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[Peam]

Thanks Pashalis, I see now where you are coming from.

It seems to me that the C's are referring to abductions which result in no return of the victim, and somebody who might not be missed so much, like an orphan and people who wouldn't be missed.

If that's the case I don't see how it would fit in with Wunjo's situation.

 

[Wunjo]

Could you point me in the direction of how to better understand "righteous anger"?

Hi Wunjo,
You may find the The Usefulness of the Negative Half Of The Emotional Center useful. My current understanding is that righteous anger is an emotion that is generated when we perceive violation of free-will. It may arise for the self or others when one's rights and personal space is violated. Usually the violation is done by entities who are perceived to be somehow stronger - be it the PTB in 3D affairs or hyperdimensional forces . Sometimes we feel helpless and scared and often sink into self-pity in these situations. However, if we can marshall our energy and let the righteous anger arise, it may help us find ways of protecting ourselves and others. In high strangeness type events, righteous anger may be tied in some cases to the concept of mental blocking .

Thank you for that reponse,
The section on mental blocking seems to have found some connection in me. I am still working my way through your first reading suggestion. I do have another question. When one get's over a circumstance, when it no longer has the emotional control over you and we are able to see it as it is, where does one put it when they are done? I guess I am struggling to understand what is done with outside infomation that you now know, but it doesn't affect you? Dark beings in the room or deaths in the middle east. I am finding it very taxing to keep everything that I learn about in the world, SOTT, in the forefront of my mind. Is the energy better spent? It seems, to me, that once you know not to go down "that hallway" because of the danger, is it ok to sort of push it to the back, with just a general feeling about it?
Thank you

 

[obyvatel]

Hi Wunjo,
I am not entirely certain that I understood your question but here is my take on this. When we learn about something that we did not know before - specially those lessons which have a big emotional impact - it takes time for the lesson to sink in. It happens naturally with time. These are often called shocks . Shocks are sometimes necessary for us to learn some important lessons.

Depending on the specific context, we can use what we have learnt through such events in future situations. In some cases - like high strangeness - it could just be that knowing about the stuff is all that we can do at present. Obsessing over it is a loss of energy. Understanding and integrating the experience into our being leads to growth.
OSIT

 

[kenlee]

I guess I am struggling to understand what is done with outside infomation that you now know, but it doesn't affect you? Dark beings in the room or deaths in the middle east. I am finding it very taxing to keep everything that I learn about in the world, SOTT, in the forefront of my mind. Is the energy better spent? It seems, to me, that once you know not to go down "that hallway" because of the danger, is it ok to sort of push it to the back, with just a general feeling about it?
Thank you

One thing I found from reading SOTT is that it helps me to learn how to think. So the important thing here might be to increase your powers of discernment and learn "how to think" by learning how to separate the wheat from the chaff and getting to the crux of the matter. In this way no matter what you focus your attention on you'll get closer to the essence of the subject whether it be politics, astronomy, philosophy, psychology, biology, history, science, etc. and see how everything is connected.

I think that the more we develop our powers of discernment the closer we'll get to the essential truth of whatever subject we are studying at the moment. Then, from that, we may see correspondences between the essence of that subject and, since everything is connected at the higher levels, the essence of other subjects as well. I think constant information input from networking is so very important in all this so that we can understand any subject from as many frames of reference and perspectives as possible. So in my view you really don't have to "push it back" since I think developing the powers of discernment and the constant questioning of things (including ourselves) will sort out your increasing knowledge, data and experiences within your mind/body in the proper way and it will be properly directed by your consciousness all by itself because of this discernment, whether it be directed to your instinctive, emotional, or thinking brains.

There's quote from George Gurdjieff from the book 'Views The Real World' that I liked which expresses this:
http://www.kesdjan.com/exercises/ask.html

(Excerpt From Views from the Real World, 'Ask Yourself' p.56-59)

Perhaps the only positive result of all wanderings in the winding paths and tracks of occult research will be that, if a man preserves the capacity for sound judgment and thought, he will evolve that special faculty of discrimination which can be called flair. He will discard the ways of psychopathy and error and will persistently search for true ways. And here, as in self-knowledge, the principle which I have already quoted holds good: "In order to do, it is necessary to know; but in order to know, it is necessary to find out how to know."

A better book to introduce people and the general public to the works of Gurdjieff is 'In Search Of The Miraculous' by P.D. Ouspensky. I think the book Views From The Real World, although a very good book, are still lectures given to private groups at a certain period of time. The lectures are given within a certain context for those people at that time and can easily be misunderstood and misinterpreted if that is not taken into consideration while reading it.