April Drop Dead Date

[Laura]

And then there is this:

http://www.sott.net/article/261546-Record-setting-blast-of-gamma-rays-from-a-dying-star

Just after 3:47 a.m. EDT on Saturday, April 27, Fermi's Gamma-ray Burst Monitor (GBM) triggered on an eruption of high-energy light in the constellation Leo. The burst occurred as NASA's Swift satellite was slewing between targets, which delayed its Burst Alert Telescope's detection by less than a minute. ...

Bottom line: NASA announced on May 3, 2013 that a gamma ray burst (GRB) with the highest-energy light ever detected from an object of its kind was detected on April 27. They designated the burst GRB 130427A. They are now waiting to see if, as typically happens, a supernova appears in its location.

Since we think that the universe is electric, this amounts to a vast current, I think, and who knows what else may "light up" once the power goes on?

 

[thorbiorn]

Since we think that the universe is electric, this amounts to a vast current, I think, and who knows what else may "light up" once the power goes on?

They are expecting a supernova to light up. Maybe, this event will also result in subtle changes in the physiology, like additional lamp oil catalyst? And then the C's said they moved to Leo. It is going to interesting to see what happens.

 

[MikaelYosef]

The future is not open in some aspects. 4D STS will fail due to wishful thinking.

I respectfully suggest it's wishful thinking to assume that. The 'end-game' still has a short while to play out; a happy ending is not a guarantee. As a current observation I'd be backing 4D to succeed.

 

[Anthony]

Nobody can succeed, if either of the sides (sts or sto) becomes too prelevant the universe will balance things out.
All sto and sts are just a bunch of muppets.

 

[Bluestar]

No matter how close I follow the events, it is still jaw-dropping to see these videos:

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXUHDJlAF-w&feature=player_embedded

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcSmIO9wXiI&list=UU6Ck6N7gRst7qwkXdapbLaQ%3Fwmode%3Dopaque&feature=player_embedded

It is fidockave213 geological upheaval's compilation for the month of April 2013, which was delivered in two parts. There is simply too much of it! The amazing thing is that it is still only the tip of the iceberg!

Thanks Psyche, it sure does puts things into perspective when it is all in one nut shell like this. Interesting times indeed! Gave me chills to observe this all as well. The birds all taking a nosedive really made me go hmmmn.

 

[Mountain Crown]

Nobody can succeed, if either of the sides (sts or sto) becomes too prelevant the universe will balance things out.
All sto and sts are just a bunch of muppets.

Not sure if this makes any sense. Care to elaborate?

 

[Anthony]

Nobody can succeed, if either of the sides (sts or sto) becomes too prelevant the universe will balance things out.
All sto and sts are just a bunch of muppets.

Not sure if this makes any sense. Care to elaborate?

We can use Zeno's dog tied to a cart:

"When a dog is tied to a cart, if it wants to follow, it is pulled and follows, making its spontaneous act coincide with necessity (sto). But if the dog does not follow, it will be compelled in any case (sts).

 

[Aeneas]

Nobody can succeed, if either of the sides (sts or sto) becomes too prelevant the universe will balance things out.
All sto and sts are just a bunch of muppets.

Not sure if this makes any sense. Care to elaborate?

We can use Zeno's dog tied to a cart:

"When a dog is tied to a cart, if it wants to follow, it is pulled and follows, making its spontaneous act coincide with necessity (sto). But if the dog does not follow, it will be compelled in any case (sts).

I think you are mixing it up a bit. Who is pulling the cart? Some external force separate from what is being pulled? That sounds like fatalism to me.

Fatalism according to wikipedia:

Fatalism is a philosophical doctrine emphasizing the subjugation of all events or actions to fate.

