Boris Johnson Resigning As Prime Minister

[Matty F]

I wonder if they think it'll go the same way as it did two years ago when people had Netflix and cheap food and goods to order all over the place.

They may try to send everyone back home, but if they're hungry... I daresay it won't go the same way again.

Oh I agree. From my observations people haven’t bought into the climate hysteria as easily as they did Covid. With the LGBT agenda being shoved down our throats and the economy tanking, food shortages. The government could be in for a rude awakening.

 

[sToRmR1dR]

'Nothing new: The next British prime minister must be brainwashed.'

Next UK PM must know ‘biggest threat’ is Russia – military chief​

17 Jul, 2022

The challenge posed by Moscow could endure for decades, the head of the British Armed Forces says

Boris Johnson’s successor as British prime minister should recognise that Russia is the “biggest threat” to the UK, the Chief of the Defense Staff, Admiral Tony Radakin, has said.

The briefing that the new leader will receive from the military top brass will be “dominated by Ukraine and the support that we are providing to Ukraine,” Radakin told BBC One’s Sunday Morning program. “And then we have to remind the prime minister of the extraordinary responsibility they have with the UK as a nuclear power.”

Johnson announced his resignation earlier this month after several high-profile scandals and a wave of resignations of his cabinet ministers, but will remain in office until his replacement is chosen.

Under the outgoing PM, London has been one of the strongest backers of Kiev in its conflict with Moscow, supplying Ukraine with arms, training its troops, and advocating for a military solution to the crisis, while also imposing sweeping sanctions on Russia.

According to the assessment of the British military, Russia has “a relatively stable regime,” which means that it's going to keep endangering Britain in years to come, Radakin said.

“The challenge of Russia is going to endure way beyond 2022 and 2023 and 2024, this is going to go on for a long time… potentially decades in terms of Russia as a threat,” the admiral predicted.

Moscow’s land forces “are probably less of a threat in the short term because of that degradation, that depletion that we're seeing with their struggle in Ukraine,” he said.

“But Russia continues to be a nuclear power, it's got cyber capabilities, it's got space capabilities, and it's got particular programmes under water so it can threaten the underwater cables that allow the world's information to transit around the whole globe,” he warned.

When asked about the shape that the UK military would be in if the defense spending is increased to 3% of GDP, as is being suggested by some politicians, the admiral said the armed forces “would be even more modern and they would have even more punch and they would have even more impact around the world.”

Last month, Radakin admitted that the UK had already given so many weapons to Ukraine that it would take years for the country to replace them.

“Yes, you can churn out shells and artillery, but even at the not super-sophisticated end, even at the modest end of an NLAW [anti-tank] weapon, then that’s going to take several years to get back to our original stocks,” he told parliament.

Britain would need between five and ten years to be able to field a division that “that we would want,” according to the admiral.

 

[TheSpoon]

Another related video i came across was this minister, Suella Braverman, saying that her 'parents came to the country with nothing', England gave her so many opportunities (bla bla bla) and that she would offer up herself for the position. I've never heard of her:

I met her at a long-weekend Buddhist retreat, so that shows she's not entirely dyed in the wool Conservative blue. She's obviously managed to look like a safe enough pair of hands to be made Attorney General however.

It would not surprise me therefore if they picked a young, unknown "woman of colour" (sorry I mean birthing-person) to preside over the coming decline. From there it could be a smooth transition to a super-woke labour government in a next election, but I doubt that even matters at this point.

Well @Ant22 mentioned the Glass Cliff thing which is exactly what I thought (just like May, post Brexit), but she's out of the running now so that wasn't it. I imagine enough Tories objected to her being a woman, and enough other Tories objected to her colour, to tip the balance against her. Interesting choice between Sunak and Mordaunt, which prejudice will win out. I wonder if this looks a bit like the choice between Obama and Clinton where the people who decide these things went for a black man rather than a white woman.

All this, including the Newsweek opinion piece posted on SOTT, Resign Joe, Opinion, seems like a clearing of the patsies so they can install the "real" bosses to clamp down on humanity in the guise of "for our own good". It's like waiting on the major plot twist in a really bad movie!

