Bad news - we are way past our 'extinct by' date

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Robin McKie, science editor

The Observer

Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:18 EDT

Well here it is, in a mainstream publication

The Observer said:
Some say the world will end in fire, some say in ice, wrote Robert Frost. But whatever is to be our fate, it is now overdue.

After analysing the eradication of millions of ancient species, scientists have found that a mass extinction is due any moment now.

Their research has shown that every 62 million years - plus or minus 3m years - creatures are wiped from the planet's surface in massive numbers.

And given that the last great extinction occurred 65m years ago, when dinosaurs and thousands of other creatures abruptly disappeared, the study suggests humanity faces a fairly pressing danger. Even worse, scientists have no idea about its source.

'There is no doubting the existence of this cycle of mass extinctions every 62m years. It is very, very clear from analysis of fossil records,' said Professor James Kirchner, of the University of California, Berkeley. 'Unfortunately, we are all completely baffled about the cause.'

The report, published in the current issue of Nature, was carried out by Professor Richard Muller and Robert Rohde also from the Berkeley campus. They studied the disappearances of thousands of different marine species (whose fossils are better preserved than terrestrial species) over the past 500m years.

Their results were completely unexpected. It was known that mass extinctions have occurred in the past. During the Permian extinction, 250m years ago, more than 70 per cent of all species were wiped out, for example. But most research suggested that these were linked to asteroid collisions and other random events.

But Muller and Rohde found that, far from being unpredictable, mass extinctions occur every 62m years, a pattern that is 'striking and compelling', according to Kirchner.

But what is responsible? Here, researchers ran into problems. They considered the passage of the solar system through gas clouds that permeate the galaxy. These clouds could trigger climatic mayhem. However, there is no known mechanism to explain why the passage might occur only every 62m years.

Alternatively, the Sun may possess an undiscovered companion star. It could approach the Sun every 62m years, dislodging comets from the outer solar system and propelling them towards Earth. Such a companion star has never been observed, however, and in any case such a lengthy orbit would be unstable, Muller says.

Or perhaps some internal geophysical cycle triggers massive volcanic activity every 62m years, Muller and Rohde wondered. Plumes from these would surround the planet and lead to a devastating drop in temperature that would freeze most creatures to death.

Unfortunately, scientists know of no such geological cycle.

'We have tried everything we can think of to find an explanation for these weird cycles of biodiversity and extinction,' Muller said. 'So far we have failed. And, yes, we are due one soon, but I would not panic yet.'
 
Muller said:
And, yes, we are due one soon, but I would not panic yet.'
Hmmm, wonder when he will panic?

Not that panicking is the point, but, for the love of Pete, just go back to sleep folks, I only mentioned it because, well, because the big guys gave us the ok to start to leak out a little of the truth - just enough to put people who think they are paying attention on edge, but to also give them an easy emotional 'out' - the boost in anxiety is such a delicious appetizer, that the 'eyes in the sky' simply couldn't resist.
 
Anart said:
Not that panicking is the point, but, for the love of Pete, just go back to sleep folks, I only mentioned it because, well, because the big guys gave us the ok to start to leak out a little of the truth - just enough to put people who think they are paying attention on edge, but to also give them an easy emotional 'out' - the boost in anxiety is such a delicious appetizer, that the 'eyes in the sky' simply couldn't resist.
What really drives me nuts is that I've been saying this is coming and even HOW (more or less) since 1986... over 20 years. A lot could have been done in that time.
 
Laura said:
What really drives me nuts is that I've been saying this is coming and even HOW (more or less) since 1986... over 20 years. A lot could have been done in that time.
Very, very true - humanity very likely could have figured out a way to manage things to ensure maximum survival, even comfortable survival. Of course, in the world where that could have happened, humanity would have been allowed to work together, have been given open access to all the data and have been allowed to allocate the planet's resources for the good of the survival of the whole - in other words, it would have to be a different world.

