"As above, so below" - and manifestations of the Wave

thorbiorn

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
To understand better the unfolding of the changes in our world, I looked up the topic of the Wave among the more recent sessions published after the last of the eight Wave books. In the process, I encountered the hermetic maxime, as above, so below and it became part of the title for the thread.


5 more years! 2 go! 0 new year!
We have repeatedly talked about the open nature of the future. It is always open until the probabilities begin to collapse, such as now. But macro-collapses take some "time".

Session 20 June 2009
A: 5 more years! 2 go! 0 new year!

Q: (L) And who do we have with us this evening?

A: Poinonia

Q: (L) And where do you transmit through?

A: Cassiopaea

Q: (L) Is there any particular reason you made the announcement about 5 years to go?

A: Just reminding you.


Q: (L) You normally have never been date-specific.

A: This is not "day" specific but close enough for horseshoes.

Q: (Joe) A lot of the New Agers are gonna be disappointed in 2012.

A: 2012 is a distraction. We have repeatedly talked about the open nature of the future. It is always open until the probabilities begin to collapse, such as now. But macro-collapses take some "time".

Q: (L) So you're saying that there is a macro-collapse that has already begun?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Is that possible? (Ark) Umm, well, yes.

A: Wait and see!

Q: (Ark) In fact I was thinking about this today because yesterday there was three strange event. Namely, today I look at statistics on my blog, and like normally I have like, you know like, 600 or 700, you see? Unique visitors. And then, three days ago there was 1500. Two days ago there was like 1700, and yesterday it was 4000. (A**) Really? (L) So it was like telling you something? (Ark) Yes, so it was like quantum jump. It started to grow, grow, grow. It was not just one day, you know? It started growing, growing, growing, and then BOOM to 4000 yesterday. (L) Can you explain the exponential growth of Ark's readership on his blog?

A: Mass consciousness is aware and driving seeking from many quarters.

Q: (L) Well, in that respect, there's also some other things that are very strange that are going on. For example, I would like to know what is going on with D****? D**** has been writing us many e-mails that are more or less incoherent. We tried at one point to communicate with him and to persuade him that he needed to get counseling, to do something, and I don't know whether he has or whether he hasn't. But he seems to be mentally deteriorating. At the same time, I also got an e-mail today from a former member of the forum, and he has also been a member of QFS for a very short time, although he never participated - or very little - over a period of a couple of years. But anyhow, he says his name is M**** (Arabic name), and he says he lives in {Middle Eastern Country}, but his IP address points to Washington DC. His e-mails are very similar to D***'s: fairly incoherent, and actually threatening. I mean, reading his e-mail, I thought this was strange. If your name is M**** in this day and age, you don't go around vaguely threatening somebody with end of the world scenarios saying that something big is gonna happen. Nevertheless, that's what he did. And I would like to know is there any relationship between the apparent deterioration of the minds of these two people? {Added note: the similarity of writing styles actually made us think for awhile that it might be the same person. The best way to describe it is schizophrenic ideation.}

A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is the relationship?

A: It is not just "waves" beamed by such things as HAARP or microwaves, it is also a quickening of the cosmos. Those who are not integrated will disintegrate at an even faster rate than ever.

Q: (L) Are there any kinds of negative spirits or attachments involved here?

A: Not necessary when the personality is so fragmented.

Q: (L) Alright then. Is there anything that we could do?

A: Perhaps if you could share the technique that you used to achieve emotional cleansing, a lot of people would benefit including the two individuals in question.

Q: (L) What technique is that?

A: Remember an entire night of cleansing tears?!

Q: (L) Yeah. Well, that was just a meditation technique I developed. I would breathe a certain way and repeat certain things in my mind as I breathed, and I did it every night. Strange things started happening.

A: Strange indeed! You stumbled instinctively on an ancient method that is unsurpassed in its efficacy. So why not share?
The above "5 more years! 2 go! 0 new year!" may reflect a remark in an early session:
Disguised at this point as weather. Fighting part still in other dimension. Will go to this one within 18 years. Not determinable exactly when.
Session 30 July 1994
Q: (L) Will there be atomic war?
A: No.
Q: (L) Will there be a war in the sky with the aliens?[10]
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Will it be between Orions and the Federation?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Will it be visible on earth?
A: Oh, yes.
Q: (L) When will this be?
A: It has already started. Will intensify steadily.
Q: (L) Why are we not aware that it has already started?
A: Disguised at this point as weather. Fighting part still in other dimension. Will go to this one within 18 years. Anytime within this period. Not determinable exactly when. Could be tomorrow or 18 years.

Q: (L) 18 years from now is 2012. Is there some special significance to that time?
A: By then.
Regarding the recommendation to explore meditation, Éiriú-Eolas was created and few weeks later there was a discussion of the effects, where one encounters:

Humans should remember the hermetic maxim can go both ways in some respects. Those who are destined to "meet" themselves in the future can now do so with greater facility due to these efforts.
Session 5 August 2009
Q: (L) I would like to know if you have any comments to make on the progress of our breathing and meditation program for the readers of our forum and perhaps other people who are practicing it about whom we know nothing?

A: It is already having effects in other realms.

Q: (L) What other realms?

A: 4, 5, 6D.

Q: (L) In what respect?

A: Humans should remember the hermetic maxim can go both ways in some respects. Those who are destined to "meet" themselves in the future can now do so with greater facility due to these efforts. We once said that "you in the future" could "rewrite" cosmic programs... that goes for others too. They are now learning the programming language.