I don't know that I'd recognise a "real boss", as what the PTB would be looking for is someone who can follow a script, so it might not be obvious what that would look like. I mean, Johnson presided over the most draconian policies known in post-war Britain but I don't think anyone could accuse him of following an agenda. It looked like lurching from one crisis to another based on which way the wind was blowing. A variation of Clarke's law comes to mind "any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice"

 

[seek10]

Came across this, but not sure of the origins of the video - motives or players behind it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1514332952183939081

 

[thorbiorn]

As Elizabeth Truss seems to be among the top favourites, here is a comment from before that was evident.

14 July 2022 18:27
Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova’s answer to a media question on British Foreign Secretary Elizabeth Truss’ anti-Russia rhetoric
1466-14-07-2022

We have commented many times on Foreign Secretary Elizabeth Truss’s anti-Russia remarks which are invariably steeped in painful aggression and nationalism, that is, Russophobia. Now that she has joined the race to become the leader of the ruling Conservative Party in an effort to fulfill her compulsive ambitions, she has begun spewing threats towards our country and its leadership and wants to achieve a “Ukrainian victory” over Russia. Her ambition alone to “lead the free world,” in an effort to resist Russia, speaks volumes. She looks like a second-rate politician afflicted by megalomania. And she is doing all of this instead of addressing the issues at home, which are plenty.

This collection of empty slogans vocalised by a raging Truss clearly shows that, in fact, she is either unable to spot the serious crisis in the economy and in domestic politics in a country whose government she is striving to lead, or she simply does not know how to overcome it and is trying to distract voters. Clearly, the well-being and living standards of ordinary Brits are not among her priorities.

Our response to belligerent outbursts by the British Foreign Secretary, who prefers riding tanks over engaging in serious diplomacy, and her determination to “defeat” Russia, is straightforward – go ahead and try. Many have tried in the centuries-old history of our country. As everyone knows, intelligent people learn from other people’s mistakes. Liz Truss could learn from her own mistakes.

What Russia thinks of European leaders in general.
From this post, there is somewhere down in the text, and interview with Sergei Lavrov, where they talk about Europe lack bright leaders, that their leaders are limited in experience, and take poor decision, as if someone is interested in it being so.

Another point is conscience, where Lavrov tends to hold the premise that everyone should have a conscience, while the interviewer is rather of the opinion, that this is not so, as demonstrated by the case of Petro Poroshenko, former President of Ukraine, who signed the Minsk agreements and then did nothing to implement them. There is an updated and official translation of the interview up on the page of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs in case you wish to read the original.

20.07.2022 15:12
Interview of the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Sergey Lavrov to RT TV channel, Sputnik news agency and Rossiya Segodnya News Agency, Moscow, July 20, 2022
1504-20-07-2022 [...]
Sergey Lavrov: You can put it another way. The current political establishment, which has "grown up" in the West, belongs to the class of "adequate limitations": from their own point of view, they are adequate, but in terms of political experience, they represent a limited elite.

Question: Why is this so?

Sergey Lavrov: I do not know, but many people pay attention to this. Recently, H. Kissinger, recalling H. Schroeder, J. Chirac, spoke about this. Not so rude, but in general made it clear that the contrast is striking.
There is such an "average" attitude to political processes. We need to choose people who are clear and will hit some simple banal point. They came up with this "green transition": everyone will soon suffocate, die, dolphins, fish will disappear, people will be left alone in the desert. This is the "green transition" they got. Russian President Vladimir Putin described in detail how this was built in Western politics, and how it turned out to be a huge failure, since nothing was calculated.

I don't know what the inadequacy is related to. Perhaps the lack of bright leaders is convenient for someone.

Question: For whom?

Sergey Lavrov: For the bureaucrats who make up the European Commission, there are 60 thousand of them. That's quite a lot. They became a "thing - in-itself". It is no coincidence that Poland, Hungary, or anyone else asks the question: why listen to these people, including in areas where competence was not transferred to them. This is actually the case.

Question: That is, this is such an American "deep state" (deep state) already in Europe, right?

Sergey Lavrov: It turns out that so. Not quite, however, a "deep state", but the elite, the European Commission.

Question: "Shallow state"?

