Brace Yourselves For War Between Iran and Israel

[RedFox]

To me, all the arguments claiming that these videos are AI-generated are very forced.

I tend to agree with this. It’s a distraction I think.
It’s worth noting people’s feeling on it, whether it’s real or AI, and just leaving it at that.

The rise of AI has certainly produced a lot of fakes though.
Here’s one that shows the video people have picked over could easily be faked - but doesn’t prove the video is faked.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2033514872919458226

Here’s some recent examples of fake reporting - an AI (or deep fake) of George Galloway claiming 173 US Delta Force members where captured by Iran

https://twitter.com/x/status/2033700752355672219

Here’s a fake video that George Galloway himself reposted - supposedly of a bomb dropping on US troops. The movement of the smoke and vehicle are too formulaic, so it’s likely CGI. The sound (voices) doesn’t match the situation. And the camera man doesn’t flinch or get moved by the shockwave in a realistic fashion.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2033631593282105776

The point is, lots of fakes all around! It can be easy to get sucked into wanting something to be true. Or to “prove something is fake” in order for something to be true.

I’ll leave Joes tweet as the best summary

https://twitter.com/x/status/2033672553588265442

Analysis of possibly AI videos of Netanyahu only gets us so far in attempting to determine what state he is is.

More instructive is the FACT that over the past week he has not attended two high level Israeli govt. meetings on the war with Iran.

This is highly unusual and suggests there is a serious reason for his absence.

 

[Jones]

So anyways, apparently, this whole Iran thing is also meant to take down the US. I don't get why Trump is keen on taking down the US?

I don't think Trump is actually keen on taking down the US, quite the opposite. However his actions are not having the impact he thought they would. One of the ideas that Trump was elected on was 'draining the swamp', that was a popular idea amongst the people. The swamp, however, turned out to be ancient, deep and have hyperdimensional entanglements like numerous tributaries serving the function of feeder tubes. Maybe the methods that Trump was using, including DOGE, to drain the swamp were never going to work. But the will of the majority of the people was awakened and expressed in their vote.

August 17th, 2024

Q: (Niall) Wow! Was the attempted assassination of Trump what the C's referred to…?

(Joe) They mentioned the program change...

(Niall) And the meeting with the Quorum.

(Joe) And they talked about program change upcoming. This was like in maybe February or March. They said it was in a timescale of months. Was that [Trump's assassination attempt] the anticipated program change, and it got subverted? Or is the program change still to come?

A: Program had to be changed to avoid mass violation of free will.

Q: (Joe) So the program was the planned assassination of Trump?

A: Yes.

Q: (Joe) And... but it was changed to avoid mass violation of free will. And who made the decision to change the program?

A: Quorum.

Q: (Joe) Right. So they had a good think about it, and thought it was a bad idea.

A: Violations of free will on that scale are similar to violations of gravity in your realm.

So it seems that regardless of what Trump does or not, whether the people still back him or not, the will of the majority of the people still has to be taken into account on some level so maybe it's that the US and Israel will be destroyed one way or another in order to 'drain the swamp'.

 

[JEEP]

[I was gone most of the day so have a lot of catching up to do (pg 173 in fact - I hope it's not multiple pages of AI vid detection ), so hopefully this is new]

Alrighty then!

Senior Iranian officials have repeatedly invoked the convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein to attack Washington’s political elite during the ongoing Israeli-US war on the country.

Ali Larijani, secretary of Iran’s Supreme National Security Council, accused figures linked to Epstein’s network of plotting to provoke a global crisis and blame Tehran.

Posting on X, Larijani said: “I’ve heard that the remaining members of Epstein’s network have devised a conspiracy to create an incident similar to 9/11 and blame Iran for it.

Brilliant! Cut 'em off at the pass! Take that, Larry Silverstein!

And if that wasn't enough -

https://twitter.com/x/status/2032488143568425368

Iran’s foreign ministry echoed the rhetoric earlier the same day, describing US and Israeli strikes on Iran as an assault by the “Epstein gang”.

'Operation Epstein Fury'​

The messaging has gained traction in Iran’s political discourse as vast files documenting Epstein’s connections to powerful figures in the United States continue to circulate around the world.

Iranian leaders taunt ‘US Epstein class’ during war

Iranian officials frame the conflict as resistance against a morally compromised US political class tied to Epstein

www.middleeasteye.net

Keeping the Epstein factor on the top burner is an excellent strategy - don't let the American public forget!

 

[Meliade]

Another possibility: Satanyahu isn’t dead but injured and/or seriously injured and they think that he might be able to recover enough to bring him back to the world stage at some point. Meanwhile, they create a bunch of fake AI stuff in order to cover that up and make it appear that “everything is fine“ until he can take over again and appear in public.

Or he could be overseas for security issues. And the need to generate those AI videos would be for propaganda purposes.
How would react the israeli people and the World if they knew their beloved PM ran away for his safety ? It would contrast greatly with the iranian military leadership still among their people and fighting besides them. His plane reportedly flew off to Germany shortly after the start of the war, but only with crew members inside apparently...
I find difficult to think that the man, who during 30+ years pushed for the advent of this conflict and was surely forewarned by the beginning of it, died "so easily" without enjoying the "show" he contributed greatly to bring upon us. His job is maybe done and he is enjoing some Fortnite with Epstein on a remote place.
It don't help that those videos look/feel weird (Editing, saturation, motion...)

Anyway just some random speculations. As some members said, it's not really that important. Him being alive or not wil not impact in any way the futur progress of this war.

 

[Ruth]

I would bet against an announcement tomorrow or any time soon because a video was just published on his account “of him being alive and well“. Would be a pretty stupid thing to do: Publish such a video and in a matter of just 1-3 days afterwards say he is dead or not well. As for the question if he is still alive, I‘m not sure either, but would now tend to think that he might be still alive.

You don't think Israel can "do stupid"? They've already got the US to bomb Iran - in their name - which no-one wanted, except the neocons and zionists in power, and didn't figure out that it might end up actually having the reverse effect on them, and completely destroying them. Right now I wouldn't put anything past them.

My next subjective thought is they're going to martyr Ben Shapiro (and blame it on Candice, of course). Because after the roasting she just gave him, he's no longer much use to them except in that role.

This whole situation is completely bonkers. I've just watched a CNN video trying to claim that the two AI videos of Bibi are real and the still photos of him bloodied and being pulled from the rubble are fake. Still laughing about that weird (maybe not so weird, but predicable?) position.

 

[Alejo]

I won't attempt to describe it. Watch at your own discretion.

That was actually pretty good, a nice little rundown of how Israeli society behaves towards itself. Now add that, their own segregation and racism with how they perceive the rest of us. it makes sense that they'd have no issue threatening the entire world over their whims.

 

[Ruth]

Please, don’t take this personally, I don’t want to offend anyone, but it seems to me that we all so badly want the death (justice! not the blood) of this criminal to be true that it clouds our perception of the situation.

Well so do lies and censorship. Besides, if he's dead it probably doesn't matter that much anyway. The US still has to extricate itself from an absolutely disastrous action that they took on Israel's behalf. We can go 'big picture' on this? The fact that people are FINALLY seeing what Bibi truly was in terms of his problematic behaviour over very many years, only to find out (maybe) that now he's dead..... Well, it is what it is. Israel and the US's response to this has been weird and ludicrous. Presumably because they want to 'continue his legacy', and if he was dead, then they wouldn't have a legitimate reason to do so?

By the way, in that coffee shop video, I was imagining that the word on the cup - you can see the S-A-T, that the remaining letters were A-N. Oh no!