To understand better the unfolding of the changes in our world, I looked up the topic of the Wave among the more recent sessions published after the last of the eight Wave books. In the process, I encountered the hermetic maxime, as above, so below and it became part of the title for the thread.
5 more years! 2 go! 0 new year!
We have repeatedly talked about the open nature of the future. It is always open until the probabilities begin to collapse, such as now. But macro-collapses take some "time".
Session 20 June 2009
Disguised at this point as weather. Fighting part still in other dimension. Will go to this one within 18 years. Not determinable exactly when.
Session 30 July 1994
Humans should remember the hermetic maxim can go both ways in some respects. Those who are destined to "meet" themselves in the future can now do so with greater facility due to these efforts.
Session 5 August 2009
Your realm, that is 3D and time, are a "set".
Session 22 March 2014
All stimulated by the approaching wave
Session 23 March 2013
What about the "five years to go" thing? - What do you mean? You is there! Do you not SEE it?
Session 22 March 2014
Divine will manifests through humanity. Giving rise to many manifestations of your reality - As above, so below.
Session 4 April 2015
Is the Wave going to come upon us from within our own planet? - Partly already showing signs and symptoms!
Session 27 February 2016
Is there any meaning behind the wave of birdies we've been rescuing lately - General sign of the times
Session 5 August 2017
Session 5 August 2017
Wave effects produce many unusual manifestations and chaos. - The wave has many manifestations!!!
Session 28 December 2019
Soon things in your realm will become very chaotic and strange. It will give chills to many. - Be prepared to give the help that is needed. Be together in love and peace.
The following is a comment to an expression in one of the above excerpts, though the Wave is not mentioned:
Cosmic "Pomp and Circumstance" - enjoying the show
There was in Session 4 April 2015 "
The expression enjoy the show was first brought up in Session 12 April 1997
We have said that you should enjoy the show.
Session 11 August 2018
Enjoy the show - The point was to convey the cosmic nature of the spectacle and to remind all of you that you are NOT your body!
Think of it in terms of the legendary battle between Ahriman and Ahura Mazda of Zoroaster
Session 19 October 2024
Iran was for millenia a seat of Zoroastrianism though it is now a tiny minority of maybe no more than 50,000. Symbolically, we also have the other side, mentioned some years ago in a different context, and now boosted by the large West-European countries like the UK, France and Germany:
Do not forget the cause of refugeeism: the aggression of the imperial ambitions of the Israeli-American alliance.
Session 6 February 2016
Note about the writing process
This writing of this post began for the most part with attempting a response in: Brace Yourselves For War Between Iran and Israel, but it didn't fit. Anyway, I thank the Iranian people and their history for providing a part of the inspiration. Alright, there are also many good people in the countries of the Israeli-American alliance.
Here is Land of Hope and Glory in Elgar: Pomp and Circumstance | BBC Proms 2014 - BBC
Enjoy the show!
5 more years! 2 go! 0 new year!
We have repeatedly talked about the open nature of the future. It is always open until the probabilities begin to collapse, such as now. But macro-collapses take some "time".
Session 20 June 2009
The above "5 more years! 2 go! 0 new year!" may reflect a remark in an early session:A: 5 more years! 2 go! 0 new year!
Q: (L) And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Poinonia
Q: (L) And where do you transmit through?
A: Cassiopaea
Q: (L) Is there any particular reason you made the announcement about 5 years to go?
A: Just reminding you.
Q: (L) You normally have never been date-specific.
A: This is not "day" specific but close enough for horseshoes.
Q: (Joe) A lot of the New Agers are gonna be disappointed in 2012.
A: 2012 is a distraction. We have repeatedly talked about the open nature of the future. It is always open until the probabilities begin to collapse, such as now. But macro-collapses take some "time".
Q: (L) So you're saying that there is a macro-collapse that has already begun?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Is that possible? (Ark) Umm, well, yes.
A: Wait and see!
Q: (Ark) In fact I was thinking about this today because yesterday there was three strange event. Namely, today I look at statistics on my blog, and like normally I have like, you know like, 600 or 700, you see? Unique visitors. And then, three days ago there was 1500. Two days ago there was like 1700, and yesterday it was 4000. (A**) Really? (L) So it was like telling you something? (Ark) Yes, so it was like quantum jump. It started to grow, grow, grow. It was not just one day, you know? It started growing, growing, growing, and then BOOM to 4000 yesterday. (L) Can you explain the exponential growth of Ark's readership on his blog?
