Can a house (or a person) really be cursed in such a targeted way
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I'm sorry this happened to you, Nachtweide. I know from first hand experience how horrible it can be, and I'm sending you a big hug.
Good work, saying NO and drawing a firm boundary is a good step. The complexity is in your situation is your profession as a caregiver. I've heard it said that when you stop performing for others, this is when trauma starts to heal. So how to achieve a balance here? Caregiver burnout is a huge issue for those who make their living by providing care, as I'm sure you know. They often don't adequately take time to care for themselves. Gabor Mate has a good talk on all this:
So if I may ask, do you feel you take enough time for yourself to just rest? Are you also a caregiver to yourself? Maybe it's time for a vacation...
I think perhaps daily grounding meditations would be an important tool in your toolkit.
So how might you filter out this sediment? I say this to emphasize that clearing the internal chaos is what was advised in the session I quoted before. This has a direct affect on the external world. It still makes sense to attend to external events, but it is therapeutic for those with CPTSD to make steps towards understanding our own internal power. In other words, we can't always change our circumstances, but we can change our attitude or our response, which is based the way we 'See' what is happening. We can also change the story we tell ourselves about it.
To give an example, for a long time I had vehicle issues, and it caused me a rusty metric ton of stress. I decided, eventually, that I just wouldn't care about it anymore. In other words, it had been a fruitful ground for the production of negative emotions and worry, so I did what I could to stop the bastards from feeding on me with their old tricks with my vehicle. Now if I get a vehicle issue, it's just a normal part of life, and I do what I can do fix it. I can even do it with a smile, remembering how I used to let it rile me up, and laugh triumphantly, 'Not today, Satan! Muah-ha-ha-haaa' This is based on a session as well:
Session 29 December 2009
So where you are doesn't really matter. The preponderance of focus is who you are and what you see. Applied to the situation with your house, how might you see your situation differently? What new tricks might you invent to help yourself right now? Instead of indulging in the thought of 'I no longer have a home' - what is a different story you could tell? What help can you receive from outside?
Sorry, I expressed that incorrectly. From time to time I receive an insurance policy certificate that lists me and my two sons. Two separate premiums are debited from my account. I always assumed that one contribution was mine and the other was assigned to my sons. Now, for the first time, I’ve looked at all my insurance policies in detail, and only then did I realize that this had been a mistake on my part. I admit that I hadn’t looked closely enough all these years.
Hi, Nachtweide
I don't "spill the beans", I don't look into a crystal ball, or tarot cards, etc. (Honestly, if I were to do such things, I don't believe I would easily, at such a level, connect with unknown people).
So I can only assess and understand your situation based on what you write and how you present the situation.
You started with the image of a victim. Confused, emotionally unstable (water phobia - to the point that you are afraid to swim in the sea), a person who ended up in an environment "infested" with witchcraft, whose reality is falling apart due to such influence and who has come to believe in her powerlessness, and seeks intervention from others (countermeasures for spells, and almost exorcism).
Of course, you received comments aimed at self-empowerment. As the comments came in, you started to show chameleon-like qualities (from not bathing at all, it turned into I can float and ride on a boat, etc.) You started adjusting the narrative, which caused me to raise an eyebrow, and a total conflict occurred when I read this:
Now I'm reading about a self-confident and even conflicted person, who stands up for his rights, who knows what he wants, unbearable financial expenses are actually not that (everything is covered by insurance) and the question arises: Where has the victim disappeared? And it even slides towards: Who is actually the victim? Which personality is right; the one at the beginning, the one later, or both?
The question of the real intention/goal of opening this topic is certainly raised. Did you come to ask for help or to manipulate some "spiritual secrets" that would serve you to strengthen your dominance.
By responding to others and to myself, the picture turned into the complete opposite. Those two completely different/conflicting images invalidated (for me) the credibility of everything written.
I don't "spill the beans", I don't look into a crystal ball, or tarot cards, etc. (Honestly, if I were to do such things, I don't believe I would easily, at such a level, connect with unknown people).
So I can only assess and understand your situation based on what you write and how you present the situation.
You started with the image of a victim. Confused, emotionally unstable (water phobia - to the point that you are afraid to swim in the sea), a person who ended up in an environment "infested" with witchcraft, whose reality is falling apart due to such influence and who has come to believe in her powerlessness, and seeks intervention from others (countermeasures for spells, and almost exorcism).
