Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

When it comes to free speech I think the following guy makes a very important point that many seem to miss in that debate (while I‘m hesitant towards some of the other things he is saying). There is something that is called objective reality, basic decency and goodness, and the opposite of that, And pretending that you can judge every speech without those basic criteria’s is kind of crazy :
That’s Matt Walsh who produced the “What is a Woman” documentary. @luc brought up the same point in other words in a previous post, he said “only the left inverts reality”.
 
What if Kirks life marks a very significant birth of a new chapter in american history? More specifically, I mean his last months among the living, and most significantly of all, his death and the way he died? And could it be that the birth of that new chapter is NOT how “the PTB“ (or at least some powerful forces within it) imagined it to be in his last months and now in the early times after his death? Or they didn’t even consider that possibility as a result of his murder? Could it be that Kirk created with his life and death the first real grassroots movement/force in the US outside the 2 party system that has a REAL chance to break the 2 party system? Will TPUSA itself (and/or something that evolves out of that or similar forces in the future) be a new force and/or party that will have SERIOUS chances against the democrats and republicans in the future?
We may never get to know the truth for certain, but when talking about twists, I'm wondering how likely is the option that BN says the truth, it's not Israel who did it; and instead it was a Suleimani 2.0 scheme?
Jimmy Kimmle is a left wing late night show host , he got fired over the following statement, the main part:



I'm curious to see what people think about this.


Is this "celebrating" or a fair assesment and valid opinion.

His joke revolved more around Trump than Charlie but still the quoted segment above is the part that people are bringing up.

Kimmle was a diabolical puppet during covid, so i have no sympathy for him whatsoever and probably deserves jail over it, but is this a bit of a double edge sword?
Been thinking about the position of Trump and gang (and other administrations before) in a situation like this. It should be clear that at least some of them knew or suspected what was going on from the start.

Even assuming they overall have good intentions, they are then facing a dilemma: "go public" with this, in the sense of allowing a real investigation which would uncover at least parts of the plot, leading back to Israel/the Israel-DeepState complex? That would be political suicide, and perhaps literal suicide. The time is not ripe for any such thing, not yet anyway. So the only choice left is to cover the whole thing up, and maybe use some of the momentum for their own political goals as a sort of participation trophy. But this of course makes them even more vulnerable to blackmail, since they are now implicated in the plot. So even without prior blackmail, they are completely cornered and have only one option: cover-up. It's pretty brilliant in a diabolical way, and it's obvious why "they" would go for that play.

This thread is starting to suggest/murmur that perhaps it was CIA/mainland USA PTB/Government forces that assassinated Charlie Kirk. If that came out, it would cause the biggest shock to wake the public that I can possibly think of. Even more so than revealing Covid-19 came from Fort Detrick or that the “vaccines” are what has been killing people. Covid-19 was a slow boil and peoples emotions on Charlie Kirk’s assassination are heightened.
 
In addition to my post above here is Joe’s post from the Nick Fuentes thread:
I think the problem here is what the definition of "Israel" is when it comes to the assassination. When I say it, I don't necessarily mean Netanyahu (in the sense that he "ordered the hit"). It's more like a US'deep state/Israeli Mossad nexus. In that sense, we're talking about a trans-national group that have infected many world govts. and have impressive access to state apparatus, who periodically meddle in global affairs in a big way but from behind a 'veil'. Basically, "Israel" may not have assassinated Kirk, but the people who did were probably operating in the interest of Israel (among other things).
I think it is likely the US Government is complicit in the assassination of CK, oh lordly lord, what is coming next?!
 
What is thus far the most likely entry and exit point of the bullet on the neck that people have figured out SOLELY on the videos that show Kirk being shot WITHOUT taking into account from where the shot might have come from?
That's the problem: currently, there is no exit wound.

And I think the current consensus is also that there was no breast-plate.

Which means no ricochet, which means the full force of the 30.06 round directly penetrated Kirk's neck... and didn't exit his body.

Which Paramount Tactical guy seems to be saying is next-to-impossible given the anatomy of the neck.

So, yeah. That's 'spooky psy-ops' for ya. In the absence of full disclosure of information, you need 'magic bullets' for them to make sense!
 
Boone Cutler was another well known patriot warrior who just died. Another sad loss right after Charlie. He was close friends with Gen Flynn and was loved by so many vets who he helped over the years. He helped write Flynn's books on 5th Generational Warfare for the public to understand what the US is undergoing. I have to question the timing of this, he apparently died of a heart attack. I know he struggled with his health. He's mourned by many.

 
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This thread is starting to suggest/murmur that perhaps it was CIA/mainland USA PTB/Government forces that assassinated Charlie Kirk. If that came out, it would cause the biggest shock to wake the public that I can possibly think of. Even more so than revealing Covid-19 came from Fort Detrick or that the “vaccines” are what has been killing people. Covid-19 was a slow boil and peoples emotions on Charlie Kirk’s assassination are heightened.

There's a possibility that Kirk was gaining too much notice, too much influence, changing too many minds among the youth, particularly among young white males. Had he become a significant deficit to whatever agenda is being promulgated to the point of being a threat, if not in the present, but going ahead into the future? After all, it's been said he had high potential to be President some day. He could follow the two terms of a presumed President Vance or even be VP. And was his strong Christian beliefs a factor as well? After all, part of this PTB agenda is to wipe out Christians - those satanists truly abhor them. Since those 4D critters have time travel capability, maybe saw that Kirk really needed to go.
 
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After watching the video that Approaching Infinity posted earlier, I think it's certain that Charlie was shot from the front, he was not wearing a vest, and the most likely shooter was indeed that Taylor guy. I was skeptical about an amateur being able to make that shot, but according to the guy (who is a sniper) it is quite doable and it only becomes challenging around 400 ft away. YT just showed me this other video of a guy making that shot from a similiar distance to prove the point (he says it was 142 ft - I thought in the actual assasination it was 200 ft?) and he is hitting the target multiple times. No bull's eye, but one point he makes is that Taylor was probably going after the body and missed for the neck, with the end result being the same.

As for the mystery of the exit wound, the only explanation I can think of is that the bullet hit bone and deflected it, staying inside.

It is also quite clear that the text message dialogue is fake. I think we can conclude from that that the intention was to provide a ready-made narrative for the public, which included a step-by-step explanation plus the idea that he planned and carried out the whole thing alone. I think that's the lie and points to where the 'conspiracy' really is. There were his online Discord 'buddies' that were posting on X and social media about something big happening that day, and his bf Lance was said to be much into the 'dark web'. Obviously he knew as well.

The girl that made those mini-documentaries about the accelerationists posted earlier on this thread (I've only watched a couple so far) pointed out that in those forums sometimes more or less casual participants are targeted by law enforcement, but those who are long-time members and push the agendas are left alone. It's easy to see how many of those online leaders may be collaborators with intel agencies or even agents themselves, in an online version of what Joe described on News Real about the FBI pushing people to become 'terror cells' so they could aprehend them later or use them for some other purpose.

And that's where the hidden hand really is. My bet is this guy Taylor was groomed by Deep State elements, probably in complicity with Israeli elements (or not). It's an identical pattern to the assasination attempt on Trump. In this case, the intent could have been simply to sow further social divisions in US society. If Israel was involved, to prevent the loss of one of its 'allies' before he fully changed sides, while they could still claim him as a martyr of their cause. I'm afraid the precise motive and mastermind we will never know.
 
After watching the video that Approaching Infinity posted earlier, I think it's certain that Charlie was shot from the front, he was not wearing a vest, and the most likely shooter was indeed that Taylor guy. I was skeptical about an amateur being able to make that shot, but according to the guy (who is a sniper) it is quite doable and it only becomes challenging around 400 ft away. YT just showed me this other video of a guy making that shot from a similiar distance to prove the point (he says it was 142 ft - I thought in the actual assasination it was 200 ft?) and he is hitting the target multiple times. No bull's eye, but one point he makes is that Taylor was probably going after the body and missed for the neck, with the end result being the same.

As for the mystery of the exit wound, the only explanation I can think of is that the bullet hit bone and deflected it, staying inside.
Somebody asked him in the comments:
You dont explain how a 30.6 only made such small damage!

You’re right. I made a mistake in the edit and accidentally removed that part so I’ll answer it here. Ballistics are a phenomena and weirder things have happened before. Also, the rounds available to buy off the shelf can be vastly different in quality, build, and ballistic coefficients. It's still very hard for me to believe even now that this was a 30-06 direct hit. but currently this to me is the most believable of the stories IMO. Time will tell. Ty for your feedback btw
Someone else asked for an example of weird, unexpected ballistics:
I have friend whose teammate survived a t-box headshot from a 30 cal. Round ricocheted off his teeth. Knocked him out and he woke up with the a gunners finger plugging the hole.
 
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Post on X claiming a second person on the roof of the building opposite Kirk's speaking location, at a time claimed as being 12:06pm:


It would be interesting to find the source video so we can check at what time it was filmed.

Based on landmarks in the video clip, I think this figure is on the roof of a different building, at roughly the location in the following G-maps layout, circled in yellow.

Red Robinson's location, where he was filmed at around the same time, lying in a prone position.

Blue is Kirk's location, and the white star is where I guess this footage was filmed from.

If it turns out that this second figure is being filmed at 12:06pm, then according to the official timeline, it can't be Robinson because he's already been seen on the rooftop of a different building by 12:02pm.

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Post on X claiming a second person on the roof of the building opposite Kirk's speaking location, at a time claimed as being 12:06pm:


It would be interesting to find the source video so we can check at what time it was filmed.

Based on landmarks in the video clip, I think this figure is on the roof of a different building, at roughly the location in the following G-maps layout, circled in yellow.
Yep, that's the Woodbury Business building. Could it be the peak of one of those pyramid skylights? Here's one circled, with a line of sight to where you place the camera.
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I don't have Google Earth, so I can't see if it would be visible from the perspective on the walking path.

Here's what the front of the building looks like (left side in the video.)
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Prolly is that. At first you 'see something moving', but what's more likely to be actually moving is the person recording with their phone as they walk towards the speaking event, and that 'pyramidal vent' briefly came into view.
 
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