This is the right thread at the right time :) Thank you for sharing, Perceval and everyone who participated.
[quote author=ken wilber]
Genuine Insight (7:50)
Genuine insight is the revealing of the divine nature within us. Through this insight we realize the immortal truth of pure, receptive consciousness at the center of all sentient beings. As a consequence of this direct experience any sincere practitioner sees clearly the contrast between the true nature of spirit and the transitory nature of ego. Once this view is known, we spontaneously intuit an internal awareness of freedom, no matter what thoughts, emotions, or feelings arise in ordinary consciousness. If the insight is genuine the practitioner of Hollow Bones Zen also experiences a subtle and highly unreasonable sense of joy that flows from this pure receptive consciousness throughout his or her heart, mind, and body.
Before we experience genuine insight we look out with our physical eyes and believe the world is only as we think it to be. Obsessed with ego consciousness and the seemingly endless cycles of concepts and emotional reactions produced by this form of knowledge, we perceive nothing extraordinary about the world. Our awareness is unable to pierce the veil of ego, and so we might feel autonomous, but also alone, a part of the surrounding world, yet somehow alienated from it. In a futile attempt to overcome our deep sense of doubt, anxiety, and fear, we shift from one unfulfilling belief system to the next.
Once we have honestly experienced genuine insight we look out through these same physical eyes, but we are now aware of the pure, silent nature of consciousness within. Our anxiety, fear and doubt slowly fall away, supplanted by unreasonable delight and joy. We experience others as our ourselves, feeling connected and in communion with all sentient beings. We still notice the hope, fears and delusions of the ego without being governed by these misguided forces. All of this occurs-- not in some abstract idealistic fashion-- but in a simple, direct and undeniable form of knowledge. This is the process of awakening to our inherent nature, what we call “Buddha mind.”[/quote] http://www.kenwilber.com/blog/show/535
He is the author of books like "Eros, Cosmos, Logos" presenting his w(holistic) approach called integral theory, which is based on zen concepts combined with modern, scientific approaches. For me it was the first book dealing with (w)holistic ideas. You might say reading this stuff is an early milestone in my work. Unfortunately his words are not that beautiful and not that simple compared to this thread, rather technical. He appears to be a little bit lost in the intellect, limited by his technical terms but still: basically he is heading into the same direction, or so it seems. Sometimes he reminds me of Ouspensky. I have often wondered why people like him haven't allready contacted the sott-team, since they have so much in common. But maybe he is just too identified with his own approach, that makes him blind to further steps. Maybe he hasn't defeated his second enemy: 'clarity' (according to 'The Teachings of Don Juan'). Maybe he is too isolated or maybe he went astray somewhere in the process. The funny thing is that I found this network to be truly integral, something this man seems to have missed so far.
I wonder if its basically the same state Ken Wilber describes.luke wilson said:
[quote author=ken wilber]
Genuine Insight (7:50)
Genuine insight is the revealing of the divine nature within us. Through this insight we realize the immortal truth of pure, receptive consciousness at the center of all sentient beings. As a consequence of this direct experience any sincere practitioner sees clearly the contrast between the true nature of spirit and the transitory nature of ego. Once this view is known, we spontaneously intuit an internal awareness of freedom, no matter what thoughts, emotions, or feelings arise in ordinary consciousness. If the insight is genuine the practitioner of Hollow Bones Zen also experiences a subtle and highly unreasonable sense of joy that flows from this pure receptive consciousness throughout his or her heart, mind, and body.
Before we experience genuine insight we look out with our physical eyes and believe the world is only as we think it to be. Obsessed with ego consciousness and the seemingly endless cycles of concepts and emotional reactions produced by this form of knowledge, we perceive nothing extraordinary about the world. Our awareness is unable to pierce the veil of ego, and so we might feel autonomous, but also alone, a part of the surrounding world, yet somehow alienated from it. In a futile attempt to overcome our deep sense of doubt, anxiety, and fear, we shift from one unfulfilling belief system to the next.
Once we have honestly experienced genuine insight we look out through these same physical eyes, but we are now aware of the pure, silent nature of consciousness within. Our anxiety, fear and doubt slowly fall away, supplanted by unreasonable delight and joy. We experience others as our ourselves, feeling connected and in communion with all sentient beings. We still notice the hope, fears and delusions of the ego without being governed by these misguided forces. All of this occurs-- not in some abstract idealistic fashion-- but in a simple, direct and undeniable form of knowledge. This is the process of awakening to our inherent nature, what we call “Buddha mind.”[/quote] http://www.kenwilber.com/blog/show/535
He is the author of books like "Eros, Cosmos, Logos" presenting his w(holistic) approach called integral theory, which is based on zen concepts combined with modern, scientific approaches. For me it was the first book dealing with (w)holistic ideas. You might say reading this stuff is an early milestone in my work. Unfortunately his words are not that beautiful and not that simple compared to this thread, rather technical. He appears to be a little bit lost in the intellect, limited by his technical terms but still: basically he is heading into the same direction, or so it seems. Sometimes he reminds me of Ouspensky. I have often wondered why people like him haven't allready contacted the sott-team, since they have so much in common. But maybe he is just too identified with his own approach, that makes him blind to further steps. Maybe he hasn't defeated his second enemy: 'clarity' (according to 'The Teachings of Don Juan'). Maybe he is too isolated or maybe he went astray somewhere in the process. The funny thing is that I found this network to be truly integral, something this man seems to have missed so far.