A: Mass consciousness is aware and driving seeking from many quarters.
Q: (L) Well, in that respect, there's also some other things that are very strange that are going on. For example, I would like to know what is going on with D****? D**** has been writing us many e-mails that are more or less incoherent. We tried at one point to communicate with him and to persuade him that he needed to get counseling, to do something, and I don't know whether he has or whether he hasn't. But he seems to be mentally deteriorating. At the same time, I also got an e-mail today from a former member of the forum, and he has also been a member of QFS for a very short time, although he never participated - or very little - over a period of a couple of years. But anyhow, he says his name is M**** (Arabic name), and he says he lives in {Middle Eastern Country}, but his IP address points to Washington DC. His e-mails are very similar to D***'s: fairly incoherent, and actually threatening. I mean, reading his e-mail, I thought this was strange. If your name is M**** in this day and age, you don't go around vaguely threatening somebody with end of the world scenarios saying that something big is gonna happen. Nevertheless, that's what he did. And I would like to know is there any relationship between the apparent deterioration of the minds of these two people? {Added note: the similarity of writing styles actually made us think for awhile that it might be the same person. The best way to describe it is schizophrenic ideation.}
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What is the relationship?
A: It is not just "waves" beamed by such things as HAARP or microwaves, it is also a quickening of the cosmos. Those who are not integrated will disintegrate at an even faster rate than ever.
Q: (L) Are there any kinds of negative spirits or attachments involved here?
A: Not necessary when the personality is so fragmented.
Q: (L) Alright then. Is there anything that we could do?
A: Perhaps if you could share the technique that you used to achieve emotional cleansing, a lot of people would benefit including the two individuals in question.
Q: (L) What technique is that?
A: Remember an entire night of cleansing tears?!
Q: (L) Yeah. Well, that was just a meditation technique I developed. I would breathe a certain way and repeat certain things in my mind as I breathed, and I did it every night. Strange things started happening.
A: Strange indeed! You stumbled instinctively on an ancient method that is unsurpassed in its efficacy. So why not share?
Disguised at this point as weather. Fighting part still in other dimension. Will go to this one within 18 years. Not determinable exactly when.
Session 30 July 1994
Regarding the recommendation to explore meditation, Éiriú-Eolas was created and few weeks later there was a discussion of the effects, where one encounters:Q: (L) Will there be atomic war?
A: No.
Q: (L) Will there be a war in the sky with the aliens?[10]
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Will it be between Orions and the Federation?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Will it be visible on earth?
A: Oh, yes.
Q: (L) When will this be?
A: It has already started. Will intensify steadily.
Q: (L) Why are we not aware that it has already started?
A: Disguised at this point as weather. Fighting part still in other dimension. Will go to this one within 18 years. Anytime within this period. Not determinable exactly when. Could be tomorrow or 18 years.
Q: (L) 18 years from now is 2012. Is there some special significance to that time?
A: By then.
Humans should remember the hermetic maxim can go both ways in some respects. Those who are destined to "meet" themselves in the future can now do so with greater facility due to these efforts.
Session 5 August 2009
When the Cs said: "We once said that "you in the future" could "rewrite" cosmic programs... that goes for others too. They are now learning the programming language." it is interesting to consider it in relation to the following short discussion of randomness:Q: (L) I would like to know if you have any comments to make on the progress of our breathing and meditation program for the readers of our forum and perhaps other people who are practicing it about whom we know nothing?
A: It is already having effects in other realms.
Q: (L) What other realms?
A: 4, 5, 6D.
Q: (L) In what respect?
A: Humans should remember the hermetic maxim can go both ways in some respects. Those who are destined to "meet" themselves in the future can now do so with greater facility due to these efforts. We once said that "you in the future" could "rewrite" cosmic programs... that goes for others too. They are now learning the programming language.
Q: (L) A number of people on the forum have talked about the zoning out thing, the, ya know... while still awake seemingly, losing all awareness of self and just kind of zoning out. What is this phenomenon?
A: See previous answer and think of it as spending "time" with the higher self/teacher instead of wasting the ability to dissociate on futile illusions. Also remember that "time" spent in this process utilizes this "soul ability" as it was originally intended. It taxes the soul greatly to be embodied.
