Anxiety Overtakes Depression as No. 1 Mental Health Problem
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beetlemaniac
The Living Force
Thanks sbeaudry, that was a very useful and timely article!
One of the recommendations was online CBT. I've tried it and it seemed to help me, though I am of two minds on whether to complete the course or not. The other thing that helps is just humming this song to yourself ;)
But on a serious note, I think developing strong critical thinking skills is important as it would come in useful for everyday decisions. The internet CBT helps with becoming aware of the self-negating and harmful thoughts that are generated by anxiety. With this awareness I am much better equipped to deal with these thoughts, and also better able to question them by asking myself whether they are actually true or based on assumptions.
One of the recommendations was online CBT. I've tried it and it seemed to help me, though I am of two minds on whether to complete the course or not. The other thing that helps is just humming this song to yourself ;)
But on a serious note, I think developing strong critical thinking skills is important as it would come in useful for everyday decisions. The internet CBT helps with becoming aware of the self-negating and harmful thoughts that are generated by anxiety. With this awareness I am much better equipped to deal with these thoughts, and also better able to question them by asking myself whether they are actually true or based on assumptions.
beetlemaniac
The Living Force
Yes, I feel like I know how to "surf the wave" now! It's an interesting time, I bet you have been seeing this happen in steps all along.Joe said:
There was also the following article on SOTT recently:
Research finds millennials aren't ready for the 'reality of life' - suffer panic attacks and anxiety problems
https://www.sott.net/article/355570-Research-finds-millennials-arent-ready-for-the-reality-of-life-suffer-panic-attacks-and-anxiety-problems
I guess anxiety is the end result when you are confronted with the reality of life, and you had no previous experience in dealing with it, or were consciously avoiding it.
Research finds millennials aren't ready for the 'reality of life' - suffer panic attacks and anxiety problems
https://www.sott.net/article/355570-Research-finds-millennials-arent-ready-for-the-reality-of-life-suffer-panic-attacks-and-anxiety-problems
I guess anxiety is the end result when you are confronted with the reality of life, and you had no previous experience in dealing with it, or were consciously avoiding it.
Kisito
Jedi Council Member
It's very interesting that this topic is coming now. Unfortunately I can not listen to the video in English.
Two weeks ago I was thinking about this issue.
I have a friend who makes very strong anxiety attacks. This proves recurrent panic.
I suggested that it probably came from a type of depression.
She told me that she had already had depression, but that a friend of her, suffering from the same symptoms of anxiety, was never depressed. I tried to dissuade her, trying to tell her that her friend could repress her depression. But my friend told me she knew this girl very well, and she did not think she could be depressed one day.
Also, I thought, why not admit this possibility, the one that anxiety, is not directly related to depression.
Here is what I think:
Anxiety, panic and depression.
First of all let's talk about anxiety and panic.
These are for me, conscious inner anger.
The strongest conscious inner anger, in my opinion is shame.
When hard shame is certain time, we can observe, among ourselves, or among other people, that a form of panic and anguish is taking place. This shame can paralyze us.
So, for my part, the anguish would be only the shame that one does not manage to evacuate. Stagner in an emotion would perhaps be harmful. Emotion as its ethymology indicates, must be in motion.
In terms of depression, I think there are similarities, but there are no causes with systematic effects. If we start from the postulate that depression is an unconscious fear that tries to return to our conscious state, then certainly the anxiety or panic of a past shame may surface, but also past trauma, hatred or Jealousy exarcerated from our past. Anxiety would not have the monopoly of depression.
In my opinion, anxiety would be a component of depression, but not its main cause.
Two weeks ago I was thinking about this issue.
I have a friend who makes very strong anxiety attacks. This proves recurrent panic.
I suggested that it probably came from a type of depression.
She told me that she had already had depression, but that a friend of her, suffering from the same symptoms of anxiety, was never depressed. I tried to dissuade her, trying to tell her that her friend could repress her depression. But my friend told me she knew this girl very well, and she did not think she could be depressed one day.
Also, I thought, why not admit this possibility, the one that anxiety, is not directly related to depression.
Here is what I think:
Anxiety, panic and depression.
First of all let's talk about anxiety and panic.
