Is anyone directing Trump's attention to the pulse of the nation? Larry C. Johnson of SONAR 21:
Brace Yourselves For War Between Iran and Israel
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Maybe that's the reason for Musk cryptic message "no gods no kings only human" ?Sooooo.... Trump, believing he's been chosen by God, goes over to Israel, whacks Bibi, finds a patsy to blame it on, ends the killing and installs himself as the new messiah taking direct control over Israel. Never saw that coming.
Trump went full biblical retard and believes he is god chosen king?
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There is an implicit assumption, which may be true, that American force will overwhelm Iran very quickly. Remember 2 weeks to flatten the curve?
In Vietnam, America dropped more bombs than the bombs dropped during WW2, they sent in 500,000 troops (of which 50,000 died), and they killed over 3 million Vietnamese during that war. Despite all that America still lost that war.
Iran has 90 million people, it's very mountainous that armoured vehicles will have problems navigating. The only real way to send troops into the interior of the country is by air dropping them. The troops then become trapped if they are cut off from supply lines !!
Clearly America would need to unleash the sort of bombings that would dwarf Vietnam which is truly apocalyptic.
Trump will have so much blood on his hands I'm not sure what to say.
America is gambling on unleashing internal sectarian violence. Everyone knows the playbook.
In Vietnam, America dropped more bombs than the bombs dropped during WW2, they sent in 500,000 troops (of which 50,000 died), and they killed over 3 million Vietnamese during that war. Despite all that America still lost that war.
Iran has 90 million people, it's very mountainous that armoured vehicles will have problems navigating. The only real way to send troops into the interior of the country is by air dropping them. The troops then become trapped if they are cut off from supply lines !!
Clearly America would need to unleash the sort of bombings that would dwarf Vietnam which is truly apocalyptic.
Trump will have so much blood on his hands I'm not sure what to say.
America is gambling on unleashing internal sectarian violence. Everyone knows the playbook.
Many seem to value what Sachs has to say but it should be known he's a Globalist and should be looked into unless you agree with those values. I think its fair to say he has an agenda and a populist form of governance isn't his preference which is what Trump represents.
Many of his "interests" have been listed here such as his position in the UN and working with Soros.
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As for the delusional idea that what they are doing now and wanted to do soon will lead to “a popular uprising against Iranian leadership in Iran“ by the Iranians, see what Putin said earlier in the thread, paraphrasing:
Russia sees a consolidation of the Iranian people behind the authorities because of this aggression, which he noted is A COMMON AND EXPECTED THING IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.
Wishful thinking is running high in empire circles.
Russia sees a consolidation of the Iranian people behind the authorities because of this aggression, which he noted is A COMMON AND EXPECTED THING IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.
Wishful thinking is running high in empire circles.
Yesterday, in this wonderful interview with Alex Krainer, he said that Israeli soldiers are firing tanks at Palestinians who are looking for food at gathering points. He says he's never seen such horrific images. So, and this is me saying it: no mercy for Israel. Let the bombs rain down on Israel. An eye for an eye? I don't know. At this point, let's say a little justice, please. Iran is a good country, I believe, which also suffered an atrocious eight-year war with the USA/Israel via Iraq. The propaganda at the time claimed that Iranians were using children with bombs to attack Iraqi soldiers. False. It was the opposite, because in Iran, they don't kill children or use them as bait. Long live Iran, long live Iran forever.
I don't have a TV so I don't have to endure the hateful and shameful propaganda, I try to inform myself, to have good sources of information, and I have this forum, a miracle. This situation allows us to see, see, see. And to use our gray cells and Poirot, the spirit of Poirot, must be very proud of us. Because Poirot often said to use our gray cells for the right cause, that is to say to save us from the psychopaths. That means also: to save our conscience, our spirit, and our souls.
I don't have a TV so I don't have to endure the hateful and shameful propaganda, I try to inform myself, to have good sources of information, and I have this forum, a miracle. This situation allows us to see, see, see. And to use our gray cells and Poirot, the spirit of Poirot, must be very proud of us. Because Poirot often said to use our gray cells for the right cause, that is to say to save us from the psychopaths. That means also: to save our conscience, our spirit, and our souls.