Of course, you received comments aimed at self-empowerment. As the comments came in, you started to show chameleon-like qualities (from not bathing at all, it turned into I can float and ride on a boat, etc.) You started adjusting the narrative, which caused me to raise an eyebrow, and a total conflict occurred when I read this:
Look, I was born and live in the Balkan and in my life I have seen such "paterfamilias" and I know the dynamics. That's why this writing has no logic of dominance. He does not behave in the same way towards the "dominant" person (which should be the paterfamilias) and towards the subordinate person/victim (which according to your writing should be - you). And it was to be assumed that in an isolated environment (such as an island) things could be even more stable and rigid. But... (there's always a but) .. my assumption.... my prejudice..... there's always an exception ... and that's why I asked you to describe your father-in-law.
Now I'm reading about a self-confident and even conflicted person, who stands up for his rights, who knows what he wants, unbearable financial expenses are actually not that (everything is covered by insurance) and the question arises: Where has the victim disappeared? And it even slides towards: Who is actually the victim? Which personality is right; the one at the beginning, the one later, or both?
The question of the real intention/goal of opening this topic is certainly raised. Did you come to ask for help or to manipulate some "spiritual secrets" that would serve you to strengthen your dominance.
By responding to others and to myself, the picture turned into the complete opposite. Those two completely different/conflicting images invalidated (for me) the credibility of everything written.
I don’t speak perfect English, and misunderstandings often occur due to translation issues. However, I believe I made it very clear that I have a fear of bodies of water whose bottom I cannot see — but only when I am physically in the water with my own body.I explicitly explained that I have absolutely no problem being on a ship or boat as long as I am not in the water myself. I only enter water when I can clearly see the bottom. That means: I happily swim in swimming pools or in clear water, but never in murky lakes, rivers, or the sea — precisely for the reason I mentioned.
And no, I am not a victim and I did not want to be portrayed as one. My actual core question was something completely different: whether it is possible that a curse has been placed on my house or on me personally, because the recurring water damage is completely abnormal and inexplicable.
I don’t understand your problem: I was asked about various details, I willingly and thoroughly provided information, and I simply asked a legitimate, open question in order to receive possible explanations. The answers were very interesting and have genuinely helped me a great deal personally.Thank you very much for taking the time to read my post carefully.
candasiri
Jedi Master
Hi @Nachtweide I was just catching up on this thread. I would say move house if you can. How wonderful would it be if you could leave all those memories and bad energy behind. If that's not possible, keep working with psychics and healers to clear the space. And I would avoid having any contact with your ex even it's silent contact. Another suggestion would be moving the furniture around and cleansing the space.
I absolutely think plumbing issues and bad energy go together. When I worked as a apprentice to a shaman, there was a woman who had a heavy duty possession. We cleared it then the basement drain went out. Good luck and remember that you'll win!
I absolutely think plumbing issues and bad energy go together. When I worked as a apprentice to a shaman, there was a woman who had a heavy duty possession. We cleared it then the basement drain went out. Good luck and remember that you'll win!
Today I had a longer conversation with my sister about the house. She put it perfectly: “This house has brought you nothing but bad luck, and it’s unbelievable how many problems it has caused – just sell it.”I can’t sell the house because my practice is located there, and at my age I don’t want to start all over again from scratch.Deep down, it really is a beautiful house, but right now it’s an emotional burden for me.
I think I’ll first try to energetically cleanse and work on my living area as much as possible, and then finish everything off by arranging the furnishings according to Feng Shui principles.I’ve already implemented several of the things that were recommended here . Thank you so much for that!
Have fun with the project and tell us if you notice improvement. Sending you some good luck
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axj
The Living Force
That's a great idea to shift the energy of the house. What can also help is to look at how you feel about the house and try to shift that - being with the difficult feelings and releasing them, as well as bringing in lighter feelings or energies. Maybe focus on what you absolutely love about the house and let that feeling grow.
I'm not a native English speaker either, and I've had trouble translating/understanding things more than once. Anyway, I'm glad things are getting better.
Yesterday some thoughts came to me about my current situation that are no longer directly connected to the original topic, but rather to a fundamental shift in perspective.
Right now I see everything that has happened to me this year as a catalyst that has finally allowed me to see things clearly. Everything that has happened serves one purpose: to make me question both myself and the world around me on the deepest level. Awakening is a process that usually requires a catastrophe or a major disappointment before it can even begin.
How would my life look tomorrow if the insights of the past few months had never come? How hard do the blows actually have to be so that we don’t fall asleep again?
When I look back at the past few months and all the people who suddenly re-entered my life, every single one of them held up a mirror to me, and it was always the same theme:“Give me your energy, your time, your emotions, your money…”
And the question immediately arose inside me: Was even one of these people willing to help me in any way, or did they all disappear the moment I voiced the smallest need of my own? Did any of them ever make my life easier?
