AUTOIMMUNE DISEASES CAUSED BY AN INFECTION?

Re: AUTOIMMUNE DISEASES CAUSED BY AN AMOEBA INFECTION?

SeekinTruth said:
Just a note. Clark also says the zapper current doesn't reach very well into the intestines, the eyeball, and testicles. Also any type of parasite that has a cyst encased cycle is very difficult to kill by zapper or herbal parasite killers. There's one herbal formula for certain very stubborn parasites called Rascal (Raz-Caps from New Action Products) that can be effective where the regular three herb combo may not be able to immediately eliminate all of them.

My wife and I have both experimented with the pulsed current to kill pathogens and found that it works very well for the Herpes virus, Candida and Cytomeglavirus but it doesn't seem to be very effective on the parasites. So I think your comment that the current doesn't penetrate very deeply is a valid comment. The original approach was to use a plasma tube and I see that there are some systems available now but are much more expensive that the electric versions.
If you browse the site http://blog.frequencyfoundation.com/ you'll see that Jeff Sutherland has been doing this research for a long time and has made some insightful discoveries. For example, when one pathogen is killed it not only releases toxins but can uncover or activate another pathogen.
 
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I wonder if Cayce's wet-cell device would be helpful? Anybody ever make and try one?
 
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Laura said:
I wonder if Cayce's wet-cell device would be helpful?

It seems that these general kinds of technologies might be worth looking into -- the Cs may have also given a sideways hint about it here:

8/23/14 said:
Q: In the book The Field, she talks about the kind of homeopathic experiments where they were able to record the EM signature of a certain compound and then play the recording of that signature back to water. Then the water would react as if that compound was present. So, would it be possible to use an EM signature to reverse something like a physical disease or virus like Ebola?

A: Yes. Look into Rife.

Q: (Joe) That's the name of someone?

A: Royal Rife.

Q: (L) That's the guy who invented a machine that does exactly that. We need a Rife machine.

Poehlmann mentions in her book that the biggest challenge of treating bacteria is their ability to adapt to antibiotics (including the tetracyclines she advocates), and states (p. 111) that "[t]his leads to the conclusion that multiple antibiotics, carefully combined and precisely directed to specific organisms, will be needed in the future." But (p. 112) "[d]iscoveries of new mycoplasma strains that demonstrate stronger resistance to tetracycline and erythromycin antibiotics sustain the disturbing assertion that mycoplasmas may become undefeated in the long term." She lists these ways in which bacteria have learned to survive (p. 102):

  • changing shape
  • modifying cell walls
  • transforming into L-forms
  • mutating
  • encysting
  • conjugating
  • adopting camouflage
  • going dormant until a suitable opportunity to emerge presents itself
  • hitchhiking on another organism
  • migrating to another host
  • developing a protective (cholesterol) coating to deflect attack

However, adaptation to antibiotics is a biochemical issue -- treating with electromagnetics may circumvent some of the pitfalls listed above, especially if a way is found to breach multiple organic layers since the inner layers are the ones which allow recolonization. There is some research underway about long-term adaptation to electromagnetism, but short-term adaptation may be questionable. In the meantime, here's a link to a summary (with additional links) of a workshop on microorganisms, EMF, and detox pathways hosted by the Klinghardt Academy:

http://www.helladelicious.com/diy/2012/06/biofilms-parasites-mold-and-electromagnetic-frequencies/
 
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So much data accumulating on this thread so fast. I still haven't had time to go through some of the links and downloads, but thanks for adding those DougEE, Shijing, and others. I've been looking into this stuff for decades and still haven't been able to put together a comprehensive picture. But, I know there's some very important information about health in general, and how everything relates to each other in all this.

Unfortunately, many of those who've done very scientific and detailed studies of EM / frequency use to cure diseases have been attacked, marginalized, and their lives and careers ruined (including Rife and Clark, besides the background scientists who developed the pleomorphism theories that are also very important to get a good understanding for under what conditions microbes become dangerous to health and the body unable to launch an effective defense, etc. - all this important knowledge has been marginalized, discredited, and buried so that it doesn't get wide circulation). I had done a bit of reading and research on biofilms too about 8 or 9 years ago, and think it's a fascinating topic. Oh, and by the way DougEE, Hulda Clark also talks a lot about parasites having an entourage of their own parasites that get released when the larger host organism is killed - that's one of the reasons to do three sessions of zapping (and zapping after taking the parasite herbal program) with 20 to 30 minute breaks in between.

