Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history
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I believe the relatives she's referring to are probably something like an aunt and uncle, or something like that. From Twiggs's social media posts, he said he was kicked out because his family thought he was possessed. Candace says he was kicked out at something like 16 years old and went to live with relatives, and then rented a place from, I believe, those same relatives. She implies those were the people she spoke to, and who confirmed the accounts of lots of vehicles showing up to the place in previous weeks. Maybe she also spoke to the parents, but that wasn't clear to me.
Consensus on X is that it is ridiculous. Some think the FBI composed it, others (e.g. Matt Walsh, Raw Egg Nationalist) consider that Robinson and Twiggs might have scripted it as a way to exonerate Twiggs. I'll throw out one more option. Given that the FBI has made a point of emphasizing how Twiggs is "closely cooperating" with law enforcement, maybe they have already granted him immunity for his involvement, and this exchange was composed in order avoid any hint that Twiggs was complicit.
Polish members can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe "left vs right" was part of the common Polish vocabulary prior to the 80s, when Lobaczewski wrote. (Here's what Grok says.) His main ponerological point was the society of normal people vs pathocrats, and when he talked about ideology he discussed Marxism and pre-Marxist socialists. He was complimentary to the pre-Marxist socialism and the Polish socialists who opposed "communist" pathocracy, but thought Marxism was a dead-end philosophy and that even the other socialist philosophies were tainted by schizoid ideas. He didn't comment at all on what we would characterize as "leftism" today (e.g. "race communism," LGBT, etc.). In Logocracy, he presents a combination of conservative ideas with a few that might be considered socialist, many of which I think are compatible with something like "MAGA" in an American context.
Using everyday speech, I'd say the "moderate leftists" (i.e. normal people) of today are the ones leaving the party and disgusted by the both the assassination and the people celebrating it - who could be considered the "radical leftists" (of the pathological, "transpersonified" variety).
Yeah, those 250 legislators going all at once to Israel ro pay tribute is just creepy. Right after Kirk's assassination, who had just declined an 'invitation' to Israel. I guess the 250 are saying "I'm not declining! I'm not declining!" because they just saw what the consequences may be. Pathetic.
candasiri
Jedi Master
Do you think representation (not lawyers) from the forum should reach out to her?
Exactly my thoughts. Especially the part in which he tells his boyfriend 'btw, did you know my dad is MAGA?'. I mean, seriously he never mentioned it to the bf before? And the amount of detail of the execution of his whole plan. 'I wasn't going to tell you love, but anyways, here's the whole thing...'
It really sounds like a manufactured explanation for the masses: 'You see children, there was this guy Taylor who loved his trans boyfriend, so he took his grandpa's rifle and shot Charlie Kirk without telling anyone. And that's exactly how it happened, because Taylor described it in text for us to read!'
Also, I heard that according to his parents, the rifle was meant to be a gift to Taylor, but then he said it was grandpa's rifle and his dad would be upset if it was lost. Which one is it? Ok, so suppose it had been grandpa's AND then a gift to Taylor. But then if he had such respect for grandpa's rifle, why was it all scribbled with stuff all over? Or was that just the bullets?
Finally, this Lance trans guy was said to be very much into the 'dark web'. Which brings us back to the 'accelerationists', who in turn can be easily manipulated by intel agencies. Is this how Taylor got involved? And that is not to say that he committed the actual killing, because I'm still in disbelief at the precision of the hit by an amateur.
Assuming what the father said is true, I can see how the rifle could be considered both. If I'm gifted a ring from my grandfather, I can still see my family and I referring to it in conversation as "grandfather's ring," for example. I still think the texts sound scripted, but this detail didn't strike me as odd.
Just the bullets, allegedly.
Are we really supposed to believe that we’re supposed to believe the messages are real?
Surely it’s just another mind job on the public. Whoever created the messages must be laughing their arses off that they’ve been published, and the responses they’re creating.
“Vehicle”
Surely it’s just another mind job on the public. Whoever created the messages must be laughing their arses off that they’ve been published, and the responses they’re creating.
“Vehicle”
BHelmet
The Living Force
Why is this a mystery? We are inundated with fake BS advertising-fake news left and right, fake Hollywood media, and didn’t the whole world go through a pandemic which lasted for years recently that was pretty much a fake on every level from top to bottom inspite of the coverage pretending it was “real”?
It’s a bit like the dog in the experiments with the electroshock floor. At a certain point the dog shuts down and kind of gives up, indifferent when the stimulus-response mechanisms defy a sensible pattern. Oh yeah. 911. Gulf war rationale etc etc. What is more mystifying to me is why so many have immediately bought into the story without at least some healthy skepticism. Biden beating Trump. That’s another recent one.
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Like this fellow claims, some say Charlie wasn't wearing body armor. This is an absolute NO for me after watching this explanation from a very experienced former police officer who has a lot of first hand experience in the hits to body armor. He explains very well what we see here. The shoulders move forward when the bullet hits the plate which is the reaction from a front body shot. Film is shown when a bullet hits the plate closer to the top edge showing fragmentation spraying upward. Conclusion, the neck wound is caused by a fragment entering the neck and the blood flow is consistent with a impact wound hitting the carotid artery not an exit wound. It's said Kirks wife insisted he wear body armor.
The other speaker gets into whats happening with Israel and their control over the US. Trump just sent weapons to Saudi Arabia who have stated they won't tolerate what Israel did to Qatar.
There is good and factual information here about events unfolding even if the speculation is incorrect about the over all plan to take Israel down which may be wishful thinking. But who knows. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst I suppose.