Your realm, that is 3D and time, are a "set".
Session 22 March 2014
About four years after the "5 more years!" session in 2009, there was:Q: (Ark) What is the key to quantum randomness?
A: Long answer.
Q: [laughter] (Perceval) We don't have the symbols and stuff. (Pierre) We need a special board for that!
A: There really is no such thing as "pure" randomness.
Q: (Ark) They are reading my book. [laughter]
A: How could there be when all is information? If something exists at all in your realm, it derives from a "higher" realm of information. How then could it be "random"? Sets.
Q: (Ark) Sets? (Perceval) Mathematical sets. That's the answer. (Pierre) Sets of what? (Ark) Seth! (L) S-E-T-S. (Ark) Seth. You don't remember about probabilities and Seth? (L) No, they said, "sets". (Ark) I know... [laughter] (Andromeda) Seth Speaks!
A: Your realm, that is 3D and time, are a "set".
Q: (Ark) A set.
A: A set is defined.
Q: (Ark) What? (Perceval) "A set is defined."
A: Delimited.
Q: (Mr. Scott) So if you want to go to 4D, you need a bigger piece of paper so you can write a bigger set. Piece of cake. (L) Okay, are we done?
All stimulated by the approaching wave
Session 23 March 2013
Above we had "approaching" wave, but a year later, after Ukraine had begun to break up, and some unexplained large-scale wildfires had been noticed, there was:Q: (L) Today is March 23, 2013. Stormy day!
A: Just you wait! Real storms a'comin!
Q: (L) Do you mean here specifically?
A: And elsewhere.
Q: (L) That sounds ominous. (S) As in "sheets of rain"?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Well I noticed that there were so-called "floods of the millennium" in various places in Europe back in, what was it? 1997? When Hale-Bopp was flying around the sky. And now we have a couple of comets. We had Hale-Bopp and Hayakatuke at the same time, didn't we? There was something else, either before or after, or right along at that same time. Now we have a couple more comets. Is there any relationship between these comets and our weather?
A: And so much more!
Q: (L) You mean so much more influences our weather than just comets?
A: Yes
Q: (L) So Earth really isn't a closed system where it would be possible for... Well, I don't want to say that. It's just not a closed system and there are all kinds of things on Earth that are influenced by the solar system?
A: And more.
Q: (L) From outside the solar system... From the universe?
A: Yes. But scientists have been blinded by being led by the blind!
Q: (L) Hmm. So you say, "Scientists have been blinded by being led by the blind." Do you mean that...
A: When science is used for killing they have lost their honor and their way. Remember the parable of the talents. The man who was afraid and hid and hoarded? Then when the master came he was cast into darkness with the weepers and wailers. Thus shall it be yet again.
Q: (L) Well, we notice that the weather has really gone freaking crazy all over the planet. There are gigantic sink holes opening up in place after place. There are more and more creatures being washed up from the oceans on beaches by the thousands - or even millions, dead. (Andromeda) Storms, tornadoes. (L) Places were tornadoes don't usually happen. Migrations. What kind of migrations? (Kniall) Dolphins. (L) Oh, that incredible mass migration of dolphins. And wasn't there one of sharks, too? (Andromeda) That was last year, but yeah. (L) Creatures being found in strange places...
A: All stimulated by the approaching wave.
Q: (L) Stimulated by the approaching wave? They sense something, is that what you're saying?
A: No, the wave and its electrical and magnetic components affect the entire solar system thus, the Earth and certain geological events; this then can lead to mass deaths.
Q: (L) We forgot to ask who's with us tonight!
A: Pronoia.
Q: (L) And where do you transmit from?
A: Cassiopaea.
What about the "five years to go" thing? - What do you mean? You is there! Do you not SEE it?
Session 22 March 2014
A year later, that is Year 1 presumably:Q: (Perceval) I don't think we've asked this question before even though it's been going on for a long time. What causes the large-scale wildfires in places and at times, for example in the winter, when...
A: Gas emissions combined with active plasmas.
Q: (L) So it doesn't have to be from overhead explosions. (Perceval) Well, we were thinking it must have been gas. (Andromeda) And electrical activity. (Pierre) It's both. Active plasma due to cometary activity, and the earth opening up. (L) Yeah, how about that gas explosion in New York recently?