These are for me, conscious inner anger.
The strongest conscious inner anger, in my opinion is shame.
When hard shame is certain time, we can observe, among ourselves, or among other people, that a form of panic and anguish is taking place. This shame can paralyze us.
So, for my part, the anguish would be only the shame that one does not manage to evacuate. Stagner in an emotion would perhaps be harmful. Emotion as its ethymology indicates, must be in motion.
In terms of depression, I think there are similarities, but there are no causes with systematic effects. If we start from the postulate that depression is an unconscious fear that tries to return to our conscious state, then certainly the anxiety or panic of a past shame may surface, but also past trauma, hatred or Jealousy exarcerated from our past. Anxiety would not have the monopoly of depression.
In my opinion, anxiety would be a component of depression, but not its main cause.
Thinking about this topic, several things also came to my mind as to way this whole anxiety and depression things are going on in our society, besides of course what you guys already mentioned; lack of resilience, millennials that had everything on a silver plate, etc,.
So I was wondering, what about our food these days? It's like MSM and what we mostly see on the internet also: rubbish. So people that maybe are not familiar with paleo/keto or a close to healthy eating may also be prone to anxiety? Lacking of nutrients and so on? And the other thing is technology and what it has brought to us. Of course it has it's great advantages, used wisely, but social media, IMO, is really doing a lot more harm rather than good.. Asking my mom about if in here times of young adulthood (she is 60) these things were like now, she was telling me that very very rarely they would hear about someone, but now it's just like "the thing" to have anxiety.. :/
So I dunno if these things may also contribute, but I do believe that it is a sign of the state where we are in now.. Oh and lets not forget the medicated society we are in, cause a majority of people will just pop up a pill to "deal" with this, instead of actually doing something about it..
Just some thoughts :)
So I was wondering, what about our food these days? It's like MSM and what we mostly see on the internet also: rubbish. So people that maybe are not familiar with paleo/keto or a close to healthy eating may also be prone to anxiety? Lacking of nutrients and so on? And the other thing is technology and what it has brought to us. Of course it has it's great advantages, used wisely, but social media, IMO, is really doing a lot more harm rather than good.. Asking my mom about if in here times of young adulthood (she is 60) these things were like now, she was telling me that very very rarely they would hear about someone, but now it's just like "the thing" to have anxiety.. :/
So I dunno if these things may also contribute, but I do believe that it is a sign of the state where we are in now.. Oh and lets not forget the medicated society we are in, cause a majority of people will just pop up a pill to "deal" with this, instead of actually doing something about it..
Just some thoughts :)
bm said:
The above makes me think of a handout I received last week titled "Riding The Wave" - A Dialectical Behaviour Therapy metaphor for mastering emotions, written by Ben Caunt. I remember at the time, reading the article and wondering about how it might relate to the topic of the 'wave.'
A download of the article can be found at the website: http://www.bondipsychologyclinic.com.au/resources.
It's listed as one of the 'DBT skills' downloads.
And thanks for the link on this topic about online CBT, bm. I've since been reading a little about the difference between the two, CBT and DBT..considering which one might be best to give a try if I decide to do so.
Alada
The Living Force
Joe said:
I watched this Jordan Peterson yesterday which might fit here.
The whole thing is worth watching, and the first section where he’s talking about mapping reality/progress is interesting here. "Every time you move a little bit forward and something positive happens […] It indicates that the frame within which progress is being calculated, is the right frame. And that’s good because it’s the frame which makes things irrelevant, and you want them to stay irrelevant. So if you don’t move forward and you start to question the frame, that’s way worse than merely not moving forward."
What if (as well as maintaining poor mental hygiene) what’s happening out there is a lot of folk are waking up to the fact that their internal map of reality is very, very wrong? That they were ignorant, lied to, lied to themselves, etc? They’re starting to question the whole 'frame of reality' then en masse, and feeling the effects of that as neurophysiological feedback... anxiety.
beetlemaniac
The Living Force
That was an apt way to put it in very simple, natural terms. On an individual level, I guess the work is really as simple as learning to feel (again). It's when thought comes into the picture that it gets a bit more complicated.Cleo said:
I decided to go for another month of the internet CBT.