Sergey Lavrov: Yes, and here the pendulum is now swinging: from the side that was associated with rapid integration, to the other. The demands imposed by Brussels, which are not always based on any legislative agreements, are beginning to irritate and hinder countries from building their internal and national life in accordance with their traditions and religion. Today, they" stick " to Budapest with propaganda of non-traditional values. Hungarians, like us and many others, do not want this. The European Commission begins to make suggestions to them, to demand that they change their position, otherwise the already agreed funding will not be allocated. I think this is sad for the European Union.

[...]

Sergey Lavrov: I don't think that's a happy thing for us. I think we should take a nonchalant stance. We can't be happy that people in Europe will get cold and live poorly.

Question: I don't want to be cold. Or maybe the Europeans will get tired of the "imposition" that you are talking about? And the countries will come to power with national-oriented politicians who think about their citizens, and therefore do not want to quarrel with Russia? It is not good for any people to quarrel with our country.

Sergey Lavrov: That's right. This process of recovery is the right one. People get rid of the illusions that Brussels will decide everything for them, that everything will be the same every day: cheap energy, food, everything is fine. It is probably in the interests of Europe itself and its peoples to do this, but I do not know how such processes will take place.

We won't be happy, but we won't worry too much either. I think we should stick to a detached line. They have created such a history for themselves, they want to live in such conditions, get rid of the natural, profitable connections that have been created over many decades in the field of energy, logistics, and transport communications. It's their choice. "You won't be nice by force." This process, when they complete it (if they can do it at all, since it is not possible to benefit from it), will be costly for the subsequent development of the European economy. Don't let them ask us to go back to some agreements again. They proved unreliable. We cannot plan long-term strategic investments in the development of our country and its external relations, taking into account such "partners". We will have other clear partners. They have always been there: in the East, in the South, on other continents. Now that the West's share in our foreign economic relations has declined sharply, the share of our other partners will increase accordingly.

About trends in Europe. There is also complete irresponsibility in explaining the causes of the current crisis to the peoples of their countries. German Chancellor Oleh Scholz says there is no doubt that Russia intends to limit gas supplies via Nord Stream for political, not technical reasons. He has no doubts! As if the facts that we have repeatedly reported, and Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke about this, do not show how Europe systematically and consistently reduced the opportunities for Nord Stream 1, how it" suspended "Nord Stream 2, and how restrictions on the use of Nord Stream were imposed retroactively"when investments have already been made and you can't change the rules of investment at this stage. However, the European Commission insisted and it was done. Instead of completely filling the pipe, they limited its volume to half.

We are now being accused of using hunger as a weapon. This is what W. von der Leyen has already said.

Question: Hunger and cold. Remember, we had "General Frost"? Now - "General Wheat" and "General heating".

The interviewer raises points as if to convince Sergei Lavrov that not all have a conscience:

Sergei Lavrov: [...] Then P. A. Poroshenko began to run for president. The election was held at the end of May 2014. President of France F.Hollande, Chancellor Angela Merkel and other European leaders urged the Russian President not to say in advance about the non-recognition of the results of the Ukrainian elections. Vladimir Putin replied: since Petro Poroshenko goes to the polls with slogans of peace, promises to stop the war and restore the rights of all Ukrainians, including residents of Donbass, we will not object to the legitimacy of that process.

It soon became clear that P. A. Poroshenko instantly forgot his election commitments, deceived voters, lied to them and Western sponsors, and unleashed another round of war, which was stopped with great difficulty in February 2015. Then the Minsk agreements were signed. Not so long ago, he admitted that he did not intend to fulfill them, but signed them simply because it was necessary to "gain strength" economically and militarily in order to then "win back their lands", including Crimea. That's why he made those agreements.

Question: We didn't understand that?

Sergey Lavrov: In my opinion, I still hoped that some conscience remained there. P. A. Poroshenko confessed his true attitude to the Minsk agreements. He was not going to implement the document approved by the UN Security Council. Thus, once again, P. A. Poroshenko has already publicly confirmed that he was an illegitimate president who does not rely on international legal foundations.

Sergey Lavrov: We are currently having a big discussion about foreign agents, how right it was to develop a new law, which some people consider to be broad and ask the question: right/wrong.

