Brace Yourselves For War Between Iran and Israel
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Pretty sure I saw he has been seriously wounded, but no valid confirmation that I know of. Could be just rumor.
Larry Johnson says BS (@5:25) - no, shot down by the Iranians.
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BTW, Trump and USA getting blistered in the comments.
The Iraqi Shia leader has also a fatwa calling for support of Iran.
Iraq is 61% Shia and the population is around 43 million. It remains to be seen what this in reality means other than a support for Iran. Yet, support from Iraq is worth a lot instead of having Iraq supporting the Epstein coalition.
Killing the top Shia religious leader, Khamenei was not the smartest decision the US/Israel came up with, at least if they really thought it would lead to regime change. It could lead to regime change just not in Iran. What the C's said about this being a reflection of fighting going on in 4D sounds more like the real reason and the rest is just narratives which the US/Israel tell themselves.
ADDED: Grand Ayatollah Sistani is 95 years old and became the top Shia cleric in Iraq in 1993.
Iraq is 61% Shia and the population is around 43 million. It remains to be seen what this in reality means other than a support for Iran. Yet, support from Iraq is worth a lot instead of having Iraq supporting the Epstein coalition.
Killing the top Shia religious leader, Khamenei was not the smartest decision the US/Israel came up with, at least if they really thought it would lead to regime change. It could lead to regime change just not in Iran. What the C's said about this being a reflection of fighting going on in 4D sounds more like the real reason and the rest is just narratives which the US/Israel tell themselves.
ADDED: Grand Ayatollah Sistani is 95 years old and became the top Shia cleric in Iraq in 1993.
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A Spanish reporter reported live that non-Jews were not allowed to enter shelters in Haifa unless they paid $50,000. Later, on the same Spanish television program, it was claimed that she had retracted her statement, which was false. She is currently in Israel and has asked the embassy for protection due to the barrage of threats she is receiving, but so far she has not been provided with any protection (according to another Spanish source)
A slight deviation from the topic, but according to Larry regarding the Venezuela/Maduro abduction, the 3 insiders that tipped off the DEA - one being Maduro's chauffer - did so for a $50 million payoff that - now get this - Trump has refused to pay! How's that for a lesson!
Yes, we're finding out that we're actually pawns in a cosmic game. Who knew . . . And yes, the Cs tried to tell us, but did we really get it until now.
I think you need to distinguish between the mentality of the British who created and maintained the British Empire and those today who are post-Empire born people. If you are not aware, British schoolchildren these days are imbued by their teachers with a sense of post imperial guilt similar in the way that white American schoolchildren are taught the guilt of white privilege.
In spite of being a colony, the people of Hong Kong enjoyed a high standard of living with Hong Kong being one of the most successful economies in the world. Indeed, Hong Kong exerted such a strong pull for mainland Chinese people who lived under Chinese communist rule, that many were prepared to risk their lives by trying to get to Hong Kong for a better life. I know this because I have met and spoken with with Chinese refugees who fled to Hong Kong. Indeed, I went to school with two boys who had a Chinese mother and a Scottish father who had been posted to Hong Kong with the RAF, which was where he met their mother. Their mother had escaped from China with her family by swimming across the strait that separated mainland China from the island of Hong Kong where Chinese launches with searchlights were machine gunning refugees in the water. Whatever you may think of the British, these people obviously felt it was better to live under British rule than under Chairman Mao's communist rule.
My understanding was that the British had been gifted the island of Hong Kong in perpetuity but the part of the colony that resided on the mainland where there was a physical border contained the main water supplies for the colony. This part had been leased to the British and the lease was fast running out, which was why the British Government entered into negotiations to transfer the whole colony back to Chinese sovereignty. I think the British did their best to obtain the most beneficial terms they could for the people of Hong Kong since, no matter what you may think, they felt that they owed a responsibility to them. As a safeguard, they also created a special category of British citizenship for Hong Kong residents - quoting Wikipedia:
In spite of being a colony, the people of Hong Kong enjoyed a high standard of living with Hong Kong being one of the most successful economies in the world. Indeed, Hong Kong exerted such a strong pull for mainland Chinese people who lived under Chinese communist rule, that many were prepared to risk their lives by trying to get to Hong Kong for a better life. I know this because I have met and spoken with with Chinese refugees who fled to Hong Kong. Indeed, I went to school with two boys who had a Chinese mother and a Scottish father who had been posted to Hong Kong with the RAF, which was where he met their mother. Their mother had escaped from China with her family by swimming across the strait that separated mainland China from the island of Hong Kong where Chinese launches with searchlights were machine gunning refugees in the water. Whatever you may think of the British, these people obviously felt it was better to live under British rule than under Chairman Mao's communist rule.
