Barack Obama

Well, Obama was rumored to have attended the Bilderburg meeting back in June, so it's no surprise he was given the election.

(Yes, I know, the source is infowars. I tried finding something more credible but most of what came up were blogs leading back to infowars.)

_http://www.infowars.com/?p=2560

According to news reports, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton went out of their way to hold their long-awaited private meeting in a very specific location - not at Hillary’s mansion in Washington - but in Northern Virginia, which also just happens to be the scene of the 2008 Bilderberg meeting.

Obama’s spokesman Robert Gibbs told the media that Obama and Clinton held a private meeting last night but he refused to disclose where it taken place, except that it was not at Clinton’s home in Washington, as had been widely reported. Hillary campaign managers also refused to disclose the location of the rendezvous.

"Reporters traveling with Obama sensed something might be happening between the pair when they arrived at Dulles International Airport after an event in Northern Virginia and Obama was not aboard the airplane," reports the Associated Press.

Dulles just happens to be walking distance from the Westfields Marriott hotel in Chantilly where Henry Kissinger, David Rockefeller and the rest of the Bilderberg globalists are convening.

"Asked at the time about the Illinois senator’s whereabouts, Gibbs smiled and declined to comment," the reports adds.

What is the only political "event" taking place in Northern Virginia at the moment? The Bilderberg Group meeting of course. Rather than taking the easier option of meeting at Clinton’s Washington mansion, Obama and Hillary went out of their way to grace the Bilderberg elitists with their presence.

Of course, Hillary attended too, and she manifestly did not win, so take all that for what it's worth.

There's also some question, I understand, as to whether or not Obama was born in the US (which as far as this Canadian understands would disqualify him from holding the highest office in the land.) There are persistent rumors that his birth certificate is a forgery - a Google search for 'Obama birth certificate' reveals a number of links purporting to prove this - and if that's the case, it could provide a way for the PWB to 'bait-and-switch': "Oh, sorry, we know you all really like him and all, but unfortunately it turns out his birth certificate was forged so he's disqualified. In light of this, Joe Biden will be assuming the responsibilities of the Oval Office until the next election." I can only imagine the results this would have, emotionally, not just in America but everywhere in the world where as several commentators have noted Obamamania seems to be epidemic.
 
Last night in San Francisco, while walking to my bus, I could hear cries of joy and sense the optimism in the air as the returns came in for Obama. I couldn't help but get caught up in it for the moment...especially when I figured I wouldn't have to watch in horror while Palin spouted more of her hate-mongering for her ignorant, adoring followers and did the bidding of her Dominionist buds. At that point, I brought myself back to reality by remembering that Presidential elections are a farce no matter who wins, and "nothing happens in politics that isn't planned."

Ionconclast said:
- he isn't president yet - should anything happen to him that could be blamed on some 'terrorist' country or other group of people, the masses would scream for blood and support any insane action president biden would order.

Yikes. Heard someone commenting that while she voted for Obama, she couldn't help worrying that he might be assassinated by a right-wing nut. Another person added that he was concerned that a Muslim terrorist might do Obama in because he was born to a Muslim dad...and by Islamic law, should be killed for becoming a Christian. What better way for the PTB to get leftists to join forces with the hawkish right and demand vengeance ( a war...bomb Iran, etc.) and then have pro-Zionist Biden as their figurehead. Scary speculation.
 
psychegram said:
There's also some question, I understand, as to whether or not Obama was born in the US (which as far as this Canadian understands would disqualify him from holding the highest office in the land.) There are persistent rumors that his birth certificate is a forgery - a Google search for 'Obama birth certificate' reveals a number of links purporting to prove this - and if that's the case, it could provide a way for the PWB to 'bait-and-switch': "Oh, sorry, we know you all really like him and all, but unfortunately it turns out his birth certificate was forged so he's disqualified. In light of this, Joe Biden will be assuming the responsibilities of the Oval Office until the next election." I can only imagine the results this would have, emotionally, not just in America but everywhere in the world where as several commentators have noted Obamamania seems to be epidemic.

Well it was quite the same thing with McCain.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28mccain.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/aug/28/lawsuit-questions-obamas-eligibility-for-office/

_http://www.nolanchart.com/article4678.html

http://2008election.procon.org/viewresource.asp?resourceID=1566

and

How to Become the US President: A Step-by-Step Guide

1. Meet Eligibility Guidelines Set by the U.S. Constitution

Article II of the United States Constitution establishes the Executive Branch of the Government, including the President, Vice-President, and other executive officers. Within Article II, rules are set as to who can become President and how a President is elected:
"Article II

Section 1. The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same term, be elected, as follows:

...No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States."

