Black Hawk military helicopter collides into American Airlines flight landing at Reagan Airport in Washington, DC

[SOTTREADER]

The reality is that piloting any aircraft requires certain advanced skills. Those skills include excellent hand-eye coordination, increased depth perception and distance vision, ability to function under intense stress, and motion detection. Strictly biologically speaking, men are going to be better in all those skills than women. This isn't about jumping to false conclusions. It's about admitting that some people are best suited for certain jobs while others are not, and those best suited should be the ones doing it for the safety of all involved. This is the point luc was making, I believe, in decrying DEI in the context of the heli crash.

But how do we know the helicopter wouldn't have crashed if it was a man flying it? Would a man overcome the remote control takeover of the helicopter or some 4D bleedthrough that messed up space/time in the vicinity?

Btw, I'm not against the point Luc was making, or that you are making. DEI i.e. hiring people for other reasons other than their ability or aptitude is not right.

I am just not sure DEI is the reason for this crash or that someone can say definitely that it is.

It's about admitting that some people are best suited for certain jobs while others are not, and those best suited should be the ones doing it for the safety of all involved.

#i say this tongue in cheek

If the above is the presiding bottom of the line argument, then I look forward to the day AI takes the job of all pilots. #nomorehumanerror

That was a joke! Only joking.

 

[SOTTREADER]

Also, just to drive my point, why is that F35 pilot who crashed that super EXPENSIVE plane in Alaska get away from all this blame about competency? I can only imagine if it was a woman flying that jet. She would have been CRUCIFIED on social media. Scratch that, she'd have been absolutely massacred.

Pilot safe after F-35 military jet suffers 'significant damage' in accident at Alaska base

The crash, which occurred early Tuesday afternoon, caused significant damage to the aircraft, the Air Force said in a statement.

apnews.com

 

[Cosmos]

I think in regards to DEI there can be little doubt that the whole idea itself has proven to be rather disastrous in pretty much every area (most especially in the west where it is pushed the hardest). And frankly, as Trump and others rightfully point out, this is another area where common sense has failed big time.

Common sense is pretty simple there: You should only hire and/or assess/judge people by their abilities/merits/fruits and accomplishments (preferably judged over a longer period) and not based on criterias such as race while you also have to take into account that sex differences do exist and can play large roles in certain areas and sometimes maybe also race differences can apply.

 

[JEEP]

IF it's a message, then I don't think Trump is the intended recipient. Rather it's the 'movers and shakers' in Congress and the Senate and the associated govt. departments. The ones who are aware of a 'deep state'. They're being reminded not to get carried away with the Trump phenomena, that 'they' still call the shots (sometimes literally) where it matters. And to remember who their real boss is.

I'm wondering, if the D.C. crash and the Philadelphia crash were intentionally brought about, did the nationality of the passengers play a part - the Mexicans and the Russians? Was a message being sent to those countries? FAFO from the "real boss"?

The identity of the pilot flying the Black hawk has been released

Who was Rebecca Lobach? Pilot flying Black Hawk during DC crash identified

Rebecca Lobach was the White House social aide in the administration under former US President Joe Biden

www.theweek.in

Regarding the delay in naming the female helicopter pilot, apparently this was because all her social media was wiped before the release of her name. I wonder what exactly was so um, indelicate, that it had to be obliterated. I guess if there is any record saved anywhere of her postings, they will surface.

 

[JEEP]

The crux of the lawsuit is that the FAA, under the Obama administration, dropped a skill-based system for hiring controllers and replaced it with a “biographical assessment” in an alleged bid to boost the number of minority job applicants.

Tucker Carlson had already "uncovered devastating FAA emails in 2018, proved Obama team knew they were playing with fire":

Carlson explained that the FAA added a biographical questionnaire to the air traffic controller application process, which he said gave more points to would-be controllers who lacked a scientific background or who had been unemployed for the previous three years than they did to licensed pilots.

“In other words, the FAA actively searched for unqualified air traffic controllers. That is insane, and they knew it was insane when they did it, but they did it anyway,” he said.

In an email Carlson said he obtained, the executive who created the biographical questionnaire “admits that the test he devised has nothing to do with finding the best air traffic controllers. If you want good air traffic controllers, find people with experience. That was his advice. The FAA ignored this, and used the biographical screen anyway. … Compared to diversity, your safety meant nothing to them.”

Additionally:

In 2018, Carlson interviewed aviation attorney and former air traffic controller Michael Pearson, who represented plaintiffs in a suit against the FAA in 2015 on the new hiring criteria.

Pearson recounted, “In late 2011, early 2012, members of the National Black Controllers Association had a meeting with the Rainbow PUSH Coalition, Jesse Jackson, and some high-level [Department of Transportation] and FAA officials. Michael Huerta [then head of the FAA] was part of those meetings. And right after that meeting, the FAA put an immediate hold on hiring. They stopped hiring.”
[...]

The attorney told Fox News Thursday night regarding the American Airlines crash, “This is a preventable disaster. The system has been under attack through the DEI and the FAA bowing to wokeness since 2010 — since the Obama administration.”

“The lack of staffing is directly attributable to the Obama administration,” he argued.

So tragic that it took a horrific collision disaster to expose the consequences of dangerous DEI policies. Sadly, too many are still completely blind to this reality along with all the other woke nonsense beliefs.

Watch: Tucker Carlson Uncovered Devastating FAA Emails in 2018, Proved Obama Team Knew They Were Playing with Fire

In 2018, then-Fox News host Carlson covered the topic saying, "The Obama administration pressured the FAA to meet abstract diversity goals."

www.westernjournal.com

 

[Joe]

I am just not sure DEI is the reason for this crash or that someone can say definitely that it is.