Q: (L) A number of people on the forum have talked about the zoning out thing, the, ya know... while still awake seemingly, losing all awareness of self and just kind of zoning out. What is this phenomenon?

A: See previous answer and think of it as spending "time" with the higher self/teacher instead of wasting the ability to dissociate on futile illusions. Also remember that "time" spent in this process utilizes this "soul ability" as it was originally intended. It taxes the soul greatly to be embodied.
When the Cs said: "We once said that "you in the future" could "rewrite" cosmic programs... that goes for others too. They are now learning the programming language." it is interesting to consider it in relation to the following short discussion of randomness:
Your realm, that is 3D and time, are a "set".
Session 22 March 2014
Q: (Ark) What is the key to quantum randomness?

A: Long answer.

Q: [laughter] (Perceval) We don't have the symbols and stuff. (Pierre) We need a special board for that!

A: There really is no such thing as "pure" randomness.

Q: (Ark) They are reading my book. [laughter]

A: How could there be when all is information? If something exists at all in your realm, it derives from a "higher" realm of information. How then could it be "random"? Sets.

Q: (Ark) Sets? (Perceval) Mathematical sets. That's the answer. (Pierre) Sets of what? (Ark) Seth! (L) S-E-T-S. (Ark) Seth. You don't remember about probabilities and Seth? (L) No, they said, "sets". (Ark) I know... [laughter] (Andromeda) Seth Speaks!

A: Your realm, that is 3D and time, are a "set".

Q: (Ark) A set.

A: A set is defined.

Q: (Ark) What? (Perceval) "A set is defined."

A: Delimited.

Q: (Mr. Scott) So if you want to go to 4D, you need a bigger piece of paper so you can write a bigger set. Piece of cake. (L) Okay, are we done?
About four years after the "5 more years!" session in 2009, there was:

All stimulated by the approaching wave
Session 23 March 2013
Q: (L) Today is March 23, 2013. Stormy day!

A: Just you wait! Real storms a'comin!

Q: (L) Do you mean here specifically?

A: And elsewhere.

Q: (L) That sounds ominous. (S) As in "sheets of rain"?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Well I noticed that there were so-called "floods of the millennium" in various places in Europe back in, what was it? 1997? When Hale-Bopp was flying around the sky. And now we have a couple of comets. We had Hale-Bopp and Hayakatuke at the same time, didn't we? There was something else, either before or after, or right along at that same time. Now we have a couple more comets. Is there any relationship between these comets and our weather?

A: And so much more!

Q: (L) You mean so much more influences our weather than just comets?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So Earth really isn't a closed system where it would be possible for... Well, I don't want to say that. It's just not a closed system and there are all kinds of things on Earth that are influenced by the solar system?

A: And more.

Q: (L) From outside the solar system... From the universe?

A: Yes. But scientists have been blinded by being led by the blind!

Q: (L) Hmm. So you say, "Scientists have been blinded by being led by the blind." Do you mean that...

A: When science is used for killing they have lost their honor and their way. Remember the parable of the talents. The man who was afraid and hid and hoarded? Then when the master came he was cast into darkness with the weepers and wailers. Thus shall it be yet again.

Q: (L) Well, we notice that the weather has really gone freaking crazy all over the planet. There are gigantic sink holes opening up in place after place. There are more and more creatures being washed up from the oceans on beaches by the thousands - or even millions, dead. (Andromeda) Storms, tornadoes. (L) Places were tornadoes don't usually happen. Migrations. What kind of migrations? (Kniall) Dolphins. (L) Oh, that incredible mass migration of dolphins. And wasn't there one of sharks, too? (Andromeda) That was last year, but yeah. (L) Creatures being found in strange places...

A: All stimulated by the approaching wave.

Q: (L) Stimulated by the approaching wave? They sense something, is that what you're saying?

A: No, the wave and its electrical and magnetic components affect the entire solar system thus, the Earth and certain geological events; this then can lead to mass deaths.

Q: (L) We forgot to ask who's with us tonight!

A: Pronoia.

Q: (L) And where do you transmit from?

A: Cassiopaea.
Above we had "approaching" wave, but a year later, after Ukraine had begun to break up, and some unexplained large-scale wildfires had been noticed, there was:

What about the "five years to go" thing? - What do you mean? You is there! Do you not SEE it?
Session 22 March 2014
Q: (Perceval) I don't think we've asked this question before even though it's been going on for a long time. What causes the large-scale wildfires in places and at times, for example in the winter, when...

A: Gas emissions combined with active plasmas.

Q: (L) So it doesn't have to be from overhead explosions. (Perceval) Well, we were thinking it must have been gas. (Andromeda) And electrical activity. (Pierre) It's both. Active plasma due to cometary activity, and the earth opening up. (L) Yeah, how about that gas explosion in New York recently?

A: A prime example: We warned about such things and more to come. The planet on which you dwell is opening up!!!

Q: (Perceval) What about the "five years to go" thing?

A: What do you mean? You is there! Do you not SEE it?


Q: (Perceval) Well, sure, yeah. (Pierre) About Year Zero? (Perceval) So, you were talking it being the beginning of the end.

A: Just as earthquakes can begin with one that then begins an "unzipping" process, so does the changing of realms. In fact, the two have a lot in common.

Q: (Andromeda) Yeah, all these earthquakes in California, South America, the ring of fire... (Pierre) Yeah, a lot were along the Ring of Fire surrounding the Pacific Plate. Unzipping, does it mean it's the whole plate was attached and it's kind of moving... (Chu) Well, unzipping is like starting to reveal... opening up. Outgassing and all that, different openings... (L) Yeah. (Andromeda) So is there going to be a really big event then soon? (Chu) Wait and see!