Then could Bush use that fact and invalidate the election?
 
psychegram said:
Well, Obama was rumored to have attended the Bilderburg meeting back in June, so it's no surprise he was given the election.

(Yes, I know, the source is infowars. I tried finding something more credible but most of what came up were blogs leading back to infowars.)

Well maybe the neoliberal pro-banker Rockefeller & friends Trilateral Commission (and perhaps Bilderburg behind the scenes) got tired of the neocons doing their publicly seen work. Not a lot of difference between neoliberal and neocon, they're quite close (as in Bush Sr and Bush Jr) but the neocons are probably more bull in the china shop than the neoliberals would prefer so maybe the neoliberals decided they needed to risk getting a little publicly dirty again to provide some calm before the storm. A mainstream and SOTT link between Obama and the neoliberals via Brzezinski:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/09/12/358475.aspx
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/138926-Former-National-Security-Advisor-Zbigniew-Brzezinski-backs-Obama
 
I remember the heavy air of depression on the Wednesday after the 2004 presidential election. Some called it a 'blue Wednesday.' I remember the outrage I was feeling the night before. I had been following the rigged voting machine stories closely; the feeling of outrage was so intense I eventually felt numb. I believe I dissociated.

Earlier in the day yesterday I talked with a friend who told me she was just waiting for today to see if she wanted to live another forty years. The past eight years has surely taken its toll on normal people. And it's been much longer for people who have felt first hand the discrimination of America because of their skin color, class, gender, sexual orientation, country of origin, or beliefs. So when I saw the tears of people during Obama's acceptance speech, I too cried. And I cry still, but not from hope that things will be different or from relief but because I know in my heart that things are the same.

Obama has inspired a hope of return to normal humanity. His election has released an enormous amount of pressure that's been building for decades, if not centuries. This release supports many of the illusions needed to maintain our inverted reality. Our election system works. Our media is truthful. An American leader will heal the world. Good prevails in the American dream.

If we look back at the past eight years, what have people done to bring about this release? Where were the masses of people marching in the street? Where were the leaders of conscience demanding an end to inhumanity? Where was the truth uttered? I doubt those who have worked earnestly for years to first bring about change in themselves and for others who work for the same felt such a release. This emotional outpouring is not of humanity's making. It's created a vulnerability in the world psyche that can only be used by those who made it, inhumans. This new change was not brought by a demand for truth and so once again truth is denied.

This is the time for great preparation. The time will soon come when vulnerability turns to trauma.
 
I find this to relevant to this thread and to the current situation.

The Grand Delusion
By Joel S. Hirschhorn
mod edit: link added: _http://www.counterpunch.org/hirschhorn11102007.html

11/14/07 "ICH " -- - With an endless, futile and costly Iraq war, a stinking economy and most Americans seeing the country on the wrong track, the greatest national group delusion is that electing Democrats in 2008 is what the country needs.

Keith Olbermann was praised when he called the Bush presidency a criminal conspiracy. That missed the larger truth. The whole two-party political system is a criminal conspiracy hiding behind illusion induced delusion.

Virtually everything that Bush correctly gets condemnation for could have been prevented or negated by Democrats, if they had had courage, conviction and commitment to maintaining the rule of law and obedience to the Constitution. Bush grabbed power from the feeble and corrupt hands of Democrats. Democrats have failed the vast majority of Americans. So why would sensible people think that giving Democrats more power is a good idea? They certainly have done little to merit respect for their recent congressional actions, or inaction when it comes to impeachment of Bush and Cheney.

One of the core reasons the two-party stranglehold on our political system persists is that whenever one party uses its power to an extreme degree it sets the conditions for the other party – its partner in the conspiracy – to take over. Then the other takes its turn in wielding excessive power. Most Americans – at least those that vote – seem incapable of understanding that the Democrats and Republicans are two teams in the same league, serving the same cabal running the corporatist plutocracy. By keeping people focused on rooting for one team or the other, the behind-the-scenes rulers ensure their invisibility and power.

