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(CRW Am-EU) What temporary schedule is best for you?

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For the next Am-EU meeting reading workshop, we are going to read up to (and including) Chapter 8's subchapter called "Dio Chrysostom and Mark". This would be up to location 15925 of 19213 in the Kindle version of the book called "From Paul to Mark", and up to about just the start of page 485 in the actual book.
 
Vous serait il possible de respecter les horaires du REIKI le dimanche soir à 20h en France ?
Ce soir, vous avez rendu la salle avec plus de 20mn de retard et ce n'est malheureusement pas la première fois...
Turgon s'en excuse quelque fois, merci à Lui mais le respect des horaires serait très apprécié.
Nous comptons sur votre ponctualité pour les prochains dimanche...
Merci infiniment.

Would it be possible for you to respect the REIKI schedules on Sunday evening at 8 p.m. in France?
Tonight, you returned the room more than 20 minutes late and unfortunately it's not the first time...
Turgon apologizes for it sometimes, thanks to Him but the respect of the schedules would be very appreciated.
We are counting on your punctuality for the next Sunday...
Thank you so much.
 
We will read Chapter 1: Asymmetry and the Brain for our next meeting this Saturday at 7 pm Sydney time (+10 GMT).
Apologies, but I won't be able to attend this Saturday's meeting as I have a catch-up with some friends I haven't seen in a while. I'll watch the recording and post any extra notes afterwards. Have fun!
 
Hello everyone,

Below are the links for the May 7th Am-Eu Reading Workshop.

Video and Audio and link to the Folder

And a brief synopsis of what was discussed in this workshop.

Ch. 8 Christ Under Caesar:

The text author for the gospels had some creative agency and were less concerned with chronology and history then they were with a particular agenda. This was used to come to insightful albeit revisionist conclusions, such as Mathew's use of Mark. The titles given to Jesus (Messiah, King of the Jews, Son of God, etc.) in the gospel's were loaded with particular meaning and lent a particular meaning to the audience at the time. This was meant to separate the Jerusalem Christians from Gentile Christians in Marks narrative, while Matthew did the opposite (bringing them back together).

Mark presents Jesus as the powerful son of God and one who exhibits divine knowledge. The suffering saviour motif is missing from the first half of Mark's gospel, but it's foreshadowed to happen later on and that this is a repeating template – mentioned were Enoch, Zoroaster, Julius Caesar, that share a lot of things in common similar to the Christological focus as the Son of God. This includes Service to others, the incarnation of universal principles and values, sacrificing themselves for the sins of the world and how this is connected to earth changes, i.e. What happened after the death of Caesar

After the death of Nero in 68 A.D, Rome had 4 Emperors in one year, the last being Vespasian who had served in Galilee and Judea. His lower class origins did not sit well with the aristocracy but he had the backing of his legions, so launched a propaganda campaign to bolster his image, the biggest being his military victory against the Jewish rebels and destruction of the Jewish temple – and how victory in battle represented God's choice in ruler.

This included stories of him having the power to heal. i.e. Bringing back sight to a blind man as an indication of his divine right to rule and he claimed to be the long-awaited Messiah of the Jews. The title: 'Son of God' had a definite meaning in Greco-Roman context as rulers were identified as sons of gods, for example, Caesar was seen as the son of the Goddess Venus who took his spirit out of his body as he was or just after he was killed.

The Son of Man:

The Book of Daniel talks of an eschatological figure who will appear during the end times and so even though we aren't entirely sure how Mark's readers would have understood 'Son of Man', it was already understood that 'Son of Man' was synonymous with the Messiah. Whereas Adam introduced sin and separation, Christ killed the power of sin to reestablish a connection with the Divine. An analogy used was of the good witch letting Dorothy know she can always go home.

At the moment he dies is when the power of god is revealed, because he accepted the suffering in obedience to god and this was a demonstration of power over the flesh, i.e. Faith in the unseen. Jesus has the power to forgive sins on Earth and links that power to his identity as the Son of Man. The Disciples do not believe or have faith in Jesus even though he has healed thousands in the pericopes of Mark.