A: Wait and see!

Q: [laughter] (Pierre) Quakes and changing realms have a lot in common. What does it mean? (Andromeda) Yellowstone, too. (Perceval) Well, one earthquake can start a chain reaction that opens up the earth, and one change... (L) I would say the changing of realms changes frequencies, which can change the frequencies of earth which can trigger earthquakes. And earthquakes can emit electromagnetic signals which can create openings in realms. So, you've got all kinds of electromagnetic stuff from both directions.

A: Yes.
A year later, that is Year 1 presumably:

Divine will manifests through humanity. Giving rise to many manifestations of your reality - As above, so below.
Session 4 April 2015

Q: (L) Okay, well, we have a pretty good list of questions tonight, unless there is something that needs to be said beforehand...

A: Divine will manifests through humanity. Giving rise to many manifestations of your reality.

Q: (L) What is divine will?

A: Energy of information configurations of infinite permutations.


Q: (Pierre) That's funny cause several times we ask about the links between energy or electromagnetism and information. Here, they talk about energy of information.

(L) So are you saying that differing relationships between types of information units of some sort... um... interact and emanate and generate energy?

A: Close.

Q: (Perceval) It's probably better to put it the other way: Infinite permutations of energy of information configurations. Permutations of information energies.

(L) So, infinite permutations of information configurations produces energy? Is that it?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Okay. So... Is there a particular reason why this topic has been brought up or announced?

A: As above, so below.


Q: (L) Okay, if...

(Pierre) As above, so below is a reference to below it's human beings... The information we believe or process has an influence on energetic patterns and activity on the humanity and earth level?

(Chu) Or the opposite.

(Pierre) Both ways maybe.

A: Not quite. Human activity may reflect cosmic processes.

Q: (L) So when the ancients talked about divine will, when they say history unfolding is a consequence of divine will, they may not have been too far off?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So there are some things that simply happen, and nothing we can do can change that.

A: Yes

Q: (L) There are cosmic processes that must take place, and we as humanity are really small potatoes in the grand scheme of things.

A: Yes indeed!


Q: (L) Do we want to pursue this topic further?

A: Yes

Q: (L) It's up to us?

A: Yes

Q: (Galatea) They're trying to give us a hint. We're trying to use our monkey brains to think...

(Perceval) Well, the last answer was, "Human activity may reflect cosmic processes." So, what's going on in term of human activity right now that we could... I mean, and once we define that, what kind of a process is that a reflection of?

A: Chaos precedes creation.


Q: (L) Okay, is that a suggestion that we are in a period of chaos because elements need to be broken down in order to re-use them in a creative process? I mean, just metaphorically speaking?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Well, that kinda leads into some of the questions that are on my mind because of various interactions on the forum. A lot of people talk about wanting to wait for the Wave. In fact, I think there was one person who said that if he had a date for the Wave, he would work on himself, but since there's no date, he doesn't see any point in doing that.

A: The "Wave" is in process. Remember your principle of scale.

Q: (L) You mean the one that I wrote when I was doing Noah?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Okay, that principle of scale was basically that when a quantum wave collapse occurs at the atomic scale, it's like nearly instantaneous because of the smallness of the system.

(Pierre) Macro scale takes more time.

(L) Yes. A wave or a phase transition at the macrocosmic scale would take place over a period of time. So, that reminds me of the session back I think it was in 1995, because I just recently re-read it, and it was about the dying off of the frogs. We were talking about frogs dying off because somebody had reported that frogs were disappearing. We asked about this, and the answer was along the lines that that was a precursor or an effect of the Wave. In other words, what we're seeing from our perspective are incremental events that, in a larger perspective, would be more or less instantaneous.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is that the principle of scale we're talking about here?

A: Yes. And those who do not realize this will "go under".

Q: (L) So somebody's who's waiting for a specific date for some kind of big flash to happen and suddenly they're gonna go from one world into another, they're simply not grasping the cosmic scale of thing?

A: Exactly! We once said that it was a grand example of cosmic "Pomp and Circumstance". You simply do not have the full perspective!

Q: (L) So that means that we are talking about changes on such a huge scale that our perspective is that of...

(Perceval) Here's an example. They said it's a creative cosmic process, so it's basically like a giant cosmic rototiller coming through the universe and turning over the soil and spreading fertilizer for new growth to maintain the universe like a good gardener. We're like one little tiny grain.

(Chu) We're like the worms who see the rototiller approaching for hours. [laughter]

(L) We're a microbe in a hundred thousand acre farm.

(Pierre) And we feel the vibrations of the coming rototiller for our whole lives, and just now, the rototiller is coming closer.

(Galatea) And some of you are gonna stick to the rototiller blades and get blasted up into space!

(L) Anything further on that?

A: For some things may be more dramatic than others.

Q: (Galatea) Meaning what? More dramatic how?

A: Depending on karmic "weight".

Q: (Pierre) Didn't in one session the C's describe the Wave process as what is called in the scriptures as the One Thousand Year period?

(L) No, I don't think so.

(Galatea) Are you saying that for some people this transition will be painful?

A: Yes

(L) I think they said that after the Wave there would be a 1000 year period as 3D transition into 4D.

A: Yes


Q: (L) So in other words, in a sense that is kind of like a 1000 year process of the Wave. The creation of a totally new reality obviously, in cosmic terms, takes that strange process that doesn't exist called time to manifest. But obviously, they are now talking about the breaking down process, the chaos.