I think when all of the details are considered, this probably wasn't about DEI, but something more sinister. Which leaves the DEI question a moot point.

 

[michaelrc]

I think when all of the details are considered, this probably wasn't about DEI, but something more sinister. Which leaves the DEI question a moot point.

Possibly another angle.

From a poster on Zero Hedge:

"This thread has immensely relevant details about Lobech & her family, who are connected to... Well everything."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1885859541893456205

"SPOILERS: The tragic helicopter/plane collision was a deliberate crash, likely remotely executed via avionics hackers (IBM/Northrop/Vercel/IDF Unit 8200) and was designed to serve as a “warning message” to deter certain potential COVID whistleblowers from Duke University, Hollywood, China and Israel from ever coming forward in future."

 

[Yupo]

Possibly another angle.

From a poster on Zero Hedge:

"This thread has immensely relevant details about Lobech & her family, who are connected to... Well everything."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1885859541893456205

"SPOILERS: The tragic helicopter/plane collision was a deliberate crash, likely remotely executed via avionics hackers (IBM/Northrop/Vercel/IDF Unit 8200) and was designed to serve as a “warning message” to deter certain potential COVID whistleblowers from Duke University, Hollywood, China and Israel from ever coming forward in future."

Strange the delay in releasing her identity and the scrubbing of her social media presence before release. Very unusual, if true.

 

[Ruth]

I think when all of the details are considered, this probably wasn't about DEI, but something more sinister. Which leaves the DEI question a moot point.

That's a posibility, especially if multiple aircraft are crashing at once. When it comes to this particular crash, it has been said by other helo pilots (reported by one on another forum I frequent) that this was also 'an accident waiting to happen'. The other two people onboard were male with more experience. Apparently it is illegal to fly this machine with just one pilot because there's too much to do. They are meant to work together as a team.

 

[Ruth]

This is a recent video containing a simulation of what the flight was like at night - with night vision on - from the helo's perspective (9.55 min). The jet is hardly visible at all!

The pilot in this video says that if you see another aircraft that doesn't look like it's moving - that means it's coming at you head-on!

 

[Tuatha de Danaan]

Another question that requires an answer. Why the hell are Military air force planes and helicopters practicing "dangerous manoeuvres" in civilian air space when no national security dangers exist.

This is the height of folly. These manoeuvres should be practiced at one or many bases spread over the country. They could now use drones instead of civilian jets to practice with.!!

National security be dammed. Where were they on 9/11?

 

[Beau]

Another question that requires an answer. Why the hell are Military air force planes and helicopters practicing "dangerous manoeuvres" in civilian air space when no national security dangers exist.

Because in the event of a need to evacuate high-end government officials, they have to train for those missions. That means training at night, and going past locations like the Pentagon and the White House. It's the same reason why the pilot is wearing night vision goggles. They have to train for these situations.

That's why there are regulations for the helicopters to only fly up to 200 ft in altitude in certain areas. I don't think any dangerous maneuvers were being done. It was flying along its designated path and it got too high in the air. The question is whether that is due to pilot error or remote control.

 

[Tuatha de Danaan]

Point taken Beau.....to a certain extent. But just reading what you said

I don't think any dangerous maneuvers were being done. It was flying along its designated path and it got too high in the air.

Getting too high in the air was, in this situation, was a dangerous manoeuver in itself no matter how it happened. I'm really referring to distain for human lives in the event some situation, which may never occur, to worry about bods in Pentagon or the White House.

Looks like I've got a burr under my saddle with this one. They could even train virtually like they do with flight simulators. I'll go do some deep breathing and have a cig.

 

[Debra]

Another question that requires an answer. Why the hell are Military air force planes and helicopters practicing "dangerous manoeuvres" in civilian air space when no national security dangers exist.

That’s a VERY astute question, and for My 2 cents I’ll share a comment my husband, a veteran( retired) pilot who has flow in and out of this hellish Airport many times, in the same craft type that was taken out, mentioned.
“The Accident investigators are asking the VERY same questions, why ARE these helicopters being allowed to fly through the flight/approach path of an active CIVILIAN airspace, rather than over tower, over the central area, out of final approach area.”

This is the height of folly. These manoeuvres should be practiced at one or many bases spread over the country. They could now use drones instead of civilian jets to practice with.!!

National security be dammed. Where were they on 9/11?

It’s got a lot to do with the insane amount of traffic at this airport, and of course the mix of military training, private planes, and commercial aircraft.
A factor as well, is the military presence has increased exponentiallybecause of, and since “9/11.

 

[Beau]

In a TA, it makes a voice callout "TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC". The pilot is supposed to visually sight (look for the conflicting aircraft) and manually maneuver (disengage the autopilot) if necessary to avoid a collision.

Another excellent update by blancolirio below. He confirms that there was a Traffic Alert sent. Also, he points out that the hours flown by the heli pilot and the others onboard are all within normal ranges. Some have speculated they were way below normal flying hours. Also, crash occurred at 325ft.

I've been thinking about the conspiratorial angle, and to me I don't see how it's possible without someone in ATC being a part of it. They advised the pilot of the commercial jet to switch runways basically at the last minute. Unless the remote operation of the heli is somehow able to hone in on the jet, they would have no way of knowing that the jet's landing path was changed to runway 33. As he points out in the video below, the heli and the jet are communicating on different frequencies. I'm not ruling out the conspiracy, but it seems to be this is more likely about the mistakes made by the heli pilot and the total idiocy of flying helis so close to such a congested commercial airport and relying on a mere 100ft of separation in the same space. Another point made below is that the NTSB has sent over 100 recommendations for change to the FAA and they have all been ignored.