Re: AUTOIMMUNE DISEASES CAUSED BY AN AMOEBA INFECTION?
Gandalf said:
I'll start the 30 day parasite cleanse based on Hulda Clarkes's original formula from her book, "THE CURE FOR ALL DISEASES" in a couple of days.
I've been considering doing something like this too, although I may hold off until we collect a little more information about how much to do and when. One product that I was looking at is ParaGone:
http://www.renewlife.com/paragone.html
SeekinTruth said:
I've been looking into this stuff for decades and still haven't been able to put together a comprehensive picture. But, I know there's some very important information about health in general, and how everything relates to each other in all this.
I know you've got some background in this area SeekinTruth, and thanks for what you've contributed too. I have the feeling that if and when we finally put the pieces together, it's going to be kind of a horrific picture -- but it will be gratifying as well to finally be able to see the whole elephant, so to speak.
SeekinTruth said:
Unfortunately, many of those who've done very scientific and detailed studies of EM / frequency use to cure diseases have been attacked, marginalized, and their lives and careers ruined (including Rife and Clark, besides the background scientists who developed the pleomorphism theories that are also very important to get a good understanding for under what conditions microbes become dangerous to health and the body unable to launch an effective defense, etc. - all this important knowledge has been marginalized, discredited, and buried so that it doesn't get wide circulation).
I think that's a big clue that this area is really worth looking into -- I've read quite a bit of biographical material at this point about some of the researchers you're talking about, and it really is a huge shame. These people could have done some real good in the world, but they were systematically targeted in every case. It's very suspicious.
SeekinTruth said:
Also, most of the effective EM / frequency techniques were very short durations (like minutes), and involved the innate frequency signature of the organism or some other harmonic/resonance way of "shattering" them, so it's very unlikely to lead to resistant strains like the problem with antibiotic overuse.
I was just thinking yesterday when I was writing my post that it's hard to adapt to something that zaps you and makes you blow up instantaneously. :P
So related to that post, I looked up some more information about the "Deep Look Beyond Lyme" workshop on the Klinghardt Academy site, and there are some more detailed notes here:
http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/images/stories/Lyme_Disease/beyond_lyme_notes.pdf
It's very information-dense and there's a
lot of different leads that could be picked up (also note Hulda Clark/zapper references). One part toward the top that puts a whole new perspective on Gurdjieff's multiple I's is the following:
- Parasite patients often express the psyche of the parasites - sticky, clingy, impossible to tolerate - but a wonderful human being is behind all of that.
- We are all a composite of many personalities. Chronic infections outnumber our own cells by 10:1. We are 90% "other" and 10% "us". Our consciousness is a composite of 90% microbes and 10% us. Our thinking, feeling, creativity, and expression are 90% from the microbes within us. Patients often think, crave, and behave as if they are the parasite. Our thinking is shaded by the microbes thinking through us. The food choices, behavioral choices, and who we like is the thinking of the microbes within us expressing themselves.
- Patients will reject all treatments that affect the issue that requires treating. Patients will not guide themselves to health when the microbes have taken over.
A link with pyroluria (KPU/HPU) is also discussed -- this complements a link I posted a few weeks ago on the
Pyroluria thread, so I'll post it again here since it mentions mycoplasmas a couple of times:
http://www.health-science-spirit.com/pyroluria.htm
Klinghardt's mention of the hypothalamus reminded me of this excerpt:
10/5/01 said:
Q: (A) This is an ordinary question about my state of affairs, about this sleepiness, because once in a while it becomes very strong. There are probably many ingredients for this, yet I would like to know which has the most importance. What about this sleepiness when it's time to do research?
A: "Coil failure."
Q: (A) What coil? Coil failure? Do I have a coil in my brain?
A: Hypothalamus.
Q: What kind of failure?
A: Energy surge causes short circuit.
Q: (A) But this phenomenon sometimes was going on for weeks or months.
A: Yes.
Q: (A) Why is it certain activities keep me awake, and certain others make me sleep?
A: Failure has a genetic basis. [Pause] Push against.
Q: (L) What does pushing against this tendency accomplish?
A: Unlocks DNA.
Q: (L) Anything specific that would be beneficial other than just pushing against it?
A: Aging stumps the brain that is unused.
Q: (L) In other words use it or lose it. (A) But I had exactly the same phenomenon like twenty years ago. Is there anything else that will help, other than pushing against it and forcing it to unlock DNA?
A: Not really you must overcome some things on your own steam.
Q: (L) What will be the benefits once he pushes past this?
A: Faculties jacked up a big step higher.
