Batman US cinema shooting: Fourteen dead in Denver

Sinny said:
Buddy said:
Sinny said:
I dunno how to feel about this stuff, is the Occult and Numerology *really* this significant?

I would say no. Who benefits if people believe the cause of this tragedy lies within "the Occult and Numerology"? The poster in question could simply have uncovered apparent significations that others calculated, planned and carried out ahead of time.

Not just in this instance though, like The Kabala, and all things strange and wonderfull... Does it actually make any sense or is it order out of chaos that *we* find because we *look* for it?

Sorry, I'm always looking for guidence :halo:

Sorry, I meant that I would say no for this context. I don't know that there is a single satisfactory answer to the general question, though. Besides, the phrase "I'll see it when I believe it" is fairly well known these days, so who knows for sure? :)
 
The FBI theater warning-Evidence of a planned event?

I just found this a few minutes ago. It would seem that on May 17, the FBI issued a warning about theater attacks after the Somalia event. What are the chances that the Colorado event is just coincidence? Any more information would be helpful, as I am still searching. Here are the links I have found for this.

http://info.publicintelligence.net/DHS-FBI-TheaterAttacks.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9aVMfYR8to&feature=em-uploademail

The second link is youtube user Dutchsinse. There is more information there including various links. I'm not entirely sure if the document mentioned is real, or is part of some nefarious plan or disinformation.

Mod Note: Post merged with main discussion about Aurora Colorado shooting
 
Sinny said:
Buddy said:
Sinny said:
I dunno how to feel about this stuff, is the Occult and Numerology *really* this significant?

I would say no. Who benefits if people believe the cause of this tragedy lies within "the Occult and Numerology"? The poster in question could simply have uncovered apparent significations that others calculated, planned and carried out ahead of time.

Not just in this instance though, like The Kabala, and all things strange and wonderfull... Does it actually make any sense or is it order out of chaos that *we* find because we *look* for it?

Sorry, I'm always looking for guidence :halo:

Have you read the Wave series by Laura, which can be found here? If not, it will help you to understand what we are about here and help you to understand some of the things we talk about. Many of your questions will also be answered by reading this series, along with Amazing Grace (also for free on the site given for the Wave), Secret History of the World, High Strangeness and 9/11: The Ultimate Truth - all by Laura.
 
FWIW, James Holmes was also working on a PhD in neuroscience and listed as being previously enrolled in a class called "Biological Basis of Psychiatric and Neurological Disorders", perhaps strengthening a case for Holmes experiencing a form of "mind control". See: _http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/07/20/who-is-james-holmes-suspected-shooter-is-24-may-have-house-full-of-explosives- and: _http://abcnews.go.com/US/colorado-movie-theater-shooting-suspect-bought-guns-6000/story?id=16817842#.UAomL7VrPAI

Also, the FBI / DHS issued a warning for possible theater attacks on May 17, 2012. See: _http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3AzVGvdC5GMmcJ%3Ainfo.publicintelligence.net%2FDHS-FBI-TheaterAttacks.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us ...Though I am not sure of how credible the source is for this document.
 
Eboard10 said:
A very interesting analysis of the guy behind the shootings, suggesting that it wasn't a lone gunman attack and that the student might also be Greenbaumed.

http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html

Some of the oddity's about this indecent.

1. There was conflicting testimony (from TV news), that he kicked in the door of a side exit. But fire codes maintain that the door swing out (not swing in) this why they have panic bars attached to them, to make the flow through an emergency egress more orderly, and lessen the chances of people being trampled, or to have the doors swing close by the pushing crowd trying to exist.

2. That just before he entered, some one got a call on a cell phone, and used the very side door emergency exist the gunman would come through moments later.

3. That the gunman doing the shooting was 6' or 6'3" inches tall, muscular (was one i heard), wearing some sort of outfit, consisting of gas mask, a swat helmet, some sort rifle, (consisting of a shotgun, or a AK-47), a hand gun, wearing some sort of body armor, or bullet proof vest, and dressed in black.

4. That the g unmans entry was timed at the first gun fight of the beginning of the movie, which confused people whom thought it was part of the venue, or was a prank, until he fired one round into the air which incited the chaos, and then started the shootings.