A: A prime example: We warned about such things and more to come. The planet on which you dwell is opening up!!!
Q: (Perceval) What about the "five years to go" thing?
A: What do you mean? You is there! Do you not SEE it?
Q: (Perceval) Well, sure, yeah. (Pierre) About Year Zero? (Perceval) So, you were talking it being the beginning of the end.
A: Just as earthquakes can begin with one that then begins an "unzipping" process, so does the changing of realms. In fact, the two have a lot in common.
Q: (Andromeda) Yeah, all these earthquakes in California, South America, the ring of fire... (Pierre) Yeah, a lot were along the Ring of Fire surrounding the Pacific Plate. Unzipping, does it mean it's the whole plate was attached and it's kind of moving... (Chu) Well, unzipping is like starting to reveal... opening up. Outgassing and all that, different openings... (L) Yeah. (Andromeda) So is there going to be a really big event then soon? (Chu) Wait and see!
A: Wait and see!
Q: [laughter] (Pierre) Quakes and changing realms have a lot in common. What does it mean? (Andromeda) Yellowstone, too. (Perceval) Well, one earthquake can start a chain reaction that opens up the earth, and one change... (L) I would say the changing of realms changes frequencies, which can change the frequencies of earth which can trigger earthquakes. And earthquakes can emit electromagnetic signals which can create openings in realms. So, you've got all kinds of electromagnetic stuff from both directions.
A: Yes.
Divine will manifests through humanity. Giving rise to many manifestations of your reality - As above, so below.
Session 4 April 2015
In Year 2, if one continues playing with the concept of 2014 being year 0, there was:Q: (L) Okay, well, we have a pretty good list of questions tonight, unless there is something that needs to be said beforehand...
A: Divine will manifests through humanity. Giving rise to many manifestations of your reality.
Q: (L) What is divine will?
A: Energy of information configurations of infinite permutations.
Q: (Pierre) That's funny cause several times we ask about the links between energy or electromagnetism and information. Here, they talk about energy of information.
(L) So are you saying that differing relationships between types of information units of some sort... um... interact and emanate and generate energy?
A: Close.
Q: (Perceval) It's probably better to put it the other way: Infinite permutations of energy of information configurations. Permutations of information energies.
(L) So, infinite permutations of information configurations produces energy? Is that it?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Okay. So... Is there a particular reason why this topic has been brought up or announced?
A: As above, so below.
Q: (L) Okay, if...
(Pierre) As above, so below is a reference to below it's human beings... The information we believe or process has an influence on energetic patterns and activity on the humanity and earth level?
(Chu) Or the opposite.
(Pierre) Both ways maybe.
A: Not quite. Human activity may reflect cosmic processes.
Q: (L) So when the ancients talked about divine will, when they say history unfolding is a consequence of divine will, they may not have been too far off?
A: Yes
Q: (L) So there are some things that simply happen, and nothing we can do can change that.
A: Yes
Q: (L) There are cosmic processes that must take place, and we as humanity are really small potatoes in the grand scheme of things.
A: Yes indeed!
Q: (L) Do we want to pursue this topic further?
A: Yes
Q: (L) It's up to us?
A: Yes
Q: (Galatea) They're trying to give us a hint. We're trying to use our monkey brains to think...
(Perceval) Well, the last answer was, "Human activity may reflect cosmic processes." So, what's going on in term of human activity right now that we could... I mean, and once we define that, what kind of a process is that a reflection of?
A: Chaos precedes creation.
Q: (L) Okay, is that a suggestion that we are in a period of chaos because elements need to be broken down in order to re-use them in a creative process? I mean, just metaphorically speaking?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Well, that kinda leads into some of the questions that are on my mind because of various interactions on the forum. A lot of people talk about wanting to wait for the Wave. In fact, I think there was one person who said that if he had a date for the Wave, he would work on himself, but since there's no date, he doesn't see any point in doing that.
A: The "Wave" is in process. Remember your principle of scale.
Q: (L) You mean the one that I wrote when I was doing Noah?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Okay, that principle of scale was basically that when a quantum wave collapse occurs at the atomic scale, it's like nearly instantaneous because of the smallness of the system.
(Pierre) Macro scale takes more time.