With every person the realisation became clearer: they were all takers, never givers.
Separating yourself from people who were once close to you is the most agonising process a person can go through. It feels like dying. But you also die, slowly and from the inside, from lovelessness and selfishness.
At the same time there was this quiet voice in my head:“I am never alone. People can drop me like a hot potato, but I have my faith, my absolute certainty that the Cosmic Spirit is holding me. It will never let me down.”
Since Corona we keep hearing that society has become purely egoistic. Yet it was precisely this egoism that shook me awake. Everyone who is finally says “No”, who sets clear boundaries and puts themselves first is immediately triggered by these “egoistic” people. Without them I would never have noticed so quickly where I am still running old rescuer/victim programmes. They are simply holding up the mirror. The more egoistic they are, the faster I learn not to give my energy away anymore.
They are the counter-pole that makes the new balance possible in the first place. The emerging consciousness is built on true sovereignty, and sovereignty can only fully unfold where extreme self-abandonment existed before. That is exactly how the path is cleared for us to finally become “be egoistic” ourselves, meaning self-loving.
A week ago I reached out again to two people from whom I had consciously distanced myself. We had open, honest conversations in which we genuinely questioned each other’s perspectives. Many markers that we had never looked at together came to light, and a lot of it stemmed from the fact that, in difficult moments, they had no one else to turn to but me, so they often acted purely out of their own (understandable) self-interest toward me.
We found a clear and respectful solution:From now on we will meet each other with real respect and no longer interfere uninvited in the other person’s personal freedom.
When you truly love someone (or at least feel a deep, old connection), pride and legitimate self-love must not be allowed to keep the doors permanently closed.
Sometimes healing also means taking one more honest look, apologising where necessary, showing understanding, and then consciously agreeing on a new, mature way of relating to each other.
It feels good and right.
In short: Today’s extreme egoists are the demolition crew, and the old helpers and empaths are the architects. Right now we need each other so that the old building can be completely torn down and the new one erected in a healthy, balanced relationship.
Right now I see everything that has happened to me this year as a catalyst that has finally allowed me to see things clearly. Everything that has happened serves one purpose: to make me question both myself and the world around me on the deepest level. Awakening is a process that usually requires a catastrophe or a major disappointment before it can even begin.
How would my life look tomorrow if the insights of the past few months had never come? How hard do the blows actually have to be so that we don’t fall asleep again?
When I look back at the past few months and all the people who suddenly re-entered my life, every single one of them held up a mirror to me, and it was always the same theme:“Give me your energy, your time, your emotions, your money…”
And the question immediately arose inside me: Was even one of these people willing to help me in any way, or did they all disappear the moment I voiced the smallest need of my own? Did any of them ever make my life easier?
With every person the realisation became clearer: they were all takers, never givers.
Separating yourself from people who were once close to you is the most agonising process a person can go through. It feels like dying. But you also die, slowly and from the inside, from lovelessness and selfishness.
At the same time there was this quiet voice in my head:“I am never alone. People can drop me like a hot potato, but I have my faith, my absolute certainty that the Cosmic Spirit is holding me. It will never let me down.”
Since Corona we keep hearing that society has become purely egoistic. Yet it was precisely this egoism that shook me awake. Everyone who is finally says “No”, who sets clear boundaries and puts themselves first is immediately triggered by these “egoistic” people. Without them I would never have noticed so quickly where I am still running old rescuer/victim programmes. They are simply holding up the mirror. The more egoistic they are, the faster I learn not to give my energy away anymore.
They are the counter-pole that makes the new balance possible in the first place. The emerging consciousness is built on true sovereignty, and sovereignty can only fully unfold where extreme self-abandonment existed before. That is exactly how the path is cleared for us to finally become “be egoistic” ourselves, meaning self-loving.
A week ago I reached out again to two people from whom I had consciously distanced myself. We had open, honest conversations in which we genuinely questioned each other’s perspectives. Many markers that we had never looked at together came to light, and a lot of it stemmed from the fact that, in difficult moments, they had no one else to turn to but me, so they often acted purely out of their own (understandable) self-interest toward me.
We found a clear and respectful solution:From now on we will meet each other with real respect and no longer interfere uninvited in the other person’s personal freedom.
When you truly love someone (or at least feel a deep, old connection), pride and legitimate self-love must not be allowed to keep the doors permanently closed.
Sometimes healing also means taking one more honest look, apologising where necessary, showing understanding, and then consciously agreeing on a new, mature way of relating to each other.