I also feel colloidal silver and non-ionic silver solutions (with very small particle size) are very important. Before the 1930's when the commercial antibiotics came on the market, colloidal silver was the front line defense against infections in hospitals. The good quality ones are very wide spectrum, and do not lead to resistance adaptation because of the mechanisms involved - I've never come across any information of microbes becoming resistant to silver treatments. Also, most of the effective EM / frequency techniques were very short durations (like minutes), and involved the innate frequency signature of the organism or some other harmonic/resonance way of "shattering" them, so it's very unlikely to lead to resistant strains like the problem with antibiotic overuse. And one other very important aspect is homeopathy, which has a very good track record (if one can find a good practitioner, as the more complex the health issue, the more important it is for personalized treatments and dosages, which a good homeopath can achieve). FWIW.
 
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From the above site ( http://blog.frequencyfoundation.com/ ), here is a Ted Talk relating frequencies and cancer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w0_kazbb_U
 
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Gandalf said:
I'll start the 30 day parasite cleanse based on Hulda Clarkes's original formula from her book, "THE CURE FOR ALL DISEASES" in a couple of days.

I've been considering doing something like this too, although I may hold off until we collect a little more information about how much to do and when. One product that I was looking at is ParaGone:

http://www.renewlife.com/paragone.html

SeekinTruth said:
I've been looking into this stuff for decades and still haven't been able to put together a comprehensive picture. But, I know there's some very important information about health in general, and how everything relates to each other in all this.

I know you've got some background in this area SeekinTruth, and thanks for what you've contributed too. I have the feeling that if and when we finally put the pieces together, it's going to be kind of a horrific picture -- but it will be gratifying as well to finally be able to see the whole elephant, so to speak.

SeekinTruth said:
Unfortunately, many of those who've done very scientific and detailed studies of EM / frequency use to cure diseases have been attacked, marginalized, and their lives and careers ruined (including Rife and Clark, besides the background scientists who developed the pleomorphism theories that are also very important to get a good understanding for under what conditions microbes become dangerous to health and the body unable to launch an effective defense, etc. - all this important knowledge has been marginalized, discredited, and buried so that it doesn't get wide circulation).

I think that's a big clue that this area is really worth looking into -- I've read quite a bit of biographical material at this point about some of the researchers you're talking about, and it really is a huge shame. These people could have done some real good in the world, but they were systematically targeted in every case. It's very suspicious.

SeekinTruth said:
Also, most of the effective EM / frequency techniques were very short durations (like minutes), and involved the innate frequency signature of the organism or some other harmonic/resonance way of "shattering" them, so it's very unlikely to lead to resistant strains like the problem with antibiotic overuse.

I was just thinking yesterday when I was writing my post that it's hard to adapt to something that zaps you and makes you blow up instantaneously. :P

So related to that post, I looked up some more information about the "Deep Look Beyond Lyme" workshop on the Klinghardt Academy site, and there are some more detailed notes here:

http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/images/stories/Lyme_Disease/beyond_lyme_notes.pdf

It's very information-dense and there's a lot of different leads that could be picked up (also note Hulda Clark/zapper references). One part toward the top that puts a whole new perspective on Gurdjieff's multiple I's is the following:

  • Parasite patients often express the psyche of the parasites - sticky, clingy, impossible to tolerate - but a wonderful human being is behind all of that.
  • We are all a composite of many personalities. Chronic infections outnumber our own cells by 10:1. We are 90% "other" and 10% "us". Our consciousness is a composite of 90% microbes and 10% us. Our thinking, feeling, creativity, and expression are 90% from the microbes within us. Patients often think, crave, and behave as if they are the parasite. Our thinking is shaded by the microbes thinking through us. The food choices, behavioral choices, and who we like is the thinking of the microbes within us expressing themselves.
  • Patients will reject all treatments that affect the issue that requires treating. Patients will not guide themselves to health when the microbes have taken over.

A link with pyroluria (KPU/HPU) is also discussed -- this complements a link I posted a few weeks ago on the Pyroluria thread, so I'll post it again here since it mentions mycoplasmas a couple of times:

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/pyroluria.htm

Klinghardt's mention of the hypothalamus reminded me of this excerpt:

10/5/01 said:
Q: (A) This is an ordinary question about my state of affairs, about this sleepiness, because once in a while it becomes very strong. There are probably many ingredients for this, yet I would like to know which has the most importance. What about this sleepiness when it's time to do research?
A: "Coil failure."

Q: (A) What coil? Coil failure? Do I have a coil in my brain?
A: Hypothalamus.

Q: What kind of failure?
A: Energy surge causes short circuit.

Q: (A) But this phenomenon sometimes was going on for weeks or months.
A: Yes.

Q: (A) Why is it certain activities keep me awake, and certain others make me sleep?
A: Failure has a genetic basis. [Pause] Push against.

Q: (L) What does pushing against this tendency accomplish?
A: Unlocks DNA.