(L) Yes. A wave or a phase transition at the macrocosmic scale would take place over a period of time. So, that reminds me of the session back I think it was in 1995, because I just recently re-read it, and it was about the dying off of the frogs. We were talking about frogs dying off because somebody had reported that frogs were disappearing. We asked about this, and the answer was along the lines that that was a precursor or an effect of the Wave. In other words, what we're seeing from our perspective are incremental events that, in a larger perspective, would be more or less instantaneous.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is that the principle of scale we're talking about here?
A: Yes. And those who do not realize this will "go under".
Q: (L) So somebody's who's waiting for a specific date for some kind of big flash to happen and suddenly they're gonna go from one world into another, they're simply not grasping the cosmic scale of thing?
A: Exactly! We once said that it was a grand example of cosmic "Pomp and Circumstance". You simply do not have the full perspective!
Q: (L) So that means that we are talking about changes on such a huge scale that our perspective is that of...
(Perceval) Here's an example. They said it's a creative cosmic process, so it's basically like a giant cosmic rototiller coming through the universe and turning over the soil and spreading fertilizer for new growth to maintain the universe like a good gardener. We're like one little tiny grain.
(Chu) We're like the worms who see the rototiller approaching for hours. [laughter]
(L) We're a microbe in a hundred thousand acre farm.
(Pierre) And we feel the vibrations of the coming rototiller for our whole lives, and just now, the rototiller is coming closer.
(Galatea) And some of you are gonna stick to the rototiller blades and get blasted up into space!
(L) Anything further on that?
A: For some things may be more dramatic than others.
Q: (Galatea) Meaning what? More dramatic how?
A: Depending on karmic "weight".
Q: (Pierre) Didn't in one session the C's describe the Wave process as what is called in the scriptures as the One Thousand Year period?
(L) No, I don't think so.
(Galatea) Are you saying that for some people this transition will be painful?
A: Yes
(L) I think they said that after the Wave there would be a 1000 year period as 3D transition into 4D.
A: Yes
Q: (L) So in other words, in a sense that is kind of like a 1000 year process of the Wave. The creation of a totally new reality obviously, in cosmic terms, takes that strange process that doesn't exist called time to manifest. But obviously, they are now talking about the breaking down process, the chaos.
A: Yes. Now you begin to see what "time" really is: cosmic processes of almost infinite duration. But do not be complacent because some of these processes can be rather "quick" and devastating from your perspective.
Q: (L) Alright then. I guess we can move on to the next questions.
(Galatea) Similarly related, can you tell us how many light-years away you are right now?
(L) They've already talked about that.
(Galatea) But aren’t they move?
(L) I dunno.
(Galatea) What star or constellation are you closest to right now?
A: We ride the Wave and thus are much "closer" than you can imagine. At the same time, imagination is the most direct way to comprehend that we are only a thought away.
Q: (L) So, you're saying that distance is not a viable concept. Is that what we're getting at here?
A: Yes
Q: (Pierre) Thought transcends distance.
(L) Thought transcends distance, and we are quantumly entangled or something...
A: Yes
Q: (Chu) There's no time, there's no space...
Is the Wave going to come upon us from within our own planet? - Partly already showing signs and symptoms!
Session 27 February 2016
It is not only humans that feel the influence of the Wave:. In Year 3, there was:(Pierre) Well, I wanted to ask about this inversion that we talked about previously. My theory is that what caused the frozen mammoths and what may cause the sudden drop in temperature was some kind of Super Derecho: basically, the jet stream being deviated towards the surface of the Earth. Does it make any sense?
(L) What?
(Andromeda) You're asking if the sudden drop of temperature is because the jet stream drops towards the Earth?
(Pierre) Yeah.
(L) That it suddenly goes lower. It gets pushed down.
(Pierre) Well...
A: That is very close!
Q: (Pierre) Uh, okay. This cosmic energy coming from the sun and its interaction with its companion powers El Niño. But I guess El Niño is not the only effect of these surges...
A: Remember that the center of a sphere is a window!
Q: (Pierre) Yeah, I remember that.
A: Portal too!
Q: (L) So the energy that powers El Niño could come from within the Earth in a sense as coming through a portal to another dimension?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Or density or something.
(Joe) It's one of the effects of the Wave, right?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Is the Wave going to come upon us from within our own planet?