It feels good and right.
In short: Today’s extreme egoists are the demolition crew, and the old helpers and empaths are the architects. Right now we need each other so that the old building can be completely torn down and the new one erected in a healthy, balanced relationship.
Regarding the damage to my house, this is how I would describe my situation today:
Yes, based on my observations and experiences, I consider the possibility of a curse to be very real. I clearly feel how the energies have shifted into the negative over the past years; that is due to my sensitivity. And yes, they could indeed be energetic attacks, exactly as described here.
But doesn’t a dark intention to destroy something inevitably carry an unintended side effect: testing and ultimately forging my personal strength?
What is the actual outcome? Did I break under this misfortune over the past years, or am I the phoenix rising from the ashes?That is precisely why this image is my profile picture.
An intentional attempt at destruction apparently triggers an entirely different process, a kind of unwanted side effect:I did not break. I was pushed under water again and again, yet every single time I resurfaced stronger.
I have learned to survive with the bare minimum. Despite enormous effort, I carried out almost all the repairs myself and today I master many trades better than the average craftsman. My creativity in finding solutions is immense, and my joy in the results is profound. People around me show genuine admiration for what I have achieved, even though I don’t really like praise.
I have become a mirror for others:proof that you never give up and always fight for your dreams.
And once again the word “water” lights up.I will never drown. I am a diver who will always see the light again.
Perhaps that is the true analogy:If the primary goal was to trample me into the ground once and for all, then this intention has produced a colossal side effect: unbreakable strength, fighting spirit, and unshakable faith in my own abilities.
And what I do has now become a living example for others:that you can accomplish anything if you believe in yourself and have an indomitable will.
That is what has emerged from the supposed destruction: something no one can ever destroy again.
Yes, based on my observations and experiences, I consider the possibility of a curse to be very real. I clearly feel how the energies have shifted into the negative over the past years; that is due to my sensitivity. And yes, they could indeed be energetic attacks, exactly as described here.
But doesn’t a dark intention to destroy something inevitably carry an unintended side effect: testing and ultimately forging my personal strength?
What is the actual outcome? Did I break under this misfortune over the past years, or am I the phoenix rising from the ashes?That is precisely why this image is my profile picture.
An intentional attempt at destruction apparently triggers an entirely different process, a kind of unwanted side effect:I did not break. I was pushed under water again and again, yet every single time I resurfaced stronger.
I have learned to survive with the bare minimum. Despite enormous effort, I carried out almost all the repairs myself and today I master many trades better than the average craftsman. My creativity in finding solutions is immense, and my joy in the results is profound. People around me show genuine admiration for what I have achieved, even though I don’t really like praise.
I have become a mirror for others:proof that you never give up and always fight for your dreams.
And once again the word “water” lights up.I will never drown. I am a diver who will always see the light again.
Perhaps that is the true analogy:If the primary goal was to trample me into the ground once and for all, then this intention has produced a colossal side effect: unbreakable strength, fighting spirit, and unshakable faith in my own abilities.
And what I do has now become a living example for others:that you can accomplish anything if you believe in yourself and have an indomitable will.
That is what has emerged from the supposed destruction: something no one can ever destroy again.
Moine
Padawan Learner
Fears of water, especially something far away from the coast, wherein you cannot see anything under say 50 to 100 feet of you, is usually not indicative of a past-life scenario. People who managed to experience that situation did not succumb from drowning on the basis of being in deep water --- they succumbed from the eventual exhaustion (depending on body composition) that well-built muscular frames experience trying to float, or worse (hypothermia resulting in complete lethargy, numbness, with eventual induced unconsciousness).
What that fear usually indicates, is of awareness, susceptibility, and sensitivity to psychic issues. I use that term psychic, but I would rather like to use the term subconscious, as it's usually portrayed about within one's psyche as a large body of water. Lots of things fluctuate within it, and a person is generally none-the-wiser regarding what's going on, but you sure do notice the effects of the tumult and commotion, should the placid and generally uniform nature of your every-day existence be caught along some wake of a coming storm.
This is also usually how ordinary existence is typically represented with maritime symbology. A person going about their lives in the world is typified by a sailing ship with a crew, representing the ego consciousness (3rd density). Changes in the aloft and surrounding weather (4th density) usually shudder the bones of superstitious sailors to some extent, but such changes usually materialize in significant changes in the sea patterns (2nd density). Should the boat capsize, then everyone's stuck in the churn of the waters, unless they find a piece of floating driftwood such that they're able to pull themselves mostly out of the waters, to be either carried by the prevailing currents to land, or be found by another ship.
