifying experiences of her life, stating, “I said that I could never please him as long as I was alive,” indicating the level of fear and trauma associated with that encounter. This interaction was part of her role where she was expected to report back on the weaknesses or preferences of the men she was forced to be with, information which could be used for blackmail or manipulation by the network leaders like David Rockefeller.

Thanks for the summary.

 

[Oxajil]

Thanks for sharing, that was an interesting interview. I agree the interviewer was pretty ignorant though. A couple of years ago I watched a 4 hour interview with her that was in Flemish/Dutch where she mentioned the horrifying details that she went through. She didn't mention them in this interview but that's understandable as it's beyond disturbing, and difficult for her to talk about. There are similarities between what she has shared, and what I've heard child trafficking survivor Ally Carter say (if I remember correctly) and what Isaac Kappy has said. There are some pretty sick people out there, and I hope this reaches the attention of more and more people. Hopefully more survivors will speak out.

 

[Elisasheva]

I'd like to share different interview with her, maybe it's more of a conversation than interview though, the interviewer is a very open minded, smart and sensitive guy and I really enjoyed their interaction. She also described some details about horrible things those people did to her and other kids. I see honest emotions in her eyes and I'm pretty convinced what she describes really happened. She also mentions that they wanted her to become some kind of a celebrity in the end, which is interesting.

She said her mother was driving her on and off the place where they abused her, which got me thinking about how other young celebrities could in fact be "visiting" such facilities without anyone noticing - attending school and other activities while at the same time having their mind more and more controlled.

 

[Bastian]

Hello, and thank you Z... for tackling this subject.

I read/hear infos about her since around 2016. In the beginning, I believed her and her story in the details. But, since a few years, after viewing/listening to some of her videos, I now have a bad gut feeling/intuition about her.

I haven't yet watched the two videos (2h and 4h) mentioned supra, and I doubt that I'll find the time to do so in the near future, sorry.

She also described some details about horrible things those people did to her and other kids. I see honest emotions in her eyes and I'm pretty convinced what she describes really happened.

My question now is : is she really authentic, or is she a good actress ? Or (worse) a kind of narcissistic/psychopath ?!
More details below.

She said her mother was driving her on and off the place where they abused her, which got me thinking about how other young celebrities could in fact be "visiting" such facilities without anyone noticing - attending school and other activities while at the same time having their mind more and more controlled.

Well, in the recent Sean Combs (AKA Puff Daddy, or Diddy) scandal/affair, apparently (at least) two "stars" were raped by him, while being children or teenagers : Usher and Justin Bieber.
I now believe that many, maybe most, of the top singers, actress (and actors ?), models, etc. went through such a treatment...

Now, to come back to the main topic. I was intending to create a thread about what follows.

This year, the French director Pierre Barnerias, famous for 3 documentary movies about the Covid-19 crisis, published a documentary movie named "Les Survivantes" (French for "the Survivors"), which has been displayed in some rare movie theaters, in France, Belgium, French-speaking Switzerland...
It's about pedocriminal networks, and the satanic one(s). In the movie, 8 women give their testimony, about being sexually abused/raped, and forced to do horrible things, as child, or teenager, (and sometimes still later as adults)...
Some famous names are given, including UK royal family : former queen, nowadays king and some princes ; an (arch)bishop of the Catholic Chuch, some famous businessmen, politicians, etc. Even President Macron, accused of raping children under the Louvres pyramid !

To my knowledge, none of them (witnesses or director) had an "accident", got killed or even prosecuted : strange, isn't it ?

I watched this movie a few months ago. As I studied the subject of pedocriminality, networks, etc. for maybe ten years, no big news for me. But I has some bad feelings/intuition (lies, etc.) for about half of the 8 women !

This movie has created some pretty inflamed debate among "alternative people" in France : some of them are believing unreservedly the movie message, while some others are skeptic about it, or even debunking it.

Among the latter, there is Laurent Guyénot, whose name should be familiar to this forum readers, thanks to his work on Israel, judaism/zionism, 911, etc.
According to him (and others), it's pure "satanic panic"; he mentions the false memory syndrom, parental alienation syndrom, etc.