The genius of the plutocrats is to create the illusion of important differences between the two parties, and the illusion of political choice in elections. In truth, the partner parties compete superficially and dishonestly to entertain the electorate, to maintain the aura of a democracy. Illusion creates the delusion of Americans that voting in elections will deliver political reforms, despite a long history of politicians lying in campaigns about reforms, new directions and bold new policies. The rulers need power shifting between the teams to maintain popular trust in the political system. Voting manifests that trust – as if changing people will fix the system. It doesn’t.

So voters become co-conspirators in the grand political criminal conspiracy. Those who vote for Democrats or Republicans perpetuate the corrupt, dishonest and elitist plutocracy that preferentially serves the interests of the Upper Class and a multitude of special interests – some aligned with the Republicans and some with the Democrats. Voting only encourages worthless politicians and those that fund and corrupt them.

Public discontent leads to settling for less through lesser evil voting rather than bold thinking about how to reform the system to get genuine political competition and better candidates and government.

I understand why sane people would not want to vote for Republicans, based on the Bush presidency. But I cannot understand why politically engaged people think that putting Democrats in power will restore American democracy and put the welfare of non-wealthy Americans above the interests of the wealthy and the business sector. Bill Clinton’s administration strongly advanced globalization and the loss of good jobs to foreign countries. Economic inequality kept rising. Trade agreements sold us out.

And in this primary season talk about reforming our health care system among Democrats never gets serious about providing universal health care independent of the insurance industry. And why should citizens be supportive of a party that favors illegal immigration – law breaking – that primarily serves business interests by keeping labor costs low?

Nor have Democrats stood up to challenge the official 9/11 story that no longer has any credibility to anyone that takes the time to seriously examine all its inconsistencies with what really happened and the laws of physics.

Whoever wins the Democratic presidential nomination will not be free of corruption and lies. He or she will owe paybacks to all the fat-cat campaign donors. Voters will be choosing the lesser-evil Democratic presidential candidate. Is that really the only choice? Is there no other action that can advance the national good?

There seem to be just two other choices. Vote for some third party presidential candidate, but the downside of that is twofold. No such candidate can win in the current rigged system. Worse, voting gives a stamp of credibility to the political system, as if it was fair, when it is not. Voting says that you still believe that the political system merits your support and involvement.

The second option is to boycott voting to show total rejection of the current political system and the plutocratic cabal using the two-party duopoly to carry out its wishes. When a democracy no longer is legitimate, no longer is honest, and no longer serves the interests of ordinary citizens, then what other than violent revolution can change it? When the electoral system no longer can provide honest, corruption free candidates with any chance of winning, what can citizens do? Either stay home or just vote in local and state races and for ballot measures.

I say remove the credibility and legitimacy of the federal government by reducing voter turnout to extremely low levels. Show the world that the vast majority of Americans have seen the light and no longer are deluding themselves about their two-party democracy. A boycott on voting for candidates for federal office is a form of civil disobedience that has enormous power to force true political reforms from the political system. This is the only way to make it crystal clear that the presidency and Congress no longer represent any significant fraction of the people. This is the only way to show that America’s representative democracy is no longer representative and, therefore, is no longer a credible democracy. Just imagine a federal government trying to function in the usual ways when only 20 percent of the eligible voters actually voted.

It takes more courage to boycott voting than to vote for lesser evil Democrats and in the end this is the only way for people to feel proudly patriotic. This is the only way to not contribute to the ongoing bipartisan criminal conspiracy running the federal government.

We have broken government because the spirit of Americans that gave us our revolution and nation’s birth has been broken, in large measure by distractive and self-indulgent consumerism. It is better to recognize that those who vote suffer from delusion than to criticize those who do not vote as apathetic. Non-delusional nonvoters recognize the futility of voting.

Democrats will not restore our democracy. That is the painful truth that most people will not readily accept. Such is the power of group delusion. Voting produces never-ending cycles of voter dissatisfaction with those elected, both Democrats and Republicans. It is time to break this cycle of voter despair. Voters that -bee yatch- and moan about Congress and the White House have nobody to blame but themselves, no matter which party they voted for.
 
One thing I found sort of interesting, is the somber tone of Obama's victory speech last night. It was somewhat cautionary and subdued and seemed an odd counterpoint to all the emotions exhibited by the supporters in the audience. The MSM attributed it to the death of Obama's grandmother.

_http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/obama.transcript/index.html


Hello, Chicago.

If there is anyone out there who still doubts that America is a place where all things are possible, who still wonders if the dream of our founders is alive in our time, who still questions the power of our democracy, tonight is your answer.