I watch talk shows, including those in which you participate, where there is an argument that is clear to anyone: "They left, what to do with them next?", "If they return, how to treat them?", " Should they be allowed in?". I don't have my own point of view. Each person is the master of his own destiny. This is absolutely true. But everyone should have a conscience. And this particular person should live with it. I proceed from this. But what I can't accept is the publications (it is my duty to read some of the resources declared foreign agents in our country) and how they delight in describing the insurmountable (from their point of view) problems that the Russian Federation is facing. With which one …

Question: Schadenfreude.

Sergey Lavrov: Yes, they predict collapse. Someone there wrote that Russia is now facing death from the point of view of high technologies, because it has neither brains nor organizational structures. So write about your country!

Some others are also exercising. When Roscosmos, in response to the sanctions, told the Americans that since they themselves do not want to, we do not transfer the engines to them and the British, so they brought our corporation under sanctions. So, they can't contact Roscosmos. Another foreign agency website broke out with the maxim that our corporation has violated all imaginable obligations, is now a dishonest partner and no one will communicate with it now. We say "double standards". Here they are. You don't even need to look for any complex structures here.

I believe that these people themselves should be left alone and understand. How to treat them is another matter. Their former acquaintances, whether they will communicate with them, how much the state is going to resume relations with them-this is another question. The main thing is to leave them alone with their own conscience.

Question: Your belief that everyone has a conscience has already failed you with Petro Poroshenko and the Minsk agreements. Maybe you should just stop believing it. Unfortunately, not everyone has a conscience.

 

[Ocean]

Could Boris Johnson Come Back? Don't Write Him Off Just Yet

Could Boris Johnson come back? Don’t write him off just yet | Cathy Newman

If the new incumbent struggles on the economy or the climate crisis, it’s easy to imagine MPs and members alike starting to reminisce about the man who’s been shown the door

www.independent.co.uk

So it’s goodbye from him. But Boris Johnson’s valedictory Prime Minister’s Questions (PMQs) felt more like an au revoir than a fond farewell.
By channelling Arnold Schwarzenegger’s “Hasta la vista, baby” catchphrase, he immediately set Westminster tongues wagging that what he really meant was – to coin another of the Terminator’s favourite sayings – “I’ll be back”.

Read more at the link

 

[Ocean]

Boris urged to REVOKE resignation as shock poll shows 85% still want him as PM​

BORIS JOHNSON should be reinstated as Prime Minister and Conservative Party leader, a new poll of Express.co.uk readers has found.​

Shock as 85% still want BORIS as Prime Minister

BORIS JOHNSON should be reinstated as Prime Minister and Conservative Party leader, a new poll of Express.co.uk readers has found.

www.express.co.uk

Boris Johnson resigned from his position on July 7 following a wave of resignations from his Cabinet, leaving his position untenable. Foreign Secretary Liz Truss and former Chancellor Rishi Sunak have been chosen as the final two candidates in the leadership contest to replace Mr Johnson, yet thousands are calling for Mr Johnson to remain at No 10.

 

[Matty F]

I can’t see this happening myself but I’ll get the popcorn ready just in case!

 

[sToRmR1dR]

'Meet the idiotic version of Winston Churchill.'

Media discovers Boris Johnson’s ambition​

24 Jul, 2022

The ousted UK leader reportedly aims to return to power after his replacement fails

Fresh from being forced to resign as UK prime minister by his own party, Boris Johnson is reportedly already contemplating another run for the top job on expectations that his replacement will struggle, opening the door for him to be restored to power.

“He thinks whoever replaces him might be a disaster, and we could be back here in a few years’ time having lost a general election looking for someone with the dynamism to propel the party back into power,” the Sunday Times newspaper cited a “Downing Street insider” as saying. “He thinks he is that person.”

Despite the series of scandals that led to his resignation, Johnson is “convinced of his popularity with the party grassroots and the wider public,” the Sunday Times said. “Multiple sources claim he believes he will one day return as prime minister, like his hero Sir Winston Churchill.”

Johnson is continuing to serve as prime minister until his Conservative Party chooses a replacement. Liz Truss, currently the British foreign secretary, and Rishi Sunak, formerly chancellor of the exchequer, are the two finalists, and the winner is expected to be announced on September 5.

With the Tories marred by scandal and plagued by infighting, polling indicates that only Sunak would be able to beat the opposition Labour Party in the next general election – and only by a slim margin, the Sunday Times said. The current government is “paralysed by indecision,” and key legislation has been stalled.