Fatalism generally refers to any of the following ideas:
The view that we are powerless to do anything other than what we actually do.[1] Included in this is that man has no power to influence the future, or indeed, his own actions.[2] This belief is very similar to predeterminism.
An attitude of resignation in the face of some future event or events which are thought to be inevitable. Friedrich Nietzsche named this idea with "Turkish fatalism"[3] in his book The Wanderer and His Shadow.[4]
That actions are free, but nevertheless work toward an inevitable end.[5] This belief is very similar to compatibilist predestination.
That acceptance is appropriate, rather than resistance against inevitability. This belief is very similar to defeatism.

 

[Mountain Crown]

Nobody can succeed, if either of the sides (sts or sto) becomes too prelevant the universe will balance things out.
All sto and sts are just a bunch of muppets.

Not sure if this makes any sense. Care to elaborate?

We can use Zeno's dog tied to a cart:

"When a dog is tied to a cart, if it wants to follow, it is pulled and follows, making its spontaneous act coincide with necessity (sto). But if the dog does not follow, it will be compelled in any case (sts).

This reads as merely an arbitrary assignation for STO & STS to fit an assumption yet to be verified.

Also, you seem to regard conscious individuals, whether STS or STO, as separate from the Universe.

 

[hlat]

The future is not open in some aspects. 4D STS will fail due to wishful thinking.

I respectfully suggest it's wishful thinking to assume that. The 'end-game' still has a short while to play out; a happy ending is not a guarantee. As a current observation I'd be backing 4D to succeed.

That's not what the Cs said in the transcripts. They said 4D STS will fail, but they can't see it, while 6D can see it.

 

[ranger]

I'm kind of confused now, because to me it seems to be so relative.
The C's did say that STS will fail indeed. However I thought about that more as the message from STO perspective receiver.
What wouldn't be fail for STS, where lies the borderline between fail and success? - I'm not sure.
If for example we would desire to be 4D STS and somehow we would seek advice from 6D (which by definition shouldn't happen I guess) what would they say? - 'STO will fail because you will leave this place with a lot of energy harnessed from those below' ?
I don't remember particular transcript where they said something about communication, when the way how we interpret the message depends on those who are communicating. Receiver property or something. Since it is pure energy which is translated into our language.

Thanks guys, that exchange gave me a lot of thinking. :)

 

[sacriface]

Given the good quality of the grooved-over-the-years channel that allows quite a swift and concise contact I wonder how will the big improvement (mentioned by the C's) of the reception manifest in relation to this event?

Is it the changes in the cosmic environment that effect=enhance our receivership capability (DNA, for one) and will in the end be the means of improving contact?
It would make sense that if the quality of contact is supposed to improve, then They/the Wave must be getting closer and as they are, the Wave reading consciousness units improve their capacity in this feedback loop. Thus the improvement would result from the acceleration of the advancement of both parties since all this is interconnected.

It seems that they have just taken another step, is it our turn now? :D

 

[MikaelYosef]

That's not what the Cs said in the transcripts. They said 4D STS will fail, but they can't see it, while 6D can see it.

Sorry hlat, to clarify I mean the 'end-game' for this current iteration which we are all living through. I still think it's wishful thinking to assume the Cs comment as necessarily referring to this timeline, right here and now.

October, 22 1994

Q: (L) Well, since there is so many of us here, why don't they just move in and take over?

A: That is their intention. That has been their intention for quite some time. They have been traveling back and forth through time as you know it, to set things up so that they can absorb a maximum amount of negative energy with the transference from third level to fourth level that this planet is going to experience, in the hopes that they can overtake you on the fourth level and thereby accomplish several things. 1: retaining their race as a viable species; 2: increasing their numbers; 3: increasing their power; 4: expanding their race throughout the realm of fourth density. To do all of this they have been interfering with events for what you would measure on your calendar as approximately 74 thousand years. And they have been doing so in a completely still state of space time traveling backward and forward at will during this work. Interestingly enough, though, all of this will fail.

Q: (L) How can you be so sure it will fail?