A: Yes. Now you begin to see what "time" really is: cosmic processes of almost infinite duration. But do not be complacent because some of these processes can be rather "quick" and devastating from your perspective.

Q: (L) Alright then. I guess we can move on to the next questions.

(Galatea) Similarly related, can you tell us how many light-years away you are right now?

(L) They've already talked about that.

(Galatea) But aren’t they move?

(L) I dunno.

(Galatea) What star or constellation are you closest to right now?

A: We ride the Wave and thus are much "closer" than you can imagine. At the same time, imagination is the most direct way to comprehend that we are only a thought away.

Q: (L) So, you're saying that distance is not a viable concept. Is that what we're getting at here?

A: Yes

Q: (Pierre) Thought transcends distance.

(L) Thought transcends distance, and we are quantumly entangled or something...

A: Yes

Q: (Chu) There's no time, there's no space...
In Year 2, if one continues playing with the concept of 2014 being year 0, there was:

Is the Wave going to come upon us from within our own planet? - Partly already showing signs and symptoms!
Session 27 February 2016
(Pierre) Well, I wanted to ask about this inversion that we talked about previously. My theory is that what caused the frozen mammoths and what may cause the sudden drop in temperature was some kind of Super Derecho: basically, the jet stream being deviated towards the surface of the Earth. Does it make any sense?

(L) What?

(Andromeda) You're asking if the sudden drop of temperature is because the jet stream drops towards the Earth?

(Pierre) Yeah.

(L) That it suddenly goes lower. It gets pushed down.

(Pierre) Well...

A: That is very close!

Q: (Pierre) Uh, okay. This cosmic energy coming from the sun and its interaction with its companion powers El Niño. But I guess El Niño is not the only effect of these surges...

A: Remember that the center of a sphere is a window!

Q: (Pierre) Yeah, I remember that.

A: Portal too!

Q: (L) So the energy that powers El Niño could come from within the Earth in a sense as coming through a portal to another dimension?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Or density or something.

(Joe) It's one of the effects of the Wave, right?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Is the Wave going to come upon us from within our own planet?

A: Partly already showing signs and symptoms!

Q: (L) Okay, anybody?
It is not only humans that feel the influence of the Wave:. In Year 3, there was:
Is there any meaning behind the wave of birdies we've been rescuing lately - General sign of the times
Session 5 August 2017
(Pierre) Andromeda, you could ask about the wave of baby birdies you have recently rescued.

(Andromeda) Is there any meaning behind the wave of birdies we've been rescuing lately, or is it just there are a lot of birdies this year?

A: General sign of the times.


Q: (Joe) Does that mean that before the planet descends into chaos, all the species go bonkers breeding and having babies?

A: Close

Q: (Andromeda) Like before a really hard winter or something?

A: Soon!

Q: (Pierre) Doesn't mean next winter.

(Scottie) "Soon" could be in 10 years...

(Pierre) We've been saying that for how many years now?

(L) Yeah, soon could be 10 years.

A: er

Q: (Joe) Sooner than 10 years, okay. [laughter]
The Wave as hyperkinetic sensate - A person who struggles with intense emotion and masters it is somewhat inoculated.
Session 5 August 2017
Q: (L) Alright. Anything else?

(Data)I have one more. The C's once described the Wave as hyperkinetic sensate. I would like to know when a person does work on himself, facing one's own mechanical nature and the mechanical nature of others, that also creates sensations that I thought could be hyperkinetic too. Are these two things comparable? Would a person that works on himself, is that comparable to hyperkinetic sensate that the Wave was described as?

A: It can be. A person who struggles with intense emotion and masters it is somewhat inoculated.

Q: (L) So if you experience these hyperkinetic sensate experiences incrementally or gradually inside yourself by working with yourself, and you deal with them, then you are not subject to being blown apart by the hyperkinetic sensate Wave that comes later? Well, I mean, come on! It looks to me like we're already experiencing it. Look how all these people are acting all over the planet. If that's not a hyperkinetic sensate... I mean, you see those so-called Social Justice Warriors? When I saw the screaming woman with the glasses on after Trump's election, I mean... And the rest of them? They're just acting freakin' CRAZY! So I would say that hyperkinetic sensate is partly involved with the disintegration and the soul smashing. It's like insane. Am I right there?

A: Yes

Q: (Galatea) It could also be related to the shooters, the Florida face eater man.

(Data) These sensations are certainly unpleasant.

(L) No kidding!

(Data) Are people ever going to ask for help, or seek out help from someone who knows how to help them?

A: Eventually the suffering will separate the wheat from the chaff.
Going back over the previous excerpts it is evident the effects of the Wave show up both in the Cosmos around us, on the Earth, and among its living organisms. Thus, by Year 5 there is:
Wave effects produce many unusual manifestations and chaos. - The wave has many manifestations!!!
Session 28 December 2019
A: Hello to beloved ones. Cassiopaea calling. Fear not; All will be well! Wave effects produce many unusual manifestations and chaos.

Q: (L) So, you're saying that the recent events with which we've had to deal and news we've become aware of is all part of chaos caused by the Wave?

A: Yes
(L) Okay. I guess we should ask some general questions. Maybe I'll ask about this book I just finished about Paul and the Gospel of Mark. Have I pretty much laid things out as accurately as possible?

A: And more than that!