My understanding was that the British had been gifted the island of Hong Kong in perpetuity but the part of the colony that resided on the mainland where there was a physical border contained the main water supplies for the colony. This part had been leased to the British and the lease was fast running out, which was why the British Government entered into negotiations to transfer the whole colony back to Chinese sovereignty. I think the British did their best to obtain the most beneficial terms they could for the people of Hong Kong since, no matter what you may think, they felt that they owed a responsibility to them. As a safeguard, they also created a special category of British citizenship for Hong Kong residents - quoting Wikipedia:
If, as you say, the British did not care about the people of Hong Kong post their transfer back to Chinese sovereignty, why would they have bothered to have introduced the British National (Overseas) passport. Indeed, it has been a life saver for many Hong Kongese who have fled oppressive Chinese rule by emigrating to Britain. Indeed, the current Labour Government is continuing to address concerns for the security of Hong Kong citizens - see below:
BTW: I owe Keir Starmer an apology since I said earlier on this thread that he had not raised the case of Jimmy Lai with the Chinese Government on his recent visit to China when in fact he had. I am happy to correct this mistake.
For those who are arguing that the Chinese regime is not as bad as it is painted, you might want to speak to Hong Kongese who have fled to Britain where many still face harassment and intimidation from Chinese agents in the UK - China’s war on dissidents comes to the United Kingdom - see: Fleeing Hong Kong Wasn’t Enough
I am conscious that this is a thread on the current war in the Gulf, so out of respect to other Forum members, I shall refrain from commenting further on the Chinese regime and the fate of the people of Hong Kong.
For those who are arguing that the Chinese regime is not as bad as it is painted, you might want to speak to Hong Kongese who have fled to Britain where many still face harassment and intimidation from Chinese agents in the UK - China’s war on dissidents comes to the United Kingdom - see: Fleeing Hong Kong Wasn’t Enough
I am conscious that this is a thread on the current war in the Gulf, so out of respect to other Forum members, I shall refrain from commenting further on the Chinese regime and the fate of the people of Hong Kong.
A slight deviation from the topic, but according to Larry regarding the Venezuela/Maduro abduction, the 3 insiders that tipped off the DEA - one being Maduro's chauffer - did so for a $50 million payoff that - now get this - Trump has refused to pay! How's that for a lesson!
Yes, we're finding out that we're actually pawns in a cosmic game. Who knew . . . And yes, the Cs tried to tell us, but did we really get it until now.
Moral of the story being you can't trust Trump.
Very informative/thought provoking vid of Max Blumenthal with Jimmy Dore at this link.
I dunno - as much as I think it could be possible for Trump to somehow be the Joker/top trump card that rids us of Israel and its Deep State/military/political affiliates and Zionist Christian wackos, can that really happen - and happen before our country is taken down financially and otherwise as being suggested in several of the vids making the rounds?
The next few weeks should tell the tale I guess. Will we reap what we've (deservedly/shamefully) sown?
I dunno - as much as I think it could be possible for Trump to somehow be the Joker/top trump card that rids us of Israel and its Deep State/military/political affiliates and Zionist Christian wackos, can that really happen - and happen before our country is taken down financially and otherwise as being suggested in several of the vids making the rounds?
The next few weeks should tell the tale I guess. Will we reap what we've (deservedly/shamefully) sown?
Just started watching this and George says not 6, but 600 Americans killed and 173 soldiers captured who attempted an Iran landing! This was preceded by reporting that the NY Times says Trump has changed his mind and will declare victory and call off the war!
As to the doomsday bomber with the nuke (flying at the behest of Netancuckoo):
The Cs have said that nuclear blasts negatively affect other densities as well as our own.
'Nuff said.
You know your basic history that Taiwan was the result of the Chinese civil war, so it is strange that you compare the English conquest of Hong Kong with it. Nevertheless, should Taiwan do something stupid like declare independence, then it will be defeated to finally end that civil war.
No, as the Cs said, there is nowhere in the world we can go to escape. So it's not where we are, but who we are and what we see.
Gift. Wow.
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There were rumors that some special brigade of the US army was transferred to Britain, and that they will try to seize a strip of Iranian coast in order to control the Straight of Hormuz. But its too fantastic to be true IMO.
NASA site reports fires around the world almost in real time. For example there were two large fires in Tel Aviv last evening. And of course many fires in Iran. Very interesting.
Watching several podcasts on the Iran-Israel/USA conflict and someone mentioned that Russia may place Iran under its' nuclear umbrella, so that any nuclear attack on Iran would be considered an attack on Russia, for now this is in the realm of rumour.
It may be a judo move to force a rethink to anyone crazy enough to think of using a nuclear weapon (USA. Israel) on Iran. Trump may be desperate to want a quick end to the war, and NetanYahoo, well, NetanYahoo.
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