Q: (L) Anything specific that would be beneficial other than just pushing against it?
A: Aging stumps the brain that is unused.

Q: (L) In other words use it or lose it. (A) But I had exactly the same phenomenon like twenty years ago. Is there anything else that will help, other than pushing against it and forcing it to unlock DNA?
A: Not really you must overcome some things on your own steam.

Q: (L) What will be the benefits once he pushes past this?
A: Faculties jacked up a big step higher.

Q: (L) How long will it last if he struggles with it whenever he needs to sleep? This is my idea but - just struggling against it. That's the only way I can describe it.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) I don't think it does any good to walk away from it. If you have to lie down, then struggle while lying down. Take a book with you and battle the sleepiness. If you fall asleep, keep the book handy and the instant you wake up, go back to it. (A) Alright, that confirms what I know. Let's change the subject. Last time we talked, you told us about 1969. Somehow I couldn't find...
A: Hair is key.

Q: (L) Huh? [To A] When did your hair turn white? (A) I have no idea? (L) Did it happen gradually? I think that refers back to the genetic thing. (A) We have this photograph of when I was writing on the blackboard. I still had dark hair. But I had gray hair already when I was in school. So, probably it started turning when I was about 32. I have no idea. [Premature hair whitening is a common symptom of pyroluria resulting from zinc deficiency] (A) Why is hair the key? What kind of key?
A: Gene block activation.

Q: (L) Gene block activation. (A) What does that mean? (L) Is that activated externally or just internally because of the way the genes where set up. Was a gene block activated by something external?
A: Force, yes.

Q: (L) Are there any nutrients or activities that will be beneficial?
A: Spirulina.

This caught my attention because Poehlmann discusses the ability of microorganisms to alter the host genome through conjugation and transfection via plasmids, transposons, and one other method that I can't remember (I don't have the book in front of me right now).

A Google search on "mycoplasmas" and "hypothalamus" brings up several hits on the hypothalamic pituitary adrenal axis (here's one). Klinghardt mentions:

Klinghardt said:
Germans with parents from WWII all have KPU [pyroluria]. It is passed down epigenetically through the methylation pathways.

I'm not sure if this is relevant to the excerpt above, but it does suggest that mycoplasmas can be involved with epigenetic gene switching, the purpose of which would be to create a more favorable environment for their persistence, such as heavy metal sequestering:

Klinghardt said:
Molds incorporate heavy metals to protect themselves from white blood cells. The white blood cells are killed by mercury, but the molds are not.

Something else of possible relevance:

12/12/10 said:
Q: (L) We have all been pretty sick recently, including Ailén and Atreides who are going through something. What we would like to know is: what is the cause of this sickness and is theirs related, or something different?
A: Related to similar cause.

Q: (L) And what is that cause?
A: Amplification of infective agent brought courtesy of Paleofest attendee.

Q: (L) When you say it was brought by an attendee; was it just a normal flu or was it given to them for the specific purpose of bringing it to us?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And where did that person get the bug?
A: In public place.

Q: (L) I guess it would not be cheating to ask who it was?
A: Among earliest arrivals and the one who became sick first.

Q: (Galatea) What would they gain by making us sick?
A: That should be obvious: hoping for a “hit”.

Q: (Galatea) So, it was a pretty powerful bug if they were hoping for a hit. That means that we actually are stronger than we used to be.
A: Yes.

Q: (Ailén) So, what can we do to get better? Are we doing enough?
A: On the right track. Protect the liver.

This was originally referred to glibly as the "PaleoVirus", but Laura later felt that it presented more like a bacterial infection. Regarding the protection of the liver:

Klinghardt said:
Heavy metal symptoms are identical to Lyme, to Mold, to PTSD. The common final pathway is the detox pathway. Mold must be processed through the same liver and kidney as mercury. The detox system is severely overwhelmed in our modern world. There are 200,000 chemicals in the environment. Difficulty with the elimination of biotoxins presents in the same way.

And regarding the possible engineering and weaponization of mycoplasmas for release against a prespecified target, see these:

http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=20000830164126
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2001/09/08/mycoplasma.aspx
http://healthyprotocols.com/2_mycoplasma.htm
http://www.dragonfly75.com/eng/mycoplasma.html
http://www.lindaemmanuel.com/tutorial.html


12/4/99 said:
Q: This brings us to the question from one of our readers: is there anything to this so-called “Gulf War Syndrome?”
A: Of course.

Q: What is the real cause of the “Gulf War Syndrome?”
A: Medications [which could include vaccinations] used supposedly to counteract effects of serin; nerve agent.

Q: So, a medication was given to these people to counteract a possible threat to life, and the medication itself was a threat to life?
A: Yes.