Q: (L) In this recent book I read about Paul, it basically exhibits what Paul was seeing or perceiving in his visions, or his conversations, or his channelings with Jesus I guess you'd call it. It's pretty much what we have received via this communication. Now, this guy interprets righteousness as absolution. I would like to ask about this absolution/righteousness issue. What did Paul actually mean?

A: Something rather like what you and others have experienced as "cleansing" or "opening" of the conscience as Gurdjieff described it.

Q: (L) So in other words, this getting "saved" or "made righteous" or having absolution or whatever is not necessarily an instantaneous thing?

A: Exactly. But it can be in rare instances.

Q: (L) But for most people, it would be more like what Jeanne De Salzmann describes in the First Initiation. First, you have to get to the point where you can really see yourself, see your lies, see how you have identified with your false personality, and grow that spiritual part of yourself which is the "spirit self" as Paul describes it - as opposed to the fleshly self. Paul says that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. What he means is not necessarily that you have to die, but that it is that inner self, that awareness, that conscience, that spirit self that has to be brought to awareness and then grown and solidified, more or less. That is being "saved", so to say.

A: Yes

Q: (L) And that's pretty much what Paul says because he doesn't describe it as an instant process. He says you need to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. So it's something that requires work and time. And yet Christianity as it exists today has distorted this to where they say, "Oh, all you have to do is come down to the altar and say you believe" and that's it. That's just not the way it works.

A: Consider that much editing and confusion has entered the texts for impure purposes.

Q: (L) Impure purposes... You mean like people seeking power and control?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So am I right that the Book of Mark was an amalgamation of elements of Paul's Christ overlaid on Judas the Galilean, and the Judas the Galilean figure was completely stripped of his revolutionary character and that sort of thing?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So there was a Jewish Christ, and there was Paul's Christ. They were combined to make Jesus of Nazareth, the hippy who went around in sandals doing miracles?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Any other questions?

(Joe) Who was Paul's Christ?

A: Caesar!

Q: (Joe) Did Paul know that?

A: Yes

Q: (Niall) Ave Caesar!

(Scottie) BOOM!

(Andromeda) Did we want to ask about Betelgeuse or any of these disappearing stars and changing galaxies and stuff?

(L) Yeah, there's been a lot of REALLY weird stuff going on in the whole universe! It's not just global warming anymore.

(Artemis) The stars are burning! We're killing the stars! [laughter]

(L) I mean, it's... Betelgeuse looks like it wants to blow up, galaxies are acting weird... Can ya'll remember all the different things have come up in the news lately? Stars dimming or getting brighter...

(Chu) A lot more comets.

(L) More comets than ever before.

(Niall) Auroras on Mars.

(L) It's just...

(Niall) Jupiter has this hexagon-shaped thing on it...

A: The wave has many manifestations!!!

Q: (L) So we're basically... Yeah, we need some rejuvenation. We need some real healing so we can last long enough to finish this thing out!

A: Yes exactly, and there is more work to do!
This session ends with a remark that to some extent may relate back to the first excerpt from Session 20 June 2009: "Mass consciousness is aware and driving seeking from many quarters." :

Soon things in your realm will become very chaotic and strange. It will give chills to many. - Be prepared to give the help that is needed. Be together in love and peace.
A: Now, we would like to say something of interest to all: Soon things in your realm will become very chaotic and strange. It will give chills to many. Be not alarmed! It will pass and there will be a new reality to explore. Cosmic forces will be displayed and there will be many searching for answers. Be prepared to give the help that is needed. Be together in love and peace. Goodbye.

END OF SESSION

The following is a comment to an expression in one of the above excerpts, though the Wave is not mentioned:
Cosmic "Pomp and Circumstance" - enjoying the show
There was in Session 4 April 2015 "
We once said that it was a grand example of cosmic "Pomp and Circumstance". You simply do not have the full perspective!
The Pomp and Circumstance Marches are five pieces for orchestra written by Edward Elgar. Usually such performances, if they are live are enjoyed by an audience, for which of course they have to pay which not only pays the expense of the performance and compensates the musicians, but also helps to ensure the audience is ready for the music.

The expression enjoy the show was first brought up in Session 12 April 1997
A: Worry not, just sit back and enjoy the show!
And repeated many years later:
We have said that you should enjoy the show.
Session 11 August 2018
(Joe) I dunno if other people feel the same way, but these days I have a sense that the stuff going on in the world in terms of the political stuff, infighting, and that kind of stuff is increasingly kind of irrelevant in a certain sense...

A: It is. We have said that you should enjoy the show.

Q: (Andromeda) In other words, paying attention to it should be accompanied also by non-attachment. (L) I guess that's a very difficult state to achieve, and perhaps the object of the lesson?

A: Yes


Q: (Joe) A lot of people are invested in it because they are attached to material existence and the material universe. They have an investment in what's going on here on the planet because this is their home and they want to protect it and make sure it all works out well. But if you can't detach from that and take a more philosophical point of view, you're going to engage more and more in the fighting and the madness.
Last year there was a clarification of the expression, which also ties back to the concept of battle between STO and STS brought up in Session 30 July 1994

Enjoy the show - The point was to convey the cosmic nature of the spectacle and to remind all of you that you are NOT your body!
Think of it in terms of the legendary battle between Ahriman and Ahura Mazda of Zoroaster

Session 19 October 2024
(Joe) We've been having a discussion about it on the forum ("Enjoying The Show" As The World Burns) and have pretty much come up with what we think would be the answer, but I'm just wondering if there's something else.

A: The point was to convey the cosmic nature of the spectacle and to remind all of you that you are NOT your body!

Q: (L) I'd say that they wanted that underlined.