The "everything is fake" theme has run its course for many it seems and is being met with ridicule. To my surprise and disappointment, a podcaster who I've followed for awhile came out with this statement and explained the squib blood etc. What! He's done for me. Next other podcasters come out and crucify the guy not mentioning his name. Tuning in next day, out of curiosity, the podcaster is now contrite, appearing innocent and downcast....he screwed up and got the backlash. He has a large following and makes the money to show for it. He quickly brings in popular commentators to bring his followers back in. Does he really believe this fake story, maybe. It certainly made me question his motives about everything. I'm sure others, who follow him, say "once CIA always CIA, which he was at one time.
Anyway, a lot of people have had it with the everything is fake scenario, thankfully.
Just want to note here that I didn't really know of Charlie Kirk except maybe his name very vaguely. After taking in everything posted in this thread about him, especially Candace's first vid after his death, I'm blown away by who he was - a juggernaut for his beliefs particularly the political aspects - and that he was so kind, funny, intelligent, and a spiritually committed person wanting to counter the clearly nonspiritual movements that had taken root especially among the youth. What a great loss to our country and the cause of truth - and didn't it look like Charlie was on the path to real truth concerning Israel which must have been a very bitter pill for him to consider swallowing. I think a consoling thought regarding his tragic and untimely death was his tremendous faith that has spirited him into the arms of his Savior, Jesus Christ. His family is also of this belief as spoken by his grieving wife. Charlie, his wife and two beautiful children did not deserve this horrible act of insane violence. It truly hurts my heart and frankly, I'm picturing millions of loosh straws employed all over the world which really upsets me. Honest grief is just a feeding ground for the 4DSTS particularly as this death was no doubt orchestrated by their earthly minions.
Rest in Peace Charlie. You've left a legacy that will mark a true Turning Point in our current time.
Rest in Peace Charlie. You've left a legacy that will mark a true Turning Point in our current time.
Here is the governor of Utah.
STOP PRAISING OUR UTAH GOVERNOR SPENCER COX! He is literally worse than a radical leftist. He introduces himself with pronouns, vetos bills to stop trans radicals, allows illegals to invade our state, and calls the ACTUAL patriots of Utah “right wing radicals.”He was OBSESSED with lockdowns and forcing masks. And I quote: “I don’t care why, wear a damn mask! ”CHARLIE KIRK CALLED HIM A DISGRACE.
STOP PRAISING OUR UTAH GOVERNOR SPENCER COX! He is literally worse than a radical leftist. He introduces himself with pronouns, vetos bills to stop trans radicals, allows illegals to invade our state, and calls the ACTUAL patriots of Utah “right wing radicals.”He was OBSESSED with lockdowns and forcing masks. And I quote: “I don’t care why, wear a damn mask! ”CHARLIE KIRK CALLED HIM A DISGRACE.
I was asked recently what the Russians say about the murder. Thought I would share it here, if only for a different, distanced and perhaps by that, more objective perspective (bird-eye's view sort of). Of course I don't know the full spectrum of comments, but those whom I follow on regular basis most of all are compassionate on a human level, for some it feels like having lost a friend and defender on the other side of the globe; while others, less sympathising with Trump bring up his not fulfilled promises leading to further split even within his own party on the one hand, and on the other even more radicalising the 'left' by his domestic policy; but across the board those are most common themes:
Not sure anyone emotionally invested in the story would like it, but for curious minds there is an interesting very early reaction to the murder by Peter Lavelle and George Szamuely (some members may remember them from RT). I'd say that first 20 minutes and last 5 are most interesting, what is between are speculation attempts when there was still very little known and the informational chaos just started. Posted 4 days ago.
- the role and political significance given to Kirk is largely exaggerated. Some say he was a brilliant apparatchik, others see him as a youths' ideologist for a current political climate but with little, if any, influence on the higher levels of power; generally appreciate his extraordinary organisational and fund-raising skills and kind character;
- given the long US' tradition of violence and the scale of social division, radicalisation, deep hatred, lost of human values etc., as we see nowadays, there is no need for Mossad. Some considered that option, mostly because of the agency's nefarious history and also the arguments coming from the US, but eventually dismissed it as having no real ground - last time I checked. (Too little fish to bother, so to say, and no benefit worth pursuing.) It may, or may not change, depending on how the story develops.
- some point out that the American society was programmed to focus on the right-left divide, thereby they lose sight of the real players who not only imposed this way of thinking on them but are also responsible for the current state of the matter – decadent, if not downright dystopian.
- Nevertheless, the blame fails most often on 'Democrats', left-wing dominated media, bloggers, and influencers who have been hyping hatred; voices predicting civil war in the US can be heard. Those with more bitter sentiments would say that after Obama, Biden and their ilk created an atmosphere of hatred in the US; organized and normalized the harassment against those who disagreed with their policies; introduced a policy of "canceling" opponents, the most vulnerable were affected by their propaganda, including both, just unstable individuals as well as completely crazy ones. And perhaps, after having brought so much sorrow around the world, pitting people against each other in all those manufactured wars and revolutions it's time that Americans felt some of it on their own skin.
Not sure anyone emotionally invested in the story would like it, but for curious minds there is an interesting very early reaction to the murder by Peter Lavelle and George Szamuely (some members may remember them from RT). I'd say that first 20 minutes and last 5 are most interesting, what is between are speculation attempts when there was still very little known and the informational chaos just started. Posted 4 days ago.
I don't know but it doesn't make sense that bullets ricochet or fragment off body armor (and hit the cartoid artery to boot) when armor is designed to absorb. Also mentioned in the short video Joe posted:
And it's not like anything hit his right side as that's a black microphone magnetically clipped to the wire inside his shirt that is jolted around.
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I'm open to the shot having been a 'side-shot', but beware analyses that are based on footage that has been rendered multiple times, blurring key details as to 'what is really there, and what the camera originally captured on film'.
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