He wrote several articles, or gave some interviews, (in French) on the subject of this movie. Among them :

Vraie amnésie traumatique ou faux souvenirs hypnotiques ? L’éclairage d’un documentaire de 1995 - Réseau International

L’amnésie traumatique est un phénomène de mieux en mieux admis, connu et compris. Elle est étroitement corrélée au phénomène de la dissociation traumatique théorisé par le médecin français Pierre Janet.

reseauinternational.net

Laurent Guyénot – La pilule noire

On est redpilled quand on a compris que les grands médias mentent sur à peu près tout. La pilule noire est, si l'on veut, une overdose de pilule

www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr

Pédo-satanisme entre mythe et réalité - Réseau International

ODC TV. Le documentaire «Les survivantes» est venu alimenter un certain discours complotiste qui tend à nous présenter l'élite dominante comme étant sataniste, inatteignable et omnipotente.

reseauinternational.net

Laurent Guyénot – Satanisme et pédocriminalité : réalité ou fiction ? - Réseau International

Géopolitique Profonde. Les phénomènes d’ingénierie sociale, qui amalgament des faits avérés et des rumeurs non fondées, peuvent nuire aux efforts pour lutter contre les abus et protéger les enfants.

reseauinternational.net

And in the last of these articles:

Sadok tombe à l’eau, que reste-t-il des Survivantes ? Le début de la fin d’une satanique imposture - Réseau International

par Laurent Guyénot. Dalila Sadok construit son histoire en empruntant à celles des autres ; elle «fait de la couture avec les histoires des autres». C’est en constatant cela que Claire Gabriel a commencé à douter de son témoignage.

reseauinternational.net

he mentions that a French whistleblower on pedocriminality, Claire Gabriel, give clues, or proofs, on X/Twitter, that one of the witnesses of the movie (Dalila Sadok) is lying/manipulating, has some serious psychological troubles, and is financially a parasite.
Among the comments, I discovered that another of the witnesses (Sylvie Heffinger, AKA Laroots Soldjah) is also denounced by an NGO fighting pedocriminality (WantedPedo), as lying/manipulating, having some serious psychological troubles, and being a financial parasite...

So, at least 2 of the 8 witnesses testimonies in this movie, are fake ! And these women have narcissistic, histrionic, borderline (or maybe psychopathic?) behavior. They made a "business" of this horrific subject ! How many more, among the others, are the same ?

I have serious doubts about Anneke Lucas too, and Helene Pelosse as well. (Of course, I may be wrong about them, they could be authentic victims.)
For A. Lucas, I made a quick research on the web, and discovered that I'm not the only one doubting about her sincerity. For instance, read this in English :

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/i80yp8/is_high_profile_pedophiles_accuser_anneke_lucas

or this in French :

L’histoire d’Anneke Lucas examinée

Anneke Lucas, une américaine d’origine belge flamande, nous raconte avec beaucoup de détails les graves abus dont elle a été victime de s...

petitesverifsdunet.blogspot.com

My (temporary) conclusion is that, among the "witnesses", "whistleblowers" and activists on these subjects, there seem to some "snakes " hidden, taking advantages of the misfortune of the real victims/survivors, and/or of the good will of the empathetic people, shocked by this horrific stories. Which is really twisted, to my mind. With such a world, no need for hell !

 

[Z...]

I haven't yet watched the two videos (2h and 4h) mentioned supra, and I doubt that I'll find the time to do so in the near future, sorry.

I think it is a good idea to collect all the data, impressions etc before making your mind.

My question now is : is she really authentic, or is she a good actress ? Or (worse) a kind of narcissistic/psychopath ?!

Yeah we should always approach everything with healthy dose of suspicion, however after following Aneke Lucas case for a while my impression is that she is not.

To my knowledge, none of them (witnesses or director) had an "accident", got killed or even prosecuted : strange, isn't it ?

Not at all. Obviously it depends on the case but most whistleblowers actually get credibility after they have been taken out by puppet masters and going public does provide some degree of protection. OSIT

My (temporary) conclusion is that, among the "witnesses", "whistleblowers" and activists on these subjects, there seem to some "snakes " hidden, taking advantages of the misfortune of the real victims/survivors, and/or of the good will of the empathetic people, shocked by this horrific stories.

That can always be the case but in the instance of Aneke Lucas I would say it is highly unlikely.

 

[Voyageur]

Among the latter, there is Laurent Guyénot, whose name should be familiar to this forum readers, thanks to his work on Israel, judaism/zionism, 911, etc.
According to him (and others), it's pure "satanic panic"; he mentions the false memory syndrom, parental alienation syndrom, etc.

While agree that false memory (screen memory even) is a thing, Guyénot may not always be right, and to be sure there are some who will take advantage of situation, while their motives need to be taken into account individually. As for Lucas, and one cannot know for sure, her witness statement talk was somewhat compelling (IMO).