There's a page on Stephen Buhner's site where he discusses mycoplasmas:

http://buhnerhealinglyme.com/category/co-infections/

Finally, Poehlmann also has her own site, which includes a link to a revised version of Rheumatoid Arthritis: The Infection Connection (so if you're planning on buying it but haven't yet, it's called Arthritis and Autoimmune Disease: The Infection Connection):

http://www.ra-infection-connection.com/
 
Re: AUTOIMMUNE DISEASES CAUSED BY AN AMOEBA INFECTION?

Shijing said:
10/5/01 said:
Q: (L) I don't think it does any good to walk away from it. If you have to lie down, then struggle while lying down. Take a book with you and battle the sleepiness. If you fall asleep, keep the book handy and the instant you wake up, go back to it. (A) Alright, that confirms what I know. Let's change the subject. Last time we talked, you told us about 1969. Somehow I couldn't find...
A: Hair is key.

Q: (L) Huh? [To A] When did your hair turn white? (A) I have no idea? (L) Did it happen gradually? I think that refers back to the genetic thing. (A) We have this photograph of when I was writing on the blackboard. I still had dark hair. But I had gray hair already when I was in school. So, probably it started turning when I was about 32. I have no idea. [Premature hair whitening is a common symptom of pyroluria resulting from zinc deficiency] (A) Why is hair the key? What kind of key?
A: Gene block activation.

fwiw
http://www.naturalnews.com/043684_grey_hair_aging_TCM.html

Furthermore, premature gray hair can indicate thyroid disorders like Grave's disease, Hashimoto's disease, hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism. Vitamin B5, B6 and B12 deficiencies, as well as iron anemia, are also common. These vitamin and mineral problems are often linked with malabsorption issues stemming from Crohn's disease, celiac disease, intestinal bacterial overgrowth or fish tapeworms. Lack of adequate vitamin A, zinc and copper are troublesome too and can lead to poor immunity, weakened blood vessel integrity and, in some cases, stroke and cardiovascular disease.

And
http://www.webmd.com/beauty/hair-nails/abcs-premature-graying
Also, a vitamin B-12 deficiency or problems with your pituitary or thyroid gland can cause premature graying that’s reversible if the problem is corrected, Benabio says.
 
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Hmm. Zinc deficiency is also associated with prostate problems (enlarged prostate and prostatitis). Yeah, and zinc supplementation has to be done carefully with some copper supplementation to prevent a imbalance of zinc/copper.

Just wanted to mention that there's also the danger of using single frequency for things like segmented worms, e.g. tapeworms, where each segment has a different frequency. Killing one or more segment without the others actually makes the segmented worm grow in number (the segments left unaffected each grow to a new one). The zapper (which was discovered accidentally as a frequency generator using DC current was made) eliminates that problem.
 
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Well, I did Round Five - one to go.

It wasn't too bad. First day was fine; I just got a bit extra tired on the second day. BUT, I was taking five grams of vitamin C about an hour after each dose which, again, I divided up into five doses of two tablets - one every three/four hours.

I'm going to start the minocin Mon, Wed, Fri now and continue through and beyond Round Six. I'll only do Six because I think that there is evidence from low reactivity that whatever it was, it's mostly dead now and the Minocin should finish it off.

I tell ya, the first three rounds were ROUGH, and round four was semi-rough! This protocol is NOT for the faint hearted and does take some serious support activities like Vitamin C, alpha lipoic, NAC, and good diet.

Today, I actually feel pretty good having just done a round. All the previous ones required two or three days to begin to recover and then, BANG, had to do another. So it was pretty relentless misery at first.

I'm also taking boron and some eye-friendly supplements.
 
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Just as an update, I finished the fifth cycle, was completely different from previous ones, no fatigue, no dizziness, no need of a nap in the afternoon, in general everything was good.
 
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riclapaz said:
Just as an update, I finished the fifth cycle, was completely different from previous ones, no fatigue, no dizziness, no need of a nap in the afternoon, in general everything was good.

Pretty much the same for me.

I'll start the final round tomorrow morning.

Interestingly, my energy is decent and I've been writing like a house afire for two days.
 
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riclapaz said:
Glad to know that everything is better, Laura. :dance: :bacon: :cheer:

Yes, that is very good news! :)
 
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[quote author= Laura]
Interestingly, my energy is decent and I've been writing like a house afire for two days. [/quote]

Awesome! I hope this protocol does the trick and you age in reverse. I expect to see you singing and dancin' a jig at the next Paleofest Caesarfest. :dance:
 
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I am currently on my fifth round too. Not much to report in regards to side-effects. However I too have had an unusual boost in energy. Might not be related to it and I also changed something else, but I have positively been buzzing along the last few days. One more cycle to go!
 

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