A: Partly already showing signs and symptoms!
Q: (L) Okay, anybody?
Is there any meaning behind the wave of birdies we've been rescuing lately - General sign of the times
Session 5 August 2017
The Wave as hyperkinetic sensate - A person who struggles with intense emotion and masters it is somewhat inoculated.(Pierre) Andromeda, you could ask about the wave of baby birdies you have recently rescued.
(Andromeda) Is there any meaning behind the wave of birdies we've been rescuing lately, or is it just there are a lot of birdies this year?
A: General sign of the times.
Q: (Joe) Does that mean that before the planet descends into chaos, all the species go bonkers breeding and having babies?
A: Close
Q: (Andromeda) Like before a really hard winter or something?
A: Soon!
Q: (Pierre) Doesn't mean next winter.
(Scottie) "Soon" could be in 10 years...
(Pierre) We've been saying that for how many years now?
(L) Yeah, soon could be 10 years.
A: er
Q: (Joe) Sooner than 10 years, okay. [laughter]
Session 5 August 2017
Going back over the previous excerpts it is evident the effects of the Wave show up both in the Cosmos around us, on the Earth, and among its living organisms. Thus, by Year 5 there is:Q: (L) Alright. Anything else?
(Data)I have one more. The C's once described the Wave as hyperkinetic sensate. I would like to know when a person does work on himself, facing one's own mechanical nature and the mechanical nature of others, that also creates sensations that I thought could be hyperkinetic too. Are these two things comparable? Would a person that works on himself, is that comparable to hyperkinetic sensate that the Wave was described as?
A: It can be. A person who struggles with intense emotion and masters it is somewhat inoculated.
Q: (L) So if you experience these hyperkinetic sensate experiences incrementally or gradually inside yourself by working with yourself, and you deal with them, then you are not subject to being blown apart by the hyperkinetic sensate Wave that comes later? Well, I mean, come on! It looks to me like we're already experiencing it. Look how all these people are acting all over the planet. If that's not a hyperkinetic sensate... I mean, you see those so-called Social Justice Warriors? When I saw the screaming woman with the glasses on after Trump's election, I mean... And the rest of them? They're just acting freakin' CRAZY! So I would say that hyperkinetic sensate is partly involved with the disintegration and the soul smashing. It's like insane. Am I right there?
A: Yes
Q: (Galatea) It could also be related to the shooters, the Florida face eater man.
(Data) These sensations are certainly unpleasant.
(L) No kidding!
(Data) Are people ever going to ask for help, or seek out help from someone who knows how to help them?
A: Eventually the suffering will separate the wheat from the chaff.
Wave effects produce many unusual manifestations and chaos. - The wave has many manifestations!!!
Session 28 December 2019
A: Hello to beloved ones. Cassiopaea calling. Fear not; All will be well! Wave effects produce many unusual manifestations and chaos.
Q: (L) So, you're saying that the recent events with which we've had to deal and news we've become aware of is all part of chaos caused by the Wave?
A: Yes
This session ends with a remark that to some extent may relate back to the first excerpt from Session 20 June 2009: "Mass consciousness is aware and driving seeking from many quarters." :(L) Okay. I guess we should ask some general questions. Maybe I'll ask about this book I just finished about Paul and the Gospel of Mark. Have I pretty much laid things out as accurately as possible?
A: And more than that!
Q: (L) In this recent book I read about Paul, it basically exhibits what Paul was seeing or perceiving in his visions, or his conversations, or his channelings with Jesus I guess you'd call it. It's pretty much what we have received via this communication. Now, this guy interprets righteousness as absolution. I would like to ask about this absolution/righteousness issue. What did Paul actually mean?
A: Something rather like what you and others have experienced as "cleansing" or "opening" of the conscience as Gurdjieff described it.
Q: (L) So in other words, this getting "saved" or "made righteous" or having absolution or whatever is not necessarily an instantaneous thing?
A: Exactly. But it can be in rare instances.
Q: (L) But for most people, it would be more like what Jeanne De Salzmann describes in the First Initiation. First, you have to get to the point where you can really see yourself, see your lies, see how you have identified with your false personality, and grow that spiritual part of yourself which is the "spirit self" as Paul describes it - as opposed to the fleshly self. Paul says that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. What he means is not necessarily that you have to die, but that it is that inner self, that awareness, that conscience, that spirit self that has to be brought to awareness and then grown and solidified, more or less. That is being "saved", so to say.