It's the answer told by lines that stretched around schools and churches in numbers this nation has never seen, by people who waited three hours and four hours, many for the first time in their lives, because they believed that this time must be different, that their voices could be that difference.

It's the answer spoken by young and old, rich and poor, Democrat and Republican, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, gay, straight, disabled and not disabled. Americans who sent a message to the world that we have never been just a collection of individuals or a collection of red states and blue states.

We are, and always will be, the United States of America.

It's the answer that led those who've been told for so long by so many to be cynical and fearful and doubtful about what we can achieve to put their hands on the arc of history and bend it once more toward the hope of a better day.

It's been a long time coming, but tonight, because of what we did on this date in this election at this defining moment change has come to America.

A little bit earlier this evening, I received an extraordinarily gracious call from Sen. McCain.

Sen. McCain fought long and hard in this campaign. And he's fought even longer and harder for the country that he loves. He has endured sacrifices for America that most of us cannot begin to imagine. We are better off for the service rendered by this brave and selfless leader.

I congratulate him; I congratulate Gov. Palin for all that they've achieved. And I look forward to working with them to renew this nation's promise in the months ahead.

I want to thank my partner in this journey, a man who campaigned from his heart, and spoke for the men and women he grew up with on the streets of Scranton and rode with on the train home to Delaware, the vice president-elect of the United States, Joe Biden.

And I would not be standing here tonight without the unyielding support of my best friend for the last 16 years the rock of our family, the love of my life, the nation's next first lady Michelle Obama.

Sasha and Malia I love you both more than you can imagine. And you have earned the new puppy that's coming with us to the new White House.

And while she's no longer with us, I know my grandmother's watching, along with the family that made me who I am. I miss them tonight. I know that my debt to them is beyond measure.

To my sister Maya, my sister Alma, all my other brothers and sisters, thank you so much for all the support that you've given me. I am grateful to them.

And to my campaign manager, David Plouffe, the unsung hero of this campaign, who built the best -- the best political campaign, I think, in the history of the United States of America.

To my chief strategist David Axelrod who's been a partner with me every step of the way.

To the best campaign team ever assembled in the history of politics you made this happen, and I am forever grateful for what you've sacrificed to get it done.

But above all, I will never forget who this victory truly belongs to. It belongs to you. It belongs to you.

I was never the likeliest candidate for this office. We didn't start with much money or many endorsements. Our campaign was not hatched in the halls of Washington. It began in the backyards of Des Moines and the living rooms of Concord and the front porches of Charleston. It was built by working men and women who dug into what little savings they had to give $5 and $10 and $20 to the cause.

It grew strength from the young people who rejected the myth of their generation's apathy who left their homes and their families for jobs that offered little pay and less sleep.

It drew strength from the not-so-young people who braved the bitter cold and scorching heat to knock on doors of perfect strangers, and from the millions of Americans who volunteered and organized and proved that more than two centuries later a government of the people, by the people, and for the people has not perished from the Earth.

This is your victory.

And I know you didn't do this just to win an election. And I know you didn't do it for me.

You did it because you understand the enormity of the task that lies ahead. For even as we celebrate tonight, we know the challenges that tomorrow will bring are the greatest of our lifetime -- two wars, a planet in peril, the worst financial crisis in a century.

Even as we stand here tonight, we know there are brave Americans waking up in the deserts of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan to risk their lives for us.

There are mothers and fathers who will lie awake after the children fall asleep and wonder how they'll make the mortgage or pay their doctors' bills or save enough for their child's college education.

There's new energy to harness, new jobs to be created, new schools to build, and threats to meet, alliances to repair.

The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep. We may not get there in one year or even in one term. But, America, I have never been more hopeful than I am tonight that we will get there.

I promise you, we as a people will get there.

There will be setbacks and false starts. There are many who won't agree with every decision or policy I make as president. And we know the government can't solve every problem.

But I will always be honest with you about the challenges we face. I will listen to you, especially when we disagree. And, above all, I will ask you to join in the work of remaking this nation, the only way it's been done in America for 221 years -- block by block, brick by brick, calloused hand by calloused hand.

What began 21 months ago in the depths of winter cannot end on this autumn night.

This victory alone is not the change we seek. It is only the chance for us to make that change. And that cannot happen if we go back to the way things were.

It can't happen without you, without a new spirit of service, a new spirit of sacrifice.