The essential psychopaths and those indoctrinated by them would never allow that - you've been consistently marginalized and attacked for very good reasons (from the psychopathic point of view )- the psychopaths could not allow their intra species prey twenty plus years to work together to figure the best way through what is coming. (And, that doesn't even address the highly probable hypothesis that humanity is a farmed food source for hyperdimensional beings - they can't have humanity working together and actually learning and understanding things to the point of escaping the farm.)

So, yeah, 'really drives me nuts' is an understatement as far as I'm concerned...
 
anart said:
Very, very true - humanity very likely could have figured out a way to manage things to ensure maximum survival, even comfortable survival. Of course, in the world where that could have happened, humanity would have been allowed to work together, have been given open access to all the data and have been allowed to allocate the planet's resources for the good of the survival of the whole - in other words, it would have to be a different world.
I don't think that was ever meant to be. It seems our planet is due for a 'rest' from large numbers of human beings for a while. I suppose we could all try looking on the 'bright side'... at least the planet isn't going to go the same way as Kantek did.

anart said:
So, yeah, 'really drives me nuts' is an understatement as far as I'm concerned...
What 'drives me nuts' is nobody listens and nobody understands reality (or, at least very few). And when they do - they simply don't want to understand it! And these are the people who actually have a choice! And they don't want to know. Makes me wonder why anyone bothers to communicate. As I look around and really listen, I don't hear much 'signal' from STO. I wonder why.
 
Starsailor, the article first appeared in Observer on March, 13, 2005. Rense rushed to post the article[/general63/extinct.htm]
So, date Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:18 EDT is the date of article being re-posted. the Observer decided to remind us two years later 'not to panic yet' once more.
 
Well spotted! I just posted it here as I found it on today's Signs...

I initially thought "that's unusual!"... it seemed quite progressive for a mainstream newspaper. But really, in the grand scheme of things, the PTB can afford to flash the truth now and again. It's going to take a few shocks yet for the concept of catastrophic change to seat within the mass mind.
 
Yes, the reappearance of this article, two years later, is a flag.

Could be a "probe" to once again gauge public reaction, or it may have been a slow news day.

The former hypothesis interests me much more.
 
The article speaks about mass extinctions on a 62 million year cycle (give or take 3 mil yrs) which makes us think in terms of geologic times juxtaposed with historical time. So we are 'not to panic just yet' but the suggestion is to do the very opposite to what has been suggested when we find out that we have been looking into a rear view mirror where events are a lot closer then they appear. In other words 'don’t panic' really means to panic when people discover that 'give or take 3 mil years' is right around the corner. Then they will react (violent revolution?) without hope since they have not been prepared.

The article might also appeal to American narcissism who 'self worship'. Narcissism tries to exercise power but the inevitable consequences of this exercise of power nullifies itself in the form of retribution. Gurdjieff called people who are goverened by narcissism ‘nullities’ where the consequences of their actions null out the causes. As narcissists we cancel ourselves out. We suffer retribution, that is, we become our own punishment from the consequences of our actions.

It's interesting how the Nemisis hypothesis (extinctions every 26 mil yrs) is also favored by Prof. Muller of Berkely. Interesting name 'nemisis' which means 'divine retribution' in mythology So now we are being punished by an angry divine god because we have been bad rather then suffering the consequences of our own actions because of our own apathy and ignorance?
 
I noticed an article at
http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_079203323.html
about the discovery of a three mile wide meteor near stockton, ca.
They say it is approx a mile under the surface but plan to obtain samples in the near future. Would have taken a long time for that crater to fill. Happened 50 billion years ago, they say.
glen
 
I found this site

http:(xx)www(d)darkstar1.co.uk/extinctions(d)html

after reading your article. I looked up the author, a Mr Andy Lloyd, on your search facility but found no reference to him. You may not approve of some of the company he keeps or the self publicity (but who doesn't) but it looks like he has done some homework.
 
