Brace Yourselves For War Between Iran and Israel

MJF said:
Apologies to everyone. My brother misunderstood the news item. It was really about the USS Abraham Lincoln coming under attack from four Iranian ballistic missiles. The Iranians claim they hit the ship but the US Navy has vehemently denied this.

BTW: I have just seen an interview with Scott Ritter in which he got very impassioned over the strike on the girls school in Tehran. He still carries guilt over from the Gulf War where he was responsible for sanctioning a missile strike on an underground Iraqi command bunker in which it turned out that over 400 Iraqi women and children were sheltering (which at the time was passed off simply as "collateral damage") contrary to the US intelligence reports he had relied on saying it was empty. He holds Donald Trump directly responsible for the schoolgirls' deaths. He has also gone on record saying that the US has already lost this war as they do not have the logistics in place to resupply the missiles they are expending in shooting down Iranian drones and missiles. Once they are gone they are gone.​
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Ritter seems like a truly good man. His recent interviews are worth listening to for sure. He has a good view of the situation, understanding both western capability (from the inside), as well as the Iranian mindset/capabilities and the ethos of Shia Islam.

Additionally, he brings up numerous interesting points, such as:

Khameni most likely willingly martyred himself, died at home in the first few hours. [Although why was his family there just sitting in his house, along with all the Iranian top brass? Seems kinda dumb.]

If he had ran around between bunkers while his people had died it might have lead to regime change. Now he's the ultimate martyr for all the Shia.

Iran probably has some kind of analogue to the oreshnik.

The beit shemesh strike in Israel. The building that was struck was apparently hosting high level Israeli military conference. I.e. the Iranians have good Intel this time.

 
MJF said:
I wonder if they now have an effective delivery system? If so, could they be holding such a development back pending what happens in the next few days/weeks? Could this prophecy of Nostradamus soon be fulfilled I wonder?
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It is "logical" that Israel wants to quickly stop this advance. They have the stone but not the catapult so it's better not to wait until they also have the catapult to start acting.

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"Oh yeah - yes we stand with the West, so we have to send some troops & support the war efforts"
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This part caught my attention since it also surprised me that all those countries have not responded having the possibility of covering up Iran but maybe the possibility that they do not know exactly, at least not them, whether Iran can launch its big nuclear cucumber or not? (laughs) it's strange that these troublemakers haven't acted yet.

- Israel cannot sustain a drawn-out war of attrition against Iran and would ultimately come out weaker and more isolated.
- NATO alliance may also join under Article 5 if a missile hits a member of the NATO alliance.

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Special Report: U.S. & Israel Attack Iran, Risking Regional War

The U.S. and Israel have launched an unprovoked attack on Iran, striking sites across the country, including the compound of Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Iranian state media reports one Israeli strike hit an elementary girls’ school in Minab, killing at least 85 people...
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And we still don’t understand the justification. We’ve heard it from some congressional leaders who had said that the president needs to make the case to the American people. He didn’t, and the justification is not clear. What is exactly the threat coming from Iran? By the comments of the president and the administration themselves, they obliterated the nuclear program, if that’s even possible. By the reports of the State Department, nuclear program of Iran was a civilian program. Iran has posed no harm or threats to the U.S. homeland. And so, to essentially attack once again, like June, and call this preemptive or a response to an imminent threat, I think we just haven’t seen that kind of justification, and also to do it in the middle of negotiations. The last round of negotiations just happened in Geneva, the third round, and a subsequent round was scheduled for Vienna, for Vienna in a couple of days, and come these attacks, as it did in June.
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Our only way of defense is not to rely on negotiations with unreliable people in Washington. Our only way of defense is actually to have a deterrent, go all the way for a nuclear bomb. And this is what American conservatives would recommend also, openly, that a nuclear bomb is a deterrent. So, a regime change, I’m not sure if the people in Washington have thought this out, because if you have an alternative, then it’s feasible, but there is no alternative except for the Revolutionary Guards.
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Point out and act preemptively of what they themselves would do/have done.
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-About Iran, one should not forget that many of the current leaders experienced firsthand, the 8 year war with Iraq from 1980-1988, and came out on top. Iraq was being used by the US as a proxy much like Ukraine is being used. Khamenei was one of the leaders/commanders during that war, which caused more than a million dead and injured.
Iran came out on top and despite 46 years of sanctions, managed to have a highly educated society. They have suffered greatly by all of the actions by Israel and the West, but it has also made them stronger.

Before the current war started, Iran came out saying that if a war started, then they would give a serious response, which would eliminate the thread from Israel once and for all. (That is my paraphrasing). So it is unlikely that Iran is going to settle for peace anytime soon with those who have shown themselves to not be agreement capable and who only uses peaceagreements/ceasefires to rearm for the next attack. Iran is playing the long game and with a thousands of year long and proud history and with a cultured, educated and rich society, they are likely to prevail against the Epstein coalition. And they do have valuable partners in Russia and China, who will not let Iran fall if they can help it.
 
❗️The Ministry of Defense of Kuwait reported that several U.S. military aircraft crashed on the country’s territory; their pilots survived.

The photographs show the pilots


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❗️The Ministry of Defense of Kuwait reported that several U.S. military aircraft crashed on the country’s territory; their pilots survived. The photographs show the pilots 🔵 Military Summary 📱 Новости России | Военные сводки
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Israel has used a combat laser to intercept missiles for the first time.

The system was deployed on the northern border to intercept Iranian missiles, drones, and artillery rounds.

This system operates on the principle of a focused laser beam, destroying a target at a distance of up to 10 km. The cost of an interception is $2 to $3, making it significantly cheaper than air defense missile systems.

This is the first documented instance of using a combat laser as a fully-fledged component of wartime air defense.