So let us summon a new spirit of patriotism, of responsibility, where each of us resolves to pitch in and work harder and look after not only ourselves but each other.

Let us remember that, if this financial crisis taught us anything, it's that we cannot have a thriving Wall Street while Main Street suffers.

In this country, we rise or fall as one nation, as one people. Let's resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship and pettiness and immaturity that has poisoned our politics for so long.

Let's remember that it was a man from this state who first carried the banner of the Republican Party to the White House, a party founded on the values of self-reliance and individual liberty and national unity.

Those are values that we all share. And while the Democratic Party has won a great victory tonight, we do so with a measure of humility and determination to heal the divides that have held back our progress.

As Lincoln said to a nation far more divided than ours, we are not enemies but friends. Though passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection.

And to those Americans whose support I have yet to earn, I may not have won your vote tonight, but I hear your voices. I need your help. And I will be your president, too.


And to all those watching tonight from beyond our shores, from parliaments and palaces, to those who are huddled around radios in the forgotten corners of the world, our stories are singular, but our destiny is shared, and a new dawn of American leadership is at hand.

To those -- to those who would tear the world down: We will defeat you. To those who seek peace and security: We support you. And to all those who have wondered if America's beacon still burns as bright: Tonight we proved once more that the true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals: democracy, liberty, opportunity and unyielding hope.

That's the true genius of America: that America can change. Our union can be perfected. What we've already achieved gives us hope for what we can and must achieve tomorrow.

This election had many firsts and many stories that will be told for generations. But one that's on my mind tonight's about a woman who cast her ballot in Atlanta. She's a lot like the millions of others who stood in line to make their voice heard in this election except for one thing: Ann Nixon Cooper is 106 years old.

She was born just a generation past slavery; a time when there were no cars on the road or planes in the sky; when someone like her couldn't vote for two reasons -- because she was a woman and because of the color of her skin.

And tonight, I think about all that she's seen throughout her century in America -- the heartache and the hope; the struggle and the progress; the times we were told that we can't, and the people who pressed on with that American creed: Yes we can.

At a time when women's voices were silenced and their hopes dismissed, she lived to see them stand up and speak out and reach for the ballot. Yes we can.

When there was despair in the dust bowl and depression across the land, she saw a nation conquer fear itself with a New Deal, new jobs, a new sense of common purpose. Yes we can.

When the bombs fell on our harbor and tyranny threatened the world, she was there to witness a generation rise to greatness and a democracy was saved. Yes we can.

She was there for the buses in Montgomery, the hoses in Birmingham, a bridge in Selma, and a preacher from Atlanta who told a people that "We Shall Overcome." Yes we can.

A man touched down on the moon, a wall came down in Berlin, a world was connected by our own science and imagination.

And this year, in this election, she touched her finger to a screen, and cast her vote, because after 106 years in America, through the best of times and the darkest of hours, she knows how America can change.

Yes we can.

America, we have come so far. We have seen so much. But there is so much more to do. So tonight, let us ask ourselves -- if our children should live to see the next century; if my daughters should be so lucky to live as long as Ann Nixon Cooper, what change will they see? What progress will we have made?

This is our chance to answer that call. This is our moment.


This is our time, to put our people back to work and open doors of opportunity for our kids; to restore prosperity and promote the cause of peace; to reclaim the American dream and reaffirm that fundamental truth, that, out of many, we are one; that while we breathe, we hope. And where we are met with cynicism and doubts and those who tell us that we can't, we will respond with that timeless creed that sums up the spirit of a people: Yes, we can.

Thank you. God bless you. And may God bless the United States of America.
 
Myth of Myself said:
I find this to relevant to this thread and to the current situation.

The Grand Delusion
By Joel S. Hirschhorn
Thanks - posted as flashback: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/168582-A-Conspiracy-of-Two-Parties-The-Grand-Delusion

and please include links to sources - hence the edit.
 
SAO said:
...
So when the C's tell us that "invasion happens when programming is complete" I think its safe to say that if programming is not complete, it's certainly very close to being complete. And I agree that this election spectacle is playing out like some movie right now, it's almost unreal. But if we think THIS is a movie, wait till the bigger comets start hitting, marshal law is declared, or war on Iran, or literally a UFO invasion. I think this "movie" is quickly going to get a lot more fascinating, unreal, and terrifying.