A: Yes
Q: (L) And that's pretty much what Paul says because he doesn't describe it as an instant process. He says you need to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. So it's something that requires work and time. And yet Christianity as it exists today has distorted this to where they say, "Oh, all you have to do is come down to the altar and say you believe" and that's it. That's just not the way it works.
A: Consider that much editing and confusion has entered the texts for impure purposes.
Q: (L) Impure purposes... You mean like people seeking power and control?
A: Yes
Q: (L) So am I right that the Book of Mark was an amalgamation of elements of Paul's Christ overlaid on Judas the Galilean, and the Judas the Galilean figure was completely stripped of his revolutionary character and that sort of thing?
A: Yes
Q: (L) So there was a Jewish Christ, and there was Paul's Christ. They were combined to make Jesus of Nazareth, the hippy who went around in sandals doing miracles?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Any other questions?
(Joe) Who was Paul's Christ?
A: Caesar!
Q: (Joe) Did Paul know that?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) Ave Caesar!
(Scottie) BOOM!
(Andromeda) Did we want to ask about Betelgeuse or any of these disappearing stars and changing galaxies and stuff?
(L) Yeah, there's been a lot of REALLY weird stuff going on in the whole universe! It's not just global warming anymore.
(Artemis) The stars are burning! We're killing the stars! [laughter]
(L) I mean, it's... Betelgeuse looks like it wants to blow up, galaxies are acting weird... Can ya'll remember all the different things have come up in the news lately? Stars dimming or getting brighter...
(Chu) A lot more comets.
(L) More comets than ever before.
(Niall) Auroras on Mars.
(L) It's just...
(Niall) Jupiter has this hexagon-shaped thing on it...
A: The wave has many manifestations!!!
Q: (L) So we're basically... Yeah, we need some rejuvenation. We need some real healing so we can last long enough to finish this thing out!
A: Yes exactly, and there is more work to do!
Soon things in your realm will become very chaotic and strange. It will give chills to many. - Be prepared to give the help that is needed. Be together in love and peace.
A: Now, we would like to say something of interest to all: Soon things in your realm will become very chaotic and strange. It will give chills to many. Be not alarmed! It will pass and there will be a new reality to explore. Cosmic forces will be displayed and there will be many searching for answers. Be prepared to give the help that is needed. Be together in love and peace. Goodbye.
END OF SESSION
The following is a comment to an expression in one of the above excerpts, though the Wave is not mentioned:
Cosmic "Pomp and Circumstance" - enjoying the show
There was in Session 4 April 2015 "
The Pomp and Circumstance Marches are five pieces for orchestra written by Edward Elgar. Usually such performances, if they are live are enjoyed by an audience, for which of course they have to pay which not only pays the expense of the performance and compensates the musicians, but also helps to ensure the audience is ready for the music.We once said that it was a grand example of cosmic "Pomp and Circumstance". You simply do not have the full perspective!
The expression enjoy the show was first brought up in Session 12 April 1997
And repeated many years later:A: Worry not, just sit back and enjoy the show!
We have said that you should enjoy the show.
Session 11 August 2018
Last year there was a clarification of the expression, which also ties back to the concept of battle between STO and STS brought up in Session 30 July 1994(Joe) I dunno if other people feel the same way, but these days I have a sense that the stuff going on in the world in terms of the political stuff, infighting, and that kind of stuff is increasingly kind of irrelevant in a certain sense...
A: It is. We have said that you should enjoy the show.
Q: (Andromeda) In other words, paying attention to it should be accompanied also by non-attachment. (L) I guess that's a very difficult state to achieve, and perhaps the object of the lesson?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) A lot of people are invested in it because they are attached to material existence and the material universe. They have an investment in what's going on here on the planet because this is their home and they want to protect it and make sure it all works out well. But if you can't detach from that and take a more philosophical point of view, you're going to engage more and more in the fighting and the madness.
Enjoy the show - The point was to convey the cosmic nature of the spectacle and to remind all of you that you are NOT your body!