5. That wittiness 0 below said that she was near the exist, and he pointed the gun at her, but did not fire at her, but then when did start shorting people that he shoot a man sitting next to her in the head, and that's when she hit the floor, and eventually was able to escape.

But what was odd about her was, she did not display any real emotions, of having gone through that kind of duress. And at one point during the press interview laughed, or giggled toward the end of her interview which was strange. She would also be quoted by a number of times from different new station's with the same response, which seemed more like a scripted story then the actual incident.

6. Witness 2, this guy was not even there, but was given information by female whom supposedly was there, give a play play description of the event. He also had a long, and lengthy story of the mayhem which as well as was picked by other news agency's for an interview.

7. Like Eborad10 said, that there was more than one gunman, as there was the discharge of the (as one person put it, flash bang) canisters. One came over the isles from right to left and another down the center isles, and another up the middle of the theater. And there was also a claim that one came from the back of the theater. Not three, just conflicting directions of two detonations.

8. That there were were 3 security guards, or policeman in the establishment before the shows had started in the lobby. And that some one had instructed patrons when the shooting started to happen in other screened halls not to go out of the theater. Like 911 don't leave the building go back to your desk, as if for more of kill factor.

9. And then the way they found the gunman near, or in his car, and that he did not put a struggle, or a fight when apprehended, as if a space case, or under some sort of daze.

10. And witness p below. When he started his story he babbling a mile minute with his dissemination of the event's. And portrayed him to become visibly upset, but lacked no real empathy, or emotions, to much hand movement, more like an acting part, complete with a crying tear timed at the end, for maximum effect for the illusion.
_http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/colorado-dark-night-shooting-witness-guy-shot-16820698

This incident is all to reminiscent of the Gifford shooting. With all the same calamity, and conflicting testimony of the witness, that had been part of it.

What was also ire of that event was that they let the cab driver go, the one whom delivered that shooter. There was never one interview, or no press coverage of theis individual to talk of him as possilbly being complicit in that incident. Like he just vanished.

And the Batman poster is kind of weird, with the flash of light coming from behind, as if a gun blast, and a facsimile of spewing martial from blast from behind.

So it all stinks of black ops operation. Though, there is no proof, but it sure has all the coat tails of one, even handling the conspiratorial aspect of it just like 911.

This was posted from Twilight Language, a convenient conspiratorial site that put dots on the i's and cross the t's site.
_http://copycateffect.blogspot.fr/

The name Aurora means "dawn." The Roman goddess of the dawn was named Aurora, and her siblings are Sol (Sun) and Luna (Moon). Aurora is an extremely popular name in Norway, being the 16th most used in 2006
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"It is always darkest just before the day dawneth." - English theologian and historian Thomas Fuller (1608 – 1661)
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LrHkZ4rH1Nw

Now that the date of the release of The Dark Knight Rises and this visual Bane is upon us, let's look at the fact the film is opening on July 20, 2012. 7.20.2012. 20.7.2012.

Is there any more important incident, historically, for Earthlings than the simple fact this is the anniversary of humans landing on the Moon? In 1969, on July 20th, Apollo 11 made the first successful manned landing in the Sea of Tranquility on the Moon. Freemasons Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, complete with a Masonic flag, became the first humans to walk on the Moon. This is also the anniversary date in 1976 of Viking 1, an American craft, landing on Mars. To continue the space theme, Star Trek's Scottie, James Doohan (born 1920), died on July 20, 2005.

Assassinations have been associated with July 20th, as well. In 1944, Adolf Hitler survived an assassination attempt led by German Army Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg, known as Operation Valkyrie, at Wolfsschanze (Wolf's Lair or Wolf's Fort) in the Masurian woods, near Rastenburg, East Prussia, now Ketrzyn, Poland. In 1951, King Abdullah I of Jordan, a Freemason, who had worked directly with British hero and Freemason T. E. Lawrence of Arabia, was assassinated by a 21-year-old Palestinian, Mustafa Ashu, while attending Friday prayers at the Al-Aqsa Mosque, Jerusalem. The mysterious death, some say assassination, of the American actor and martial artist Bruce Lee occurred on July 20, 1973. This is the date in 1977, on which the CIA released documents under the Freedom of Information Act revealing it had engaged in mind control experiments, under Project MK-Ultra (1953-1973).