These things have their obvious associations, in many, many ways to terrestrial water-ways, or in-door plumbing. Firstly, they're usually installed as an after-thought by half-shod journeymen and apprentices, they're usually out of the way and hidden/disguised by the walls or floors, and they're usually poorly maintained. Whenever water damage is incurred, it's usually a disaster, for the problem was either never addressed or never maintained, many times being a mix of both things. These things contribute to the plumbing issues in many homes, and symbolically, they also represent the alchemical nature of people, if not yourself, as mentioned above in both lived experience, and as allegory.
If there is actually a curse going about ... the first place I'd look into, is by peering over the edge, into the water, and realizing the reflection on that water, depicting yourself and the entirety of your being. I've know what merely even the possibility of emotional commotion can cause to a sensitive, and it's not pretty. Should there be grounds for what corroboration there is between a person, others, and the environment, well then coincidences can be typified into scientific principle. The example is with teenage kids in burdensome and troubled families/homes -- the poltergeist activity that comes from the sensitive kids growing up into adolescence, with the total storm of hormones, emotions, and processes of psychological/physical maturation have no place to be dampened when their parents/families are equally troublesome psychically -- the poltergeists come about and tear the place to pieces, and all of a sudden disappear when the storms eventually do pass, all to everyone's bewilderment.
I know that, since I lived with people who absolutely did not know how to regulate their emotions -- people who were also sensitive + psychic, who also didn't know that they were such things ... a complete travesty for many years.
If you let some high concentration vinegar waft into the atmosphere, then it'll help differentiate the etheric energy in the domicile for a little bit. Having huge grounding stones in the place will also help, until you figure out what's exactly going on. There's bound to be more things just lurking in the background, or in the waters, until you find and deal with them. When you do, then your place will feel different.
Just my two cents, and a little poem:
What that fear usually indicates, is of awareness, susceptibility, and sensitivity to psychic issues. I use that term psychic, but I would rather like to use the term subconscious, as it's usually portrayed about within one's psyche as a large body of water. Lots of things fluctuate within it, and a person is generally none-the-wiser regarding what's going on, but you sure do notice the effects of the tumult and commotion, should the placid and generally uniform nature of your every-day existence be caught along some wake of a coming storm.
This is also usually how ordinary existence is typically represented with maritime symbology. A person going about their lives in the world is typified by a sailing ship with a crew, representing the ego consciousness (3rd density). Changes in the aloft and surrounding weather (4th density) usually shudder the bones of superstitious sailors to some extent, but such changes usually materialize in significant changes in the sea patterns (2nd density). Should the boat capsize, then everyone's stuck in the churn of the waters, unless they find a piece of floating driftwood such that they're able to pull themselves mostly out of the waters, to be either carried by the prevailing currents to land, or be found by another ship.
These things have their obvious associations, in many, many ways to terrestrial water-ways, or in-door plumbing. Firstly, they're usually installed as an after-thought by half-shod journeymen and apprentices, they're usually out of the way and hidden/disguised by the walls or floors, and they're usually poorly maintained. Whenever water damage is incurred, it's usually a disaster, for the problem was either never addressed or never maintained, many times being a mix of both things. These things contribute to the plumbing issues in many homes, and symbolically, they also represent the alchemical nature of people, if not yourself, as mentioned above in both lived experience, and as allegory.
If there is actually a curse going about ... the first place I'd look into, is by peering over the edge, into the water, and realizing the reflection on that water, depicting yourself and the entirety of your being. I've know what merely even the possibility of emotional commotion can cause to a sensitive, and it's not pretty. Should there be grounds for what corroboration there is between a person, others, and the environment, well then coincidences can be typified into scientific principle. The example is with teenage kids in burdensome and troubled families/homes -- the poltergeist activity that comes from the sensitive kids growing up into adolescence, with the total storm of hormones, emotions, and processes of psychological/physical maturation have no place to be dampened when their parents/families are equally troublesome psychically -- the poltergeists come about and tear the place to pieces, and all of a sudden disappear when the storms eventually do pass, all to everyone's bewilderment.
I know that, since I lived with people who absolutely did not know how to regulate their emotions -- people who were also sensitive + psychic, who also didn't know that they were such things ... a complete travesty for many years.
If you let some high concentration vinegar waft into the atmosphere, then it'll help differentiate the etheric energy in the domicile for a little bit. Having huge grounding stones in the place will also help, until you figure out what's exactly going on. There's bound to be more things just lurking in the background, or in the waters, until you find and deal with them. When you do, then your place will feel different.
Just my two cents, and a little poem:
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