Think of it in terms of the legendary battle between Ahriman and Ahura Mazda of Zoroaster
Session 19 October 2024
(Joe) We've been having a discussion about it on the forum ("Enjoying The Show" As The World Burns) and have pretty much come up with what we think would be the answer, but I'm just wondering if there's something else.
A: The point was to convey the cosmic nature of the spectacle and to remind all of you that you are NOT your body!
Q: (L) I'd say that they wanted that underlined.
(Niall) Yeah.
(Joe) Because there's still the element of suffering, which is more than just body suffering. The people who are suffering right now,
(L) Well, I think a lot of us suffer just from knowing what's going on. I mean, you suffer in your heart.
(Joe) As well. That's apart from the people who are actually suffering. So we have the cosmology that you're not your body and it's part of a grand plan, and all those different things, but it still makes it difficult to enjoy.
(L) I think that what they just said, it was their point to remind us. So you don't really think that we'll actually enjoy it?
A: No, who could? But you have a larger perspective that it is all happening for a reason. To restore balance. Think of it in terms of the legendary battle between Ahriman and Ahura Mazda of Zoroaster. Though it is not as simple as depicted there. Close enough for horseshoes.
Q: (L) Is everybody familiar with the story of Ahriman and Ahura Mazda from the Zoroastrian cosmology? Do you want me to tell you? Well, the thing is, is that basically Ahriman and Ahura Mazda, being more or less equal, came to an agreement that each would have domination over the Earth for a certain period of time.
(Andromeda) 2,600 years or something?
(L) Yeah, something like 9,000 years or whatever, or 3,000 or whatever. I don't remember. I'd have to look it up again. And then they would switch back and forth. There would be periods where Ahura Mazda was in charge of the Earth and things would be kind of STO, so to speak. And then during the periods when Ahriman was in charge, everything would be just spiraling down into horror. And supposedly Ahriman declared that he would ultimately win, and Ahura Mazda declared that he would ultimately win. And of course the Zoroastrians were convinced that Ahura Mazda would ultimately win, but you got the feeling that there was not really...
(Andromeda) Any real winner in that contest...
(L) Yeah, that maybe it wasn't like the Zoroastrians thought, which was that it would be ultimately the win of Ahura Mazda and that everything would be perfect, beauty and light and rainbows, and unicorns and stuff. But that was just simply the cosmic factor of things cycling around. And that means that what we are in the midst of, is we are in the midst of the getting of balance again, because things have gotten so bad, so corrupt, gone so wrong that it will take a cleansing just to set things right again. Because I mean, think about some of those libtard people. Do you think they could be reprogrammed to be sensible? Anybody? I mean, does anybody think that? No.
(T.C.) Actually yes, because I think if they hear on the media to act a different way, they're going to act a different way. But that's just me, maybe I'm wrong.
(L) I don't think they can be reprogrammed. I think that they're... oh, it's just such a horrible situation! Anyway, some of them can, surely, but I think that there's some hardcore ones that just can't. Okay, next question.
Iran was for millenia a seat of Zoroastrianism though it is now a tiny minority of maybe no more than 50,000. Symbolically, we also have the other side, mentioned some years ago in a different context, and now boosted by the large West-European countries like the UK, France and Germany:
Do not forget the cause of refugeeism: the aggression of the imperial ambitions of the Israeli-American alliance.
Session 6 February 2016
Let's see how it all ends.(L) Okay, are we done with this topic? I want to go back to our refugee problem. I was reading an article where it was said that this guy Erdogan is deliberately pushing refugees into Europe as a way of holding European leaders hostage more or less. The idea is that EU leaders are put on the spot to show their "Christian charity" so to speak to look after the downtrodden. Also, he's using it to insert terrorists into Europe. I think we've already established that there are a certain number of terrorists that ARE being inserted into Europe via the refugee stream. Is it also true that Erdogan is deliberately pushing this stream as a way of creating chaos in Europe?
A: Yes. But do not forget the cause of refugeeism: the aggression of the imperial ambitions of the Israeli-American alliance.
Note about the writing process
This writing of this post began for the most part with attempting a response in: Brace Yourselves For War Between Iran and Israel, but it didn't fit. Anyway, I thank the Iranian people and their history for providing a part of the inspiration. Alright, there are also many good people in the countries of the Israeli-American alliance.
Here is Land of Hope and Glory in Elgar: Pomp and Circumstance | BBC Proms 2014 - BBC
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