I don't know if Mars bars is the answer. I prefer to stock up on seeds. Grain in particular will release vitamin C with or without the sun by sprouting. There is an interesting by-product from the eocene period which may prove helpful for the survivor types. Zeolite will do the job that your liver, lungs and kidneys do to purify air, earth and water. We're talking about about a molecular sieve and it will adsorb radiation or ammonia or any other reactive molecule except salt. I've got a ton or so around the house just to adsorb the chemtrail fallout for now but the applications of zeolite which is found worldwide are numerous and will save lives.
 
pdouspensky said:
I don't know if Mars bars is the answer. I prefer to stock up on seeds. Grain in particular will release vitamin C with or without the sun by sprouting. There is an interesting by-product from the eocene period which may prove helpful for the survivor types. Zeolite will do the job that your liver, lungs and kidneys do to purify air, earth and water. We're talking about about a molecular sieve and it will adsorb radiation or ammonia or any other reactive molecule except salt. I've got a ton or so around the house just to adsorb the chemtrail fallout for now but the applications of zeolite which is found worldwide are numerous and will save lives.
Hi pdouspensky.

I just did a google search on "Zeolite". I realize that for every pro there's almost always a con (sorry...pun not intended). One of the sites by Jonathan Campbell, Health Consultant, cautions people against "eating" Zeolite. Here's the link: http:(SlashSlash)www(DOT)cqs(DOT)com/zeolite.htm.

While Mr. Campbell may have his own agenda, and his stable datum as shown at the top of that link page, quoting Hippocrates -- "Let thy food be thy medicine, and thy medicine be thy food", which, of course, is all well and good in a 'normal' world where there IS food. I'm not sure what he would say about eating Zeolite after a world catastrophe where there may be very little if any food available -- not to mention that food, water, and air would most certainly be contaminated anyway.

So my question to you is -- are you recommending using Zeolite in the soil? Or eating it? Or what?

Zeolite may be working quite advantageously for you in order to counter the effects of chemical spraying by our charming government. And the whole issue (and my questions) may be moot anyway. It's not as if someone already wrote the definitive instruction booklet on how to survive and thrive during and after a world-wide catastrophe -- from the perspective of someone who actually did survive one from long ago. We may have to 'guess' our way through -- if any of us even gets through. Hopefully, there will be some very educated guesses made available to the public BEFORE the proverbial "S" hits the planet. I am not holding my breath.

And thanks for contributing this interesting information. I enjoyed reading the info about the Zeolite regardless of whether I know to vote yes or no. : )

Sprouting seeds sounds good. With what water? Would the Zeolite purify the water in which to sprout the seeds?
 
Chyna Faerie said:
I just did a google search on "Zeolite". I realize that for every pro there's almost always a con (sorry...pun not intended). One of the sites by Jonathan Campbell, Health Consultant, cautions people against "eating" Zeolite. Here's the link: http:(SlashSlash)www(DOT)cqs(DOT)com/zeolite.htm.
I had never heard of people trying to eat this stuff. How bizarre.

So my question to you is -- are you recommending using Zeolite in the soil? Or eating it? Or what?
You use it as a filter. It's a mineral that's being used industrially in water softeners to give one example. It is also used to absorbe chemicals in soil (just google: zeolite as soil additive)

Sprouting seeds sounds good. With what water? Would the Zeolite purify the water in which to sprout the seeds?
Yes.

Now if only we could come up with Neolite, a mineral that absorbs psychopaths.
 
Ruth wrote: I don't think that was ever meant to be. It seems our planet is due for a 'rest' from large numbers of human beings for a while. I suppose we could all try looking on the 'bright side'... at least the planet isn't going to go the same way as Kantek did.

Peg here:
You call a major catastrophe a "rest" ? More like the whole globe is going to get shaken. I'm not so sure I could make such a sure statement about Kantek either. There's a bright side? You really know what happened to that planet?

Ruth: What 'drives me nuts' is nobody listens and nobody understands reality (or, at least very few).

Peg: Yep, especially those who don't pay attention.

Ruth: And when they do - they simply don't want to understand it! And these are the people who actually have a choice!

Peg: People in glass houses........

Ruth: And they don't want to know. Makes me wonder why anyone bothers to communicate.

Peg: Many of us have wondered the same thing.

Ruth: As I look around and really listen, I don't hear much 'signal' from STO. I wonder why.

Peg: Probably because this is an STS world, inhabited by same people.
 
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