The newspaper added that many of the Conservative Party members who helped oust Johnson have received backlash from constituents, raising fears that they will suffer electoral losses like those seen after the Tories pushed Margaret Thatcher out of power in 1990. “I think we may have f**ked up,” one lawmaker said.

More than 7,600 Tories have signed a petition for Johnson to be included on the ballot with Sunak and Truss. Billionaire party supporter Peter Cruddas has threatened to withhold a £500,000 donation if Johnson isn’t given a chance at re-election.

Tim Montgomerie, a former Johnson adviser, said the embattled politician expects a quick return to No. 10 Downing Street. “Boris is telling aides that he’ll be PM again within a year,” Montgomerie said.

Before he goes, in one of his final acts as PM, Johnson is planning to make another visit to Poland to “show solidarity with Ukraine” amid Kiev’s conflict with Russia, the Sunday Times said.

 

[XPan]

Liz Truss about nuclear weapons:
"I am ready to do that"

In a Telegram channel, there was a clip of 41 seconds, with Liz Trust regarding if she would use nuclear weapons as a Prime Minister. It's "funny" how trigger happy many parties have gotten lately... Alone the speak by many, I find absolutely absurd... no wait, let me correct my thought... It is the sign of our times now after all; and in a way expected during the breakdown/transformation of time, space and societies.

Perhaps this is what we really got here on stage ... just another one, competing with several others of similar breed.

 

[sToRmR1dR]

'In BoJo's shoes: Liz Truss is ready to proceed with the destruction of UK.'

UK PM hopeful ‘ready’ to use nukes​

23 Aug, 2022

Liz Truss said she was prepared to unleash nuclear destruction during a Conservative leadership debate

Liz Truss feels “ready” to launch Trident nuclear weapons, the frontrunner for Conservative leadership declared at Tuesday’s hustings in Birmingham, UK, saying that making decisions like this is an “important duty of the prime minister.”

The foreign secretary did not elaborate on which country the UK might be persuaded to use nuclear weapons against. She has delivered plenty of hawkish rhetoric along the campaign trail, primarily targeting Russia, and is an avid booster of the Ukrainian cause.

Truss also pledged to raise military spending by 3% of GDP by the end of the decade.

Both candidates have blamed Russian President Vladimir Putin for the dismal state of the British economy, which is plagued by high inflation, high gas prices, and an increasingly unaffordable cost of living, widely seen as resulting from unilateral restrictions imposed by London and its allies.

Truss and Sunak have also taken issue with Putin's planned attendance at the upcoming G20 summit in Indonesia, though Sunak wants to see him barred entirely and Truss said she would prefer to personally confront him at the event.

As of Tuesday, Truss is 26 points ahead her rival and former Chancellor of the Exchequer Rishi Sunak, according to Politico. Whoever wins will replace Boris Johnson as prime minister.

While Sunak was among the first to quit his post in Johnson’s cabinet, Truss was among the handful of high-ranking officials who refused to do so despite the mounting scandals, citing loyalty as her reason.

 

[Ben]

Truss and Sunak have also taken issue with Putin's planned attendance at the upcoming G20 summit in Indonesia, though Sunak wants to see him barred entirely and Truss said she would prefer to personally confront him at the event.

I would love to see that. She doesn't even know where the Black Sea is.

Good luck, Liz. I wouldn't recommend Judo or anything involving talking. Maybe some kind of dance-off?

 

[T.C.]

'Meet the idiotic version of Winston Churchill.'

Media discovers Boris Johnson’s ambition​

24 Jul, 2022

Via The Sunday Times, via a ‘Downing Street insider’.

I think it’s just media garbage to help shore up public opinion about whoever takes over.

'In BoJo's shoes: Liz Truss is ready to proceed with the destruction of UK.'

UK PM hopeful ‘ready’ to use nukes​

23 Aug, 2022

Again, general perception is that people don’t like a ‘wimp president’. The public are conditioned to hate Russia and mentioning nukes makes her sound strong.