(Niall) Yeah.

(Joe) Because there's still the element of suffering, which is more than just body suffering. The people who are suffering right now,

(L) Well, I think a lot of us suffer just from knowing what's going on. I mean, you suffer in your heart.

(Joe) As well. That's apart from the people who are actually suffering. So we have the cosmology that you're not your body and it's part of a grand plan, and all those different things, but it still makes it difficult to enjoy.

(L) I think that what they just said, it was their point to remind us. So you don't really think that we'll actually enjoy it?

A: No, who could? But you have a larger perspective that it is all happening for a reason. To restore balance.
Think of it in terms of the legendary battle between Ahriman and Ahura Mazda of Zoroaster. Though it is not as simple as depicted there. Close enough for horseshoes.

Q: (L) Is everybody familiar with the story of Ahriman and Ahura Mazda from the Zoroastrian cosmology? Do you want me to tell you? Well, the thing is, is that basically Ahriman and Ahura Mazda, being more or less equal, came to an agreement that each would have domination over the Earth for a certain period of time.

(Andromeda) 2,600 years or something?

(L) Yeah, something like 9,000 years or whatever, or 3,000 or whatever. I don't remember. I'd have to look it up again. And then they would switch back and forth. There would be periods where Ahura Mazda was in charge of the Earth and things would be kind of STO, so to speak. And then during the periods when Ahriman was in charge, everything would be just spiraling down into horror. And supposedly Ahriman declared that he would ultimately win, and Ahura Mazda declared that he would ultimately win. And of course the Zoroastrians were convinced that Ahura Mazda would ultimately win, but you got the feeling that there was not really...

(Andromeda) Any real winner in that contest...


(L) Yeah, that maybe it wasn't like the Zoroastrians thought, which was that it would be ultimately the win of Ahura Mazda and that everything would be perfect, beauty and light and rainbows, and unicorns and stuff. But that was just simply the cosmic factor of things cycling around. And that means that what we are in the midst of, is we are in the midst of the getting of balance again, because things have gotten so bad, so corrupt, gone so wrong that it will take a cleansing just to set things right again. Because I mean, think about some of those libtard people. Do you think they could be reprogrammed to be sensible? Anybody? I mean, does anybody think that? No.

(T.C.) Actually yes, because I think if they hear on the media to act a different way, they're going to act a different way. But that's just me, maybe I'm wrong.

(L) I don't think they can be reprogrammed. I think that they're... oh, it's just such a horrible situation! Anyway, some of them can, surely, but I think that there's some hardcore ones that just can't. Okay, next question.

Iran was for millenia a seat of Zoroastrianism though it is now a tiny minority of maybe no more than 50,000. Symbolically, we also have the other side, mentioned some years ago in a different context, and now boosted by the large West-European countries like the UK, France and Germany:
Do not forget the cause of refugeeism: the aggression of the imperial ambitions of the Israeli-American alliance.
Session 6 February 2016
(L) Okay, are we done with this topic? I want to go back to our refugee problem. I was reading an article where it was said that this guy Erdogan is deliberately pushing refugees into Europe as a way of holding European leaders hostage more or less. The idea is that EU leaders are put on the spot to show their "Christian charity" so to speak to look after the downtrodden. Also, he's using it to insert terrorists into Europe. I think we've already established that there are a certain number of terrorists that ARE being inserted into Europe via the refugee stream. Is it also true that Erdogan is deliberately pushing this stream as a way of creating chaos in Europe?

A: Yes. But do not forget the cause of refugeeism: the aggression of the imperial ambitions of the Israeli-American alliance.
Let's see how it all ends.

Note about the writing process
This writing of this post began for the most part with attempting a response in: Brace Yourselves For War Between Iran and Israel, but it didn't fit. Anyway, I thank the Iranian people and their history for providing a part of the inspiration. Alright, there are also many good people in the countries of the Israeli-American alliance.
Here is Land of Hope and Glory in Elgar: Pomp and Circumstance | BBC Proms 2014 - BBC
Enjoy the show!
 
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The Russo-Ukrainian War is an ongoing armed conflict between Russia and Ukraine that began on 20 February 2014 following the so-called Euromaidan, a series of protests that began in Kyiv in November 2013 due to the suspension of the signing of the Association Agreement between Ukraine and the European Union.[5] It escalated from 2021 and led to the Russian invasion of Ukraine on 24 February 2022.[6]
 
Hello @thorbiorn.
Thanks for your synthesis and comments.
A little mistake there : it was 2014 and not 2024 :
What about the "five years to go" thing? - What do you mean? You is there! Do you not SEE it?
Session 22 March 2024

A year later, that is Year 1 presumably:

Divine will manifests through humanity. Giving rise to many manifestations of your reality - As above, so below.
Session 4 April 2015
 
February 26th 2022

Q: (Joe) In a session in 2009, it said, '5 years to go'. Then, in 2014, they called that Year Zero. That was around the time of the Ukraine coup. Did they mean that 2014 and what the USA did in Ukraine then up until this situation right now, is that what they meant by Year Zero in 2014?

A: Yes
 
February 26th 2022

Q: (Joe) In a session in 2009, it said, '5 years to go'. Then, in 2014, they called that Year Zero. That was around the time of the Ukraine coup. Did they mean that 2014 and what the USA did in Ukraine then up until this situation right now, is that what they meant by Year Zero in 2014?

A: Yes
When there is mention of the US, think also STS, because:
North America, - the "capitol" of STS, currently
Session 20 May 1995
Q: (T) Where are most of the tunnels?