Q: (L) How long will it last if he struggles with it whenever he needs to sleep? This is my idea but - just struggling against it. That's the only way I can describe it.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) I don't think it does any good to walk away from it. If you have to lie down, then struggle while lying down. Take a book with you and battle the sleepiness. If you fall asleep, keep the book handy and the instant you wake up, go back to it. (A) Alright, that confirms what I know. Let's change the subject. Last time we talked, you told us about 1969. Somehow I couldn't find...
A: Hair is key.
Q: (L) Huh? [To A] When did your hair turn white? (A) I have no idea? (L) Did it happen gradually? I think that refers back to the genetic thing. (A) We have this photograph of when I was writing on the blackboard. I still had dark hair. But I had gray hair already when I was in school. So, probably it started turning when I was about 32. I have no idea. [Premature hair whitening is a common symptom of pyroluria resulting from zinc deficiency] (A) Why is hair the key? What kind of key?
A: Gene block activation.
Q: (L) Gene block activation. (A) What does that mean? (L) Is that activated externally or just internally because of the way the genes where set up. Was a gene block activated by something external?
A: Force, yes.
Q: (L) Are there any nutrients or activities that will be beneficial?
A: Spirulina.
This caught my attention because Poehlmann discusses the ability of microorganisms to alter the host genome through
conjugation and
transfection via plasmids, transposons, and one other method that I can't remember (I don't have the book in front of me right now).
A Google search on "mycoplasmas" and "hypothalamus" brings up several hits on the hypothalamic pituitary adrenal axis (here's
one). Klinghardt mentions:
Klinghardt said:
Germans with parents from WWII all have KPU [pyroluria]. It is passed down epigenetically through the methylation pathways.
I'm not sure if this is relevant to the excerpt above, but it does suggest that mycoplasmas can be involved with epigenetic gene switching, the purpose of which would be to create a more favorable environment for their persistence, such as heavy metal sequestering:
Klinghardt said:
Molds incorporate heavy metals to protect themselves from white blood cells. The white blood cells are killed by mercury, but the molds are not.
Something else of possible relevance:
12/12/10 said:
Q: (L) We have all been pretty sick recently, including Ailén and Atreides who are going through something. What we would like to know is: what is the cause of this sickness and is theirs related, or something different?
A: Related to similar cause.
Q: (L) And what is that cause?
A: Amplification of infective agent brought courtesy of Paleofest attendee.
Q: (L) When you say it was brought by an attendee; was it just a normal flu or was it given to them for the specific purpose of bringing it to us?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And where did that person get the bug?
A: In public place.
Q: (L) I guess it would not be cheating to ask who it was?
A: Among earliest arrivals and the one who became sick first.
Q: (Galatea) What would they gain by making us sick?
A: That should be obvious: hoping for a “hit”.
Q: (Galatea) So, it was a pretty powerful bug if they were hoping for a hit. That means that we actually are stronger than we used to be.
A: Yes.
Q: (Ailén) So, what can we do to get better? Are we doing enough?
A: On the right track. Protect the liver.
This was originally referred to glibly as the "PaleoVirus", but Laura later felt that it presented more like a bacterial infection. Regarding the protection of the liver:
Klinghardt said:
Heavy metal symptoms are identical to Lyme, to Mold, to PTSD. The common final pathway is the detox pathway. Mold must be processed through the same liver and kidney as mercury. The detox system is severely overwhelmed in our modern world. There are 200,000 chemicals in the environment. Difficulty with the elimination of biotoxins presents in the same way.
And regarding the possible engineering and weaponization of mycoplasmas for release against a prespecified target, see these:
http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=20000830164126
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2001/09/08/mycoplasma.aspx
http://healthyprotocols.com/2_mycoplasma.htm
http://www.dragonfly75.com/eng/mycoplasma.html
http://www.lindaemmanuel.com/tutorial.html
12/4/99 said:
Q: This brings us to the question from one of our readers: is there anything to this so-called “Gulf War Syndrome?”
A: Of course.
Q: What is the real cause of the “Gulf War Syndrome?”
A: Medications [
which could include vaccinations] used supposedly to counteract effects of serin; nerve agent.
Q: So, a medication was given to these people to counteract a possible threat to life, and the medication itself was a threat to life?
A: Yes.
There's a page on Stephen Buhner's site where he discusses mycoplasmas:
http://buhnerhealinglyme.com/category/co-infections/
Finally, Poehlmann also has her own site, which includes a link to a revised version of
Rheumatoid Arthritis: The Infection Connection (so if you're planning on buying it but haven't yet, it's called
Arthritis and Autoimmune Disease: The Infection Connection):
http://www.ra-infection-connection.com/