This is, and was like all the other cowardice attacks, meant for one purpose of for filling an agenda, with some mind control to induce fear, and trauma in the general population. Like the C's have shared, and said it represents the herding of the population, for strictness down the road, for coming events yet to happen.

October 13, 2001
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=18644.msg176209#msg176209

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.
Q: And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Loriea.
Q: And where do you transmit through?
A: Cassiopaea.
Q: My first question: People are talking about, and are concerned about, what is to be the proper attitude, or the proper action - if any - or behavior, or response to the current situation in the world: terrorist activity, the increasing controls of the government, that sort of thing. In other words, they are wanting to know if they should take action, or if they should just observe. Or, should they be guided by their individual situations. People are concerned. Can you respond to these concerns?
A: Most people will not be harmed in direct ways.
Q: If most people will not be harmed in direct ways, does this mean that the idea that the United States may become the target for an all out... (A) Before you ask, "most people" is an imprecise term. "Most people" could be just over half. That leaves a lot of room for "people" being harmed. (L) Can you be more precise?
A: Force will not get out of hand yet.
Q: (A) Which I read as a "negligible number of people will be harmed" in global terms. (L) Is it true that only a negligible number of people will be harmed in the upcoming period?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) But, of course, if one is among that "negligible number," it can be up-close and personal. Can you give us - do we dare ask for a number? (A) No, because then we would have to specify the country and work our way through all the details. You see, four thousand is still negligible in global terms. (B) Will the primary harm to people be psychological?
A: Partly but also real strictures.
Q: (L) Do you mean greater control and loss of freedoms? Is this stricture going to be physical, or a stricture on our freedoms, or a combination of both?
A: Both.
Q: (L) Is there going to be a witch hunt in this country for people who the government wishes to identify as being potential terrorists, or anti-American, like the McCarthy era?
A: First there will be controls by laws. Then more force.
Q: (L) Is all of this going to culminate in some plan that is being activated at the present time? Is this all directed to a specific outcome by the powers that be, so to speak?
A: Mostly; but unexpected twists and turns from opposing forces.
Q: (L) And who are these opposing forces? Are there good guys, or is it just like another "gang," as in global gang wars? Using "gangs" metaphorically here.
A: 4th density STO will manifest help for some 3rd Density groups.
Q: (L) Do any of those 3rd density groups that are going to be helped include us? {Laughter.}
A: Close
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Sinny said:
Don't worry, I'm well aware of the antics on ATS, in my introduction, I explain why I decided to join other forums such as this one..

I'm a believer in "know thy enemy" and "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer"

I observe all fronts :)

Any thoughts on what the guy posted anyway?

I think it is interesting, like the Xineohpoel posts prior to 9-11. I would say that it was 1) an agent sent out to create an illusion of accuracy; 2) somebody who actually psychically picked up the plan in advance. I would say that the former is more likely mainly because of the context in which it was placed. After all, an analysis of the Xineohpoel posts suggests MOSSAD connections.
 
Laura said:
I think it is interesting, like the Xineohpoel posts prior to 9-11. I would say that it was 1) an agent sent out to create an illusion of accuracy; 2) somebody who actually psychically picked up the plan in advance. I would say that the former is more likely mainly because of the context in which it was placed. After all, an analysis of the Xineohpoel posts suggests MOSSAD connections.

I thought of Xineohpoel too. Didn't the Cs say he had 4D STS connections and that's how he knew? Can't find the relevant session though.
 
Was the Batman movie shooting imitated from scene in 1986 comic?

The horrific shooting at the screening of The Dark Knight Rises in Colorado late last night bears eerie similarities to a scene in the 1986 comic Batman: The Dark Knight Returns. In the comic, a crazed, gun-toting loner walks into a movie theater and begins shooting it up, killing three in the process. The passage concludes with the media blaming Batman for inspiring the shooting, though he is not involved in the incident at all.