A: North America, since that is the "capitol" of STS, currently.

Q: (T) Are there other tunnel systems other than in North America?

A: Yes.
A question is if it is still the "capitol" of STS.

When it comes to Ukraine and 2014, it is noteworthy that the Cs talked about STS downloading themselves.
Ukraine is ancient site of landing of Kantekkians. It is highly coveted by 4D STS!
Session 26 February 2022
A: Exciting times no doubt! Hollenoaea of Cassiopaea here! Ukraine is ancient site of landing of Kantekkians. It is highly coveted by 4D STS! Putin is doing service to all by attempting to remove psychopathic elements there. Unfortunately, the resistance of the power elite may lead to deaths of many innocent people.
And:
Downloading is taking place there.
(Pierre) And the struggle for the portal is indicative of 4D STS wanting to use this portal?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Why do they want to use the portal?

A: Downloading is taking place there.


Q: (L) Downloading of what?

(Joe) Information.

(L) Do I really want to know? [laughter]

(Pierre) The naughty side of the information field is being downloaded there.

(L) So the STS bad guys download themselves via a portal into the people there?

A: Yes
"As above, so below" takes on additional meaning when 4D STS, using a portal, can download themselves into people. Pretty scary, actually, when one considers not only some among the present Ukraine leadership, but also the number of world leaders that have been lining up for their repeated pilgrimage tours to Kiev.
 
Interesting and thoughtful arrangement thorbiorn, seeing all this disintegration rising around, one is well reminded of all those many precious exchanges from the sessions. And so we go on with fear and trembling, and yet hopeful that chaos eventually leads to creation of a better world? I hope so and thank you! As above so bellow, isn't it interesting that we can see a little above? It certainly gives a better view!
 
I think that is the most important thing to focus on, because we can't change the world but only ourselves.

Could the wave be the impetus for those that graduate to 4D. The disturbance/change/input that causes souled/conscious human to reach their full potential which is lowering entropy in themselves and around them. The wave raises the ships that have the infrastructure to ride the wave. This is how 3D Earth reality works. There is a "problem" or a "thing" and the human/soul/consciousness reacts or works with the thing. This interaction that times time, energy creates wisdom thus creating a new equation for the system we are in the learn from itself...The wave puts human in motion to interact with it here on 3D Earth this gives information/data to the universe/consciousness system. I don't think the wave is just for 3D Earth human but for the above as well....
 
I've had a chastening week, where I've made mistakes in my life and they've come back to bite me. A lesson in judgement and humility has been the suitable result. No complaints from me though, it's been a good lesson that needed to be learned. I'll not go into details because it's a bit too personal for a public forum, but suffice to say it's been a challenging week. Anyway, strangely my mind has turned from this karmic impact with some fairly esoteric musings. I suppose everything we do is related in some way to our souls, so I pulled on this new thread, and it was about The Wave, and how it will effect us in our collective on here.

Most of us on here have a 20 year+ history of study on myriad work-related subjects, and in my case I've been wondering of late, "am I ready for the future changes if they happened sooner rather than later?". The last week has reminded me that I'm far from the finished article, as it were, not that I'll ever be, in any case. Emotionally speaking, I have a lot to learn. But just say if, tomorrow we all found ourselves in a 4d realm, would I feel intimidated or emboldened? I think the former. I have a lot of learning still ahead of me. My chief subjects of interest are UFOs and geopolitics. In other areas I am weaker, and I don't stress over these deficiencies, I just stick to what I know. But I'm left with a few simple questions to all of you on here:

1 If The Wave hit in a full 4d manifestation tomorrow, would you be able to say in full confidence that you are ready? How ready do you need to be? Am I stressing over an imponderable?

2 Are there particular aspects of Knowledge & Being that you think are essential for smooth progress in The Work? Personally, I am okay intellectually, but I am under-developed emotionally. It is here that I place my focus these days.

3 Are you prepared to leave anything/anyone behind, if this big Wave proves to be the case in or world? Not to say you want to, but it may prove to be an inevitable part of the process...I know. This question is a little naive, but it's coming from a genuine place.

4 Has anyone considered that, upon manifestation of a 4d realm, we may have to deal with 4d STS opposition to our mode of being right away? Yes, when that time comes we'll have to choose. Easy in principle, but it may prove to be trickier in reality? Am I off base with this prediction? Or am I just "thinking ahead"?

5 I may be missing the pertinent thread so apologies if this has been covered. Has anyone thoroughly explored how our 3d STS society will be affected by Consortium control and 4d chaotic happenings in the years to come? We've been warned of the birth pangs of a new world, and it's clear that we're right in the thick of it now. However, it will surely get worse and more intense in the months and years to come. I've been musing on moving to South America following the deaths of my parents but not before. This could be a good 10 years way so it's not a current concern. Ultimately I want to live closer to the equator and not be buried under sheets of UK ice.

6 Realising that point 5 is highly moot, and no-one can say with any confidence that any particular country is optimal, and we don't know which areas will suffer the most and in which particular way, how prepared should we be for the future chaos? I have about 3 months of food supply. Should I add more, or is it not worth it if I plan on moving anyway?

I'll end with saying a big thank you to y'all on here, and to the DCM for providing us all with a platform to develop our souls via the network. I cannot shake my suspicion that something big is going to happen (in the UK) soon, and I figured I needed to vent a little. Thanks for reading, and I'd be delighted to read any feedback on offer.
 