To heal a blind man, he puts spit in the man's eye ALA Vespasian, but requires a second laying of hands to cure. Most of Mark's audience would have recognized this intentional comparison, yet Jesus does more than Vespasian and is therefore the true Messiah of the world. Was Vespasian pulling from Caesar's religion for his propaganda campaign and Mark/Paul was trying to separate that distinction?
 
Next week in the EU/AM workshop, we will continue on page 481 of the book with sub chapters 'Dio Crysostom and Mark' and 'Savior of the World: Jesus' True Identity,' which ends on page 506. Have a great week everyone :flowers:
 
Hi everyone,

Below are the links for the recent Aus-Asia-Am group workshop for The Master and his Emissary by Iain McGilchrist.

Here's the video of the last meeting

The audio

And the folder

And the slideshow (starts at slide 21)


We will read Chapter 2: What do the two Hemispheres do? up to the end of Integration vs Division for our next meeting this Saturday at 7 pm Sydney time (+10 GMT).

See you all then!
 
Hello everyone,

Below are the links for the May 14th Am-Eu Reading workshop.

Video and Audio and link to the folder.

And a brief synopsis of what was talked about in this workshop.

Ch. 8: Son of Man, cont...:

Mark was trying to shape a clear idea of who Paul's Christ was and that he was the new Adam, both human and divine. A big part of his message is valuing the spirit over the material world and turning towards Jesus and his example as being what it means to be a good Christian, and how the 'Son of Man' came to serve and not to be served, to give his life as a ransom for the many.

The Patrons Honor:

The Gracchi brothers tried to bring about many reforms to Rome and were killed as a consequence of that by the conservative Patricians/aristocracy who opposed such changes. Caesar sought the same and to help the masses of people which earned him many enemies who tried to portray him as a tyrant king and was eventually assassinated. His adopted son Octavian/Augustus, developed a strategy of recusatio – which is an outward projection of humility and rejection of power and monarchy even though he maintained control.

Emperors who consistently practiced this 'humble' projection of modesty were seen in a good light and not a threat, whereas those that didn't usually ended up assassinated, like Caligula. Instead of sacrificing the State to themselves, they have sacrificed themselves to the State – sound familiar? Some scholars note to look at the Gospel's through Roman ideology at the time. Jesus was accused of being a king by his opponents but he rejected being part of the Davidic line of earthly kings. Caesar also resisted such acclaim in the face of Cicero's insistence that he was attempting to become king.

Mark's Gospel was written to counter Flavian propaganda and that the Christian community is to become the new temple in the hearts of men, replacing and separating Gentile Christians from the Jewish Messianists. This separation includes denouncing the Davidic line connection, thereby reducing any authority the Jewish Christians might have. Laura suggests some aspects directly declaring this was removed from the original text.

Vespasian's Flavian propaganda was meant to discount the Jewish god, Mark's Gospel meant to show that God/Yahweh was acting through Rome due to Jerusalem's rejections of Christ. But it was also a defensive apology to show that far from being a rebel of Rome, Christians and their god were supporters of Rome and not rebellious. Octavius, Titus and Vespasian were the originators of propaganda and at this time, Caesar had already been declared as a god so Octavius, Caesar's adopted son, was called the 'Son of God', so there was a lot going on.

Mark was trying to say that God was beyond the emperor and Rome in a respectful and indirect way and that Paul's messiah wasn't the Jewish messiah.

Discussion of Caesar's reform reminiscent of socialism, but due to social and political climate was needed and how these 'ism's', as long as they aren't co-opted by pathological people, can be used for good, i.e. Logocracy a political system based on knowledge and aligned to human nature. What Paul is saying about 'we aren't against flesh and blood but principalities and powers', i.e. 4D STS and 'fighting back' comes from within/a change and to value the spirit life over the material life.
 

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