 

[Il Matto]

Again, general perception is that people don’t like a ‘wimp president’

Probably quite true, given the anti-Putin / Russia generally sentiment that is thick in the air. The problem for the UK electorate is that they have no say in who becomes the next leader of the Tory party, and therefore the Prime Minister..
Boris was certainly a bumbling buffoon, but he was obviously put in that position for a reason (other than for his entertainment value!). No doubt there will be an agenda-serving reason that either Liz Truss or Rishi Sunak are next in line.. I notice that Mr Sunak has promised to 'up spending on defence'..
Welcome the new boss, same as the old boss (or something like that)..

 

[sToRmR1dR]

'Will Truss divide or unite Tory party?'

Tories Warn Truss Allies Getting Key Posts in New UK Gov’t Would Be 'Absolute Mayhem', Report Says​

By Oleg Burunov - 2 hours ago (Updated: 2 hours ago)

UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss remains the favorite to succeed Boris Johnson as Conservative Party leader and prime minister when the result of the Tory members' ballot is announced on September 5th.

Senior UK Conservative Party figures have warned Liz Truss of far-reaching consequences of packing the new government with “a mix of Johnson loyalists and right-wingers” if the foreign secretary wins a Tory leadership race, according to The Guardian.

The newspaper quoted an unnamed former Tory cabinet minister as claiming that there would be “explosive” repercussions if Truss allies were appointed to top positions in her Cabinet.

“If she wins, then on policy issues, including budget issues, most colleagues will take the view that she deserves the chance to put her plans into effect. She will get things through parliament. But if her government tries to do things on the integrity questions, I think there could be trouble quite early on,” the minister said.

Former Cabinet Minister David Davis urged Truss to unite the Conservative Party with a so-called “big tent” approach to the formation of her government.

“It is incredibly important that the incoming leader knits the party together. It was one of [outgoing UK Prime Minister] Boris [Johnson]’s earliest failures that he did not do that. He just picked the loyalists and as a result it made it more and more difficult to manage the party,” Davis stressed.

He insisted that uniting the party is “not just in the party’s interests but in the interests of delivering serious policy and winning the next election.”

Davis was echoed by Foreign Office Minister Amanda Milling, who told The Guardian that the current Tory leadership contest had been “toxic and bruising for the Conservative party brand.” She pointed out that with the winner set to be announced on Monday, “the whole party, from the frontbench to the backbench, has to come together as one united team in order to deliver for the British people and defeat Labour. If we don’t, we risk being out of power for a decade.”

Tory MP Kevin Hollinrake, a member of the Treasury select committee, for his part, argued that it would be impossible to win the next election “with a divided party, so it is absolutely vital that whoever wins [the Tory leadership race] brings people in from different camps.”

An unnamed Conservative Party source in turn warned of early Tory rebellions unless Truss adhered to a “big tent” approach, adding, “If she does what is rumored and brings back [John] Redwood and [former Tory leader] Duncan Smith, there’ll be hell to pay.”

As for 72-year-old Redwood, he is known as a Eurosceptic and a "pragmatic Thatcherite," he is consistently being tipped for a return to the frontbench with a role in the Treasury.

According to the source, “it will be absolute mayhem, unless she [Truss] makes a really concerted effort to dip into all the different factions that make up the party. If she doesn’t do that, I think this could be a really, really difficult time for her and therefore for us.”

The remarks come after the Telegraph reported on Saturday that Truss supporters are “increasingly worried” that with the exception of a few ministers, most members of the current cabinet will be ousted and replaced by people holding more junior positions but ideologically supporting Truss.

One unnamed official told the newspaper that the plans of Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy Kwasi Kwarteng, a likely chancellor in Truss' cabinet, to sack old-timer Treasury Permanent Secretary Tom Scholar would be "suicidal". The official explained that Scholar is seen as one of few people capable of navigating the UK out of the current energy crisis.

The claims followed media reports that Suella Braverman is “nailed on” to become a new UK home secretary, moving her on from her current role as Attorney General. James Cleverly, currently the Education Secretary, is reportedly to be made foreign secretary in reward for his backing of the Truss campaign.

Another staunch Truss supporter, Simon Clarke, is being touted as a potential levelling up secretary in the new government, according to the reports.

On September 5th, Truss is widely expected to be announced the next Tory leader and UK Prime Minister following her summer-long leadership contest with former Chancellor Rishi Sunak.