The 1986 comic, written and drawn by Frank Miller, was a key inspiration for the Chris Nolan Batman films. It helped to reimagine the character away from his Saturday morning cartoon image and into a dark, grim avenger. The point of this particular scene in the comic was to show just how far Gotham has fallen since Batman had retired.

Was the shooter imitating this scene from the comic? Maybe, although in the scene the shooter is portrayed as inspired by his disgust at pornography and heavy metal music. The police’s investigation will surely reveal more in the near future.

source: _http://washingtonexaminer.com/batman-movie-shooting-imitated-from-scene-in-1985-comic/article/2502701

there's a cutting from the comic in original article.
 
Eboard10 said:
A very interesting analysis of the guy behind the shootings, suggesting that it wasn't a lone gunman attack and that the student might also be Greenbaumed.

http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html

This is interesting. Especially how he could have afforded all that expensive equipment.
 
Mr. Premise said:
Eboard10 said:
A very interesting analysis of the guy behind the shootings, suggesting that it wasn't a lone gunman attack and that the student might also be Greenbaumed.

http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html

This is interesting. Especially how he could have afforded all that expensive equipment.

Indeed, and I find myself a bit miffed that people aren't wondering how he could have gotten so far with all that gear when everything from the Patriot Act, Dept of Homeland Security, robot spy planes, security cameras and millions of other bits of legislated and unlegislated privacy intrusions couldn't stop it?

I can't stop wondering just how much we could collectively save, in money and lives, if we just stopped paying all these pathocratic expenses and just started paying attention to what's going on around us. Arghhhh!
 
Hello all.

I went to the Movies with my kids to see Ice Age 4 last Thursday night. When I heard this story yesterday on the radio in the car, i had to tell my partner about the thought that I had while we were sitting watching the shorts before the main movie started.

We were seated above the entrance and while staring at the entrance the thought of a man walking in and shooting at us sitting there so vulnerable played in my mind. My heart fluttered and I had anxiety run through me for as bit and I had to breathe and settle myself in silence. I looked to my partner to tell him how I was feeling and what I was thinking but thought not to as I didn't want my partner looking at me funny at such a time.

I'm not saying I had a psychic moment, I will say that I guess after all the wackiness that has been happening lately, my mind and imagination were saying to me that this scenario is totally possible and maybe even expectable.
 
Strangely, the statement of the killed journalist Jessica. I translate the German text with the translator.
His sister, who wrote under the pseudonym Jessica Redfield for a radio station, especially on the beloved of her hockey was only six weeks earlier escaped a similar madness in short supply. In a shopping center in Toronto, two people died and five were injured when a fight between gangs at a criminal to get started shooting. Because of a "strange feeling" Jessica had to leave immediately before the shopping center.

"I can not get this strange feeling in my chest. Do not want to leave this blank, almost sickening feeling," the young woman then wrote in her internet blog. "I noticed this feeling when I was at the Eaton Centre in Toronto, only a few seconds before someone started shooting in the restaurant area. A strange feeling made ​​me go outside and avoid the evil of ignorance."

Could she be the target?
 
One other point.
The profile of the perpetrator of 2006 (with suit) has strong variations of the mouth nose and eyes in comparison of the picture that shows him in the sex forum.
 
Jean d`arc said:
Strangely, the statement of the killed journalist Jessica. I translate the German text with the translator.
His sister, who wrote under the pseudonym Jessica Redfield for a radio station, especially on the beloved of her hockey was only six weeks earlier escaped a similar madness in short supply. In a shopping center in Toronto, two people died and five were injured when a fight between gangs at a criminal to get started shooting. Because of a "strange feeling" Jessica had to leave immediately before the shopping center.

"I can not get this strange feeling in my chest. Do not want to leave this blank, almost sickening feeling," the young woman then wrote in her internet blog. "I noticed this feeling when I was at the Eaton Centre in Toronto, only a few seconds before someone started shooting in the restaurant area. A strange feeling made ​​me go outside and avoid the evil of ignorance."

Could she be the target?

or she could have been involved in some way.
her strange actions and the fact that she was on both shooting scenes makes me suggest that she maybe was a mind controlled victim too, with a specific mission in both shootings.
 
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