And I gotta say that it's hard not being shocked by it all as it happens, even if we all basically saw it coming a mile away. It's still crazy to observe this unbelievable show. I just hope we don't get sucked in by the spectacle and craziness of it all and lose sight of our goals or be immobilized. In other words, let's not get shell-shocked together with the rest of the planet and remember the Work and what we're doing and why, even as the craziness escalates into epic proportions.

And the Obama movie continues. It has been interesting reading everyone’s thought on the matter. I think that SAO describes the current situation extremely well. When I was observing the reaction of the Obama win, and all the raw emotion, I just couldn’t help thinking about the C’s quote "invasion happens when programming is complete". It’s really disturbing observing not just Americans, but the whole world with people from all walks of life caught in the program of the “savior”.

On the movie note, ever since Obama started his run for the puppet show, I immediately started thinking about the movie that I saw 10 years ago. Does everyone remember the movie deep impact? When that movie came out in 1998, I distinctly remember thinking how odd that they had a black actor (Morgan Freeman) playing the role of the president.

At the time I was thinking to myself “ya a black president can only come to power if it’s the end of the world.” Well let’s just say I’m feeling a little unsettled right now.


Here is a link to the movie info.

_http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120647/

“Tagline: Heaven and Earth are about to collide.”

“Plot: Unless a comet can be destroyed before colliding with Earth, only those allowed into shelters will survive. Which people will survive?”
 
I didn't hear Obama's acceptance speech. Now after reading it, it seems to me that the PTB needed a new mask. The old one was falling off and in disrepair and had too many holes that could be seen through.

Now that they have the new mask in place, things can proceed as the PTB see fit.

I have been wondering why, if it was so obvious to us that Sarah Palin is not educated enough, nor experienced enough to run for Vice President of the U.S., the GOP could not also see this. But, maybe, they did, indeed, see this. And they sacrificed John McCain by choosing a redneck, uneducated white supremacist as his running mate ensuring his election loss so that this new mask could be donned.

This is the only thing that makes sense. Not only has the U.S. been mollified, but the entire world. Well, except for those who are aware of just how things really work, that is.

It will, indeed, be interesting to see how things play out now. :shock:
 
Nienna Eluch said:
I have been wondering why, if it was so obvious to us that Sarah Palin is not educated enough, nor experienced enough to run for Vice President of the U.S., the GOP could not also see this. But, maybe, they did, indeed, see this. And they sacrificed John McCain by choosing a redneck, uneducated white supremacist as his running mate ensuring his election loss so that this new mask could be donned.

This is the only thing that makes sense. Not only has the U.S. been mollified, but the entire world.
Hi Nienna Eluch, It did also serve to exacerbate further divisions between the populous, raising racial tensions...divide and conquer.

Nienna Eluch said:
It will, indeed, be interesting to see how things play out now. :shock:
Yep, it's fascinating alright. :scared:

edit: just saw this UK Sun (Murdoch paper) front page image:
uks.jpg

equating this with the moon landing - As many have said, can't help feeling there is a set-up here.
 
pob said:
edit: just saw this UK Sun (Murdoch paper) front page image:
equating this with the moon landing -

Interesting, I see more Superman imagery there - the running start, the flag as cape and the 'leaping buildings in a single bound' - either way - they sure are pushing the hero meme ...
 
[quote author=Laura]
Well, for what it's worth, last week I dreamed Obama won. I wrote to our atty's (Pepin/HBI suit) as follows:
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[quote author=mugatea]
I had a dream last night while the elections were taken place n the US. I dreamt of an Obama victory where he and his his supporters were standing on a podium celebrating their success and then it turned to the McCain camp who were on the opposite side of the room and looking back to the Obama camp and at first were cheering but then rage filled their non blinking penetrating eyes, they were all bearing their snow white perfect teeth and they began to chant, and they were expressing pure hate and poison it seemed back to the Obama camp.
[/quote]

I didn't find it significant when I posted my previous replay, but last night I also had a dream of Obama wining elections. We ware in fact shaking hands and I was congratulating him on his victory and give him some kind of warning over things ahead. We ware in this big convention hall with a lot of crowd cheering, but Obama looked to me a bit surprised over his victory and disoriented, like whata am I gonna do with this?

A bit odd? Don't you think? So much Obama dreams!?!
 
anart said:
Interesting, I see more Superman imagery there - the running start, the flag as cape and the 'leaping buildings in a single bound' - either way - they sure are pushing the hero meme ...

I was just going to write that he looks like Captain America. Which is kind of funny - at least to me.
 
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