Yeah, how do Israel not know this. During times of war or disaster people unite and find strength, love, courage with their fellow man. A United Iran and a just cause with military might to boot. Seems like an immovable object.
That's what I was thinking, at least, that's maybe the impression Musk got. Whether or not it's true is an open question.
He's talking about Azerbaijan proper, although they may have some infiltration into Azeris living in Iran.
Even if widespread bombing is not needed, neither US weapons stock levels nor their tech level are super-high these days...
All they really have going for them is their "intelligence" apparatus and sneaky special ops and Color Revolutions, which have turned out to be not-that-useful overall against opponents like Russia.
So two weeks... does that imply a ceasefire between Israel and Iran for the duration?
If nothing else, Trump is a consistent flip flopper. Then again, that's his "art of the deal" right? Make big threats, hope the opponent takes it seriously, then back down later, and regardless of whether or not you got a "really good deal", you tell everyone you did anyway. Seems like that's all he knows. It sure does create a lot of uncertainty and chaos though.
But Trump's art of the deal - adjusted for the military domain - implies much higher stakes than the tariff domain.
With tariffs it's: impose tariffs on opponent and threaten even worse, wait for them to start to take some effect, then wait for opponent to ask for dialogue, or open dialogue yourself, then suspend tariffs, have dialogue, claim you reached a really great deal and cancel or drastically reduce tariffs. Everyone's happy and no one got hurt.
With military affairs it's: start bombing opponent (either do it yourself or via proxy) and threaten much worse, get bombed in response (your or proxy), wait for opponent to ask for dialogue, or open dialogue yourself, then suspend the bombing, have dialogue, claim you reached a really great deal and cancel the bombing. Everyone's happy and some people got killed. Don't take it personally.
Except, in the latter, during the dialogue phase, it's possible that your proxy doesn't respect the suspension of bombing and might even bomb you and blame your opponent. You definitely should take that personally.
If nothing else, Trump is a consistent flip flopper. Then again, that's his "art of the deal" right? Make big threats, hope the opponent takes it seriously, then back down later, and regardless of whether or not you got a "really good deal", you tell everyone you did anyway. Seems like that's all he knows. It sure does create a lot of uncertainty and chaos though.
But Trump's art of the deal - adjusted for the military domain - implies much higher stakes than the tariff domain.
With tariffs it's: impose tariffs on opponent and threaten even worse, wait for them to start to take some effect, then wait for opponent to ask for dialogue, or open dialogue yourself, then suspend tariffs, have dialogue, claim you reached a really great deal and cancel or drastically reduce tariffs. Everyone's happy and no one got hurt.
With military affairs it's: start bombing opponent (either do it yourself or via proxy) and threaten much worse, get bombed in response (your or proxy), wait for opponent to ask for dialogue, or open dialogue yourself, then suspend the bombing, have dialogue, claim you reached a really great deal and cancel the bombing. Everyone's happy and some people got killed. Don't take it personally.
Except, in the latter, during the dialogue phase, it's possible that your proxy doesn't respect the suspension of bombing and might even bomb you and blame your opponent. You definitely should take that personally.
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Douglas Macgregor (formally pretty pro Israel and presumably with contacts to what is happening in Israel) claims that about 1/3 of Tel Aviv is either damaged or destroyed and that Israel wasn’t prepared for Iran‘s response:
That might be partially true, but I reckon the Israelis were sure that the US will come in and “help their cause“ much more extensively and earlier. That didn’t seem to have happened in the extent they counted on.
They must be furious. My hope is that they will further shoot themselves into the foot.
That might be partially true, but I reckon the Israelis were sure that the US will come in and “help their cause“ much more extensively and earlier. That didn’t seem to have happened in the extent they counted on.
They must be furious. My hope is that they will further shoot themselves into the foot.