A: Because we see it. We are able to see all, not just what we want to see. Their failing is that they see only what they want to see. In other words, it's the highest manifestation possible of that which you would refer to as wishful thinking. And, wishful thinking represented on the fourth level of density becomes reality for that level. You know how you wishfully think? Well, it isn't quite reality for you because you are on the third level, but if you are on the fourth level and you were to perform the same function, it would indeed be your awareness of reality. Therefore they cannot see what we can see since we serve others as opposed to self, and since we are on sixth level, we can see all that is at all points as is, not as we would want it to be.

The end point and their (4D STS) eventual failure might be set, but the future and the way we traverse through it is still open. Right now I believe 4D STS is still on track to succeed during our near future. I wishfully hope it changes, but I know it's not guaranteed. Personally, I don't wish to sit back and be impartial for another 74,000 (or more) years of turmoil and negative interference knowing that eventually it will work out. I think that's one main reason why I'm here and suspect it's similar for others too.

 

[cubbex]

If the future is open then it must also be closed. Since to be open is to have any possiblity.
I don't know if I'm making much sense, but I think the problem is the 3D thinking.

I think that it is true that for something to be open, it also has to be "closed" in some sense, it is about balance.

I agree, this last month april was indeed an interesting month. I did some experiment on making a journal on specific days, making a prophecy based on some present situations at the beginning of the month, from april 20 to 25. April 19 counted too, and just for fun I keep a track of things, some days supposedly my observations were supposed to be good days, but in one of those everything seemed to be the opposite and resulted to be completely a good day, then the next day I anticipated that was going to be good wasn't good, but not bad. Some decisions are made, but still decisions can be made again, so I guess there are 50/50 chances for something to happen, that means :P we never know for real what is going to happen, how, and how is gonna affect future events, why? maybe because we living beings create the future through constant decisions.

Also if something is gonna happen in future, the cs won't tell the whole truth, it would be so easy and not fun at all. Just like those in youtube that try to spoil something from a movie, others start telling lies about it so the others that haven't seen the movie don't get spoiled and then don't wait completely for it to happen.

 

[caballero reyes]

« Reply #133 of Prometeo on: Today at 03:08:19 AM »

I agree, this last month april was indeed an interesting month. I did some experiment on making a journal on specific days, making a prophecy based on some present situations at the beginning of the month, from april 20 to 25. April 19 counted too, and just for fun I keep a track of things, some days supposedly my observations were supposed to be good days, but in one of those everything seemed to be the opposite and resulted to be completely a good day, then the next day I anticipated that was going to be good wasn't good, but not bad. Some decisions are made, but still decisions can be made again, so I guess there are 50/50 chances for something to happen, that means we never know for real what is going to happen, how, and how is gonna affect future events, why? maybe because we living beings create the future through constant decisions.

Also if something is gonna happen in future, the cs won't tell the whole truth, it would be so easy and not fun at all. Just like those in youtube that try to spoil something from a movie, others start telling lies about it so the others that haven't seen the movie don't get spoiled and then don't wait completely for it to happen.
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Hi, Prometeo, These thoughts expressed ark in: "The Grail Quest and The Destiny of Man: Part III-2: Time, cont".

Arkadiusz Jadczyk:
“What are we really doing when we say we are DOing, in the Gurdjieff/don Juan sense of doing? What really happens?

“I would see it this way: there are these simultaneous, infinite numbers of universes. They are, I would say, virtual universes. They exist in a “soft” sense. Then, when we DO something, we follow a certain path, we “solidify” this virtual future. It was soft, and if we do something, it becomes, so to speak, solidified. When it begins to rain, at some point the clouds are being formed from a little condensation, it grows by itself into clouds. So, the point is, if we choose something, maybe there is a kind of condensation around what we choose. When we do something, other people start doing something, and this may condense into something bigger. Something that condenses in us may cause thunder, and then something may change on a big scale.
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Prometeo, read "The Grail Quest and The Destiny of Man" of Laura, is an excellent exercise.