Meanwhile, Israel is preparing an offensive in Lebanon, and mobilization is already underway. The Israeli army announced the launch of an offensive operation in Lebanon against Hezbollah. The previous night, Israeli airstrikes from Lebanon were reported.

Even before these attacks, Israel had announced the mobilization of 70,000, then 100,000 reservists.
 
🚨 Math of war: Iran's $250K missile vs. America's $40M defense

Eleven interceptors were launched to bring down a single Iranian ballistic missile, and the cost contrast is striking.

👉 An Iranian ballistic missile is estimated at around $250,000, while firing 11 Patriot interceptors to stop it could total over $40 million.

Iran possesses large numbers of ballistic missiles and even greater quantities of Shahed drones. Sustained attacks at this intensity could quickly strain interceptor stockpiles, potentially leaving air defense systems under pressure within days.

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🚨 Math of war: Iran's $250K missile vs. America's $40M defense Eleven interceptors were launched to bring down a single Iranian ballistic missile, and the cost contrast is striking. 👉 An Iranian ballistic missile is estimated at around $250,000, while firing 11 Patriot interceptors to stop it...
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Aeneas said:
Iran is playing the long game and with a thousands of year long and proud history and with a cultured, educated and rich society, they are likely to prevail against the Epstein coalition. And they do have valuable partners in Russia and China, who will not let Iran fall if they can help it.
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It sounds great, but unlike these cases, they do not make me see Iran as the best example.

They sacrifice someone to reassure the beast that now wants to eat them. It is difficult for me to see Iran with "honor" at this moment or so spiritual, when they play the same with their executioners at their own games according to what I read in this transcript, am I misinterpreting something?

I am very black and white about it because if they publicly showed themselves furious and promised revenge for the death of Soleimani but it happens that they themselves wanted to get rid of him.

A: Now now! Don't judge a book...

Was Soleimani not so "good" and Ayatollah if they were the "good guys" despite looking like the bad guys on this occasion?

It bothers me a lot this kind of situations where those who are screaming out for justice today, have made deals with their enemies in the past behind people's backs and so they want them to defend them.

Why were they afraid of Soleimani enough to get to that point of making those kind of deals? where can I read about it?

I don't know, for me, in my degree of ignorance about it, it seems to me that they are also reaping what they have sown, unless Soleimani was aware of that sacrifice for the common good, which was also his decision.

Session 22 February 2020
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Thread 'Session 22 February 2020'

Session Date: February 22nd 2020

Laura, Andromeda, and Artemis at the board

Pierre, Joe, Chu, Ark, PoB, Scottie, Gaby, Niall, The Lunar Module, Princess Leia, Pikabu zee Cat

Q: (L) This is the 22nd of February 2020. So that's a 2-2-0-2-2-0-2-0. Those are good numbers. We have the usual crew here. [Review of those present]

A: Hello to children of future.

Q: (L) And who do we have with us this evening?

A: Roialiaea for your understanding.

[Personal questions redacted.]

Q: (L) Alright. General questions? OH! I do want to make a comment. Last session, we were told that things were...
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Q: (L) Okay. So, the thing that I thought about it because of Iran's really lukewarm response to the whole thing... I mean, that's the kind of thing that starts freaking wars! Archduke Franz Ferdinand's assassination started World War I!! Anyway... So here we get this guy assassinated and we didn't get WW III already. So, that made me suspicious. And then they had this little response that was like milquetoast.

(Pierre) It was scripted all along.

(L) Yeah, like it was scripted...

A: Back room deal.

Q: (L) So are you saying that Trump and the Iranians had a backroom deal to take out this guy Soleimani because the Iranians may have actually wanted him gone?

A: Yes

Q: (PoB) Which Iranians?

(Joe) Rouhani and the Ayatollah.

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) So was it decided upon from Trump's perspective as a kind of gift to keep the Israelis happy?

(L) He got to make a grand gesture for his warmongering Deep State and appease Israel, and Iran got rid of somebody that they were getting more and more afraid of.

A: Yes

Q: (L) But still, I don't think the Ayatollahs were the good guys. So maybe he was a good guy. I mean, come on! Those people (Muslims) make women wear...

(Joe) Well... Not the ayatollahs, but...

A: Now now! Don't judge a book...

Q: [laughter] (Joe) Why was the Ukrainian plane shot down? Was it actually a mistake?

A: No

Q: (Joe) Was it something along the lines that we theorized? The missile system was fooled?

A: The systems were co-opted by nefarious agents.

Q: (Joe) And would that be Mossad?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Our favorite spy group.

(Niall) Does that mean then that the same elements in the Iranian regime that made a deal to take out Soleimani helped to cover it up?

A: Yes
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🚨 UAE burning through air defense missiles at dangerous speeds: analysis

Iran has fired ~$177M–$360M worth of drones and missiles at US targets in the United Arab Emirates since the start of the war, according to calculations by Stimson Center senior fellow Kelly Grieco.

By contrast, the United Arab Emirates has expended ~$1.45B–2.28B worth of interceptor missiles trying to shoot them down.

"The UAE spent 5–10x more defending than Iran spent attacking," Grieco wrote on X.

"The drone ratio is the sharpest edge of this problem. For every $1 Iran spent on drones, the UAE spent roughly $20–28 shooting them down."

"The UAE has now burned through a significant chunk of an interceptor stockpile that took years to build — in 48 hours," she added.

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🚨 UAE burning through air defense missiles at dangerous speeds: analysis Iran has fired ~$177M–$360M worth of drones and missiles at US targets in the United Arab Emirates since the start of the war, according to calculations by Stimson Center senior fellow Kelly Grieco. By contrast, the...
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