One reason that it might not outright be dismissed, is that this stuff going on is not some one-off, it is pervasive and entrenched. These victims likely will not have proofs other than their memories and words, so they are no real threat when they can be dismissed so easily - and mix in a few telling lies, pretty soon people will just dismiss anyone who has words to say - oh, one of those, move along. No, not so simple.

The interviewer is somewhat annoying as he clearly doesn’t grok the layers of everything she went through.

Think so, too, and she would remind him that she was 9-years old when he was all but doubling down on her last name memory lapse.

I worked with a lady for a couple of decades who grew up on a farm with her mother, who I had known before she died. Now this lady is an exuberant person, full of experience, fun and joy, and then later (being in her 50's) she wrote a book on her childhood life on the farm under her mother. I was shocked, it seemed so surreal that I just could not imagine this situation year after year, yet not a word she said would not be the truth. Does a child have proof, no, they have their memories and trauma that is very real to them.

Back to Lucas, when she started talking about Trudeau senior, many don't even really know who he was, yet there are some here who very much knew of him and his life as a politician. Lucas does not just say a couple of things, she is bringing out something dark about this man that transcended even the darkness of others she spoke of. Why? What was to be gained from that? Why would one say words like this just to lie over a now obscure person - using her memories and words of those times, she may very well not have been lying.

Senior Trudeau was a master of manipulating, perhaps he might meet the definition of a spellbinder; a social elite, charismatic - a player. He would know all these people who she spoke of, and many she does not. So, in retrospect (did not see this coming), it may make sense that he was involved in things of this dark nature, yet I can't know and won't dismiss Lucas out of hand.

Perhaps others here who grew up under senior Trudeau's dictates might have some impressions.

 

[Deliverance]

I haven't yet watched the two videos (2h and 4h) mentioned supra, and I doubt that I'll find the time to do so in the near future, sorry.

I would also say that he needs to know what he's talking about.

 

[Bastian]

I would also say that he needs to know what he's talking about.

Who are you talking about ?

If it's me, I have not watched the two videos linked supra, but I've watched in the past several videos of interviews with her (in French).

Anyway, I'm not sure about her lying, it's just that I've got a bad intuition about her, and found I'm not alone*. But I may be wrong on this, for sure.

* example from the Reddit page (cf. link supra) :

I am a licensed foster dad who has worked with many kids who have been sexually abused and trafficked. My wife and I helped put an abuser away in prison for 5 years when one of our foster placements told us her best friends dad had previously raped her and tried to proposition her online. We also adopted two girls, the oldest of which was sexually trafficked by her biological mother, who was a prostitute. She was brought into their sexual acts and traded to men for drug money.

I bring up all that to explain that I have real world experience working with people who have actually been victimized, as well as a pretty good BS detector for those who have not. When I watched her account on YouTube, it immediately rang false. She focuses on the sensational aspects and ignores all of the things that an actual victim would talk about. What I immediately noticed is, she’s almost discussing it in a way that builds her up. She wasn’t just trafficked… but she had special blood. She wasn’t just used by men, but she was taken to a castle with the most political and social elite in attendance. It wasn’t a Doctor Who she saw, but it was a Nazi Doctor. She wasn’t just trained to seduce men, she was given seduction superpowers!

Really?

Really?

Come on…

This is not how a victim talks. Her story is so full of outrageous details, but almost completely devoid of any mention of the confusion and feelings a child in that situation would actually have. It also lacks any mention of any survival mechanism that so many people in kidnapping/trafficking situations like this hang onto as a lifeline. For some, it’s a hidden toy, or a friendship with a fellow victim, or hope that one day they might be free. In memoir after memoir of people who have been seriously abused you will find those lifelines…yet she has no mention of those.

Anyone who has worked with actual victims can see right through her fabrication and honestly, she should be ashamed of herself for sensationalizing something so tragic. It cheapens the hell that others have gone through (like my daughter) and it distracts from the real conversations we should be having about sexual trafficking, child pornography, and underage prostitution.

 

[nature]

interesting question, you bring here, Bastian.
You may be interested in reading this article, just released yesterday. For anglophones, you can read it with automatic translation by your browser.
Because of people suffering from mythomania, the reality of satanic pedophilia or other horrific acts risks to be denied. It's important to look at the evidence based elements.

Sadok tombe à l'eau, que reste-t-il des Survivantes ?

Cette comédie a assez duré. Les influenceurs et autres journalistes qui ont déroulé le tapis rouge à l'équipe du film devront rendre des comptes, car

www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr