Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history
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Discord is saying there is no evidence of Robinson planning or mentioning anything on its chats before the assassination.
This, like the rifle itself 'found' in nearby woods, appear to have been planted after the fact.
And so, Robinson's political affiliations and online profile, like Crooks', are unusually opaque, giving authorities - and everyone commenting on the assassination - 'tabula rasa' on which to paint whatever profile of the man they wish, according to their own political persuasions.
This is most likely by design.
This is supposedly a leaked ADL conversation (haven't fact-checked it) where they warn precisely of this joining of left and right:
Notice however how he implies that it's the far-right they're REALLY afraid of, because they will "f*ck sh*t up".
Which confirms my suspicion that it's not really the joining of left/right they're afraid of, but a broad coalition on the right. I mean, what is left of the left anyway? Sure, there are the woke types who are also pro-Palestine, but it's mostly a case of a broken clock being right twice a day - for the most part, what people call "the left" these days is just crazy, easy to control and manipulate, and of no danger to Israel. Ideologically, the pro-Palestine left also can only go so far - they would for example never question the very idea of a "Jewish home state" or that Jews deserve a special victim status because muh Holocaust. In fact, they are useful because they poison the pro-Palestine sentiment in the minds of many normal people who otherwise lean right. Even the traditional anti-war/anti-imperial left is gone - most of these people have either descended into wokeness or have become more right-wing one way or the other.
Also, what more is there to divide between right and left? They are living in different universes. Perhaps the Charlie Kirk thing was intended as a spark to bring this underlying conflict to a head, which in and of itself would redirect energies away from Israel, who knows. But the real danger to Israel, it seems to me, would be a broad coalition on the right that gets serious about solving the "Israel"/"Jewish" question.
The only option left for the Ziobots is to associate criticism of Israel with Muslims, since right-wingers tend to be anti-Muslim. Which is precisely what Bibi and his shills in the US are trying to do.
Ironically, however, what we're seeing is a coming together of the right, what with people like Dave Smith, Matt Walsh and Darryl Cooper softening up to Nick Fuentes, and Nick Fuentes sending conciliatory vibes.
Agree with @Keit though, it's fine to speculate about what "the cosmic plan" behind it all might be, but ultimately, we can't say and have to wait and see.
I just watched the above series. Very revealing, especially the stuff about the O9A and links to Gladio and Azov in Ukraine. Some excellent examples of ponerology at work - Myatt sounds like a classic schizoidal spellbinder and Sutter a callous and conning psychopath.
Here's a Grok summary of some background on Tyler Robinson:
Apparently Robinson's father, a former deputy sheriff, confronted him after recognising him from an official person of interest photo. Robinson then confessed and refused to turn himself in. His father called a local youth pastor, a family friend, who then alerted the authorities and then two then ensured Robinson remained at home until the FBI took him into custody.Grok said:
I get Crooks vibes from the shooting as well. I suspect there were professionals that groomed and shadowed Robinson that were able to melt into the background once they'd observed that he'd done his job. Just like 9/11, it then falls to everyone else in the US to clean up the mess.
And I couldn't agree more with this:
My opinion now is that there is no right or left. There are just various beings with different traits, histories and levels of awareness.
Finished it and as expected Ian Carroll is doing a great job. Recommend watching it. Besides couple of minor points he probably is getting wrong (some of which he corrected on the show) such as the claim that Shapiro might take over TPUSA I think it is well worth the listen and share. The point he is making about the Zinn guy I think is justified as a suspicion I did not quite think about in that way: It could also have been an distraction of some sorts on the ground to make it easier for the real shooter and/or shooters to escape.
Steven King tweeted that Charlie was advocating stoning gays to death. He later apologised following a backlash where X users in no uncertain terms told him he was wrong:
In response, Belfast Books removed all of his work from their website. It may not be much but in the age of information ignorance isn’t an excuse. If you foolishly trust every bit of nonsense you see on the internet you deserve the backlash you get. And if you are a person with significant following and influence you have a responsibility to be careful with what you say. At least in my books.
King later said that Charlie cherry picked the scripture content. I’m not sure how, if anything, Charlie’s weakness was following it too thoroughly and literally. Otherwise he may have questioned not only the historical accuracy and legitimacy of the alleged “Judeo-Christian” tradition - but also its purpose and who it really serves.
In response, Belfast Books removed all of his work from their website. It may not be much but in the age of information ignorance isn’t an excuse. If you foolishly trust every bit of nonsense you see on the internet you deserve the backlash you get. And if you are a person with significant following and influence you have a responsibility to be careful with what you say. At least in my books.
King later said that Charlie cherry picked the scripture content. I’m not sure how, if anything, Charlie’s weakness was following it too thoroughly and literally. Otherwise he may have questioned not only the historical accuracy and legitimacy of the alleged “Judeo-Christian” tradition - but also its purpose and who it really serves.
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I like it that he didn't really walk it back. He pretty much doubled down
People are desperatelly jumping to the " crazy republican and/or antifa" angle and the left celebrating is just amplifying that theory.
Fuentes didn't really touch israel on his show. But he sort of admited Charlie was changing his stances on Irael towards the end. (Not that there's any other possible conclusion that could be drawn) We'll see if he decides to leave his caricature behind and boards the subject with Candace.
And other groyper types i've seen kinda distanced themselves from pointing at israel.
I'm starting to think , Maybe they knew they were gonna get the dirt thrown at them beforehand.
Fuentes' stance was immediately 180
And despite the antifa narrative the groypers are taking the heat
Candace spitting fire on X
Andrew Tate's apperance on Piers Morgan was terrible. But his takes on X were unironically benefical. He was telling whites to keep themselves in check , and that works for that type of energy and narrative.
I also thought his tweet was profound and moving as to the reason why people feel Charlie's death so deeply:
The same could be said about that young Ukrainian woman who was also brutally slaughtered IMO. FWIW.
Chase Hughes is bang on target. The media ensures that they keep the sheeple maximally polarised. Social media keeps throwing more and more feeds in your face that are designed to push you further and faster in whatever direction you are moving. I noticed that when discussing political or religious issues with good friends with a different perspective, everyone is that much more intolerant than before! We are all programmed victims of a psy-op
I think it is likely that what has happened will also lead quite a number of lefties right now (who haven’t fully embraced evil yet and have some common sense left) to at least gravitate away from the extreme nutty people on that side, de facto making what is then left of the left in general and the extreme left in particular even more devoid of decent people.
Having said that, I still think we have to be careful of divide and conquer strategies, but it seems to me, at least in America, that there is currently good grounds for hope, especially after Kirk and his way of being has reached role model status for many people (especially through that assassination), that “the right“ can and will handle the situation responsibly like an adult which is also largely because of the many good and needed parts in Christian theology.
I think the real divide is still between people with some form of decency/humanity in them (even if that is just faintly dormant in some OP types for example) against those embracing/embodying/furthering literal evil, which in Łobaczewski terms are for example Psychopaths and similar types. And I think that this real divide (at least not yet) can’t be neatly squared into “the left“ or “the right“. I also think it will never make sense to try to change “the left“ or even try to change Psychopaths and/or people that have chosen a total/extreme/full STS path. I do however think that decent people are totally justified in setting much more firm boundaries and that this might even encompass “harsh“ and “extreme“ measures that revolve around the idea of “stay the f*ck away from me, my space, my home, my family and the way we chose to life“. And that might justifiably also include to get rather “hostile“ when those people breach those boundaries. If they want to be that way let them be that way amongst themselves while I might make sure that they stay as far away from me as possible.
Maybe at some point people start to realize that there is indeed a big divide and that we should indeed see and acknowledge that and then set boundaries, but that this is in actuality not (yet?) between “the left“ and “the right“ but especially between decent and immoral people or between “godless and/or soulless“ people and those with more or less of a connection to “the divine“.
Having said that, I still think we have to be careful of divide and conquer strategies, but it seems to me, at least in America, that there is currently good grounds for hope, especially after Kirk and his way of being has reached role model status for many people (especially through that assassination), that “the right“ can and will handle the situation responsibly like an adult which is also largely because of the many good and needed parts in Christian theology.
I think the real divide is still between people with some form of decency/humanity in them (even if that is just faintly dormant in some OP types for example) against those embracing/embodying/furthering literal evil, which in Łobaczewski terms are for example Psychopaths and similar types. And I think that this real divide (at least not yet) can’t be neatly squared into “the left“ or “the right“. I also think it will never make sense to try to change “the left“ or even try to change Psychopaths and/or people that have chosen a total/extreme/full STS path. I do however think that decent people are totally justified in setting much more firm boundaries and that this might even encompass “harsh“ and “extreme“ measures that revolve around the idea of “stay the f*ck away from me, my space, my home, my family and the way we chose to life“. And that might justifiably also include to get rather “hostile“ when those people breach those boundaries. If they want to be that way let them be that way amongst themselves while I might make sure that they stay as far away from me as possible.
Maybe at some point people start to realize that there is indeed a big divide and that we should indeed see and acknowledge that and then set boundaries, but that this is in actuality not (yet?) between “the left“ and “the right“ but especially between decent and immoral people or between “godless and/or soulless“ people and those with more or less of a connection to “the divine“.
Apparently people have been losing their jobs over celebrating Charlie Kirk's death. And rightly so, freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences of that speech. The below video collects reports of people being fired for cheering Charlie's assassination. I haven't watched the whole thing but check out the individual at 10:17 who was one of the "victims". Unless the job involved banging his head against a wall I somehow doubt he was a top performer.
Dang, who needs HAARP when it's probably enough to beam at people like that with a microwave for this level of unhinged psychosis to melt?
Dang, who needs HAARP when it's probably enough to beam at people like that with a microwave for this level of unhinged psychosis to melt?
The Mechanic
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The link you posted to that 5 part docu is giving me a "doesn't exist" error, anybody else experience this?
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