Busy week, ey? I've found this recent summer to be the strangest summer in my memory, but in a hilarious sort of way. I'm not sharing either, lol. :D

Anyways, here's my jaded perspective for your survey:

1) Yes. <-- That's my answer. But, readiness is one of those absurd little justifications that people use to judge if not others, then themselves (but lets be honest, few actually do judge only themselves). It's like if you were to meet some river that you had to cross during some long forest hike, of which you had no foreknowledge. Do you:

a) setup camp to prepare yourself for the intense shock and unpredictability of the eventual crossing, by doing calisthenics, meditation yoga, self-believing affirmations, burning some random leaves as incense and offering to your gods, among other things including eating some of your rations and doing the lavatory business for who knows how many days, including setting up some anchored rigging to ensure you don't get swept away by the current for miles on end, OR

b) just jump in and let the river naturally carry you downstream, while you briskly waddle over to the other side of the current and just get dropped off?

You'll never actually be ready for anything, but going through the experience and getting it over is certainly easier than any alternatives.

2) Ditto. A little known aspect of the Oracle of Delphi was that the most important advice that was given to aspirants was written all over the architecture there. "Nosce te ipsum" in the Latin, otherwise transliterated as 'know thyself'. When you know who you are, you can then be who you are - always staying centered and thus attuned to not only your body but also your environment, and thus being receptive to the information of whatever presents before you, along with your intuition or anything beyond that.

This idea extends infinitely. You'll only be interested in doing things that you like; with the principle of association, you'll then be socializing with people of similar natures, et cetera.

3) In 3rd density, you leave everyone, and everything behind when you die. Being clingy limits your options for experiences down the road.

4) It doesn't work that way. STS does beat each other up. STO doesn't ascribe to that. But they've already made their choices in 4d. You all down here haven't, by nature of being 3d STS, and as such there is much competition for y'all.

You don't need the recent transcript to figure that out either. 2d plants and animals beat each other up for resource competition. 3d humans beat each other up for anything really, along with everything else that they can stomp on. 4d, well you know, but you don't know. It's via the transitive principle.

5) Have you ever tried out an Etch-A-Sketch? I'm expecting exactly what happens at the end of the video, to happen to society when this Wave thing starts going into full swing.


6) Meh. You shouldn't move unless you're expecting immediate imprisonment for some capital offense. Crossing legal jurisdictions helps with that.

You basically lose all of the utility in your area that you have: your local language/communication, your knowledge of the land/environment/culture, social support systems like emergency services, healthcare, et.c, friends/family/relations/associates....

Humans do best when they work cooperatively with each other towards common goals --- if you're an expat in some foreign country, and should things start to go wonky, social currency will be worth far more than financial currency ---> strangers are called such because they usually get no social currency. So it's really up to you, but if you can find somewhere where you can do something neat with the locals, then I'd go for that.

But a big canvas bag of rice, plus another one of dry beans will literally keep you alive if supply chains start to fail completely. You need to rehydrate and cook such things, but two empty tin cans + a knife will literally enable you to make something known as a rocket stove, which you can fuel with dry sticks found anywhere. Dank rainwater might be nasty, but if you can boil it, then its potable.

But the above is basic 3d stuff. To learn the 4d stuff, well you need to be able to observe without bias, so that you can learn the ropes, so to speak, clearly and quickly, but with enough spare days on hand such that you're not rushing into things.
 
I have about 3 months worth of tinned food stored in the house. Mainly beans and soups, but with some mild chilli/curry dishes too. It's just good to have in case of trouble as you say. I'm not about to become a full-on prepper, just wanting to take some reasonable precautions. I have a gas stove and gas cylinders too in the event of power cuts as well. I invested in most of this a fair while back, it seemed a sound investment at the time. Better to be safe than sorry!
 
Yes, i’ve had a lesson in humility last week, too … I was not as smart as I thought!
I guess, humility may be a good starting point in this journey.

My lesson was similar in theme I suspect. And, yes, I'm not as smart as I fancied myself to be, either! Just goes to show that we all have our blind spots, and only the intelligent feedback of a solid network can truly help in such situations. In real life I'm more of a loner in truth. Simply put, I just haven't found many potential co-linear people where I live. I'm 50 now so it's not really a problem, but if I'd ended up in self-imposed exile in my 20s I'd not have been happy with that! And it's a feature of that isolation which led to me suffering some karmic blowback in the last week. It's been a fun week in terms of being eventful at least! And yes, it's good for the soul to be humbled on occasions, hubris and nemesis and all that...
 
I've had a chastening week, where I've made mistakes in my life and they've come back to bite me. A lesson in judgement and humility has been the suitable result. No complaints from me though, it's been a good lesson that needed to be learned
It seems to me that continuing to learn the lessons that are presented to us is a worthy way of being ready, or at least more ready than the version of ourselves that didn't learn a particular lesson.

I have a lot of learning still ahead of me
This is most certainly true for me as well, so from that perspective at least and in part answer to your first question, I've tried hard to let go of thoughts like, "am I ready"? Yes, I have much to learn and everyday I make the efforts that I can to be a better person than I was the day before, but when/if a full transition to 4D happens is not something that I can control.
Personally, I really like the 12 daily exercises for Mind, Body and Soul in 'Life is Religion' - I refer to these often and daily try to utilise them. I haven't always been consistent in all of these, however. Growth is rarely a linear process!
As for your second question, the first thing that came to my mind for me was 'self-importance'. At my current level of self-knowledge, this is what seems to be a 'block' to making further progress.

I'm going to give your other questions a bit more pondering time, but thank you for asking them. :-)
 

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